Something is cooking at Titleist

[My2Dogs]

Those are beautiful.  Wish I had the game to play them but I need something more forgiving. 

[UnderPar18]

6 hours ago, Glassmen61 said:

I for one prefer callaway's shape over titleist's

Clearly someone has gone out to the bars the night before Thanksgiving and drank too much…

[NewDecadeMultiCompound]

2 hours ago, UnderPar18 said:

Clearly someone has gone out to the bars the night before Thanksgiving and drank too much…

😂 

 

Hey at least I didn't say ping's sound > everyone else's

[QuigleyDU]

On 11/22/2022 at 6:53 AM, knudson81 said:

My guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has a story on the creation of the 621.JT irons with the details on what JT wanted and how the engineers got there. I don't think it is a blade that we will see at retail anytime soon, but I don't know.

Don’t ruin the fun. Lol..

[TLUBulldogGolf]

Probably something left to just the tour players 😒

[hwwong]

On 11/22/2022 at 9:53 AM, knudson81 said:

My guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has a story on the creation of the 621.JT irons with the details on what JT wanted and how the engineers got there. I don't think it is a blade that we will see at retail anytime soon, but I don't know.

That would be so laaaaaaaaame.

[Feelingofgreatness]

On 11/22/2022 at 8:17 AM, JStang said:

I saw that Ryan Barath posted a photo of what looks like a 620 MB that has the muscle completely milled. My guess is that this is for one of their tour players and they have adopted the CNC milling process similar to what TaylorMade used on Tiger's irons to be able to replicate this club to the tightest of tolerances again. Does anyone else have any insight on these?

 

 

Look nice but I'm not certain what I'd do with it other than butter my toast in the morning. 

[Valtiel]

3 hours ago, Feelingofgreatness said:

Look nice but I'm not certain what I'd do with it other than butter my toast in the morning. 

Do you want butter stuck in your milling grooves? Because that's how you get butter stuck in your milling grooves. 😂

[kwainio]

https://golf.com/gear/irons/justin-thomas-help-titleist-rethinking-iron-design/

[hwwong]

47 minutes ago, kwainio said:

https://golf.com/gear/irons/justin-thomas-help-titleist-rethinking-iron-design/

They talked about a US shop - gotta be Artisan right??

[getair23]

@kwainio great article, thank you for sharing.  The 680, 620, T100 combo they are working on fro Webb Simpson sounds much more interesting and playable that the one off JT's.

[webber]

7 hours ago, hwwong said:

They talked about a US shop - gotta be Artisan right??

Artisan isn't forging their own heads are they?

[mrmikeac]

A buddy of mine is at Titleist as I speak, he said he just saw the new Select line and they look outstanding 

[metaldog]

2 hours ago, mrmikeac said:

A buddy of mine is at Titleist as I speak, he said he just saw the new Select line and they look outstanding 

What’s select line?

[tbone18]

3 minutes ago, metaldog said:

What’s select line?

Scotty Cameron putters.

[hwwong]

2 hours ago, webber said:

Artisan isn't forging their own heads are they?

hmm good point..

[AC810]

2 hours ago, mrmikeac said:

A buddy of mine is at Titleist as I speak, he said he just saw the new Select line and they look outstanding 

When are those releasing?

[mrmikeac]

14 hours ago, AC810 said:

When are those releasing?

He didn’t ask, but I’m assuming between January 2023-March 2023 

 

If I'm not mistaken, the last Select line released in Jan 2020 for the US and March 2020 Worldwide 

[btyh]

17 hours ago, mrmikeac said:

A buddy of mine is at Titleist as I speak, he said he just saw the new Select line and they look outstanding 

The million dollar question..... cherry bombs in the cavity still? 

[phelps22]

23 hours ago, getair23 said:

@kwainio great article, thank you for sharing.  The 680, 620, T100 combo they are working on fro Webb Simpson sounds much more interesting and playable that the one off JT's.

Just bring back the 680 shape. Hands down the best blade they’ve ever put out there. 

[StiffShaft]

I really hope they release the new MB iron as JT designs it.  He is titleist’s best player. They put all this effort to perfect it for him.  I want to use exactly what he’s using on tour.  That’s the whole fun of it.  Don’t water it down with weird offset and sole grind for the average golfer.  If you like offset titleist offers 7 other iron sets that have offset.  They’ve been putting weird offset on the mb ever since Adam Scott has been their top player.  

[RobS]

On 12/2/2022 at 8:57 AM, hwwong said:

They talked about a US shop - gotta be Artisan right??

Cornell Forge in Chicago would be my guess.  They're probably the only forge left in the US with any significant history in forging golf clubs.  They were one of it not the premiere producer of forged heads for decades for oems like Macgregor, Hogan, Ram, etc.

[martymcfly]

On 12/3/2022 at 1:21 AM, hwwong said:

hmm good point..

miura or endo forgings right?

[phelps22]

40 minutes ago, martymcfly said:

miura or endo forgings right?

Unless they’ve set up shop in the US then that’s a no. You should read the article. 

[Soccerrick10]

On 11/29/2022 at 11:08 AM, MU Mike said:

On 11/22/2022 at 10:42 AM, Fairways_and_Greens said:

 

In aerospace we use "freeze plugs"

 

You keep the iron head at ambient temperature, freeze the plug, and drop it in. When it expands to normal temp, it's never coming out. I'd imagine that's what Ping does with their putters and TM does with their Tiger irons.

 

 

And what Mizuno has done for many years.

[gsrjc]

On 12/2/2022 at 7:21 PM, hwwong said:

hmm good point..

Could it be Bettinardi with their milling process considering Bettinardi and Scotty used to be working together?

[hwwong]

On 12/4/2022 at 5:18 AM, gsrjc said:

Could it be Bettinardi with their milling process considering Bettinardi and Scotty used to be working together?

 

Well considering Scotty has a plethora of milling and CNC capabilities...may very well be them

[bladehunter]

On 11/22/2022 at 10:38 AM, Fairways_and_Greens said:

We're looking at the same photo.

 

1: Getitdaily commented that it would increase MOI.

2: I responded that it would negligibly change MOI. (The plug would move weight back, and most likely change launch/spin but not affect resistance to twisting much)

3: You responded with a "yes but", talking about sweet spots.

 

I have no idea what you're arguing. This is the opposite direction of the T100.

 

 

I don’t think JT is looking for more moi.   What he’s going to see is more ballspeed. Or more from a wider area.    To move more weight middle , you need to take it out somewhere.  But you don’t have to take it all out of the ends and move it middle.  You can move most middle and the have smaller plugs on each side to balance it back out.    
 

Nobody is toeing one of those irons.  Just doesn’t happen.  But moving most of the weight dead middle will indeed make them faster and easier to hit for a guy who doesn’t miss but by a hair.  Even here on This site , you can read of how the Miura small ( aka baby ) blade is easier to hit than expected , and how they’re fast .  The reason is centralized mass.    Instead of a pea sized sweetspot , you get a nickel sized spweetspot . And All of it has enough mass behind it to not lose speed.  
 

but hey.  Why argue about head twist on a blade.  Who cares ?  If that’s a concern , you can’t play them anyway.  

[Avidswampthing66]

On 11/22/2022 at 2:38 PM, Sparty4202 said:

Actually more like the PXG Gen5 irons…tungsten toe and heel plus the SW port..😳 and they call Parsons crazy 😂!!

 

Man, seeing them side by side makes me truly appreciate the beauty of the Titleist blade.

[bodhi555]

From memory the original theory behind Tungsten Plugs in blades wasn't directly related to MOI, but more the position of the sweetspot on the head. Classic blades tend to have the sweetspot towards the heel, scarily close to the rocket region, so the tungsten was positioned towards the toe to move it more central. First irons I heard that did it were the OG Blades from Nike - I could never find any info on if it was just Tiger's OG Blades that got them or the retail models also - however I played the retail models for 15 years and found the sweetspot pretty central ime, and seems similar on my VR Pros.

 

Good to see the established manufacturers have caught up to where Nike was 20 years ago. This means we're about 4 years away from the return of the square driver 😉