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What Players type iron has a larger head size and the widest sole?

As I've made dozens of changes to my bag over the last two decades, I've come to the realization that I prefer the low offset of a players iron, and the wider sole of a game improvement iron. I also like a head size that is a bit bigger than the standard players iron size.

Does this head exist? Anyone have suggestions??

Driver: Callaway Mavrik

4 Wood: PXG Gen 5

7 Wood: PXG Gen 5 

Irons: Cleveland ZipCore XL (5-AW)
Wedges: Cleveland CBX 4 ZipCore  (54, 58)
Putter: Toulon Memphis

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As a reference, I bagged the 2014 TaylorMade Tour-Preferred irons for a minute. That head was a perfect blend of size and low offset. Very accurate also.

I would like a newer club head with latest technology.

Thanks again!

Driver: Callaway Mavrik

4 Wood: PXG Gen 5

7 Wood: PXG Gen 5 

Irons: Cleveland ZipCore XL (5-AW)
Wedges: Cleveland CBX 4 ZipCore  (54, 58)
Putter: Toulon Memphis

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Some will disagree, but I like the Titleist T-MBs.

Minimal offset and a slightly larger head - yet retain a relatively thin top line.

Ive been a long time blade player but decided to give these a go after trying a number of irons. So far I’m happy with them - the notable difference for me is how much straighter my shots are vs. blades. Ball flight is also higher on average - which I didn’t really need help with - but it’s nice to see the mid irons stop on a dime after falling out of the sky like a meteor and freeze where they land.

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J15CB

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AI Smoke Max @ 7* +8g front weight - Diamana DF 70tx(tipped 1.25”)

BRNR Mini 13.5(@12.5*) 43.25” - Diamana DF 70tx(tipped 1.75”)

TSR 3h 19* - AV Raw White 9x  -OR-  Fourteen Type 7 (19*) - $ taper black 125 s+(HS 1x)

Miura CB 1008 4-P - $ taper black 125 s+(HS 1x)

Cleveland RTX 6 50/55 - X100

Titleist SM9 60.12 D grind - S400

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I found JPX919 Forged to be perfect in this regard.

Titleist TSR 1 GD Di 5  Stiff

Titleist TSR 1  15 & 18* Adilia Speed Mesh R

Titleist TSR 1  21* Hybrid Kuro Kage R 
Titlesit T350 6-P 43 STeelFiber I80
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SM 46/54/58  Scotty Cameron Special Select 5.5 Flowback 35" 

 

 


 

 

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"What Players type iron has a larger head size and the widest sole?"

Not sure there is such a thing.

You do realize that those 2 attributes you most like basically disqualify that iron head from being considered a "player's" iron, right ?

Larger heads (therefore usually considerably more perimeter weighting/forgiveness) and wider soles (further back COG, thereby adding more forgiveness) are the main descriptors in GI and SGI irons.

Callaway Epic Flash SZ 9.0 Ventus Blue 6S

Ping G425 14.5 Fairway Tour AD TP 6X

Ping G425 MAX 20.5 7 wood Diamana Blue 70 S

Titleist 716 AP-1  5-PW, DGS300

Ping Glide Forged, 48, DGS300

Taylormade MG3 52*, 56*, TW 60* DGS200

LAB Mezz Max 34*, RED, BGT Stability

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No-Brainer.......

Taylormade P790.

 

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The Mizuno 919 forged was a bit bigger head than the Srixon Z785.

Those might be a good option. I remember thinking they were quite forgiving for a forged "players" club

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Srixon ZX5 w/PX Hzrdus Red 60

Srixon ZX 15 w/PX Hzrdus Red 70

Tour Edge C723 21* w/PX hzrdus black 80

Titleist T150 4-AW w/PX LZ 6.0

Titleist Jet Black 54/60 with PX LZ 6.0

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I was thinking the same thing. Or the Bridgestone CB. Both Srixon and Bridgestone Forged CB have always had a midsized head and a little more width in the sole.

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Callaway Epic Max LS 9* MMT 70S

Callaway Epic Speed 15* MMT 80S

Mizuno CLK 19* Tensei 80S

Mizuno Hot Metal 4 iron MMT 80S

Mizuno Hot Metal Pro 5-GW DG 105 S
Titleist SM8 Black 52*,58* TT S200
L.A.B. Golf Directed Force 2.1
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You're describing a player's distance iron. Something like P790, Z585, 919 Forged/HMB, Forged Tec, Apex, C300 Forged, or T200 is basically right up your alley. Offset is smaller than a GI iron but they have the ball speed tech, face size, sole width, and forgiveness of such a club.

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Titleist TSR3 16.5* --- Diamana Thump 70 --- 42.75"

Callaway Apex UW 21* --- Diamana Thump 80 --- 41" 

Mizuno ST-Max 5H & 6H --- Steelfiber i95 Private Reserve

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Titleist SM10 54.12D & 58.08M Jet Black --- KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 Black 125

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Came very close to buying them but went full SGI. I think they got lost in the shuffle a bit because Mizuno had 3 offerings in the 919 family and the forged probably wasn't the best looking Mizuno head ever

Srixon ZX5 w/PX Hzrdus Red 60

Srixon ZX 15 w/PX Hzrdus Red 70

Tour Edge C723 21* w/PX hzrdus black 80

Titleist T150 4-AW w/PX LZ 6.0

Titleist Jet Black 54/60 with PX LZ 6.0

Deschamps Crisp Antique 

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Agree. I think if they had done more simple badging without the shiny bit the look might have been better. I don't love the wide sole low bounce combo but I could not believe how accurate they were. Hit them with C Tapers and the things were lasers. Great crisp feel and ultra forgiving.

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Everyone will define it a little differently, but the Bridgestone J15CB would be the best example I’d list, with Srixon 700 series next. Also: The Yonex CB-501 is a very nice, soft Japanese-forged iron with a wider sole than their other players irons. It is one of those clubs that would sell like crazy if it said Mizuno on it

Moving to the edge of the category, you might look at the Wilson C300 Forged and its replacement, the D7 Forged, which has very low offset (and yes, Wilson acknowledges that despite the letter classification, the D7 Forged is a new iteration of the C300 Forged.) Personally I’d also put the TaylorMade P770 in there. Depends on the look you like.

Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond 10.5 w/Diamana TB 60S

PXG GEN6 5 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Yamaha RMX VD 7 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Callaway Mavrik Pro hybrid (22) w/Aldila Tour Blue 85 stiff hybrid

Wilson Staff Model CB 5-G w/DG s300 shafts

Edel T grind 54 w/Nippon 125 wedge shaft

Fourteen RM-12 58 w/Dynamic Golds400

Axis1 Rose putter, 34 inches

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In addition to those already mentioned, take a look at Maltby. TE/DMB forged if you want more traditional lofts, or TS2 for a distance iron.

Titleist TSi3 10 Evenflow Riptide MX 60 6.0
Titleist TSi2 15 HZRDUS Smoke RDX 70 6.0
Titleist TS2 19 Tensei CK Blue 70 S
Mizuno MP20 HMB 4-P Modus3 Tour 105 S
Callaway Jaws 50, 54, 58 DG Tour 115
Odyssey 2-ball ten tour lined, Toulon Las Vegas

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... I will never understand why Cleveland abandoned their 588 series. The 588TT's are pretty much exactly what the OP describes. Crazy forgiving for a Players Iron, wider sole with some trailing relief and a larger forged head.

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Fairway:    TM Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:    Ping G430 22* ... Alta CB Black 70r
                  TM Dhy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r

Irons:         Titleist T200 '23 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:    Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:       Cobra King Sport-60
Ball:            2023 Maxfli Tour/2024 TP5x

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