New FlightScope Mevo+ (MERGED)

[Meesh]

Had a chance to test Mevo + (Short indoor) vs GC Hawk today. My miss is a little off the toe so GC Hawk picked up draws vs Mevo + Pushes.

[Noodler]

10 minutes ago, Meesh said:

Had a chance to test Mevo + (Short indoor) vs GC Hawk today. My miss is a little off the toe so GC Hawk picked up draws vs Mevo + Pushes.

 

What ball did you use?  RCT or dots?

[Meesh]

6 minutes ago, Noodler said:

 

What ball did you use?  RCT or dots?

 

Pro v1x with dot

[Dan13]

3 hours ago, Meesh said:

Had a chance to test Mevo + (Short indoor) vs GC Hawk today. My miss is a little off the toe so GC Hawk picked up draws vs Mevo + Pushes.

Interesting. The M+ is clearly heavily influenced by initial H launch when determining FTP and the toe strike opens the face. A bit surprised that it has that big an impact with PW but it all depends how far off the toe you hit it. Path numbers look real good. 

[leekgolf]

Interesting, is that considered significant discrepancy in Angle of Attack and Face to Path? Also what about the difference in Backspin RPMs on the driver? 

 

 

[Dan13]

30 minutes ago, leekgolf said:

Interesting, is that considered significant discrepancy in Angle of Attack and Face to Path? Also what about the difference in Backspin RPMs on the driver? 

 

 

In short indoor mode my results w driver spin numbers are similar. May be some minor interference issues but I think M+ just needs more flight time / ball to screen distance. 
 

The FTP numbers with the PW certainly fall into the significant discrepancy camp. FTP is clearly not measured at first touch like other Flightscope metrics so just have to be aware that off center hits will not give you delivered face angle but a face angle tied somewhat to H launch. I would be interested to hear how far off the toe some of those PW shots were. To open the face any where near 5 degrees with an iron is a lot and would indicate an impact location well out on the toe. Hit it out of the middle and the FTP numbers should be within 1 degree. 
 

The AoA numbers do not bother me. They are consistently less steep then GC Hawk which is encouraging. M+ is so sensitive to setup with AoA but it is measuring what it “sees” so just have to set it up to account for every distance and elevation difference down to the inch or less. 

[shane7321]

I’m having problems with the camera and MultiCam function of the mevo plus. Is there a walk through of how to use the functions? 
 

Also are videos stored for future review? 
 

Any help would be appreciated. 

I find the instructions for setup to be on the light side. 
 

 

[Paybax]

GSPro has officially integrated with Flightscope for those that don’t follow the Facebook groups 👌

[HiTrajLoSpin]

9 hours ago, Paybax said:

GSPro has officially integrated with Flightscope for those that don’t follow the Facebook groups 👌

For those of us not familiar with GSPro, what does this mean for Mevo+ users, and how do we access GSPro?

[Alan Pllu]

2 hours ago, HiTrajLoSpin said:

For those of us not familiar with GSPro, what does this mean for Mevo+ users, and how do we access GSPro?

I was wondering the same thing. 

[Paybax]

13 hours ago, HiTrajLoSpin said:

For those of us not familiar with GSPro, what does this mean for Mevo+ users, and how do we access GSPro?

It’s generally regarded as the best sim software on the market and it’s pretty much the most affordable option as well. Checkout YouTube videos and obviously their website for more info. 

Edited April 18, 2022 by Paybax

[FAbb]

I took my unit to the grass range at my course for the first time last week.  It seems very accurate in non-limited flight scenarios.  Every club up through driver was very much in line with what I see on the golf course, and from a driver fitting back in January on Trackman.  It'll be rare for me to bring to the range, but it was cool to see regardless.

[Billknust]

On 4/17/2022 at 9:22 AM, HiTrajLoSpin said:

For those of us not familiar with GSPro, what does this mean for Mevo+ users, and how do we access GSPro?

You will need a pretty fast PC with a really nice GFX card. You can download GSPro to your computer and they have a pretty in-depth FAQ on how to get things running once you download and upzip the software.

[Paybax]

On 4/18/2022 at 8:08 AM, Billknust said:

You will need a pretty fast PC with a really nice GFX card. You can download GSPro to your computer and they have a pretty in-depth FAQ on how to get things running once you download and upzip the software.

If you want to run it on Ultra. At the moment I run it on medium with a low end card. Works well. 

[DrShaftE]

On 4/12/2022 at 9:18 PM, Exactice808 said:

So I am going to throw my hat in here.

 

1) I dont think your hitting platform being elevated will matter as long as you setup the Mevo+ level with your platform.

2) Interference is going to be tricky.  As honestly there is no real way to measure how bad the interference will be until it you have the unit in your hand.  Taking note of some items, large amounts of metal, High amount of WIFI (2.4gh & 5ghz),  Florescent bulbs for lighting.   Other than that, I assume it would work fine.   

 

3)  Data is how you interpret..... This might be long but bear with me.

 

What type of balls you use will give you X data,  From there you take the data to make averages.

 

There is a "Range" ball setting with Mevo+ but it only adjust the raw distance, it does not apply the factor to the actual ball data, so you could self calculate.

 

So personally what I do is leave it at standard range NO MATTER what ball I use.

 

(Example)

I then hit a string of balls and collect that data.  Meaning.  If its true Yellow range/flight limited balls, I hit 10 shots with my Driver.   I take the average ball speed, Launch angle and Spin from this set of numbers. THIS is my BASE for that type of ball.

 

Say this ball gives me an average of 142mph ball speeds,  my swing speed still is at my normal reading from the Mevo+ at 102mph,  this gives me a smash factor of 1.4 which is totally normal for a range limited flight ball, BUT low on the smashfactor scale being 1.45-1.5 is effecient.

 

I am going to get a distance spit out from the Mevo+ (using the the Trajectory optimizer)

 

224y carry, with 228y total.  This is no where what I see on the course, BUT this is my base line data for the RANGE BALL. (about a 5% loss in ball speeds)

 

Now What I DO see on the course is,

 

102mph ballspeed,  x 1.48 smash = 150mph ballspeeds,  14* launch and 2500 rpms of spin, This is my Optimal Flight and what I AM trying to achieve on course. 

 

In the Optimizer

We can see 243carry, 251 total.

 

Much more realistic distances for me, WITH the same swing speed average of 102mph.  YET due to the limited flight, we will see some lower ballspeeds for sure, but the varience in spin and launch angle will really mess with the "Calculated" distance total. BUT this is what you have to track in average at the range.

 

 

Once you know that you have enough optimized ball data with the range balls. This is how you will train for it.

 

 

So take your irons, as you stated you wanted to "Dial" in your distances but you will struggle due to the 2nd tier hitting bay.

 

If you know you are using range balls again DO above.

 

7iron example - 

I have 91mph swing speed, 117mph ball speed, 19 Launch and 6400rpms of spin = 161 carry.  apply the 5% loss of ball speeds, I would see about 111mph of ball speed instead of 117mph. (Loss of 6mph)

 

 

Assuming some slight variances in spin,  we can see 148y of carry with the estimate range balls compared to 161 carry with my normal balls.

 

AS LONG as I have this data mapped out, I know that if I am hitting 148y at the range with the range balls. I am dialing in my numbers.

 

The key is finding "YOUR" shot window.  What is that window for your Gamer ball and what is that window for the Range ball. 


Now here is How the "Range Ball" Feature works

 

 

This basically applies the 5% distance loss to the RAW distance total,  BUT the ball data is constant, it does not apply the 5% to the other data measurements.  So if you are just looking for raw distances to match up you "Could" use the range ball type, but that gets confusing.  As for me I just want the actual measurements and I can work out a table from there.

 

Again.  For me if I am using my Mevo+ with Range balls, I just want to make sure I am getting at least 111mph ball speeds with my 7 iron.  with a good strike, I should be peppering the 150y mark. (Even though I know I hit my 7iron about 160-165)  

 

Same goes for driver with range balls, I am trying to get 142mph ball speeds, and 230 carry. EVEN though I know with my real ball I get 150mph ball speeds and closer to 250 carry.

 

If I am getting anything less than those values, I am not striking it well.

 

 

SO.... can it work?  SURE, you just have to build a "Shot window" Table for your range.  From there you should be able to dial it in pretty well and IF you get to a place where you can hit REAL balls you can really dial in your numbers.

 

 

GL OP!   Sorry for the long post but I hope you stuck with it!

 

 

 

This is just what I asked from Flightscope about one year ago. I contacted to a support and asked if it is possible to develop range ball feature in a way that user can calibrate ”own” rangeballs if he want, It would be relatively easy. User just hit 5 good shots with range ball and tour ball with pw, 6i and driver. Then software make a conversion factor and use it allways when range ball is active. Range balls are different from ball to ball but it would give a little more accurate readings if you can calibrate a ball from your own range to your device because range balls are really different from model to model.

[Exactice808]

11 hours ago, DrShaftE said:

This is just what I asked from Flightscope about one year ago. I contacted to a support and asked if it is possible to develop range ball feature in a way that user can calibrate ”own” rangeballs if he want, It would be relatively easy. User just hit 5 good shots with range ball and tour ball with pw, 6i and driver. Then software make a conversion factor and use it allways when range ball is active. Range balls are different from ball to ball but it would give a little more accurate readings if you can calibrate a ball from your own range to your device because range balls are really different from model to model.

 

This was prior discussed by @Krt22,   I think he was implying a "range" for irons that the user sets (Parameters) For averages. If I am not mistaken, I have seen something in the FSGolf app where there are "parameters" you can set, dont quote me I am not in front o my unit. But I swear I saw something in there.

 

I think the idea was to limit the range how "far" out the numbers would go to help get your numbers more consistent.

 

 

It would be a great feature,  But at this time, we just all need to be a little bit of nerds, get the Excel Spread sheet and copy the data and average it LOL! 

[Tygoerlitz]

What are you guys using to run the flightscope app or e6? I’ve been running the flightscope app on my iPhone, but have been wanting to get an iPad. Is the basic iPad “good enough” to run e6 or is the iPad Pro the way to go?

 

thanks guys!

[Noodler]

I'm running on the iPad Pro 9.7" (maybe from a generation or two ago) and it's been just fine.  I have the HDMI out from the iPad feeding a 60" screen mounted to the side wall.  The iPad is on a tripod so I can easily access the touch screen controls.

Edited April 24, 2022 by Noodler

[Noodler]

I'm hoping someone here might be able to help me out.  I've been trying unsuccessfully to get an account registered on the golfsimulator.com forum.  My username there is the same as here, but unfortunately the confirmation email to verify the account never gets to me.  I have tried multiple times to contact the site admins via the contact form, but no one ever gets back to me.

 

If someone here also has an account on the golfsimulator forum, would you please contact the site admins there via the forum and let someone know that the "Noodler" account needs to be manually validated?  I just found out this morning that they have deleted my account, so now I cannot even login, let alone post on that forum.  TIA

Edited April 26, 2022 by Noodler

[Bubbtubbs]

On 4/26/2022 at 8:34 AM, Noodler said:

I'm hoping someone here might be able to help me out.  I've been trying unsuccessfully to get an account registered on the golfsimulator.com forum.  My username there is the same as here, but unfortunately the confirmation email to verify the account never gets to me.  I have tried multiple times to contact the site admins via the contact form, but no one ever gets back to me.

 

If someone here also has an account on the golfsimulator forum, would you please contact the site admins there via the forum and let someone know that the "Noodler" account needs to be manually validated?  I just found out this morning that they have deleted my account, so now I cannot even login, let alone post on that forum.  TIA

I'm not really sure how to get in touch with the mods about this but I'll see what I can do. I have the same username there as well.

[Noodler]

2 hours ago, Bubbtubbs said:

I'm not really sure how to get in touch with the mods about this but I'll see what I can do. I have the same username there as well.

 

I re-registered using the same username, but a different email account and was finally able to receive the confirmation email message.  So hopefully I will be fully validated soon.  Thanks.

[Doyouevenblade]

There is a lot about using the Mevo+ indoors but how does it fair outdoors on the range.  Particularly a grass deck? 
 

is it a pain to get it aligned? Misreads? Just plop it down and it works great? 
 

thank you

[Bubbtubbs]

31 minutes ago, Doyouevenblade said:

There is a lot about using the Mevo+ indoors but how does it fair outdoors on the range.  Particularly a grass deck? 
 

is it a pain to get it aligned? Misreads? Just plop it down and it works great? 
 

thank you

Any monitor on a grass deck is going to have to get moved around a bit because of divots, but the Mevo+ is fairly easy to set up and go.

[Carolina Golfer 2]

I'm looking to get the Mevo+ and my use would be 99% outdoor on a grass range, and my thought is to use a Spornia XL hitting net, so I can use reall ProV's to hopefully get the best data.  Would this be that advantageous over using it with range balls on the range where it can see the whole flight.   So I guess it comes down to  limited flight with real ball spin or full flight with who knows what spin from range balls?

I work at a course so the ease of getting the net up and down on the range isn't really a concern for me.   Just wondering if the data from that would be better or worse than range ball with the full flight. 

[games]

It depends on the quality of your range balls. My range has a mix of decent tour practice balls and OTC ranging from Nitro to ProV1x and everything in between.  To me, that's pretty good.

What I would hate would be a mix of limited flight range, regular range, and OTC.  That would stink.

 

[Carolina Golfer 2]

54 minutes ago, games said:

It depends on the quality of your range balls. My range has a mix of decent tour practice balls and OTC ranging from Nitro to ProV1x and everything in between.  To me, that's pretty good.

What I would hate would be a mix of limited flight range, regular range, and OTC.  That would stink.

 

Thanks

Ours has mostly Srixon 2 piece regular flight balls.  With the occasional stray ProV or TP5 that is sliced from hole 1. 😬

[Dan13]

2 hours ago, Carolina Golfer 2 said:

I'm looking to get the Mevo+ and my use would be 99% outdoor on a grass range, and my thought is to use a Spornia XL hitting net, so I can use reall ProV's to hopefully get the best data.  Would this be that advantageous over using it with range balls on the range where it can see the whole flight.   So I guess it comes down to  limited flight with real ball spin or full flight with who knows what spin from range balls?

I work at a course so the ease of getting the net up and down on the range isn't really a concern for me.   Just wondering if the data from that would be better or worse than range ball with the full flight. 

With 13’ or more of distance to the net I’d go limited flight with real balls all day. Less than 13’ and spin numbers with woods could suffer some but still better choice imo. 

[Carolina Golfer 2]

1 hour ago, Dan13 said:

With 13’ or more of distance to the net I’d go limited flight with real balls all day. Less than 13’ and spin numbers with woods could suffer some but still better choice imo. 

Thanks. Yeah. That’s what I’m thinking as well. 

[Bubbtubbs]

On 5/10/2022 at 7:57 PM, Dan13 said:

With 13’ or more of distance to the net I’d go limited flight with real balls all day. Less than 13’ and spin numbers with woods could suffer some but still better choice imo. 

FWIW I have 12' to the screen and I get reasonably accurate numbers with 4w and 2i but driver still isn't quite there - mostly due to higher spin as you mentioned.

 

Every other club is within tolerance of what I see on GC Hawk. I'm not bothered by that since long iron and approach shots are more important to me than big stick, which I rarely pull anyway.

 

Edit:

It's worth mentioning that the ball speed, launch angle, AOA and other, non-spin parameters don't seem to suffer much with indoor distances so you can still work on driver CHS and optimal delivery with impact tape, even if the carry distance is off. 

 

Edited May 12, 2022 by Bubbtubbs

[Dan13]

New firmware out today - V 0.22. Addresses push draw issues and general bug fixes.