WHHHHHAAAA? New Mizuno ST-200, ST-200G and ST-200X Drivers!

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  • ssfrannyssfranny Lefty Boomers  3040WRX Points: 305Posts: 3,040 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @tbowles411 said:

    They don't look bad. If they perform like the ST190s did, they'll be a hit, like that last versions were.

    We’re the Mizunos a good seller? I hit couple times and seemed both drivers were for high SS players they hit too low for me.

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  • rt_chargerrt_charger Ball Hitter Members  313WRX Points: 107Posts: 313 Greens
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    Good god, when dis this happen? How did you get this picture? Is this going to be release soon? Soooo many questions omg. The x looks like it's a 440cc head!!

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    On -, @Popeye64 said:

    I'm actually surprised how short of a cycle the 190 was. Loved it when I hit it.

    Pretty sure all Mizuno drivers and fairways have Always had a 1 year cycle.

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  • EHolmEHolm Members  432WRX Points: 80Posts: 432 Greens
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    From what I've been told, the X is going to be for low ss who needs more speed and higher launch. Guessing the screw in the heel is for some draw bias but not sure.
    The 190 line have been a hit for Mizuno as far as I've heard, seen a few around the courses as well and thats not common with Mizuno drivers. If TM or Cally would have released the 190 I'm positive it would have been a top 3 seller this year. Got the looks, sound and the performance, just not the pedigree of the giants in the driver market

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    I'm sure there's a good reason from an engineering standpoint but the protrusion in the weight track looks goofy. I fit into the g model after getting fit by mizuno last year, anticipating the same this year, I can day dream and pretend it's omitted from the retail release. hope they stick with the sleek black and subtle blue color ways!

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    On -, @dmbrill719 said:

    On -, @tsecor said:

    if it aint Callaway, Titleist or TM, it aint a hit as far as drivers go.

    Add Ping to that list then that about covers it.

    Ping is killing it right now and unless they can compete with Ping or TM I wonder why they bother? No offense to mizuno because they make the best irons on the planet but how does it make sense fiscally. I would never even look at it.

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  • Left RoughLeft Rough Members  506WRX Points: 92Posts: 506 Golden Tee
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    C'mon no draw bias and please sit square to slightly open when grounded. I wanted the 190 to be my driver last year but couldn't make it work.

    Also, while I'm making unsolicited requests, I hope either the 200 or 200G are deep-faced!

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  • StillCantPuttStillCantPutt Members  111WRX Points: 98Posts: 111 Fairways
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    Curious to understand what the notch in the Wave track is on the 200G. Looking forward to see what the fairways look like too. I may have 12 Mizuno clubs in the bag soon enough.

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    On -, @ssfranny said:

    On -, @tbowles411 said:

    They don't look bad. If they perform like the ST190s did, they'll be a hit, like that last versions were.

    We’re the Mizunos a good seller? I hit couple times and seemed both drivers were for high SS players they hit too low for me.

    They sold pretty well. More than in the past since Mizuno didn't focus on drivers barely at all. Now, they didn't sell as well as the more established drivers, but they did pretty well.

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    On -, @Lenny2 said:

    On -, @dmbrill719 said:

    On -, @tsecor said:

    if it aint Callaway, Titleist or TM, it aint a hit as far as drivers go.

    Add Ping to that list then that about covers it.

    Ping is killing it right now and unless they can compete with Ping or TM I wonder why they bother? No offense to mizuno because they make the best irons on the planet but how does it make sense fiscally. I would never even look at it.

    I understand where you stand, I have a G410 Plus and I love it, but trust me when I say, the ST190/ST190G stands right up with my G410, in every category, the biggest issue with Mizuno woods doesn’t lie in the product, it lies in the consumer and the inability to try them.

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    If the crown is matte carbon I don't care if im 15 yards less im buying it.

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  • tobybeartobybear Members, Media Staffer  1502WRX Points: 95Posts: 1,502 Platinum Tees
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    Mizuno has been smart with their metal woods releases.

    Make a GREAT driver - Keep in priced under the BIG 3 - DONT over produce heads to try and get large forced early "sell in" at retail, only to risk them being discounted - Repeat with a new better driver.

    This simple strategy is helping them slowly gain some market share as far as I can tell

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  • tsecortsecor Loading........ Members  4725WRX Points: 495Posts: 4,725 Titanium Tees
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    its all in the marketing.....Mizuno irons feel no different than titleist or some of the other major mfg's, but ALL the marketing is on feel and "Grain flow" forging.... they are a great product, but they feel no different to me. If Mizuno marketed their drivers and paid top level pros to paly them, they would sell 10x as many. but that's left to TM right now

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    On -, @Lenny2 said:

    On -, @dmbrill719 said:

    On -, @tsecor said:

    if it aint Callaway, Titleist or TM, it aint a hit as far as drivers go.

    Add Ping to that list then that about covers it.

    Ping is killing it right now and unless they can compete with Ping or TM I wonder why they bother? No offense to mizuno because they make the best irons on the planet but how does it make sense fiscally. I would never even look at it.

    But they do compete, the 190 delivers as well or better than the rest. The only issue is getting to a point where a fitter doesn't have to hand it to you to try it rather than you wanting to try it from the start, Thats where pedigree comes in the picture and that takes time. The 180 was good but blue, now they got the color down as well so really looking forward to the 200

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  • simpy19simpy19 Members  647WRX Points: 130Posts: 647 Golden Tee
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    I took a flyer on a used ST190 driver a few months ago...Best I have ever played, by far...just love everything about it. Don't want to make a move, but intrigued on what these can do!

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  • NollsterNollster ClubWRX  384WRX Points: 96Posts: 384 ClubWRX
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    On -, @mrmikeac said:

    On -, @Doyouevenblade said:

    Just saw the st190 3 wood today and it sat beautifully, if they brought an adjustable hosel to that, look out wallet.

    There are 2 versions of the ST190 FW’s

    The ST190TS has an adjustable hosel and its an absolute rocket launcher.

    Can confirm this...After getting my ST190, I picked up a minty used TS with the Atmos 7s Tour Spec for $100 and haven't looked back! There's a really nice used 190G with a 6s Tour Spec in the pro shop for $175, down from the $225 it started at -- and there's a new 190G with the stock shaft for $485 in the new stuff...Don't know why the used one is still there other than the fact that it's not TM/Titleist/Cally/Ping, so no one knows how good it is.

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  • the bishopthe bishop Members  3868WRX Points: 873Posts: 3,868 Titanium Tees
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    IIRC there was a story earlier this year about how Keith Mitchell went in to test an ST190 by his description "as a courtesy to Mizuno" to give them some pro numbers and was so impressed by it he put it straight in the bag. Or so the story went. Didn't he win with one in the bag? I dunno...

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    On -, @the bishop said:

    IIRC there was a story earlier this year about how Keith Mitchell went in to test an ST190 by his description "as a courtesy to Mizuno" to give them some pro numbers and was so impressed by it he put it straight in the bag. Or so the story went. Didn't he win with one in the bag? I dunno...

    Yes he did. IIRC the ST190 has one PGA win and one KornFerry win as of now.

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    On -, @the bishop said:

    IIRC there was a story earlier this year about how Keith Mitchell went in to test an ST190 by his description "as a courtesy to Mizuno" to give them some pro numbers and was so impressed by it he put it straight in the bag. Or so the story went. Didn't he win with one in the bag? I dunno...

    That video is what sold me on the driver. The sound it made was intoxicating!

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  • lefty1978lefty1978 Charlotte, NCMembers  609WRX Points: 369Handicap: 8.7Posts: 609 Golden Tee
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    I wonder which one will be the lefty model.

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  • ssfrannyssfranny Lefty Boomers  3040WRX Points: 305Posts: 3,040 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @Lenny2 said:

    On -, @dmbrill719 said:

    On -, @tsecor said:

    if it aint Callaway, Titleist or TM, it aint a hit as far as drivers go.

    Add Ping to that list then that about covers it.

    Ping is killing it right now and unless they can compete with Ping or TM I wonder why they bother? No offense to mizuno because they make the best irons on the planet but how does it make sense fiscally. I would never even look at it.

    best irons on the planet? Srixon are just as soft and Callaway and PXG play better in my opinion.

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  • Hammer22Hammer22 Members  623WRX Points: 158Handicap: <8Posts: 623 Golden Tee
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    From the article on the main page:

    _More Adjustability in the G

    The one thing we can tell from the picture of the new ST200G is the weights appear to be 11g each in the sliding tracks versus the 7g found in the ST190G. That’s a total 8g of additional mass or—just a smidge under 60 percent movable weight to help alter ball flight as spin. The additional mass in the weights brings me to the conclusion Mizuno engineers must have found some weight savings around the head which could mean either a new structure, internal design, or multi-material to help boost CG adjustability._


    The weights are not 11g - they have small grooves on either side of them that look like an '"11", but are just cuts. Same as the ST190G - 7g each.

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    On -, @ssfranny said:

    On -, @Lenny2 said:

    On -, @dmbrill719 said:

    On -, @tsecor said:

    if it aint Callaway, Titleist or TM, it aint a hit as far as drivers go.

    Add Ping to that list then that about covers it.

    Ping is killing it right now and unless they can compete with Ping or TM I wonder why they bother? No offense to mizuno because they make the best irons on the planet but how does it make sense fiscally. I would never even look at it.

    best irons on the planet? Srixon are just as soft and Callaway and PXG play better in my opinion.

    you're questioning his opinion while giving your own. because that's what he was giving even if he didn't qualify it. that's all any of us do.

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    ST190 was a fairway finder for me. Drives were shorter compared to the M6 I game now but I couldn't miss a fairway. Hope these can compete in that aspect.

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    Will be worth a look in the spring

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    These look awesome! I am really excited to compare all of them to each other. The ST 190 is already a great driver! Now the ST 200 is gonna be less upright and better looking at adress.

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    obviously impossible to tell from the pictures, but maybe a hint of "speed back" type technology in the sole of the st200? similar to f9 and tm m6, any one else seeing it?

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    On -, @Canthelion said:

    obviously impossible to tell from the pictures, but maybe a hint of "speed back" type technology in the sole of the st200? similar to f9 and tm m6, any one else seeing it?

    CG back and down has been a win since G400 and other previous models.

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    Wish they continue with the blue accents somewhere.

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    Looks great. Worth a shot for a demo

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