2019 Ping Blueprint Irons - New in hand photos

[NRJyzr]

> @cardoustie said:

> > @GolfMonster09 said:

> > > @cardoustie said:

> > > > @GolfMonster09 said:

> > > > > @cardoustie said:

> > > > > I sense a lot of Ping fanatics will be blueprint and 410lst by August

> > > >

> > > > Already there brotha. But you’re right, gonna be a popular bag setup.

> > >

> > > Well if I knew you well sir I would tell you to go F yourself.

> > > LST due here in 20 days. Irons to be ordered by Saturday

> >

> > Nothing I haven’t been told before, you’re all good. Being on staff has its perks. My PLD Bruzer should be here Monday or Tuesday.

> >

> > Now I’m just rubbing it in. I’ll go follow your instructions now...

>

> I don't think I could go all Ping again. I do like Glides but ...

> Too in love with my sm2 Vokey wedges and gen 1 Apex hybrids

> Plus my x7M Scotty and Piretti can't be touched

 

Come back from the Dark Side, my son....

[JerryTBall]

If you want any shaft and any grip no up-charge you can always go with Srixon. It’s also a nice blade forged iron.

[JerryTBall]

Quick question? I went through ping site looked at the shaft options, wanted to try the Nippon 105 and the DG 105 tour they had listed as options, did my fitting chose DG 105 neither shaft was going to cost me nothing extra, even with plus4 tour velvet no charge?

 

We’re you told Nippon 105 was extra charge ?

[Mikey5e]

Where's the offset gone from these irons?

[bladehunter]

> @JerryTBall said:

> Quick question? I went through ping site looked at the shaft options, wanted to try the Nippon 105 and the DG 105 tour they had listed as options, did my fitting chose DG 105 neither shaft was going to cost me nothing extra, even with plus4 tour velvet no charge?

>

> We’re you told Nippon 105 was extra charge ?

 

I though 105 was no charge. Just upcharge on 120 and 130.

[bladehunter]

> @Mikey5e said:

> Where's the offset gone from these irons?

 

 

Gone. Like the good lord intended.

[JerryTBall]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @JerryTBall said:

> > Quick question? I went through ping site looked at the shaft options, wanted to try the Nippon 105 and the DG 105 tour they had listed as options, did my fitting chose DG 105 neither shaft was going to cost me nothing extra, even with plus4 tour velvet no charge?

> >

> > We’re you told Nippon 105 was extra charge ?

>

> I though 105 was no charge. Just upcharge on 120 and 130.

That’s probably right, basically my point was you actually can get a Nippon, a KBS, the project X for no up charge but maybe not the one they want! Thanks

 

[bladehunter]

> @JerryTBall said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @JerryTBall said:

> > > Quick question? I went through ping site looked at the shaft options, wanted to try the Nippon 105 and the DG 105 tour they had listed as options, did my fitting chose DG 105 neither shaft was going to cost me nothing extra, even with plus4 tour velvet no charge?

> > >

> > > We’re you told Nippon 105 was extra charge ?

> >

> > I though 105 was no charge. Just upcharge on 120 and 130.

> That’s probably right, basically my point was you actually can get a Nippon, a KBS, the project X for no up charge but maybe not the one they want! Thanks

>

 

Oh yea. I agree. They offer more than people are saying.

[Mikey5e]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @Mikey5e said:

> > Where's the offset gone from these irons?

>

>

> Gone. Like the good lord intended.

 

I play game improvement irons now, and have played Titleist Blades of yesteryear, and would enjoy the opportunity to demo these Ping's. They have a nice appearance to them, but I think I will stick with my shovels because they probably serve me better.

[ALIF]

I will be thinking about all of you guys hitting your Ping blades while I’m playing my G700/i210 combo set. #iluvshovels

[PowderedToastMan]

> @chiva said:

> I will be thinking about all of you guys hitting your Ping blades while I’m playing my G700/i210 combo set. #iluvshovels

 

Stop pretending to be secure with your club selection.

[ALIF]

> @PowderedToastMan said:

> > @chiva said:

> > I will be thinking about all of you guys hitting your Ping blades while I’m playing my G700/i210 combo set. #iluvshovels

>

> Stop pretending to be secure with your club selection.

 

Lol!!!!

 

I actually have about six or seven sets of blades in my basement that I’ve played of the last 25 years. I just really like the combo set that I have. I retain more ball speed on mishits which I have occasionally. I also like the trajectory, launch window, flight, etc. I could easily play the Blueprints, but I just really like what I currently have. For me, it would be a high dollar experiment. I probably would end up going back to my combo set anyway. LOL.

 

[bambam]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @Mikey5e said:

> > Where's the offset gone from these irons?

>

>

> Gone. Like the good lord intended.

 

.14” on a 3 iron is still quite a bit. I’ve stayed away from Titleist blades after the 681 because the offset standard went to .125”, which is also quite a lot, even when loft is increased.

 

However, this is definitely a refreshing club from Ping.

[rbilramz]

> @tgoodspe1991 said:

> What do you guys think of PING's usual lack of free/cheap shaft upgrades? For an iron this expensive, I'm shocked at (1) the amount of shafts you have to pay for, and (2) the price they are charging for otherwise "standard" shafts. They want $38/head for C-Tapers... several of their own proprietary PING shafts are even upcharges...

 

I think it depends on how you look at money spent. Callaway and Taylormade May offer significantly more shafts at zero upcharge, but at the same time their clubs depreciate at a rate more significantly beyond Pings. A 2 year old set of iBlades sells for way more than a 6 month only set of either competitor.

The whole thing reminds me of how nearly every Jeep sells for within 5% of MSRP while I always sees commercials for Ford and Chevy over $10k off MSRP.

 

[OrangeGravy]

> @BearQ said:

> Ping is lagging behind in the shaft charge department. Always has been. My curiosity is with how smaller brands offer truly exotic upgrades for free or small fees. Yet Ping can’t give you even the modus lineup as a free option. It is pretty disappointing. But the only current gripe I have with an otherwise top notch brand

 

Someone may have already mentioned, but those smaller brands often times offer the "exotic" shafts for free or smaller fees because they're trying to capture market share. They are trying to make up for a lower consumer perception by sweetening the pot in hopes that they'll grab some more sales than they otherwise would. Ping, Mizuno, Titleist, TM, etc...have enough ca-shay that they don't need to do that to hit sales numbers. Of course if they did, they would possibly steal some sales away from their competitors.

[BearQ]

> @OrangeGravy said:

> > @BearQ said:

> > Ping is lagging behind in the shaft charge department. Always has been. My curiosity is with how smaller brands offer truly exotic upgrades for free or small fees. Yet Ping can’t give you even the modus lineup as a free option. It is pretty disappointing. But the only current gripe I have with an otherwise top notch brand

>

> Someone may have already mentioned, but those smaller brands often times offer the "exotic" shafts for free or smaller fees because they're trying to capture market share. They are trying to make up for a lower consumer perception by sweetening the pot in hopes that they'll grab some more sales than they otherwise would. Ping, Mizuno, Titleist, TM, etc...have enough ca-shay that they don't need to do that to hit sales numbers. Of course if they did, they would possibly steal some sales away from their competitors.

 

Yeah I get the concept man. You’re confirming the smaller brands are working harder, losing profit and offering more options. I’m saying ping has released a perfect mb option. Offer relative shaft lines like the modus and dg lineup as free upgrades. You’re already making plenty on the iron.

 

As far as the thought that amateurs should fit into the quality ping shafts, perhaps. But why are we denying ourselves the option for the shafts majority of their male tour staff is playing (non stock ping iron shafts)

 

I think it’s just that last little missing detail in an otherwise flawless iron release from an elite brand.

 

We demanded a forged mb. Here we are...

Could list many things Ping has listened to the consumer on lately. And they are to be saluted for that!

 

So! If we ask for the modus, dg and px lineup to be free or more reasonably priced. It’s legitimately an easy fix amongst the big moves they’ve made lately. Little details are all that’s left for Ping. This is one.

 

 

 

 

[OrangeGravy]

> @BearQ said:

> > @OrangeGravy said:

> > > @BearQ said:

> > > Ping is lagging behind in the shaft charge department. Always has been. My curiosity is with how smaller brands offer truly exotic upgrades for free or small fees. Yet Ping can’t give you even the modus lineup as a free option. It is pretty disappointing. But the only current gripe I have with an otherwise top notch brand

> >

> > Someone may have already mentioned, but those smaller brands often times offer the "exotic" shafts for free or smaller fees because they're trying to capture market share. They are trying to make up for a lower consumer perception by sweetening the pot in hopes that they'll grab some more sales than they otherwise would. Ping, Mizuno, Titleist, TM, etc...have enough ca-shay that they don't need to do that to hit sales numbers. Of course if they did, they would possibly steal some sales away from their competitors.

>

> Yeah I get the concept man. You’re confirming the smaller brands are working harder, losing profit and offering more options. I’m saying ping has released a perfect mb option. Offer relative shaft lines like the modus and dg lineup as free upgrades. You’re already making plenty on the iron.

>

> As far as the thought that amateurs should fit into the quality ping shafts, perhaps. But why are we denying ourselves the option for the shafts majority of their male tour staff is playing (non stock ping iron shafts)

>

> I think it’s just that last little missing detail in an otherwise flawless iron release from an elite brand.

>

> We demanded a forged mb. Here we are...

> Could list many things Ping has listened to the consumer on lately. And they are to be saluted for that!

>

> So! If we ask for the modus, dg and px lineup to be free or more reasonably priced. It’s legitimately an easy fix amongst the big moves they’ve made lately. Little details are all that’s left for Ping. This is one.

>

>

>

>

 

I get it. If they opened up the shaft options completely they would probably move a ton of people from considering to between the blueprints and Cobra MB, TW new blade and so on. I guess to them it must not move the bottom line enough to warrant it.

[JerryTBall]

Can’t remember how far back in this subject, but I’m standing firm, the the head look and feel is nothing if the shaft is not right, and a lot of times why I’ll buy one set of irons one after another is because I fitted in a bay and saw the real results on course! I mean I have seriously played with guys that go into deep thought, “let’s see I’ve had 3 sets in 35 years”, I chuckle, “I’ve had 3 sets this month!”.

I remember I had a set of Callaway apex with the Nippon 130 stiff, i’m 65 and I was on the range and a friend of mine who is around 70 wanted to hit them he hit the 7-iron 20 yards longer and straighter than his current set. He said would you be interested in selling those and I said actually yeah because I was thinking about going to a different iron again.

Two days later I saw them sitting in the pro shop and he was having them re-shafted because although on the range he loved them, after 18 holes he was so tired he said they were so heavy, but I thought they were the most balanced lightest shaft I’ve ever played. After he had them re-shafted with the X 95 I tried to hit those and I could not, so to me the shaft is everything and I think even though my blueprint irons are going to have the dynamic gold 105 tour, that the project X loading zone shaft is one of the nicest shafts you could hit once you’re fit for it. I’m not saying that’s gonna play well for me but if they don’t I’ll just get them re-shafted. The demo irons they had only came with the dynamic gold 120 stiff and I hit those really well so I’m going with the 105 give me just a little bit lighter shaft, I think those are going to be just fine because I don’t have a high ball flight and I do want to get the ball up a little bit as well.

[NRJyzr]

> @OrangeGravy said:

> > @BearQ said:

> > > @OrangeGravy said:

> > > > @BearQ said:

> > > > Ping is lagging behind in the shaft charge department. Always has been. My curiosity is with how smaller brands offer truly exotic upgrades for free or small fees. Yet Ping can’t give you even the modus lineup as a free option. It is pretty disappointing. But the only current gripe I have with an otherwise top notch brand

> > >

> > > Someone may have already mentioned, but those smaller brands often times offer the "exotic" shafts for free or smaller fees because they're trying to capture market share. They are trying to make up for a lower consumer perception by sweetening the pot in hopes that they'll grab some more sales than they otherwise would. Ping, Mizuno, Titleist, TM, etc...have enough ca-shay that they don't need to do that to hit sales numbers. Of course if they did, they would possibly steal some sales away from their competitors.

> >

> > Yeah I get the concept man. You’re confirming the smaller brands are working harder, losing profit and offering more options. I’m saying ping has released a perfect mb option. Offer relative shaft lines like the modus and dg lineup as free upgrades. You’re already making plenty on the iron.

> >

> > As far as the thought that amateurs should fit into the quality ping shafts, perhaps. But why are we denying ourselves the option for the shafts majority of their male tour staff is playing (non stock ping iron shafts)

> >

> > I think it’s just that last little missing detail in an otherwise flawless iron release from an elite brand.

> >

> > We demanded a forged mb. Here we are...

> > Could list many things Ping has listened to the consumer on lately. And they are to be saluted for that!

> >

> > So! If we ask for the modus, dg and px lineup to be free or more reasonably priced. It’s legitimately an easy fix amongst the big moves they’ve made lately. Little details are all that’s left for Ping. This is one.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> I get it. If they opened up the shaft options completely they would probably move a ton of people from considering to between the blueprints and Cobra MB, TW new blade and so on. I guess to them it must not move the bottom line enough to warrant it.

 

DGS and DGX are free options. Just not DGR. May seem a bit odd, but guessing it's due to most regular flex folks preferring other than DG?

 

2nd Swing quoting $7.50 per club for DGR.

 

KBS Tours are also free option, FWIW

[braincramp52]

> @towncryer said:

> Banging on PING for not offering a bunch of different shafts for free is understandable. However, I'm going to step out on a limb and defend them a little. I know this is bordering on heresy on WRX, but shaft tinkering is just not that important for most golfers . Sorry. It's not. The club head shape/design has WAY more impact than shaft. If you're playing the right head, the shaft just really serves as a fine focus...a little spin, a little launch...but a LOT of personal preference.

>

> Now...I know I'm on WRX with a bunch of tour-quality ball strikers who simply must dial in their spin into a 50 rpm tolerance and their TRAJ to a .5 degree tolerance...I get that. But the overwhelming majority of all golfers will fit perfectly into stock shafts from PING. It doesn't make sense for them to offer expensive shafts for everyone to satisfy the minority of players who "need" them. They're a smart company, and they know what they're doing from a financial standpoint and an engineering standpoint. They pioneered custom fitting before any of the companies who offer all shafts for free.

> If this post gets me banned from WRX, I just want to say how much fun I've had while my time lasted here.

 

Heck of a good post!

[towncryer]

> @NRJyzr said:

> > @OrangeGravy said:

> > > @BearQ said:

> > > > @OrangeGravy said:

> > > > > @BearQ said:

> > > > > Ping is lagging behind in the shaft charge department. Always has been. My curiosity is with how smaller brands offer truly exotic upgrades for free or small fees. Yet Ping can’t give you even the modus lineup as a free option. It is pretty disappointing. But the only current gripe I have with an otherwise top notch brand

> > > >

> > > > Someone may have already mentioned, but those smaller brands often times offer the "exotic" shafts for free or smaller fees because they're trying to capture market share. They are trying to make up for a lower consumer perception by sweetening the pot in hopes that they'll grab some more sales than they otherwise would. Ping, Mizuno, Titleist, TM, etc...have enough ca-shay that they don't need to do that to hit sales numbers. Of course if they did, they would possibly steal some sales away from their competitors.

> > >

> > > Yeah I get the concept man. You’re confirming the smaller brands are working harder, losing profit and offering more options. I’m saying ping has released a perfect mb option. Offer relative shaft lines like the modus and dg lineup as free upgrades. You’re already making plenty on the iron.

> > >

> > > As far as the thought that amateurs should fit into the quality ping shafts, perhaps. But why are we denying ourselves the option for the shafts majority of their male tour staff is playing (non stock ping iron shafts)

> > >

> > > I think it’s just that last little missing detail in an otherwise flawless iron release from an elite brand.

> > >

> > > We demanded a forged mb. Here we are...

> > > Could list many things Ping has listened to the consumer on lately. And they are to be saluted for that!

> > >

> > > So! If we ask for the modus, dg and px lineup to be free or more reasonably priced. It’s legitimately an easy fix amongst the big moves they’ve made lately. Little details are all that’s left for Ping. This is one.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I get it. If they opened up the shaft options completely they would probably move a ton of people from considering to between the blueprints and Cobra MB, TW new blade and so on. I guess to them it must not move the bottom line enough to warrant it.

>

> DGS and DGX are free options. Just not DGR. May seem a bit odd, but guessing it's due to most regular flex folks preferring other than DG?

>

> 2nd Swing quoting $7.50 per club for DGR.

>

> KBS Tours are also free option, FWIW

 

Wow...DG R300 is not an upcharge through PING...it even lists it on PING's website as a stock option. 2nd Swing is charging for it, not PING. I just went to their website and looked for myself, and there are several shaft options that they're charging for that they shouldn't be (S200/S400 for example).

 

Very interesting.

 

 

> @BearQ said:

> As far as the thought that amateurs should fit into the quality ping shafts, perhaps. But why are we denying ourselves the option for the shafts majority of their male tour staff is playing (non stock ping iron shafts)

>

I'm not saying most amateur golfers fit into actual PING shafts...I'm saying most amateurs will fit into a shaft PING offers at no upcharge. If you look at their offerings, they have a great range for low launch, low spin to high launch higher spin. AWT is just one option. There are a lot of tour pros using Dynamic Gold...they just use the tighter-tolerance weight sorted Tour Issue (waste of money just to get the cooler shaft label, IMO). There are players playing DG 120, PX LZ, etc...

 

[NRJyzr]

> @towncryer said:

 

>

> Wow...DG R300 is not an upcharge through PING...it even lists it on PING's website as a stock option. 2nd Swing is charging for it, not PING. I just went to their website and looked for myself, and there are several shaft options that they're charging for that they shouldn't be (S200/S400 for example).

>

>

 

 

I think it may show the variability of options for various providers?

[bladehunter]

> @bambam said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @Mikey5e said:

> > > Where's the offset gone from these irons?

> >

> >

> > Gone. Like the good lord intended.

>

> .14” on a 3 iron is still quite a bit. I’ve stayed away from Titleist blades after the 681 because the offset standard went to .125”, which is also quite a lot, even when loft is increased.

>

> However, this is definitely a refreshing club from Ping.

 

I definitely hear you on the offset. For comparison no matter the measure. These look much much less than say a titleist 690 when comparing 3 iron to 3 iron. 690 looks like a lot of offset 3-5 iron to my eye. The blueprints look like nearly zero.

[TLUBulldogGolf]

> @OrangeGravy said:

> > @BearQ said:

> > Ping is lagging behind in the shaft charge department. Always has been. My curiosity is with how smaller brands offer truly exotic upgrades for free or small fees. Yet Ping can’t give you even the modus lineup as a free option. It is pretty disappointing. But the only current gripe I have with an otherwise top notch brand

>

> Someone may have already mentioned, but those smaller brands often times offer the "exotic" shafts for free or smaller fees because they're trying to capture market share. They are trying to make up for a lower consumer perception by sweetening the pot in hopes that they'll grab some more sales than they otherwise would. Ping, Mizuno, Titleist, TM, etc...have enough ca-shay that they don't need to do that to hit sales numbers. Of course if they did, they would possibly steal some sales away from their competitors.

 

But Mizuno doesn't charge for basically any steel shaft they offer. When you are talking $20/club on top of clubs that are already around $500 more for a set, that is not insignificant. I get that its a premium iron and it probably doesn't affect sales that much for people that are seriously considering them, but it would be nice to get a Project X, which is a pretty common steel shaft for better players and has been for a while, for no/minimal charge. They offer the LZ which costs basically the same aftermarket for no charge, so what gives.

[Drudersh]

 

[QuigleyDU]

> @NRJyzr said:

> > @towncryer said:

>

> >

> > Wow...DG R300 is not an upcharge through PING...it even lists it on PING's website as a stock option. 2nd Swing is charging for it, not PING. I just went to their website and looked for myself, and there are several shaft options that they're charging for that they shouldn't be (S200/S400 for example).

> >

> >

>

>

> I think it may show the variability of options for various providers?

 

The funny thing is they up charge their own shafts... haha.

[outgolfing]

Went into golf galaxy today with the intent to buy these. Brought my P7TW pw and 7 iron with me. I started with the TW pw first and hit three good shots all within a flagstick of each other. I thought, great not gonna beat that. I proceeded to do the same thing with the blueprint pw only about 5-7 yards further. Really liked the feel of the blueprints and I was already warming up the Amex card. Moved to the TW 7 iron and put 5 respectable shots out that in worst case scenario would have left me just off a green on two of them. Stood over the blueprint 7i and was ready to repeat the magic of the pw results...only they never came. I proceeded to hit about 20 shots with the blueprint 7i and maybe 3/20 were to my standards of how I know I can strike the ball. Thinking I was just getting tired as I played 18 holes in 92 degree heat the day before and tore out flooring at home in the afternoon i went back to my TW 7i. Proceeded to strike the next five swings well and get the results I wanted.

 

I was very bummed as I love ping and have never owned a set of Taylormade irons before these P7’s. I’m not sure where it went wrong, maybe shaft? The Blueprints had the demo s300 dynamic golds and my P7’s I have modus 125’s. Both were S flex. I’ll be sticking with my P7’s but I’ll still be secretly jealous of you blueprint guys. Enjoy!

[cardoustie]

Well I hit the 8 iron at lunch. Very very impressed. These things are not as tiny as I was led to believe (not much smaller than iblades or s55's, I think the thinner top line could be throwing off optics to a lot of folks)

They were def. short and light .... but felt fantastic off the face

Will order my usual orange dot and heavy & longer config. in 6-PW

[kekoa]

My buddy sent me this pic. Love the squared off toe.

 

[bladehunter]

> @cardoustie said:

> Well I hit the 8 iron at lunch. Very very impressed. These things are not as tiny as I was led to believe (not much smaller than iblades or s55's, I think the thinner top line could be throwing off optics to a lot of folks)

> They were def. short and light .... but felt fantastic off the face

> Will order my usual orange dot and heavy & longer config. in 6-PW

 

Yep. They don’t “ play small” at all. They aren’t super thin soles and aren’t super high Vcog. Plenty pleasant in the short irons to play. Perfect proportioned to the glide forged wedge.