Callaway epic flash? is this legit? (New Pics added Pg 1)

[jonn443]

When's the release date for this and how much?

2/1/19. $529.99

 

Cally - $529

TM - $549

PXG - $575

 

What is going on?!?!?

Capitalism...

 

More like GREED and stupidity (to think they will sell that many drivers at those ridiculous prices).

[Farrow]

When's the release date for this and how much?

2/1/19. $529.99

 

Cally - $529

TM - $549

PXG - $575

 

What is going on?!?!?

Capitalism...

 

More like GREED and stupidity (to think they will sell that many drivers at those ridiculous prices).

 

Well the great thing about capitalism is that if what you say is true then they’ll find out real quick and be forced to revisit their pricing. It’s a win win for everyone!

[radiman]

When's the release date for this and how much?

2/1/19. $529.99

 

Cally - $529

TM - $549

PXG - $575

 

What is going on?!?!?

Capitalism...

 

More like GREED and stupidity (to think they will sell that many drivers at those ridiculous prices).

 

Costs rise. They went up $30 from last year. Could easily be an increase in manufacturing costs. Companies aren't charities. If there wasn't money to be made, they wouldn't be in business. The Epic sold like mad at $500. Do you think someone who was willing to drop 5 bills on a golf club would blink to throw in another $30?

[Holy Moses]

When's the release date for this and how much?

2/1/19. $529.99

 

Cally - $529

TM - $549

PXG - $575

 

What is going on?!?!?

Capitalism...

 

More like GREED and stupidity (to think they will sell that many drivers at those ridiculous prices).

 

A company can’t sell a driver at the same price forever and in a strong economy. At the very least, inflation drives prices up. Callaway had to rent some supercomputer with AI for the Epic Flash and that can’t be cheap. I think they should have incorporated AI into the name of the driver though.

[GolfChannel]

Other than being the first with new toys, I never understood buying brand new equipment at release prices, it seems like a fools move financially and intellectually.

 

If I was getting it at cost or to use and review that's one thing, but I will let some other sucker potentially lose money while they sort out the kinks for us on the forum.

[sbjinx]

Other than being the first with new toys, I never understood buying brand new equipment at release prices, it seems like a fools move financially and intellectually.

 

If I was getting it at cost or to use and review that's one thing, but I will let some other sucker potentially lose money while they sort out the kinks for us on the forum.

 

Some people just like having the newest and greatest. I usually wait till all the reviews but sometimes I’m just a sucker

[radiman]

Other than being the first with new toys, I never understood buying brand new equipment at release prices, it seems like a fools move financially and intellectually.

 

If I was getting it at cost or to use and review that's one thing, but I will let some other sucker potentially lose money while they sort out the kinks for us on the forum.

 

What kinks need to be worked out ok a golf club that would cost anyone money? Also, if no one bought new ones, there wouldn't be any used inventory to be had for those that like to wait such as yourself.

[bladehunter]

I need to see it in person but right now that white line on top looks like the crown got cracked.

 

Was told it was on purpose design. To mimick the m series color break line. Apparently it’s a tour players observation and common like of the m series. The line for alignment. I. An see that my self too after they mention it. Sure frames the ball

[bladehunter]

Other than being the first with new toys, I never understood buying brand new equipment at release prices, it seems like a fools move financially and intellectually.

 

If I was getting it at cost or to use and review that's one thing, but I will let some other sucker potentially lose money while they sort out the kinks for us on the forum.

 

What kinks need to be worked out ok a golf club that would cost anyone money? Also, if no one bought new ones, there wouldn't be any used inventory to be had for those that like to wait such as yourself.

 

Usual have to wait 6 months to save $50. Only way to come out on that logic is buy a whole model year behind.

[GolfChannel]

Other than being the first with new toys, I never understood buying brand new equipment at release prices, it seems like a fools move financially and intellectually.

 

If I was getting it at cost or to use and review that's one thing, but I will let some other sucker potentially lose money while they sort out the kinks for us on the forum.

 

What kinks need to be worked out ok a golf club that would cost anyone money? Also, if no one bought new ones, there wouldn't be any used inventory to be had for those that like to wait such as yourself.

 

By kinks, I mean club tendencies over time. What are the consistent performance characteristics of the club? Does it have a fade/draw bias? Low/high spin. Only works well with particular shafts or swing types.

[GoGoErky]

Other than being the first with new toys, I never understood buying brand new equipment at release prices, it seems like a fools move financially and intellectually.

 

If I was getting it at cost or to use and review that's one thing, but I will let some other sucker potentially lose money while they sort out the kinks for us on the forum.

 

What kinks need to be worked out ok a golf club that would cost anyone money? Also, if no one bought new ones, there wouldn't be any used inventory to be had for those that like to wait such as yourself.

 

By kinks, I mean club tendencies over time. What are the consistent performance characteristics of the club? Does it have a fade/draw bias? Low/high spin. Only works well with particular shafts or swing types.

 

Go to a demo day or a fitting upon release and o e can figure that all out.

[wcbjr]

Cally - $529

TM - $549

PXG - $575

 

What is going on?!?!?

 

'Merica.

 

I still play SLDR 3-wood and hybrid, and a used GBB driver head. New stuff can wait until it falls under $100.

[spartan6910]

Other than being the first with new toys, I never understood buying brand new equipment at release prices, it seems like a fools move financially and intellectually.

 

If I was getting it at cost or to use and review that's one thing, but I will let some other sucker potentially lose money while they sort out the kinks for us on the forum.

 

What kinks need to be worked out ok a golf club that would cost anyone money? Also, if no one bought new ones, there wouldn't be any used inventory to be had for those that like to wait such as yourself.

 

By kinks, I mean club tendencies over time. What are the consistent performance characteristics of the club? Does it have a fade/draw bias? Low/high spin. Only works well with particular shafts or swing types.

 

Have you never been fitted? I can do all that in an hour in a bay, and find it out for my exact swing, as opposed to taking others' word and basing their experiences off a swing that may not even come close to mimicking mine.

 

Club characteristics generally don't change over time. It's not like these companies are doing a half-model year refresh. If someone wants to pay full price, they can get it right the first time if they do it the right way.

[toddyc]

When's the release date for this and how much?

2/1/19. $529.99

 

Cally - $529

TM - $549

PXG - $575

 

What is going on?!?!?

Capitalism...

 

Without capitalism you wouldn’t even have these choices

 

When's the release date for this and how much?

2/1/19. $529.99

 

Cally - $529

TM - $549

PXG - $575

 

What is going on?!?!?

Capitalism...

 

Without capitalism you wouldn’t even have these choices

[spartan6910]

Anyone have any insight yet into what the difference(s?) between the 3 SZ models is?

[Zakers23]

All these club pros have it and no one can throw it on track man?

[bladehunter]

All these club pros have it and no one can throw it on track man?

 

Thought Ollie did and claimed 4mph or something in ballspeed.

[BostonWRX]

All these club pros have it and no one can throw it on track man?

My buddy is a club pro here in MA and on Callaway Staff. He got the flash head sent to him

 

He plays the Epic currently. He liked it better then the Rogue which sat in his garage. Hes not a high spin guy so does not need the sub zero versions

 

Long story short he said he will be sticking with his Epic. Saw no gains with the Flash and said he hated the sound.

[Holy Moses]

All these club pros have it and no one can throw it on track man?

 

Thought Ollie did and claimed 4mph or something in ballspeed.

 

4 MPH is not really the truth. I misspoke on this point earlier. He’s hitting the ball at fast as he hit it with the Flash in November as he did on a hot summer day with his Rogue. We don’t know summer numbers yet.

[chris975d]

All these club pros have it and no one can throw it on track man?

My buddy is a club pro here in MA and on Callaway Staff. He got the flash head sent to him

 

He plays the Epic currently. He liked it better then the Rogue which sat in his garage. Hes not a high spin guy so does not need the sub zero versions

 

Long story short he said he will be sticking with his Epic. Saw no gains with the Flash and said he hated the sound.

 

I'm thinking the sound with this driver is definitely going to be a polarizing issue. As I've said (I think in this thread, there are a few going about Callaway), I can't adjust to the sound of mine. Haven't even taken it out on the course the past week or so, and it will not be going into rotation. There are way too many better sounding drivers available now that perform just as good. There are plenty of golfers out there that don't pay attention to sound, or even like a loud metallic sound/softball bat sound/glass bottle sound (all descriptions that I've heard for my Flash so far)...look at the sales success of the PING G series (before G400) despite their loud sound. I just have to have a more solid, muted sound to be comfortable playing a driver (or any club, really).

[BostonWRX]

All these club pros have it and no one can throw it on track man?

My buddy is a club pro here in MA and on Callaway Staff. He got the flash head sent to him

 

He plays the Epic currently. He liked it better then the Rogue which sat in his garage. Hes not a high spin guy so does not need the sub zero versions

 

Long story short he said he will be sticking with his Epic. Saw no gains with the Flash and said he hated the sound.

 

I'm thinking the sound with this driver is definitely going to be a polarizing issue. As I've said (I think in this thread, there are a few going about Callaway), I can't adjust to the sound of mine. Haven't even taken it out on the course the past week or so, and it will not be going into rotation. There are way too many better sounding drivers available now that perform just as good. There are plenty of golfers out there that don't pay attention to sound, or even like a loud metallic sound/softball bat sound/glass bottle sound (all descriptions that I've heard for my Flash so far)...look at the sales success of the PING G series (before G400) despite their loud sound. I just have to have a more solid, muted sound to be comfortable playing a driver (or any club, really).

Yeah he said if there were solid gains he would play the Flash even with the sound but nothing gained compared to his Epic which he hammers.

[radiman]

All these club pros have it and no one can throw it on track man?

My buddy is a club pro here in MA and on Callaway Staff. He got the flash head sent to him

 

He plays the Epic currently. He liked it better then the Rogue which sat in his garage. Hes not a high spin guy so does not need the sub zero versions

 

Long story short he said he will be sticking with his Epic. Saw no gains with the Flash and said he hated the sound.

 

I'm thinking the sound with this driver is definitely going to be a polarizing issue. As I've said (I think in this thread, there are a few going about Callaway), I can't adjust to the sound of mine. Haven't even taken it out on the course the past week or so, and it will not be going into rotation. There are way too many better sounding drivers available now that perform just as good. There are plenty of golfers out there that don't pay attention to sound, or even like a loud metallic sound/softball bat sound/glass bottle sound (all descriptions that I've heard for my Flash so far)...look at the sales success of the PING G series (before G400) despite their loud sound. I just have to have a more solid, muted sound to be comfortable playing a driver (or any club, really).

 

I remember the Epic SZ had a hollow thunk to it when the heavy weight was in the back. It sounds like the front weight on the SZ is only a couple of grams. I wonder if it will improve the sound at all by putting a heavier weight up there. I realize that not everyone will want to increase the swing weight to adjust the sound. I am a bit surprised that they are going away from the movable front and rear weights. I personally would rather have that than a track on the back. But, we shall see when they hit retail I guess.

 

In your opinion, is this sound more offensive than the G30/G driver from a few years back?

[chris975d]

All these club pros have it and no one can throw it on track man?

My buddy is a club pro here in MA and on Callaway Staff. He got the flash head sent to him

 

He plays the Epic currently. He liked it better then the Rogue which sat in his garage. Hes not a high spin guy so does not need the sub zero versions

 

Long story short he said he will be sticking with his Epic. Saw no gains with the Flash and said he hated the sound.

 

I'm thinking the sound with this driver is definitely going to be a polarizing issue. As I've said (I think in this thread, there are a few going about Callaway), I can't adjust to the sound of mine. Haven't even taken it out on the course the past week or so, and it will not be going into rotation. There are way too many better sounding drivers available now that perform just as good. There are plenty of golfers out there that don't pay attention to sound, or even like a loud metallic sound/softball bat sound/glass bottle sound (all descriptions that I've heard for my Flash so far)...look at the sales success of the PING G series (before G400) despite their loud sound. I just have to have a more solid, muted sound to be comfortable playing a driver (or any club, really).

 

I remember the Epic SZ had a hollow thunk to it when the heavy weight was in the back. It sounds like the front weight on the SZ is only a couple of grams. I wonder if it will improve the sound at all by putting a heavier weight up there. I realize that not everyone will want to increase the swing weight to adjust the sound. I am a bit surprised that they are going away from the movable front and rear weights. I personally would rather have that than a track on the back. But, we shall see when they hit retail I guess.

 

In your opinion, is this sound more offensive than the G30/G driver from a few years back?

 

I've actually tried a few different weights in the front port...I have a load of them, since I play my drivers way shorter than Cally's standard length, and I need a heavier SW than stock to boot...so I often have to add 18-20 grams to a driver head..., and the sound hasn't changed a noticeable amount (to me). As far as the PING G30/G goes, I don't have an old PING to hit side by side, but for my sound preferences, they are one in the same. Realistically the Cally may not be quite as loud as the old PINGs, but for my preferences, once something reaches a certain unpleasing level, it's out. It could be 3 times louder than it is right now, or half as loud, but the sound gives me the sensation that the club isn't very "solid", if that makes sense...since we all know sound is the majority of what we describe as "feel".

[radiman]

All these club pros have it and no one can throw it on track man?

My buddy is a club pro here in MA and on Callaway Staff. He got the flash head sent to him

 

He plays the Epic currently. He liked it better then the Rogue which sat in his garage. Hes not a high spin guy so does not need the sub zero versions

 

Long story short he said he will be sticking with his Epic. Saw no gains with the Flash and said he hated the sound.

 

I'm thinking the sound with this driver is definitely going to be a polarizing issue. As I've said (I think in this thread, there are a few going about Callaway), I can't adjust to the sound of mine. Haven't even taken it out on the course the past week or so, and it will not be going into rotation. There are way too many better sounding drivers available now that perform just as good. There are plenty of golfers out there that don't pay attention to sound, or even like a loud metallic sound/softball bat sound/glass bottle sound (all descriptions that I've heard for my Flash so far)...look at the sales success of the PING G series (before G400) despite their loud sound. I just have to have a more solid, muted sound to be comfortable playing a driver (or any club, really).

 

I remember the Epic SZ had a hollow thunk to it when the heavy weight was in the back. It sounds like the front weight on the SZ is only a couple of grams. I wonder if it will improve the sound at all by putting a heavier weight up there. I realize that not everyone will want to increase the swing weight to adjust the sound. I am a bit surprised that they are going away from the movable front and rear weights. I personally would rather have that than a track on the back. But, we shall see when they hit retail I guess.

 

In your opinion, is this sound more offensive than the G30/G driver from a few years back?

 

I've actually tried a few different weights in the front port...I have a load of them, since I play my drivers way shorter than Cally's standard length, and I need a heavier SW than stock to boot...so I often have to add 18-20 grams to a driver head..., and the sound hasn't changed a noticeable amount (to me). As far as the PING G30/G goes, I don't have an old PING to hit side by side, but for my sound preferences, they are one in the same. Realistically the Cally may not be quite as loud as the old PINGs, but for my preferences, once something reaches a certain unpleasing level, it's out. It could be 3 times louder than it is right now, or half as loud, but the sound gives me the sensation that the club isn't very "solid", if that makes sense...since we all know sound is the majority of what we describe as "feel".

 

Thanks. The solid sound/feel is one thing I liked about the Callaway composite heads. A nice muted sound is a huge plus for me. The M5 with their speed goo could be the ticket. If the goo mutes the sound, add that to the fact that TM at least releases a 440 option, they may win me over this year.

[WidespreadPanic]

I actually like how this looks and I have no idea why. Is it as stretched out as that last pic made it look? I never gave the Rogue a chance bc I just couldn’t stand the stretched out shape. Also that white line on the crown looks so out of place.

[3_Jack_Par]

I like a loud driver to announce to the rest of the course that I'm hitting bombs over here. :bb2: :D

[DTown3011]

Have never chosen a driver based on sound alone. I suspect I won’t be continuing that trend either in 2019. #performanceonly

[Ed Settle]

All these club pros have it and no one can throw it on track man?

My buddy is a club pro here in MA and on Callaway Staff. He got the flash head sent to him

 

He plays the Epic currently. He liked it better then the Rogue which sat in his garage. Hes not a high spin guy so does not need the sub zero versions

 

Long story short he said he will be sticking with his Epic. Saw no gains with the Flash and said he hated the sound.

 

I'm thinking the sound with this driver is definitely going to be a polarizing issue. As I've said (I think in this thread, there are a few going about Callaway), I can't adjust to the sound of mine. Haven't even taken it out on the course the past week or so, and it will not be going into rotation. There are way too many better sounding drivers available now that perform just as good. There are plenty of golfers out there that don't pay attention to sound, or even like a loud metallic sound/softball bat sound/glass bottle sound (all descriptions that I've heard for my Flash so far)...look at the sales success of the PING G series (before G400) despite their loud sound. I just have to have a more solid, muted sound to be comfortable playing a driver (or any club, really).

 

I remember the Epic SZ had a hollow thunk to it when the heavy weight was in the back. It sounds like the front weight on the SZ is only a couple of grams. I wonder if it will improve the sound at all by putting a heavier weight up there. I realize that not everyone will want to increase the swing weight to adjust the sound. I am a bit surprised that they are going away from the movable front and rear weights. I personally would rather have that than a track on the back. But, we shall see when they hit retail I guess.

 

In your opinion, is this sound more offensive than the G30/G driver from a few years back?

 

I've actually tried a few different weights in the front port...I have a load of them, since I play my drivers way shorter than Cally's standard length, and I need a heavier SW than stock to boot...so I often have to add 18-20 grams to a driver head..., and the sound hasn't changed a noticeable amount (to me). As far as the PING G30/G goes, I don't have an old PING to hit side by side, but for my sound preferences, they are one in the same. Realistically the Cally may not be quite as loud as the old PINGs, but for my preferences, once something reaches a certain unpleasing level, it's out. It could be 3 times louder than it is right now, or half as loud, but the sound gives me the sensation that the club isn't very "solid", if that makes sense...since we all know sound is the majority of what we describe as "feel".

 

So no hot melt or other way to deaden/soften the sound?

[poppman2142]

I put about 4 grams in the toe of my flash sz and sound didn’t change much. If it is put elsewhere it might. I put a 5 gram front weight in and it sounded the same.

[sbjinx]

I put about 4 grams in the toe of my flash sz and sound didn’t change much. If it is put elsewhere it might. I put a 5 gram front weight in and it sounded the same.

 

Its the AI super face. Designed so sound isn’t impacted by hot melt