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20 hours ago, Ferguson said:

There are a few things I learned from this thread.  By all accounts, the OP is a sturdy man and could carry himself at a skirmish outside of a bar.  His recent experiences have taught me to gather my items before proceeding to the next shot. 

 

What I can't get my arms around is the term slapping a double bogey.  Never heard that, ever.   Also, I am still having trouble with the conditioning and oiling process of a golf glove. 

I'm appreciative that I am not the only one that had this thought.  I have never conditioned/oiled a golf glove, nor do I know anyone that has either.  Baseball gloves, of course.  Am I missing something that I should be doing?

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13 minutes ago, j.b.newton said:

I'm appreciative that I am not the only one that had this thought.  I have never conditioned/oiled a golf glove, nor do I know anyone that has either.  Baseball gloves, of course.  Am I missing something that I should be doing?

That's what she said.

 

 

 

This is from the FJ website.  Must be a common care practice for all glove makers, right? 

 

 

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I've heard plenty of people say, they can't afford to lose premium $4-$5 balls, or gloves that cost $30+ ea, so their etiquette say play cheap balls, wear cheap gloves, and play cheap clubs, knowing they lose sh** all the time. 

 

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On 1/24/2024 at 8:01 PM, skaarsgard said:

So, I'll tell a story of two recent occasions that still have me scratching my head.   Would love to hear your thoughts.

 

A few weekends back (the day before the College Football National Championship) I was in Houston and went out to play an expensive round as a single on a public course I don't often play.  I got paired with a couple of execs from Washington University in town for the game - cool/ fun pairing.  It was an average Sunday game - groups every ten minutes but it moved fairly well aside for a couple of the difficult par 3's where a minor congestion appeared.   Behind us was a drunk/ rowdy group of mid-fifties guys with a couple sporting U. Michigan Sweaters/ hats that hit up on us a couple times while we were waiting for the group ahead to clear.  Nothing big, just a couple of accidents.

 

In the south, it's normal to rotate your glove every 3-6 holes for humidity.  So I have three with me every round and mix them up frequently.  After the ninth or so hole, I lost one glove that I didn't realize until about 2 holes later (must have flown out the back of the cart).  After teeing up a par 5 where we'd have to wait, I drove back to the prior hole to see if that group found my glove.   Here's how that interaction went.

 

I drove in the direction of the hole where one was lining up his putt (waiting a fair distance and letting him putt before disturbing).  I pulled up to the green area and asked the guys if they had seen my glove.  This wasn't a normal Kirkland glove but a very premium navy blue Cuater glove that is probably the softest glove I have ever used due to conditioning and oiling it every round or two so I can imagine what they thought when finding it.   

 

After I asked if someone had seen the glove, one guy on the left in Michigan clothes responded with "yes"... then a long silence.  After about 10-15 seconds, I asked, "Can you tell me where?"  The same guy pointed to a mid-fifties looking guy saying he found it.   Meanwhile the guy who found it said nothing the whole time.  I responded, "Right on... Thanks!"  and proceeded to walk to the green.  While walking up the man who responded (all Michigan clothes) asked me if I went to Michigan and during this time the man with the glove pulled it out of his front left pocket.  When I responded in a laughing manner, "Nah man, I went to Cal" the guy with my glove stopped walking towards me to show it was in his pocket.   Completely confused by seeing the glove in his pocket, I sarcastically asked, "were you wearing the glove!?!"   He raised his voice and responded, "Hold On!" then turned around and was doing something with the glove.  Still confused at the entire situation I waited to see him then turn around and have my glove sticking out of his trousers.  This man unzipped his pants, put my glove there, pointed at his crouch and demanded me to "Come get your glove".  There was a good 50 feet between us at this point.

 

...

 

I'm not a little man.   Taller than most, I look like military, police, football player, wrestler all at the same time... now mostly non-confrontational I don't often have encounters like this unless some drunk gets brave or tries to impress his friends.  I was dumbfounded, shocked, disturbed, unprepared, angered, rageful - all these thoughts and emotions, all at once - and unfortunately, my responses were very loud and aggressively stern.  "WTF is the matter with you!?!   Are you f-ing retarded!?!   I'm not your friend, you don't know me."  all while walking directly at him and unknowingly clenching my fists.   He had the nerve to tell me "You need to lighten up - it's all fun and games."   I could see all three men with putters in their hands on the green and realized this wasn't the time (no time is right to fight in golf, no time) so at that point I just wanted to end the situation and leave.   He realized I wasn't in the fun and games mood and handed me my glove instead of me having to get it.   I slapped and took my glove from his apologetically limp hand, called him an A-hole and walked away.  

 

On the way to the cart, I wanted blood.  I wanted to tip his cart, throw his clubs, piss on his equipment, go back and slap this man... whatever, I wasn't prepared for the encounter I just had.  Finally, civility kicked in and I left the situation.

 

For the remainder of the round they played very slow in what seemed intentionally keeping a full hole between us.   However, for the rest of that round, I was wound up.  In fact for the next few days, I couldn't stop thinking about what happened - I was completely bothered by the whole encounter.  

 

One, is it normal to wear someone else's glove?   I'd never...   I could understand those needing equipment maybe bagging the thing and playing dumb, but to wear the glove immediately and then want to embarrass the person who lost it all seems so foreign to me.  Still, wearing someone else's glove?

 

Two, it has always seemed to me the proper thing to do when finding items on the course goes like this:   you leave it in your cart for people who return, you head up to the groups in front of you attempting to return their items and lastly, return to the pro shop at the end of the round.   I've succumbed to the fact that dropped range finders often get bagged and hidden immediately, everything else, generally gets returned on the course.  Nice new stuff has a good chance to end up in someone's trunk at a public course vs. private obviously but never during these interactions should there get to a point of fighting... that's not what golfing is about.

 

Thoughts?

 

And yeah, I kept the glove but won't ever wear it again... should just throw it away.   

 

Without reading another response in this thread I wholeheartedly agree with you.  I’m very much the same as you describe. Very easy going , until  you flip that  switch.  And I don’t do foolishness with strangers. None.  I’ll keep it short and end with this. Some folks are still breathing because of the kindness of others.  This is one such situation.  

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17 hours ago, Ferguson said:

That's what she said.

 

 

 

This is from the FJ website.  Must be a common care practice for all glove makers, right? 

 

 

Footjoy Glove Care: 

 

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Good grief. As if golf doesn't take enough time.

 

"Honey, you're finally home."

 

"Yeah, sorry,  I did my glove routine at the club today"🤡

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Ferguson said:

Crazy.

 

I thought to myself, "Self, would a person that prefers a conditioned and well-oiled glove also prefer the performance benefits of Sqairz shoes?"   I'm leaning toward a yes.  

 

And if you thought the care instructions for gloves to be a bit much, see the care instructions for Sqairz Shoes.   Under the FAQ, Sqairz shoes will not support their claims of "improved performance" unless the shoes are "properly maintained." 

 

Hard enough being a golfer - users of Sqairz shoes have to be part-time cobblers too?

 

 

 

 

 

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Houston is the armpit of Texas. Sorry you had 2 bad experiences dealing with trashy golfers. Not sure I would drive back if I lost a glove or two, but the idiots playing behind you were out of line. That’s probably good you didn’t try to fight either of the groups because you were outnumbered and I assume everybody in Texas (where I’m from) has a gun. DFW/ Austin/ San Antonio people are way more civilized so sorry about those 2 garbage experiences. 

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WTF is going on? Some younger guy rode up on me this weekend looking for his "lost glove."

 

Can't say I've ever seen this before. 

 

Who loses a glove?

 

Beyond that, who - having lost a glove - goes back to look for it?

 

Might as well look for your lost Kleenex...

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1 hour ago, jholz said:

WTF is going on? Some younger guy rode up on me this weekend looking for his "lost glove."

 

Can't say I've ever seen this before. 

 

Who loses a glove?

 

Beyond that, who - having lost a glove - goes back to look for it?

 

Might as well look for your lost Kleenex...

What kind of Kleenex you using? A decent glove is $20+ ... you guys must be rolling in the dough if you're just letting $20 go without a second thought. (And yet hackers will spend an eternity looking for a $4 golf ball).

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53 minutes ago, tatertot said:

What kind of Kleenex you using? A decent glove is $20+ ... you guys must be rolling in the dough if you're just letting $20 go without a second thought. (And yet hackers will spend an eternity looking for a $4 golf ball).


On the couple times I can remember losing a golf glove, I was pissed at myself, but zero chance I’m going to stop play, hold everyone up, and walk back searching for a glove. No way. I realize if the OP had a cart it might not take as long.

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On 1/25/2024 at 5:38 AM, mat562 said:

A few years back I lost my watch on the first tee of my club. It was my own fault, in that I turned up to the tee for a casual fourball a bit late and had to take off my watch, get my 1-iron out of the bag (that's how long ago it was), pull on my glove, all whilst being heckled by my friends. I absent-mindedly plopped my watch down onto the ball pocket of my carry bag and teed off. I then picked up my bag and strode off down the fairway, unknowingly having dislodged the watch which would have fallen onto the closely mown teeing ground in what would have been full view if I'd had a reason to turn around.

 

Long story short, I realised at the end of the round that my watch was missing, but quickly surmised what had happened. I hung around for the following group, but they said they hadn't seen a watch. I let my friend, the assistant pro know what had happened, assuming that someone would hand it in in due course. Maybe the following group had teed off from the forward tees, I thought. Someone will have teed off from the back set at some point, and they're bound to have found it. I was lucky enough to play at a nice course, with the usual assortment of affluent members, so I assumed it would be handed in before long because, well, that's what I would do. You guessed it.

 

It still bothers me to this day that I never got it back. Some people are just arseholes. Or thieves.

 

 

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My funny story from this year. I'm in my mid 30s and maybe some of you recall, at a certain point HS kids to about 25 all look the same. You just lose the ability to tell

 

Anyway found a Volkey by the 4th green, put it in my bag thinking ill drop it in the clubhouse post round. Im getting ready to tee up and this "kid" with a hard seltzer is driving up my fairway. I wave the club at him, he comes and gets it and thanks me. 

 

He may have been 17 or 23, idk lol

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Maine Golfer said:

My funny story from this year. I'm in my mid 30s and maybe some of you recall, at a certain point HS kids to about 25 all look the same. You just lose the ability to tell

 

Anyway found a Volkey by the 4th green, put it in my bag thinking ill drop it in the clubhouse post round. Im getting ready to tee up and this "kid" with a hard seltzer is driving up my fairway. I wave the club at him, he comes and gets it and thanks me. 

 

He may have been 17 or 23, idk lol

 

 

 

 

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My friend goes back for Martini Tees when he forgets them on tee boxes. He usually doesn’t know until the next tee box and he’s a full time walker. 
 

Some gloves are $20, so I get going back for it. Martini tees? They are $1. I have like 30 of them in my bag. He could just have one of those but he insists on having “his” martini tee. 
 

He’s a weird dude. 

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      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 RBC Heritage - Monday #1
      2024 RBC Heritage - Monday #2
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Justin Thomas - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Justin Rose - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Chandler Phillips - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Nick Dunlap - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Thomas Detry - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Austin Eckroat - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Wyndham Clark's Odyssey putter - 2024 RBC Heritage
      JT's new Cameron putter - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Justin Thomas testing new Titleist 2 wood - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Cameron putters - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Odyssey putter with triple track alignment aid - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Scotty Cameron The Blk Box putting alignment aid/training aid - 2024 RBC Heritage
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Masters - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Huge shoutout to our member Stinger2irons for taking and posting photos from Augusta
       
       
      Tuesday
       
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 1
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 2
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 3
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 4
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 5
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 6
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 7
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 8
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 9
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 10
       
       
       
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    • Rory McIlroy testing a new TaylorMade "PROTO" 4-iron – 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Rory McIlroy testing a new TaylorMade "PROTO" 4-iron – 2024 Valero Texas Open
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