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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers  13911WRX Points: 2,730Handicap: 0.9 >< 3.8Posts: 13,911 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @Kale_m said:

    On -, @cardoustie said:

    Another really great night in league again
    6 birdies and an eagle ... 4 bogies ... 68 again. Back to back weeks amazingly
    5 under thru first 8. Then got going crazy low nerves.
    Blueprints were trying to send the 919t's a msg I think. These things have me under par in 3 of the last 4 rounds and I'm convinced are key to my plummeting hdcp
    Partner and I were net 60 for 2nd for 200 and shared 400 in skins ... we had 3 same hole bogies or we'd have been really low
    My goal of scratch is almost here !!!!
    The worst was eagling my 2nd last hole to get to five under and blowing 67 - a lifetime PB on the cusp - with a blocked drive into a lateral hazard. My par chip actually horshoed out !!!

    Why even consider the 919t? No reason.

    Who needs a reason? Going to sell some excess clubs .... and also get a set of the 620mb's. Loved them when I hit them yesterday
    Unlikely any of these will displace my beloved bp's .. but I need a 2nd set at the cottage and a 3rd set at the twin's place in Myrtle Beach
    Plus a set for out of town guests

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    Ping G400 LST 11* Blueboard Matte 53x
    Ping G400 3w 13.9* Blueboard OG 63x
    Ping G400 5w 16.5* Blueboard Ion 73x
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* Kuro Kage 80s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* Kuro Kage 90s
    Callaway Apex UT 30* AD DI 105x
    Mizuno 919t 6-PW UST Recoil 110s
    Vokey SM2 50-54tvd-59tvd-64 s400
    Titleist Scotty X7M

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    On -, @cardoustie said:

    Who needs a reason? Going to sell some excess clubs .... and also get a set of the 620mb's. Loved them when I hit them yesterday
    Unlikely any of these will displace my beloved bp's .. but I need a 2nd set at the cottage and a 3rd set at the twin's place in Myrtle Beach
    Plus a set for out of town guests

    Don't do it! Save yourself from the Dark Side!

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    The Ever Changing Bag!

    Driver:  Cobra King LTD, Aldila ProtoPype 80x, 43.5"
    3w:  Cobra King LTD, Aldila RIP Alpha 80 X, 42"
    3h:  TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, DGS400
    3-PW:  Mizuno MP-37, DGS300
    GW:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, DGS400
    SW:  Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS300
    Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34.25"
    Balls: in no particular order... Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Professional, or 50 Elite... will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time

    Sometimes carry 1-SW Golden Ram Tour Grinds w/Dynamic S or 2-PW Golden Ram TW282, Precision 6.5
    Also sometimes swap in old school woods at top of bag, various Golden Ram, MacGregor, or Orlimar persimmons
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    On -, @cardoustie said:

    Another really great night in league again
    6 birdies and an eagle ... 4 bogies ... 68 again. Back to back weeks amazingly
    5 under thru first 8. Then got going crazy low nerves.
    Blueprints were trying to send the 919t's a msg I think. These things have me under par in 3 of the last 4 rounds and I'm convinced are key to my plummeting hdcp
    Partner and I were net 60 for 2nd for 200 and shared 400 in skins ... we had 3 same hole bogies or we'd have been really low
    My goal of scratch is almost here !!!!
    The worst was eagling my 2nd last hole to get to five under and blowing 67 - a lifetime PB on the cusp - with a blocked drive into a lateral hazard. My par chip actually horshoed out !!!

    Keep on!!! That means when you finally get back down to Surfside you are giving me 3 shots----- a side!!! That is some good shooting Uncle Cardy

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    Driver--- Honma G1-X Stock R shaft
    FW Adams Tight Lies 16* Mitsu Diamana
    FW 7 woodTM V- Steel 21* Stock TM R
    Irons 3 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan #2 Apex Shafts
    SW- Clevaland 588 56* Sensicore S-400
    LW Cleveland 588 60* Sensicore S-400
    Putter 1997 Cameron Santa FE rusty as heck Bulls Eye Satin fluted shaft
    Bags- Old School Burton mini staff non logo or Jones Classic

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    On -, @cardoustie said:

    On -, @Kale_m said:

    On -, @cardoustie said:

    Another really great night in league again
    6 birdies and an eagle ... 4 bogies ... 68 again. Back to back weeks amazingly
    5 under thru first 8. Then got going crazy low nerves.
    Blueprints were trying to send the 919t's a msg I think. These things have me under par in 3 of the last 4 rounds and I'm convinced are key to my plummeting hdcp
    Partner and I were net 60 for 2nd for 200 and shared 400 in skins ... we had 3 same hole bogies or we'd have been really low
    My goal of scratch is almost here !!!!
    The worst was eagling my 2nd last hole to get to five under and blowing 67 - a lifetime PB on the cusp - with a blocked drive into a lateral hazard. My par chip actually horshoed out !!!

    Why even consider the 919t? No reason.

    Who needs a reason? Going to sell some excess clubs .... and also get a set of the 620mb's. Loved them when I hit them yesterday
    Unlikely any of these will displace my beloved bp's .. but I need a 2nd set at the cottage and a 3rd set at the twin's place in Myrtle Beach
    Plus a set for out of town guests

    Hey how about a set for an in town guest ( hint hint) seriously I had not checked out this thread. those irons favor my 2000 Dunlop Aussie blades--- I also think I can hit the deuce with that set because I can hit any of my Mac blade 2irons and can hit that Aussie 2 iron--- and seriously I do not consider myself a ball striker

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    Driver--- Honma G1-X Stock R shaft
    FW Adams Tight Lies 16* Mitsu Diamana
    FW 7 woodTM V- Steel 21* Stock TM R
    Irons 3 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan #2 Apex Shafts
    SW- Clevaland 588 56* Sensicore S-400
    LW Cleveland 588 60* Sensicore S-400
    Putter 1997 Cameron Santa FE rusty as heck Bulls Eye Satin fluted shaft
    Bags- Old School Burton mini staff non logo or Jones Classic

  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers  13911WRX Points: 2,730Handicap: 0.9 >< 3.8Posts: 13,911 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @BIG STU said:

    On -, @cardoustie said:

    Another really great night in league again
    6 birdies and an eagle ... 4 bogies ... 68 again. Back to back weeks amazingly
    5 under thru first 8. Then got going crazy low nerves.
    Blueprints were trying to send the 919t's a msg I think. These things have me under par in 3 of the last 4 rounds and I'm convinced are key to my plummeting hdcp
    Partner and I were net 60 for 2nd for 200 and shared 400 in skins ... we had 3 same hole bogies or we'd have been really low
    My goal of scratch is almost here !!!!
    The worst was eagling my 2nd last hole to get to five under and blowing 67 - a lifetime PB on the cusp - with a blocked drive into a lateral hazard. My par chip actually horshoed out !!!

    Keep on!!! That means when you finally get back down to Surfside you are giving me 3 shots----- a side!!! That is some good shooting Uncle Cardy

    Former pro's get exactly ZERO strokes

    Posted:

    Ping G400 LST 11* Blueboard Matte 53x
    Ping G400 3w 13.9* Blueboard OG 63x
    Ping G400 5w 16.5* Blueboard Ion 73x
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* Kuro Kage 80s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* Kuro Kage 90s
    Callaway Apex UT 30* AD DI 105x
    Mizuno 919t 6-PW UST Recoil 110s
    Vokey SM2 50-54tvd-59tvd-64 s400
    Titleist Scotty X7M

  • Bama_RichBama_Rich Members  82WRX Points: 84Posts: 82 Fairways
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    Pretty looking club. It didn't perform as well for me comparing to other forgings.

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    TM 2017 M2 9.5 (set at 7.5 & 4* Open) - Project X HZRDS Black 75g
    Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 15* - Project X HZRDS Black 75g
    Callaway Apex UT - 18* KBS C-Taper 130g
    Srixon Z785 - 4-PW - KBS $-Taper 130g PVD Finish
    Callaway Mack Daddy 4 - 50/54/60 - KBS Tour V 120x
    Odyssey O-Works #2

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  • JerryTBallJerryTBall Avid Amateur NCMembers  591WRX Points: 239Handicap: 8Posts: 591 Golden Tee
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    Cardi, when I had my BP’s, I did not even think about swing weight, as I naïvely thought they come with what ping makes them, that’s the science they had behind them and made them a great club! So mine came SW 0, guess that is stock. So say my 919’s come in with a certain SW, say 2, and the shafts work well for them. Should I order a set of BP’s if I want to go down that road again with that same setup? Just looking for humble opinions!

    Posted:
    I change clubs too often to be able to update my signature but here’s what I currently play
    919 tour irons & 919 forged yes I have both sets
    Ping G400 max G400 7 wood G400 3 hybrid
    Ping glide wedges
    Scotty putter
  • matchavezmatchavez Aotearoa New ZealandUnregistered  4286WRX Points: 380Posts: 4,286 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @JerryTBall said:

    Cardi, when I had my BP’s, I did not even think about swing weight, as I naïvely thought they come with what ping makes them, that’s the science they had behind them and made them a great club! So mine came SW 0, guess that is stock. So say my 919’s come in with a certain SW, say 2, and the shafts work well for them. Should I order a set of BP’s if I want to go down that road again with that same setup? Just looking for humble opinions!

    Jerry, stock is D2. Make sure whoever enters them gets that put in the computer correctly. Otherwise, there's a lot more variance. Mine luckily were less than a point off -- all of them came in about d1.3, so I was ok with it. But I also noticed DD didn't enter the weights explicitly except for one wedge. Sure enough, that wedge was d4.0. It's all a matter of getting exactly what you want onto the build ticket.

    Posted:

    14 Pings. Blueprints are incredibly good. Fetch is the most underrated putter on the market. Don't @ me.

  • JerryTBallJerryTBall Avid Amateur NCMembers  591WRX Points: 239Handicap: 8Posts: 591 Golden Tee
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    On -, @matchavez said:

    On -, @JerryTBall said:

    Cardi, when I had my BP’s, I did not even think about swing weight, as I naïvely thought they come with what ping makes them, that’s the science they had behind them and made them a great club! So mine came SW 0, guess that is stock. So say my 919’s come in with a certain SW, say 2, and the shafts work well for them. Should I order a set of BP’s if I want to go down that road again with that same setup? Just looking for humble opinions!

    Jerry, stock is D2. Make sure whoever enters them gets that put in the computer correctly. Otherwise, there's a lot more variance. Mine luckily were less than a point off -- all of them came in about d1.3, so I was ok with it. But I also noticed DD didn't enter the weights explicitly except for one wedge. Sure enough, that wedge was d4.0. It's all a matter of getting exactly what you want onto the build ticket.

    Thanks, yeah when weighed mine were D0 so seemed light compared to Z forged. Not sure, but I know I was one of first few to get my set. I have to be honest I’m not 100% what my preferred weight is supposed to be, I need a second look next fit session, possibly a second party opinion.

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    I change clubs too often to be able to update my signature but here’s what I currently play
    919 tour irons & 919 forged yes I have both sets
    Ping G400 max G400 7 wood G400 3 hybrid
    Ping glide wedges
    Scotty putter
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers  13911WRX Points: 2,730Handicap: 0.9 >< 3.8Posts: 13,911 Titanium Tees
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    Mine are d5 to d9
    Request what you prefer

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    Ping G400 LST 11* Blueboard Matte 53x
    Ping G400 3w 13.9* Blueboard OG 63x
    Ping G400 5w 16.5* Blueboard Ion 73x
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* Kuro Kage 80s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* Kuro Kage 90s
    Callaway Apex UT 30* AD DI 105x
    Mizuno 919t 6-PW UST Recoil 110s
    Vokey SM2 50-54tvd-59tvd-64 s400
    Titleist Scotty X7M

  • ZAPZAP ClubWRX  1712WRX Points: 253Handicap: 4Posts: 1,712 ClubWRX
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    I am loving mine at D3 with the wedge at D4. Compared to my previous irons (D0) they feel like I am hitting the ball with a soft feeling sledghammer. I have literally never hit an iron that felt like this in my life.

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    **** - the more I keep reading this thread the more tempted I am. Currently hitting Apex Pro 16. I hit the BP once and liked, but they did not have the right shaft for me to try. I need to go and hit them again.

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  • JerryTBallJerryTBall Avid Amateur NCMembers  591WRX Points: 239Handicap: 8Posts: 591 Golden Tee
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    On -, @matchavez said:

    On -, @JerryTBall said:

    Cardi, when I had my BP’s, I did not even think about swing weight, as I naïvely thought they come with what ping makes them, that’s the science they had behind them and made them a great club! So mine came SW 0, guess that is stock. So say my 919’s come in with a certain SW, say 2, and the shafts work well for them. Should I order a set of BP’s if I want to go down that road again with that same setup? Just looking for humble opinions!

    Jerry, stock is D2. Make sure whoever enters them gets that put in the computer correctly. Otherwise, there's a lot more variance. Mine luckily were less than a point off -- all of them came in about d1.3, so I was ok with it. But I also noticed DD didn't enter the weights explicitly except for one wedge. Sure enough, that wedge was d4.0. It's all a matter of getting exactly what you want onto the build ticket.

    Mat,
    I found and interesting article, never heard this before........
    MOI Matching as an Alternative to Swing Weight Matched Clubs
    Matching all clubs in a set to their MOI has become a viable alternative to swing weight matching for many golfers. MOI matching may also be thought of roughly as building the clubs in a set to progressively increase swing weights from long to short irons in the set.

    Candidates for MOI matching over swing weight matching can be golfers who:

    Go in and out of consistency issues with the irons
    Suffer from occasional-to-frequent bouts of pulling short iron shots offline
    Sense less comfort and consistency with the short irons vs other irons in the set

    Posted:
    I change clubs too often to be able to update my signature but here’s what I currently play
    919 tour irons & 919 forged yes I have both sets
    Ping G400 max G400 7 wood G400 3 hybrid
    Ping glide wedges
    Scotty putter
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers  13911WRX Points: 2,730Handicap: 0.9 >< 3.8Posts: 13,911 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @JerryTBall said:

    On -, @matchavez said:

    On -, @JerryTBall said:

    Cardi, when I had my BP’s, I did not even think about swing weight, as I naïvely thought they come with what ping makes them, that’s the science they had behind them and made them a great club! So mine came SW 0, guess that is stock. So say my 919’s come in with a certain SW, say 2, and the shafts work well for them. Should I order a set of BP’s if I want to go down that road again with that same setup? Just looking for humble opinions!

    Jerry, stock is D2. Make sure whoever enters them gets that put in the computer correctly. Otherwise, there's a lot more variance. Mine luckily were less than a point off -- all of them came in about d1.3, so I was ok with it. But I also noticed DD didn't enter the weights explicitly except for one wedge. Sure enough, that wedge was d4.0. It's all a matter of getting exactly what you want onto the build ticket.

    Mat,
    I found and interesting article, never heard this before........
    MOI Matching as an Alternative to Swing Weight Matched Clubs
    Matching all clubs in a set to their MOI has become a viable alternative to swing weight matching for many golfers. MOI matching may also be thought of roughly as building the clubs in a set to progressively increase swing weights from long to short irons in the set.

    That's what I did

    On -, @Howard Jones and
    On -, @TomWishon are the experts

    Lots of posts on here that will help
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    Ping G400 LST 11* Blueboard Matte 53x
    Ping G400 3w 13.9* Blueboard OG 63x
    Ping G400 5w 16.5* Blueboard Ion 73x
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* Kuro Kage 80s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* Kuro Kage 90s
    Callaway Apex UT 30* AD DI 105x
    Mizuno 919t 6-PW UST Recoil 110s
    Vokey SM2 50-54tvd-59tvd-64 s400
    Titleist Scotty X7M

  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers  13911WRX Points: 2,730Handicap: 0.9 >< 3.8Posts: 13,911 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @Kball10 said:

    **** - the more I keep reading this thread the more tempted I am. Currently hitting Apex Pro 16. I hit the BP once and liked, but they did not have the right shaft for me to try. I need to go and hit them again.

    On -, @Kball10 ... the blueprints are way softer than those
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    Ping G400 LST 11* Blueboard Matte 53x
    Ping G400 3w 13.9* Blueboard OG 63x
    Ping G400 5w 16.5* Blueboard Ion 73x
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* Kuro Kage 80s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* Kuro Kage 90s
    Callaway Apex UT 30* AD DI 105x
    Mizuno 919t 6-PW UST Recoil 110s
    Vokey SM2 50-54tvd-59tvd-64 s400
    Titleist Scotty X7M

  • matchavezmatchavez Aotearoa New ZealandUnregistered  4286WRX Points: 380Posts: 4,286 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @JerryTBall said:

    On -, @matchavez said:

    On -, @JerryTBall said:

    Cardi, when I had my BP’s, I did not even think about swing weight, as I naïvely thought they come with what ping makes them, that’s the science they had behind them and made them a great club! So mine came SW 0, guess that is stock. So say my 919’s come in with a certain SW, say 2, and the shafts work well for them. Should I order a set of BP’s if I want to go down that road again with that same setup? Just looking for humble opinions!

    Jerry, stock is D2. Make sure whoever enters them gets that put in the computer correctly. Otherwise, there's a lot more variance. Mine luckily were less than a point off -- all of them came in about d1.3, so I was ok with it. But I also noticed DD didn't enter the weights explicitly except for one wedge. Sure enough, that wedge was d4.0. It's all a matter of getting exactly what you want onto the build ticket.

    Mat,
    I found and interesting article, never heard this before........
    MOI Matching as an Alternative to Swing Weight Matched Clubs
    Matching all clubs in a set to their MOI has become a viable alternative to swing weight matching for many golfers. MOI matching may also be thought of roughly as building the clubs in a set to progressively increase swing weights from long to short irons in the set.

    Candidates for MOI matching over swing weight matching can be golfers who:

    Go in and out of consistency issues with the irons
    Suffer from occasional-to-frequent bouts of pulling short iron shots offline
    Sense less comfort and consistency with the short irons vs other irons in the set

    There is at least one monster thread on this. It's a reasonable approach. If you want to make it easy on yourself, just order everything in 0.5sw increases. Thus your 5 is a d2, 6 is d2.5, etc until you get to your PW. It's not perfect, but I'm not sure it's worth it. I've tried it myself, and I found it to be ok -- but don't go to any great lengths to do it. After you MOI, then you start to wonder why you're not SLI, then your grips... then suddenly you have a case of the Chambeaus.

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    14 Pings. Blueprints are incredibly good. Fetch is the most underrated putter on the market. Don't @ me.

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  • PowderedToastManPowderedToastMan Members  4350WRX Points: 1,612Posts: 4,350 Titanium Tees
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    What this thread has definitely sold me on is trying heavier swingweights in my irons. Sending my S55’s back to PING this winter to beef up those CTP’s.

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    Former professional golfer. Current amateur human being. Reformed club ho.

    In the bag:

    PING. Lots of PING.
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    On -, @PowderedToastMan said:

    What this thread has definitely sold me on is trying heavier swingweights in my irons. Sending my S55’s back to PING this winter to beef up those CTP’s.

    Experiment with lead tape Toastie

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    Ping G400 LST 11* Blueboard Matte 53x
    Ping G400 3w 13.9* Blueboard OG 63x
    Ping G400 5w 16.5* Blueboard Ion 73x
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* Kuro Kage 80s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* Kuro Kage 90s
    Callaway Apex UT 30* AD DI 105x
    Mizuno 919t 6-PW UST Recoil 110s
    Vokey SM2 50-54tvd-59tvd-64 s400
    Titleist Scotty X7M

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    On -, @cardoustie said:

    On -, @PowderedToastMan said:

    What this thread has definitely sold me on is trying heavier swingweights in my irons. Sending my S55’s back to PING this winter to beef up those CTP’s.

    Experiment with lead tape Toastie

    I’m the kind of guy that doesn’t sleep at night with the thought of flimsy tape on his tools.

    Probably a better way of saying that, but I stand by it.

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    Former professional golfer. Current amateur human being. Reformed club ho.

    In the bag:

    PING. Lots of PING.
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    I just mean experiment. Play w tape amounts on 1 club to find what u like ... then rip ir off and have Ping match the swing-weight
    Ps my s55's are covered in tape and they look majestic

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    Ping G400 LST 11* Blueboard Matte 53x
    Ping G400 3w 13.9* Blueboard OG 63x
    Ping G400 5w 16.5* Blueboard Ion 73x
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* Kuro Kage 80s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* Kuro Kage 90s
    Callaway Apex UT 30* AD DI 105x
    Mizuno 919t 6-PW UST Recoil 110s
    Vokey SM2 50-54tvd-59tvd-64 s400
    Titleist Scotty X7M

  • Kale_mKale_m Members  2443WRX Points: 508Posts: 2,443 Platinum Tees
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    Someone compare these to raw apex MB’s? Bounce the close to the same? Feel?

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    Taylormade Sim 9* (9.75*) Accra tour Z RPG 472 m5+
    Titleist TS3 15* Evenflow White T1100 75g 6.0
    Ping g410 3hy at 20* with tensei white 90tx 
    Titleist 4-6 718 CB 7-PW 718 MB PX LZ 6.5
    Callaway md4 52/56/ 60
    Scotty Cameron 2012 Newport 2
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    I need to put a padlock and Keep Out sign on this thread.

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    Ping GMax 400 10.5 TPT 17 LKP
    Callawy Epic 5W 
    Callaway X-hot pro 3,4 h
    TM P790 5-W, DG 105 R
    Mizuno MP4 4-W, c-taper lite, 105 R
    Macgregor 1025M 4-W, KBS tour v, 110 S
    Vokey SM7 48, 52, 56
    Fourteen mt28v3 50, 54, 58
    Cameron Futura 5W



  • Howard_JonesHoward_Jones Members  11303WRX Points: 2,080Posts: 11,303 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @matchavez said:

    On -, @JerryTBall said:

    On -, @matchavez said:

    On -, @JerryTBall said:

    Cardi, when I had my BP’s, I did not even think about swing weight, as I naïvely thought they come with what ping makes them, that’s the science they had behind them and made them a great club! So mine came SW 0, guess that is stock. So say my 919’s come in with a certain SW, say 2, and the shafts work well for them. Should I order a set of BP’s if I want to go down that road again with that same setup? Just looking for humble opinions!

    Jerry, stock is D2. Make sure whoever enters them gets that put in the computer correctly. Otherwise, there's a lot more variance. Mine luckily were less than a point off -- all of them came in about d1.3, so I was ok with it. But I also noticed DD didn't enter the weights explicitly except for one wedge. Sure enough, that wedge was d4.0. It's all a matter of getting exactly what you want onto the build ticket.

    Mat,
    I found and interesting article, never heard this before........
    MOI Matching as an Alternative to Swing Weight Matched Clubs
    Matching all clubs in a set to their MOI has become a viable alternative to swing weight matching for many golfers. MOI matching may also be thought of roughly as building the clubs in a set to progressively increase swing weights from long to short irons in the set.

    Candidates for MOI matching over swing weight matching can be golfers who:

    Go in and out of consistency issues with the irons
    Suffer from occasional-to-frequent bouts of pulling short iron shots offline
    Sense less comfort and consistency with the short irons vs other irons in the set

    There is at least one monster thread on this. It's a reasonable approach. If you want to make it easy on yourself, just order everything in 0.5sw increases. Thus your 5 is a d2, 6 is d2.5, etc until you get to your PW. It's not perfect, but I'm not sure it's worth it. I've tried it myself, and I found it to be ok -- but don't go to any great lengths to do it. After you MOI, then you start to wonder why you're not SLI, then your grips... then suddenly you have a case of the Chambeaus.

    Not to High-Jack this tread, but a Custom order with 4/8" between club and 0.5 SWP progression might not be within what they accept, but there is another way to it all...Order the set to FLAT SW value where you focus on specs for your #9 iron on play and SW value. Order the set with grips loose. When you get the set home, you cut them shorter progressively by 2.0 mm from the #8 and longer. if the set is 3-PW your #3 iron becomes "1 club shorter", and SW progression WITHOUT reset of head weight becomes 1.1 SW pr inch, or 1 step closer to Actual Moi match of 1.33 SW pr inch.

    This way we combine a progressive slope very close to actual MOI, and slightly easier long irons to play since both length and resistance goes down. This way the player who could not handle his #4 iron can squeeze that club in, or the player who could not handle his #3 iron makes room for that club. If you already play 3-PW you make room for a Driving iron you can handle.

    Its a better and easier set to play, vs a set made to 4/8" with 0.5 SWP progression, and a good option to going 3/8" who demands little reset of head weight (lead tape, tips weight or tungsten powder).

    Compare of standard 4/8"(12.7 mm) vs 10.7 mm vs 3/8" (9.35 mm)
    Starting from #8 makes a slightly longer set vs stating from #8

    How to butt cut shafts to make this sets. Butt cut is equal to how much shorter we go on that club vs STD.

    So, just order the set to what ever specs needed for the #9 iron and the same FLAT SW value for all - Then butt cut 2.0 mm progressively like the chart, add grips on, and get out to play.

    I cant be much easier than that. Then you get a set thats very closed to MOI matched (closer than 4/8" with 0.5 SWP between clubs), NO reset of head weight needed, and you get improved ball striking all the way to the longest club who gets about 1 club shorter than standard. This way we can modify a iron set to give us "1 club shorter in" and that club will be easier to play then the one you had of the same play length.

    If you want to go 3/8" and "poor mans MOI Match", we can do the same. Focus on specs for your #8 or #9 irons, order the set as 4/8" with the SW value your #8 or #9 should have, butt cut and ADD the grams needed you find in this Chart. (Lead tape or Tungsten powder), Add grips and play.

    The longest club might need 0.75* more upright (if its 6/8" shorter, the clubs thats 4/8" shorter up with 0.5* etc) 1/8" shorter = 1/8 of 1.0* , 2/8" shorter = 2/8 of 1.0* in sets where standard is 0.5* between clubs).

    Example for use of the chart.
    You play a #9 iron thats plus 0.5" from standard, and standard SW value was D2 as "std play length", so thats club should be D5 now.
    The specs for a set with a #9 thats plus 0.5" is equal to using a "std" #5 iron as starting point (look at those lines)

    If the #9 is your favorite club, and everything is just fine with it, order the set as plus 0.5" with a flat SW value of D5, and _Butt cut like it was a standard set using the #9 iron row as stating point.

    BUTT cut like this when you order 4/8" with Flat SW value, and use your #9 as Stating point.

    All values is "relative to std and D2 as standard", so staring point does not matter, just make sure that club is the favorite, and base the specs on that club.

    The example set with a #9 thats plus 0.5" at D5 as starting point.

    How to figure out if this is the way to go for YOU?
    If your #9 is your favorite and the club we wants to Duplicate so the others get the same actual resistance, grab your longest iron and "tape down" play length like that suggested shortening was already done, add the suggested amount of lead tape to the head, and try that club off. The way it feels and plays now is as close as we can get without actually cutting it shorter. For 10.7 mm sets, we dont need any weight added, so if your #3 is the longest, "tape it 12 mm shorter (12,7 mm is 0.5"), and try that club off, and if its the #4 thats the longest, tape it down 10 mm and test it, and compare it directly to your #9 to feel if they are a "good match" or equal effort to swing so we can use the same power and swing on both.

    ALL MODS AND NUMBERS is based on Classic 4/8" sets with FLAT SW value for all clubs in the set. If you order without grips and cut at home, you have a easy job to build what ever you like based on standard components and sets ALL OEMs can deliver.

    Just make sure you base the order on the specs for your #9, then you can go 10.7 mm or minus 2.0 mm pr club - , 9.70 mm or minus 3.0 mm pr. club - 3/8" (9.35 mm), or 8.7 mm who is minus 4.0 mm pr club - or 5/16" (7.93 mm), you have tons of options, based on a uncomplicated order to OEMS if you can cut and make SW values right yourself.

    Here is 5 CUSTOM option for MOI Matching, all set ups based on the #9 iron. Both butt cut instructions and grams needed to reset head weights to a slope of 1.33 SWP is done for you. You can make all of them based on a "regular OEM order" with loose grips.

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    Woah...

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  • JakeW13JakeW13 Members  121WRX Points: 139Handicap: 4.1Posts: 121 Fairways
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    So with my set being power spec, I’m looking for a gap wedge and was wondering if you guys have any suggestions for something that would transition well. This would be a full swing club so something that isn’t super jarring in comparison to the Blurprint PW. Thoughts?

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    Driver: Ping G410 Plus, 9 Degrees Flat setting, Weight in Toe, Accra TZ5 65 M5
    FW: Titleist TS2 3W, 15 Degrees, Graphite Design Tour AD Blue 75 X
    3 Iron: Taylormade P790s, Nippon Pro Modus Tour 105S
    4-PW: Ping Blueprint, Red Dot Power Spec, DG 120 S300
    50: Cleveland RTX DG S400
    56&60: Callaway MD3
    Putter: Taylormade Spider X Navy 34"
    Ball: Titleist Pro V1 (2019)
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    On -, @JakeW13 said:

    So with my set being power spec, I’m looking for a gap wedge and was wondering if you guys have any suggestions for something that would transition well. This would be a full swing club so something that isn’t super jarring in comparison to the Blurprint PW. Thoughts?

    Glide forged.

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  • JerryTBallJerryTBall Avid Amateur NCMembers  591WRX Points: 239Handicap: 8Posts: 591 Golden Tee
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    Before I got rid of mine, and I’m sure I’ll catch some Sh** for saying this lol, buy another BP PW, have loft/lie/length adjusted, mark appropriately?

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    I change clubs too often to be able to update my signature but here’s what I currently play
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  • ZAPZAP ClubWRX  1712WRX Points: 253Handicap: 4Posts: 1,712 ClubWRX
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    BP PW is so easy to hit partial shots with as well it has me considering not even carrying a gap wedge myself. I got rid of mine to raise funds for the BPs in the first place and I have not missed it yet.

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