Cobra's new King F9 Speedback Driver, Woods, Hybrids and Irons (NO BUY SELL TRADE POSTS)

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  • mpmz71mpmz71 Members Posts: 78 ✭✭
    Has anyone noticed any issues with coating chipping on top near the face with either color?



    I almost never hit the ball there, but I noticed a couple of demo clubs at the golf store that shown a lot of chipping. The white version with matte finish seemed a little more durable but maybe it was just a coincidence.



    I'm just wondering about the quality of the finish lasting.
  • Captain Morgan Captain Morgan Members Posts: 708 ✭✭
    ago33 wrote:






    Looks good. Is that the tour length model?
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  • minteqminteq Members Posts: 2,856 ✭✭
    mpmz71 wrote:
    Has anyone noticed any issues with coating chipping on top near the face with either color?



    I almost never hit the ball there, but I noticed a couple of demo clubs at the golf store that shown a lot of chipping. The white version with matte finish seemed a little more durable but maybe it was just a coincidence.



    I'm just wondering about the quality of the finish lasting.




    I actually have a chip on mine, I hit a ball high on the face, very small, but could be an issue . I just used some paint touch up and cannot see it from address. It was not a pop up, but right where the face meets the top.
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  • WoodersonWooderson Members Posts: 1,995 ✭✭
    mpmz71 wrote:


    Has anyone noticed any issues with coating chipping on top near the face with either color?



    I almost never hit the ball there, but I noticed a couple of demo clubs at the golf store that shown a lot of chipping. The white version with matte finish seemed a little more durable but maybe it was just a coincidence.



    I'm just wondering about the quality of the finish lasting.




    Being demos I would bet the house someone caught it too high on the face. Can't call that a defect at all. Had a Callaway rogue fairway that had a low paint line that chipped off after a high hit. I shouldn't have hit it there.
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  • mpmz71mpmz71 Members Posts: 78 ✭✭
    Wooderson wrote:

    mpmz71 wrote:


    Has anyone noticed any issues with coating chipping on top near the face with either color?



    I almost never hit the ball there, but I noticed a couple of demo clubs at the golf store that shown a lot of chipping. The white version with matte finish seemed a little more durable but maybe it was just a coincidence.



    I'm just wondering about the quality of the finish lasting.




    Being demos I would bet the house someone caught it too high on the face. Can't call that a defect at all. Had a Callaway rogue fairway that had a low paint line that chipped off after a high hit. I shouldn't have hit it there.




    I wasn't suggesting it a defect necessarily. I was just curious about durability.
  • RH82RH82 Members Posts: 1,999 ✭✭
    What do you guys make of the Atmos Tour Blue 6?
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  • Krt22Krt22 Members Posts: 6,471 ✭✭
    Took the F9 driver and fairway out today. Got along really well with the driver, miss is a push off the toe, but still very playable. Center strikes were tight draws, great sound.



    The fairway initially didn’t seem great. Was peeling some right, the sound/feel is really muted. Will need some more time with it.



    9/14 fairways,one missed fairway was with the 3w, one driver was 2ft into the rough





    Playing the atmos TS blue 7x in both
  • rsh0308rsh0308 Members Posts: 326 ✭✭
    FYI Global has a 50% trade online bonus for F9 too, better values than Galaxy.



    Just got my order in for a 9 degree Satin Black/Avalanche with Atmos Black.
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  • GC70GC70 What's Next? ClubWRX Posts: 7,529 ✭✭
    RH82 wrote:
    What do you guys make of the Atmos Tour Blue 6?




    It’s money for me, but I’ve always liked all the Atmos shafts. Different strokes for different folks.
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  • 3woodvt3woodvt 5 test drives for clubface contact. #footpowder Members Posts: 1,628 ✭✭
    edited Feb 11, 2019 1:15pm #1601
    GC2 monitor follow up this morning. 148 ball speeds w 102 avg as. 247 carry avg. Strait and baby draws higher spin 2750 avg.

    M6 tensi orange stiff Horrible for me. Gigantic head that I had trouble finding the center 240 avg 144 ball speeds and all over the screen. Moved on.



    Callaway epic flash. Smoke 6.5X 145 ball speeds but low spin 2200. 250 avg carry but wider dispersion w some wild lefts in there .club was extremely loud and harsh imo but it does have some distance in it w low spin. Liked the look much better than TM.



    Only club I'm still curious about is St190. F9 better fit for me all around as its easy for me to find center and feel suits me to a tee and anything in the 2500-3000 spin is okay for me.



    Needed more confirmation after reading other threads. A lot of options out there this year. Wishing all the best and def try the F9 it's a good looking club that performs very good .reminds me of the Ping G LS series performance wise just better feeling.



    Going to ice down as I'm wore out. PS. I hate monitors as I much prefer outside range to see ball flight and shot shape as its the ultimate decider.
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  • t4t3rt4t3r Members Posts: 2,706 ✭✭
    edited Feb 11, 2019 3:21pm #1602
    THANKYOU15 works on the cobra site for 15% off (F9s, weights, etc). Not better than some prices we all know of but pretty darn good.
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  • mizunoMX25mizunoMX25 Members Posts: 251 ✭✭
    I got a chance to try out the F9 driver at Edwin Watts while visiting my brother. Feel is solid, and I was getting noticeably more carry. I generally average about 235-240 carry/260 total @140-143 ball speed with my TS3, and was consistently getting 250-255 carry with the Cobra/ 270-275 total @ ~150 ball speed. I fear they had the elevation jacked up though. Going to take it to my local fitter and get on the GC Quad to see if the gains are legit. I LOVE my TS3, but if I can gain 10-15 in carry with Cobra forgiveness, it's gonna be mighty hard to turn down..
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members Posts: 7,258 ✭✭
    edited Feb 11, 2019 3:26pm #1604
    3wood - Hitting indoors is only useful I find for doing relative comparisons between clubs, and not objective findings. I've literally never had a monitor give me the same results as I see outdoors, whether it be too much or too little spin, distance, etc.



    Just the other day I went outside with a new shaft in my hybrid and was hitting nice penetrating bullets that I was really liking. Go inside literally 3 days later and it tells me I'm hitting 120 foot high spinners at like 4500rpm. There's just no way my flight changed that much so quickly.



    I find that the best approach for monitor stuff is to establish trends. Does club/shaft A tend to spin more than B? Do I see more speed out of one club than another? Is launch any different? Outdoors can produce totally different results, which I find happens almost always. Indoors... I'm a big time drawer of the ball but outside, I tend to usually find my ball fades. Is that me changing a bit going outside or is maybe the room/monitor not ideal to track that ball flight? Probably both.... but golf is played outdoors, and the ball/club, etc don't care how much things spin and whatnot. A real fit takes many rounds to nail down.
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  • 3woodvt3woodvt 5 test drives for clubface contact. #footpowder Members Posts: 1,628 ✭✭
    mizunoMX25 wrote:


    I got a chance to try out the F9 driver at Edwin Watts while visiting my brother. Feel is solid, and I was getting noticeably more carry. I generally average about 235-240 carry/260 total @140-143 ball speed with my TS3, and was consistently getting 250-255 carry with the Cobra/ 270-275 total @ ~150 ball speed. I fear they had the elevation jacked up though. Going to take it to my local fitter and get on the GC Quad to see if the gains are legit. I LOVE my TS3, but if I can gain 10-15 in carry with Cobra forgiveness, it's gonna be mighty hard to turn down..
    yeah that's a pretty big jump...let us know and good luck
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  • 3woodvt3woodvt 5 test drives for clubface contact. #footpowder Members Posts: 1,628 ✭✭
    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    3wood - Hitting indoors is only useful I find for doing relative comparisons between clubs, and not objective findings. I've literally never had a monitor give me the same results as I see outdoors, whether it be too much or too little spin, distance, etc.



    Just the other day I went outside with a new shaft in my hybrid and was hitting nice penetrating bullets that I was really liking. Go inside literally 3 days later and it tells me I'm hitting 120 foot high spinners at like 4500rpm. There's just no way my flight changed that much so quickly.



    I find that the best approach for monitor stuff is to establish trends. Does club/shaft A tend to spin more than B? Do I see more speed out of one club than another? Is launch any different? Outdoors can produce totally different results, which I find happens almost always. Indoors... I'm a big time drawer of the ball but outside, I tend to usually find my ball fades. Is that me changing a bit going outside or is maybe the room/monitor not ideal to track that ball flight? Probably both.... but golf is played outdoors, and the ball/club, etc don't care how much things spin and whatnot. A real fit takes many rounds to nail down.
    Amen Zig, I don't really trust indoors stuff but I do know exactly what I see on the range and course. GPS and Laser finders and the eye test are really hard to replace....
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  • anthony007anthony007 Members Posts: 432 ✭✭
    3woodvt wrote:

    Rosco1216 wrote:


    Should be able to get it dialed in now.
    looks good .stick an 18 up front and a 10 in the rear man!




    That’s what she said
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members Posts: 7,258 ✭✭
    3woodvt wrote:

    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    3wood - Hitting indoors is only useful I find for doing relative comparisons between clubs, and not objective findings. I've literally never had a monitor give me the same results as I see outdoors, whether it be too much or too little spin, distance, etc.



    Just the other day I went outside with a new shaft in my hybrid and was hitting nice penetrating bullets that I was really liking. Go inside literally 3 days later and it tells me I'm hitting 120 foot high spinners at like 4500rpm. There's just no way my flight changed that much so quickly.



    I find that the best approach for monitor stuff is to establish trends. Does club/shaft A tend to spin more than B? Do I see more speed out of one club than another? Is launch any different? Outdoors can produce totally different results, which I find happens almost always. Indoors... I'm a big time drawer of the ball but outside, I tend to usually find my ball fades. Is that me changing a bit going outside or is maybe the room/monitor not ideal to track that ball flight? Probably both.... but golf is played outdoors, and the ball/club, etc don't care how much things spin and whatnot. A real fit takes many rounds to nail down.
    Amen Zig, I don't really trust indoors stuff but I do know exactly what I see on the range and course. GPS and Laser finders and the eye test are really hard to replace....


    Yep. Trust... but verify.



    I don't believe for 1 second that I'm spinning a 19* small hybrid like the H2 at 4500rpm... but the other shaft I was using gave me similar spin results and just a hair lower peak height. Therefore I can conclude that whatever the spin was... using the other shaft isn't likely to change it too much. I liked the feel of shaft A better, so... I'll go with that one for now until something changes. Maybe I will see it balloon a bit, but in the small bucket I hit last week, I just wasn't seeing that.
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  • cz13X4cz13X4 Members Posts: 5,632 ✭✭
    i really want to buy the fairway and hybrid....but i love my f8 and f7 so much I don't think it's worth it. can't wait for the driver to come.
  • JutJut "Don't give up. Don't ever give up." Members Posts: 720 ✭✭
    cz13X4 wrote:


    i really want to buy the fairway and hybrid....but i love my f8 and f7 so much I don't think it's worth it. can't wait for the driver to come.




    The F9 could be one of the best looking hybrids ever made. I might like it so much because it looks similar to my i20, only better. Trying to stay strong and not pull the trigger on one....
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  • cz13X4cz13X4 Members Posts: 5,632 ✭✭
    Jut wrote:

    cz13X4 wrote:


    i really want to buy the fairway and hybrid....but i love my f8 and f7 so much I don't think it's worth it. can't wait for the driver to come.




    The F9 could be one of the best looking hybrids ever made. I might like it so much because it looks similar to my i20, only better. Trying to stay strong and not pull the trigger on one....




    It would make the decision a lot easier if they would have made the f9 adjustable like the f7. one of the few reasons i didn't get an f8.
  • rgk5rgk5 rgk5(OLB) Members Posts: 3,575 ✭✭
    Z1ggy16 wrote:

    3woodvt wrote:

    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    3wood - Hitting indoors is only useful I find for doing relative comparisons between clubs, and not objective findings. I've literally never had a monitor give me the same results as I see outdoors, whether it be too much or too little spin, distance, etc.



    Just the other day I went outside with a new shaft in my hybrid and was hitting nice penetrating bullets that I was really liking. Go inside literally 3 days later and it tells me I'm hitting 120 foot high spinners at like 4500rpm. There's just no way my flight changed that much so quickly.



    I find that the best approach for monitor stuff is to establish trends. Does club/shaft A tend to spin more than B? Do I see more speed out of one club than another? Is launch any different? Outdoors can produce totally different results, which I find happens almost always. Indoors... I'm a big time drawer of the ball but outside, I tend to usually find my ball fades. Is that me changing a bit going outside or is maybe the room/monitor not ideal to track that ball flight? Probably both.... but golf is played outdoors, and the ball/club, etc don't care how much things spin and whatnot. A real fit takes many rounds to nail down.
    Amen Zig, I don't really trust indoors stuff but I do know exactly what I see on the range and course. GPS and Laser finders and the eye test are really hard to replace....


    Yep. Trust... but verify.



    I don't believe for 1 second that I'm spinning a 19* small hybrid like the H2 at 4500rpm... but the other shaft I was using gave me similar spin results and just a hair lower peak height. Therefore I can conclude that whatever the spin was... using the other shaft isn't likely to change it too much. I liked the feel of shaft A better, so... I'll go with that one for now until something changes. Maybe I will see it balloon a bit, but in the small bucket I hit last week, I just wasn't seeing that.




    Both Ping and Callaway have stated that a hybrid will spin more than the iron it replaces. 4500 is a tad high but nor deadly so.
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members Posts: 7,258 ✭✭
    edited Feb 11, 2019 5:25pm #1613
    rgk5 wrote:

    Z1ggy16 wrote:

    3woodvt wrote:

    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    3wood - Hitting indoors is only useful I find for doing relative comparisons between clubs, and not objective findings. I've literally never had a monitor give me the same results as I see outdoors, whether it be too much or too little spin, distance, etc.



    Just the other day I went outside with a new shaft in my hybrid and was hitting nice penetrating bullets that I was really liking. Go inside literally 3 days later and it tells me I'm hitting 120 foot high spinners at like 4500rpm. There's just no way my flight changed that much so quickly.



    I find that the best approach for monitor stuff is to establish trends. Does club/shaft A tend to spin more than B? Do I see more speed out of one club than another? Is launch any different? Outdoors can produce totally different results, which I find happens almost always. Indoors... I'm a big time drawer of the ball but outside, I tend to usually find my ball fades. Is that me changing a bit going outside or is maybe the room/monitor not ideal to track that ball flight? Probably both.... but golf is played outdoors, and the ball/club, etc don't care how much things spin and whatnot. A real fit takes many rounds to nail down.
    Amen Zig, I don't really trust indoors stuff but I do know exactly what I see on the range and course. GPS and Laser finders and the eye test are really hard to replace....


    Yep. Trust... but verify.



    I don't believe for 1 second that I'm spinning a 19* small hybrid like the H2 at 4500rpm... but the other shaft I was using gave me similar spin results and just a hair lower peak height. Therefore I can conclude that whatever the spin was... using the other shaft isn't likely to change it too much. I liked the feel of shaft A better, so... I'll go with that one for now until something changes. Maybe I will see it balloon a bit, but in the small bucket I hit last week, I just wasn't seeing that.




    Both Ping and Callaway have stated that a hybrid will spin more than the iron it replaces. 4500 is a tad high but nor deadly so.




    4500 is too high for a low penetrating flight off the tee but yeah, for an off the deck shot into a green it's about spot on. It just wasn't consistent with what I Was seeing on the range, but... maybe I was just flighting the ball differently outside and doing a better job at knocking it down. Who knows. Inside swing is different than outdoor one for me Im guessing. Target 10ft in front of you vs many dozens or hundreds of yards in front of you...



    So yeah I retract that, I can believe I did it, I just wasn't trying to.
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  • ago33ago33 Members Posts: 2,155 ✭✭
    edited Feb 11, 2019 5:48pm #1614

    ago33 wrote:






    Looks good. Is that the tour length model?




    No, I ordered it with custom weights.



    I took it to the range today. My swing was way off due to working with a trainer on muscular imbalances in my legs/knees. (Now I’m not rotating my hips enough)



    All my long irons and fairway woods were going 40 yards right of target and short. Think shank but hitting the sweet spot. Surprisingly i was hitting these high crazy tour fades with 166 ball speed and getting decent carry ~288 and accuracy.



    Really happy with it

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  • cz13X4cz13X4 Members Posts: 5,632 ✭✭
    ago33 wrote:


    ago33 wrote:






    Looks good. Is that the tour length model?




    No, I ordered it with custom weights.



    I took it to the range today. My swing was way off due to working with a trainer on muscular imbalances in my legs/knees. (Now I'm not rotating my hips enough)



    All my long irons and fairway woods were going 40 yards right of target and short. Think shank but hitting the sweet spot. Surprisingly i was hitting these high crazy tour fades with 166 ball speed and getting decent carry ~288 and accuracy.



    Really happy with it




    idk why but i chuckled at this. glad you like it!
  • ruffellprefleyruffellprefley Members Posts: 2,029 ✭✭
    cz13X4 wrote:

    Jut wrote:

    cz13X4 wrote:


    i really want to buy the fairway and hybrid....but i love my f8 and f7 so much I don't think it's worth it. can't wait for the driver to come.




    The F9 could be one of the best looking hybrids ever made. I might like it so much because it looks similar to my i20, only better. Trying to stay strong and not pull the trigger on one....




    It would make the decision a lot easier if they would have made the f9 adjustable like the f7. one of the few reasons i didn't get an f8.




    i’m also still hanging onto my f7s. the ability to tweak gapping with a couple degrees of loft is awesome.
  • trackcoach13trackcoach13 Members Posts: 955 ✭✭
    minteq wrote:

    mpmz71 wrote:
    Has anyone noticed any issues with coating chipping on top near the face with either color?



    I almost never hit the ball there, but I noticed a couple of demo clubs at the golf store that shown a lot of chipping. The white version with matte finish seemed a little more durable but maybe it was just a coincidence.



    I'm just wondering about the quality of the finish lasting.




    I actually have a chip on mine, I hit a ball high on the face, very small, but could be an issue . I just used some paint touch up and cannot see it from address. It was not a pop up, but right where the face meets the top.


    Same here. I am a little disappointed as before touching it up it annoyed me.
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  • 300_Straight300_Straight Members Posts: 956 ✭✭
    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    3wood - Hitting indoors is only useful I find for doing relative comparisons between clubs, and not objective findings. I've literally never had a monitor give me the same results as I see outdoors, whether it be too much or too little spin, distance, etc.



    Just the other day I went outside with a new shaft in my hybrid and was hitting nice penetrating bullets that I was really liking. Go inside literally 3 days later and it tells me I'm hitting 120 foot high spinners at like 4500rpm. There's just no way my flight changed that much so quickly.



    I find that the best approach for monitor stuff is to establish trends. Does club/shaft A tend to spin more than B? Do I see more speed out of one club than another? Is launch any different? Outdoors can produce totally different results, which I find happens almost always. Indoors... I'm a big time drawer of the ball but outside, I tend to usually find my ball fades. Is that me changing a bit going outside or is maybe the room/monitor not ideal to track that ball flight? Probably both.... but golf is played outdoors, and the ball/club, etc don't care how much things spin and whatnot. A real fit takes many rounds to nail down.


    This is why I still don't trust monitors fully. Ball speed? Fine. Launch angle/spin? Ok. Direction? Nah. I've hit maybe a couple hooks in the last 2 years....meanwhile I was missing 50 yards left on several shots on Trackman during my fitting. I hit a straight draw (if that exists) and my miss is a block to the right.



    Testing indoors on launch monitors (perhaps all but GC Quad) I would only trust a comparison between 2 different clubs. Trackman outdoors is phenomenal, but indoors is just too tough to judge. I wish more driving ranges had some sort of launch monitor, but they don't.
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members Posts: 7,258 ✭✭

    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    3wood - Hitting indoors is only useful I find for doing relative comparisons between clubs, and not objective findings. I've literally never had a monitor give me the same results as I see outdoors, whether it be too much or too little spin, distance, etc.



    Just the other day I went outside with a new shaft in my hybrid and was hitting nice penetrating bullets that I was really liking. Go inside literally 3 days later and it tells me I'm hitting 120 foot high spinners at like 4500rpm. There's just no way my flight changed that much so quickly.



    I find that the best approach for monitor stuff is to establish trends. Does club/shaft A tend to spin more than B? Do I see more speed out of one club than another? Is launch any different? Outdoors can produce totally different results, which I find happens almost always. Indoors... I'm a big time drawer of the ball but outside, I tend to usually find my ball fades. Is that me changing a bit going outside or is maybe the room/monitor not ideal to track that ball flight? Probably both.... but golf is played outdoors, and the ball/club, etc don't care how much things spin and whatnot. A real fit takes many rounds to nail down.


    This is why I still don't trust monitors fully. Ball speed? Fine. Launch angle/spin? Ok. Direction? Nah. I've hit maybe a couple hooks in the last 2 years....meanwhile I was missing 50 yards left on several shots on Trackman during my fitting. I hit a straight draw (if that exists) and my miss is a block to the right.



    Testing indoors on launch monitors (perhaps all but GC Quad) I would only trust a comparison between 2 different clubs. Trackman outdoors is phenomenal, but indoors is just too tough to judge. I wish more driving ranges had some sort of launch monitor, but they don't.


    Amen to this. I use indoor Trackman mainly for ball speed and launch angle stuff. Spin... jury is out so I don't take it as gospel, but I will use it to compare between clubs for a relative comparison. Unless indoor Trackman has like 20 or 30ft after your ball to the screen, it's probably not the best. GCQuad is hands down the best for indoor in my experience, but others may have experienced different.



    There's been times on indoor TM where I 100% know I hooked something and it says it cut, or a time where I know I hit the ball a bit on the toe (driver) but it says I push cut the ball. I don't get too caught up in that... that place I go to which has TM is mainly just for practice and to stay warm in the winter. Sounds snobby, because it kind of is, but I'll only get fit on GCQ. Not many places local have it, I have to go to TXG or maybe there's this new place in NYC I might try, since that's a little faster (and cheaper) than flying into Canada.
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  • KmacKmac Members Posts: 689 ✭✭
    My driver arrives this Friday so like I told you guys just RELAX and it will show up, lol. Now if the stupid snow will just melt.



    Is the F9 hybrid matte black on the crown?
  • 300_Straight300_Straight Members Posts: 956 ✭✭
    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    3wood - Hitting indoors is only useful I find for doing relative comparisons between clubs, and not objective findings. I've literally never had a monitor give me the same results as I see outdoors, whether it be too much or too little spin, distance, etc.



    Just the other day I went outside with a new shaft in my hybrid and was hitting nice penetrating bullets that I was really liking. Go inside literally 3 days later and it tells me I'm hitting 120 foot high spinners at like 4500rpm. There's just no way my flight changed that much so quickly.



    I find that the best approach for monitor stuff is to establish trends. Does club/shaft A tend to spin more than B? Do I see more speed out of one club than another? Is launch any different? Outdoors can produce totally different results, which I find happens almost always. Indoors... I'm a big time drawer of the ball but outside, I tend to usually find my ball fades. Is that me changing a bit going outside or is maybe the room/monitor not ideal to track that ball flight? Probably both.... but golf is played outdoors, and the ball/club, etc don't care how much things spin and whatnot. A real fit takes many rounds to nail down.


    This is why I still don't trust monitors fully. Ball speed? Fine. Launch angle/spin? Ok. Direction? Nah. I've hit maybe a couple hooks in the last 2 years....meanwhile I was missing 50 yards left on several shots on Trackman during my fitting. I hit a straight draw (if that exists) and my miss is a block to the right.



    Testing indoors on launch monitors (perhaps all but GC Quad) I would only trust a comparison between 2 different clubs. Trackman outdoors is phenomenal, but indoors is just too tough to judge. I wish more driving ranges had some sort of launch monitor, but they don't.


    Amen to this. I use indoor Trackman mainly for ball speed and launch angle stuff. Spin... jury is out so I don't take it as gospel, but I will use it to compare between clubs for a relative comparison. Unless indoor Trackman has like 20 or 30ft after your ball to the screen, it's probably not the best. GCQuad is hands down the best for indoor in my experience, but others may have experienced different.



    There's been times on indoor TM where I 100% know I hooked something and it says it cut, or a time where I know I hit the ball a bit on the toe (driver) but it says I push cut the ball. I don't get too caught up in that... that place I go to which has TM is mainly just for practice and to stay warm in the winter. Sounds snobby, because it kind of is, but I'll only get fit on GCQ. Not many places local have it, I have to go to TXG or maybe there's this new place in NYC I might try, since that's a little faster (and cheaper) than flying into Canada.


    Fun fact. I was hitting all my Drives on Trackman about 140-160 feet. Average was 150, literally. Highest was 202 feet. I wonder what Ian would say about that LOL.
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