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2 hours ago, dcl5dcl5 said:

 

Thanks for posting this - I am coming from the Z765 irons, as well, and thinking of trying the Sub70s. Did you think the 639s would be similar to what you were used to - what got you to the 699 Pros? Did they feel easier/harder to hit from a forgiveness standpoint than the Z765s. I love how soft the forging is on the Z765s - was this forging similar - I know you mentioned it firing off the ball quicker, but did it not feel as soft?

 

I went with the 699 pro's as I've had to make a drastic swing change due to an injury - I've had to shorten my backswing and cut my follow through short as I can no longer rotate fully either way after a laceration on my abdomen - and although the z765's were still fine, I was starting to feel the weight of the shafts (modus 120) towards the end of a round. I wanted to try drastically lighter shafts so went with the KBS Tour 90 and thought while I was there, I'd go for a more forgiving head. The gamble has paid off, and I really like them. They don't feel as soft, no, but to be honest I'm not overly sensitive when it comes to that. There's plenty of feel when you don't middle the 699 pro's, and to me, that difference between hitting and missing the sweet spot is more important than the softness👍

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24 minutes ago, JaySub70 said:

 

The DT-4 steel is really soft. At the same time they hold their lofts/lies really well. We've heard from a ton of people that took their clubs in to a local shop to get their lofts/lies checked and even after 100+ rounds they were still spot on. You could always demo the CBs, MBs or TAIIIs to get a feel for them. If you have any questions just let us know. Thanks!

Jay, which steel is more likely to resist moving through use: the 1020 or the DT-4? I am trying to decide between the JB and 286 wedges. Thanks.

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On 11/16/2021 at 12:31 AM, dcl5dcl5 said:

 

Thanks for posting this - I am coming from the Z765 irons, as well, and thinking of trying the Sub70s. Did you think the 639s would be similar to what you were used to - what got you to the 699 Pros? Did they feel easier/harder to hit from a forgiveness standpoint than the Z765s. I love how soft the forging is on the Z765s - was this forging similar - I know you mentioned it firing off the ball quicker, but did it not feel as soft?

I haven't hit the 699, but i got a set of the 639cb black at the end of september.  I was coming from a split set of srixon 765/965 (6-7 765, 8-pw 965) and debated on going split again or straight cb.  Decided with the cb mainly because who doesn't want a little extra forgiveness.  I haven't had a problem with flighting the ball or moving it in either direction.  In my opinion the 639 feel better to me than the srixons on well struck shots.  I went with taper tip heads and KBS 120S just like my srixon, had the 639 lofts weakened 1* to better match the lofts i was playing and I am a half a club longer with the 639 with a slightly higher ball flight.  Love em so far, unfortuantely i probably am done playing due to weather until next april.

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Titleist TSi2 13.5 Tensei AV Blue 75X

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Sub 70 639 MB Black 9-PW KBS 120S
Sub 70 JB Black 48 KBS Tour S
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4 hours ago, kruege said:

I haven't hit the 699, but i got a set of the 639cb black at the end of september.  I was coming from a split set of srixon 765/965 (6-7 765, 8-pw 965) and debated on going split again or straight cb.  Decided with the cb mainly because who doesn't want a little extra forgiveness.  I haven't had a problem with flighting the ball or moving it in either direction.  In my opinion the 639 feel better to me than the srixons on well struck shots.  I went with taper tip heads and KBS 120S just like my srixon, had the 639 lofts weakened 1* to better match the lofts i was playing and I am a half a club longer with the 639 with a slightly higher ball flight.  Love em so far, unfortuantely i probably am done playing due to weather until next april.

Love to hear this yet I don’t as it means I’ll be saying “what if” to want these irons. 

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Putter: DF2.1 35"69* in blue

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699u Pro 4 iron and 699 pro irons arrived today…  I can’t speak highly enough about the customer service through this transaction.  I reached out about a quote for some graphite shafts, but decided to go with Modus 105’s with prosoft inserts installed.  I ordered the inserts and had them shipped directly to sub70.  They called me to let me know they had arrived and to go over the build again.   I can’t wait to get these out on the course but swinging inside they feel built to spec ( 2 flat D2 swing weight)…. And you can’t beat the personal touch of the hand written thank you note and free hat… THANK YOU Sub70!   Keep up the great customer service and communication and the success will continue.. 

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Rogue ST LS 3HL Ventus Blue 7

Epic Super Hybrid 20* Ventus HB 8

Srixon ZX MKII Utility 23* Recoil Dart 90

Srixon ZX5 5-6 Steelfiber i95

Srixon ZX7 7-AW Steelfiber i95

Edel SMS 56* V Grind Steelfiber i95

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4 minutes ago, chamgel2 said:

699u Pro 4 iron and 699 pro irons arrived today…  I can’t speak highly enough about the customer service through this transaction.  I reached out about a quote for some graphite shafts, but decided to go with Modus 105’s with prosoft inserts installed.  I ordered the inserts and has them shipped directly to sub70.  They called me to let me know they had arrived and to go over the build again.   I can’t wait to get these out on the course but swinging inside they feel built to spec ( 2 flat D2 swing weight)…. And you can’t beat the personal touch of the hand written thank you note and free hat… THANK YOU Sub70!   Keep up the great customer service and communication and the success will continue.. 

Cant wait to get mine! UPS is taking forever. 

 

You gotta post some pics! Im debating on grabbing a 699 Pro Utility

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COBRA DARKSPEED X 3HF 16.5° | HZRDUS BLACK 70X

PING G425 7W 20.5° | DIAMANA GT 70X

SRIXON ZX5 5-6 | MMT TAPER 105TX

SRIXON ZX7 7-PW | MMT TAPER 105TX

PING GLIDE 4.0 50°/54°/58° | MMT WEDGE 125TX

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1 minute ago, chamgel2 said:

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No problem.. there you go.  It blends really well with the 5 iron.  I had them set the loft at 21* to keep a 3* gap… if you want any other angles let me know.. I’ll post a review of it and the irons once I’m able to get them on the course..

 

Beauties! My 699 Pro's should be here this week but I wont be in town so eager to hear your findings! Can't wait to hit mine

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COBRA DARKSPEED X 3HF 16.5° | HZRDUS BLACK 70X

PING G425 7W 20.5° | DIAMANA GT 70X

SRIXON ZX5 5-6 | MMT TAPER 105TX

SRIXON ZX7 7-PW | MMT TAPER 105TX

PING GLIDE 4.0 50°/54°/58° | MMT WEDGE 125TX

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15 hours ago, chamgel2 said:

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No problem.. there you go.  It blends really well with the 5 iron.  I had them set the loft at 21* to keep a 3* gap… if you want any other angles let me know.. I’ll post a review of it and the irons once I’m able to get them on the course..

Which shaft you have in the 4 utility?

 

I'm debating trying the 4U and keeping it the same shaft as my 5 iron (MODUS 120) for consistency.  I actually hit my sub 70 4 hybrid a tad too far compared to my 5 iron and thinking about closing the gap.   

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Cobra FLY Z+ 3 wood, orange, aldila tour blue stiff, 14.5*
Sub 70 939x, 3H(18*), Proforce V2 85 stiff
Sub 70 939x, 4H(21*), Proforce V2 85 stiff
Sub 70 699 Pros, 5-AW, Modus 120 stiff
PING glide 2.0, 54*

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Scotty Select Newport, 73* lie, 1* loft, 34" (Testing Taylormade Bandon 1)
Bridgestone Tour BX (Alternate ball VICE PRO)

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1 hour ago, bbfifas said:

Which shaft you have in the 4 utility?

 

I'm debating trying the 4U and keeping it the same shaft as my 5 iron (MODUS 120) for consistency.  I actually hit my sub 70 4 hybrid a tad too far compared to my 5 iron and thinking about closing the gap.   


I went with the Evenflow Riptide 85… have Modus 105 in my irons… 

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Rogue ST LS 3HL Ventus Blue 7

Epic Super Hybrid 20* Ventus HB 8

Srixon ZX MKII Utility 23* Recoil Dart 90

Srixon ZX5 5-6 Steelfiber i95

Srixon ZX7 7-AW Steelfiber i95

Edel SMS 56* V Grind Steelfiber i95

Vokey SM8 60* M grind Steelfiber i95
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Just now, TallGuy90 said:

How’s the stock on shafts , looking at KBS 90 or 105?

I originally was going to go with KBS 105 but after speaking with Jason ended up getting something comparable to what I am used to for the moment in the DG 105. 

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SRIXON ZX5 5-6 | MMT TAPER 105TX

SRIXON ZX7 7-PW | MMT TAPER 105TX

PING GLIDE 4.0 50°/54°/58° | MMT WEDGE 125TX

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Just now, agood3putt said:

I originally was going to go with KBS 105 but after speaking with Jason ended up getting something comparable to what I am used to for the moment in the DG 105. 

Funny , I tried that route before my distance was way down. I felt they were playing a little to stiff. Did you switch flex’s.?

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1 minute ago, TallGuy90 said:

Funny , I tried that route before my distance was way down. I felt they were playing a little to stiff. Did you switch flex’s.?

Nope stayed with stiff. I previously played Modus 105 stiff and the DG plays similar in terms of flight and spin. Its also the stock shaft in P790's so I was familiar with the feel

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PING G425 7W 20.5° | DIAMANA GT 70X

SRIXON ZX5 5-6 | MMT TAPER 105TX

SRIXON ZX7 7-PW | MMT TAPER 105TX

PING GLIDE 4.0 50°/54°/58° | MMT WEDGE 125TX

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3 hours ago, JaySub70 said:

 

Looks like there are plenty of 90s but only regular flex in the 105

Good to know. The 699 pro black, are they forge? new to SUB70.. playing PXG g3n1 0311 right now...looking to replace them with my specs.

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6 minutes ago, PoeKingShankspeare said:

same here...

 

These 699 pros black... are they not forge?

They are cast

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PING G425 7W 20.5° | DIAMANA GT 70X

SRIXON ZX5 5-6 | MMT TAPER 105TX

SRIXON ZX7 7-PW | MMT TAPER 105TX

PING GLIDE 4.0 50°/54°/58° | MMT WEDGE 125TX

ODYSSEY TRI-HOT 5K SEVEN DB

SRIXON Z-STAR DIAMOND 

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12 minutes ago, roverdog99 said:

Received the 699 Pros this week.   Love them.  One issue.  Had them on launch monitor and the 6 and 7 iron are showing exact distances.  Anyone have issues with lofts being incorrect?


Have you had the lofts checked? May or may not be the cause. Also if you are on a launch monitor, check your dynamic loft on the shots, which is the loft that matters. 
 

Mid-irons going the same distance also can be a swing issue if you are adding loft at impact. Shots end up with high ballooning apexes but lose distance. Been there, done that, with the 5,6 and 7 irons. 

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Just waiting on the Cyber Monday deal to pull the trigger on a set of 699 Pro Satin 5-AW.

 

I'd already had my heart set on them but hearing the feedback from other users here just makes the anticipation that much greater!

 

Anyone have experience buying used off the site?  I'm looking at a few used Utility irons but I'd love to be able to have them swap grips to match the set I've already got in the cart.

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14 hours ago, DHoch said:

If not, if anyone has bought one, can you give some feedback on it?

 

I have the 949X 4 wood, and really like it. I haven't had any range time with it yet, and only hit it a few times in the 3 rounds I played, but have found it very easy to hit, and really nice ball flight.

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Just put in an order for a Pre-Owned "New Condition" 939x 4h with HZRDUS Smoke Black 80 with the discount for $87. Can't beat it price wise cant wait for it to arrive!

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PING G425 7W 20.5° | DIAMANA GT 70X

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SRIXON ZX7 7-PW | MMT TAPER 105TX

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6 minutes ago, agood3putt said:

Just put in an order for a Pre-Owned "New Condition" 939x 4h with HZRDUS Smoke Black 80 with the discount for $87. Can't beat it price wise cant wait for it to arrive!

 

I ordered a set of pre-owned 639 cb this morning. Excited to try them out.

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