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It's funny that everyone is excited to be maxed at the limit of COR. I remember having conversations about buying retail heads was better than buying tour heads since one of every few heads would be hotter than max. I guess those days of getting an illegally hot head are gone for TM.

 

I'd rather know I'm at the limit of manufacturing tolerances than gamble with getting one that is well below. Don't know how much a difference it'll make. But, it's an interesting concept and will possibly a good marketing point. I'll give it a fair shake even though I'm pretty much on the Epic Flash hype train.

 

It's a good ploy.

 

"Tour Issue for everyone!"

"Why take your chances with another company's driver when ours is guaranteed to be at the legal limit?"

"All other drivers are under-speeded!"

"Face so hot we had to slow it down!"

 

Are we at the end of the line in the distance wars?

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Others have mentioned it, but we are at the point of maximizing launch conditions and forgiveness. Imagine if you could maintain ball speeds across the entire face, that would be a huge gain for everyone and that is what all the new drivers are doing. TM twistface helped with maintaining proper launch conditions across the face but you still lose speed on strikes not on the theoretical sweet spot. Every OEM is going about it different ways, but the ultimate goal is the same, ensure that the maximum limit is reached across the entirety of the club face.

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It's funny that everyone is excited to be maxed at the limit of COR. I remember having conversations about buying retail heads was better than buying tour heads since one of every few heads would be hotter than max. I guess those days of getting an illegally hot head are gone for TM.

 

I'd rather know I'm at the limit of manufacturing tolerances than gamble with getting one that is well below. Don't know how much a difference it'll make. But, it's an interesting concept and will possibly a good marketing point. I'll give it a fair shake even though I'm pretty much on the Epic Flash hype train.

 

It's a good ploy.

 

"Tour Issue for everyone!"

"Why take your chances with another company's driver when ours is guaranteed to be at the legal limit?"

"All other drivers are under-speeded!"

"Face so hot we had to slow it down!"

 

Are we at the end of the line in the distance wars?

 

If it works, I'd hardly call it a ploy. If they are actually measuring heads ensuring better quality assurance, I don't see how it's a bad thing. Even a lot of tour heads aren't at the limit. Even if it's miniscule gains, it's still gains in a day and age where there isn't a lot of room for improvement in driver tech.

 

I'm interested in how it feels with the resin behind the face. If they have a way to improve the manufacturing process, are they not supposed to? I don't understand all of the negativity.

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Its Dec 13th already, where are the fitting leaks?! :to_become_senile:

 

Bump that!

 

I need to know if I should wait for an M6 3W or pull the trigger on a M3 3W now

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Others have mentioned it, but we are at the point of maximizing launch conditions and forgiveness. Imagine if you could maintain ball speeds across the entire face, that would be a huge gain for everyone and that is what all the new drivers are doing. TM twistface helped with maintaining proper launch conditions across the face but you still lose speed on strikes not on the theoretical sweet spot. Every OEM is going about it different ways, but the ultimate goal is the same, ensure that the maximum limit is reached across the entirety of the club face.

 

TM's website says, "Revolutionary new face curvature designed to deliver a corrective face angle on off-center impacts, producing straight distance off the tee." Ask Tiger how it works for him. Return of the gear effect from days of persimmon.

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Others have mentioned it, but we are at the point of maximizing launch conditions and forgiveness. Imagine if you could maintain ball speeds across the entire face, that would be a huge gain for everyone and that is what all the new drivers are doing. TM twistface helped with maintaining proper launch conditions across the face but you still lose speed on strikes not on the theoretical sweet spot. Every OEM is going about it different ways, but the ultimate goal is the same, ensure that the maximum limit is reached across the entirety of the club face.

 

TM's website says, "Revolutionary new face curvature designed to deliver a corrective face angle on off-center impacts, producing straight distance off the tee." Ask Tiger how it works for him. Return of the gear effect from days of persimmon.

 

What an astute observation. I have never heard anyone use Tiger's accuracy issues off the tee as proof that twist face doesn't work. Just like I have never heard of someone claiming TM's next driver will be released in 6 months and these will go down in price. Or reference something like gaining 17 yards every year means they should be hitting it 400 yards by now. Tired old jokes. If you're going to crap on a company about a club you've never hit, be original.

 

There is no technology out there that will completely mitigate a bad golf swing. They can try to make it more playable. But it will always be on the golfer to make square contact.

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It's funny that everyone is excited to be maxed at the limit of COR. I remember having conversations about buying retail heads was better than buying tour heads since one of every few heads would be hotter than max. I guess those days of getting an illegally hot head are gone for TM.

 

I'd rather know I'm at the limit of manufacturing tolerances than gamble with getting one that is well below. Don't know how much a difference it'll make. But, it's an interesting concept and will possibly a good marketing point. I'll give it a fair shake even though I'm pretty much on the Epic Flash hype train.

 

It's a good ploy.

 

"Tour Issue for everyone!"

"Why take your chances with another company's driver when ours is guaranteed to be at the legal limit?"

"All other drivers are under-speeded!"

"Face so hot we had to slow it down!"

 

Are we at the end of the line in the distance wars?

 

If it works, I'd hardly call it a ploy. If they are actually measuring heads ensuring better quality assurance, I don't see how it's a bad thing. Even a lot of tour heads aren't at the limit. Even if it's miniscule gains, it's still gains in a day and age where there isn't a lot of room for improvement in driver tech.

 

I'm interested in how it feels with the resin behind the face. If they have a way to improve the manufacturing process, are they not supposed to? I don't understand all of the negativity.

 

Sorry, I didn’t mean to sound negative. You are right that distance gains nowadays are tough, and any little improvement should be noted. I didn’t mean a devious ploy, just a tactic/strategy to sell clubs.

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It's funny that everyone is excited to be maxed at the limit of COR. I remember having conversations about buying retail heads was better than buying tour heads since one of every few heads would be hotter than max. I guess those days of getting an illegally hot head are gone for TM.

 

I'd rather know I'm at the limit of manufacturing tolerances than gamble with getting one that is well below. Don't know how much a difference it'll make. But, it's an interesting concept and will possibly a good marketing point. I'll give it a fair shake even though I'm pretty much on the Epic Flash hype train.

 

It's a good ploy.

 

"Tour Issue for everyone!"

"Why take your chances with another company's driver when ours is guaranteed to be at the legal limit?"

"All other drivers are under-speeded!"

"Face so hot we had to slow it down!"

 

Are we at the end of the line in the distance wars?

 

If it works, I'd hardly call it a ploy. If they are actually measuring heads ensuring better quality assurance, I don't see how it's a bad thing. Even a lot of tour heads aren't at the limit. Even if it's miniscule gains, it's still gains in a day and age where there isn't a lot of room for improvement in driver tech.

 

I'm interested in how it feels with the resin behind the face. If they have a way to improve the manufacturing process, are they not supposed to? I don't understand all of the negativity.

 

Sorry, I didn’t mean to sound negative. You are right that distance gains nowadays are tough, and any little improvement should be noted. I didn’t mean a devious ploy, just a tactic/strategy to sell clubs.

 

Noted, and no need to apologise. I'm just getting a severe bout of cabin fever. A little touchy in these cold winter months. Only 4 months until golf season.

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I wonder what the M5/M6 hybrids will look like? The TM rep in my area has stated that the GAPR line has been a big flop for them.

 

I wondered about that. I haven't seen a single one of any of the models being played outside of the tour WITB photos.

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I wonder what the M5/M6 hybrids will look like? The TM rep in my area has stated that the GAPR line has been a big flop for them.

 

The 790 UDI was a great looking club. The GAPR, looked kind of cheesy. It's hard for me to even described what put me off about it. I just never really cared for the look.

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I wonder what the M5/M6 hybrids will look like? The TM rep in my area has stated that the GAPR line has been a big flop for them.

 

The 790 UDI was a great looking club. The GAPR, looked kind of cheesy. It's hard for me to even described what put me off about it. I just never really cared for the look.

 

 

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I wonder what the M5/M6 hybrids will look like? The TM rep in my area has stated that the GAPR line has been a big flop for them.

 

The 790 UDI was a great looking club. The GAPR, looked kind of cheesy. It's hard for me to even described what put me off about it. I just never really cared for the look.

 

GAPR was terribly marketed and styled. I could tell you it was gonna be a flop before it even hit shelves.

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I wonder what the M5/M6 hybrids will look like? The TM rep in my area has stated that the GAPR line has been a big flop for them.

 

The 790 UDI was a great looking club. The GAPR, looked kind of cheesy. It's hard for me to even described what put me off about it. I just never really cared for the look.

 

Funky looks (the notch is worse than the iphone x), cheap finish that shows wear before you even hit it, super expensive, too many choices (am I High, Mid or Low? Or can I just change the loft to get my flight?), overlap with already great offerings in the M3/M4 hybrids and P790 UDI....just a very puzzling offering. I would have loved to be in the room when this one was given the green light.

 

I was fit for an M4 Hybrid, just hit it really really great. I think it has a much less premium look to it, though, compared to the rest of the line so I passed on upgrading from my current hybrid.

 

For M5/M6 fairways the Taylormade 3HL is always on my list of things to try.

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We're gonna see an M-Track weight system.

 

and the follow-up version will have the W-Track weight system.

"hey, what if we just turn the M-Track upside down and release it as a new model?!?"

 

How about a reverse Y track where the arms of the Y go to the front heel and toe and the stem goes to the rear of the club. Loft up, weights forward...low spin with high launch and a bit of heel/toe forgiveness...

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Their will be no M5 hybrid, only M6. GAPR is the M5 hybrid( adjustable sleeve).

Also the 3HL version is gone this year from M5/M6

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Their will be no M5 hybrid, only M6. GAPR is the M5 hybrid( adjustable sleeve).

Also the 3HL version is gone this year from M5/M6

 

Well that sucks. I've always played a 3HL/4wood loft for my fairway. I would assume it will be a tour only loft.

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Any have info on the titanium fairway wood, lofts and specs??

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There will be no M5 hybrid, only M6. GAPR is the M5 hybrid( adjustable sleeve).

Also the 3HL version is gone this year from M5/M6

 

Talk about a swing and miss by TM with that decision ...

Well that sucks. I've always played a 3HL/4wood loft for my fairway. I would assume it will be a tour only loft.

 

If no 3HL/4w option in the M5, I'm hoping the "5w" will be like the r7TP and be lower loft and play more like a 4w than 5w. I don't need a new driver but I am all in with a new Ti fw.

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Their will be no M5 hybrid, only M6. GAPR is the M5 hybrid( adjustable sleeve).

Also the 3HL version is gone this year from M5/M6

 

Talk about a swing and miss by TM with that decision ...

I was told that the 15* in either M5/M6 will be extremely easy to elevate off the deck so they might have figured the 3HL wouldn't be necessary.

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Their will be no M5 hybrid, only M6. GAPR is the M5 hybrid( adjustable sleeve).

Also the 3HL version is gone this year from M5/M6

 

Talk about a swing and miss by TM with that decision ...

I was told that the 15* in either M5/M6 will be extremely easy to elevate off the deck so they might have figured the 3HL wouldn't be necessary.

 

But what if the 15° versions fly too far?

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Excuse my ignorance but if someone wanted a 3HL, couldn't they put a 3 wood shaft in a 5W head and get basically the same thing?

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