Unpopular Equipment Opinions

[drumdude96]

On 2/17/2022 at 2:45 PM, naws-golfer said:

I think I'd rather get paired with 3 80yr old women, than one of those guys.

I'd probably throw up after 2 or 3 holes from the disgusting sound of their iron shots. Those guys couldn't find the middle of the face if their lives depended on it.

[eric61]

4 hours ago, karstens_ghost said:

Here's one… I won't play AD DI shafts because of their paint. They're obnoxious and distracting.

Oh man, I LOVE their paint. It’s a reason I’ll play them. Hate the black-and-white version of the AD DI, because what’s the point?

Edited February 19, 2022 by eric61

[karstens_ghost]

4 hours ago, R.Patrick said:

Even the black ones?

 

They have normal ones?

[Yoshifan151]

35 minutes ago, karstens_ghost said:

 

They have normal ones?

 

Yeah, you've never seen these before?

 

[BagofToast]

10 hours ago, Yoshifan151 said:

 

Yeah, you've never seen these before?

 

Adam Scott plays those in all his woods now too. Had the orange one in his 7 wood before he switched 

[akronswitness]

The pure comedy coming from this music on a golf course discussion is gold.

 

It reminds me of the scene in Caddyshack where the caddies are allowed to use the pool and the old lady is running around screaming at everybody about the rules while they ignore everything she is saying.

 

Also, everything progresses in time. Just because technology wasnt advanced enough 50+ years ago when all music was created with live instruments and vocals--doesnt make it better to all those arguing otherwise. You dont think if Pink Floyd had access to Pro Tools 50 years ago they wouldn't have been using it to create different and better sounds for their music? Cmon. 

 

The #1 example for this is Linkin Park, who have sold over 100M albums and are one of the greatest selling rock/metal bands of all time. The main reason they were popular was because of their fusion of electronics combined with traditional instruments. They used a ton of synthesized sounds/vocals and they made better rock music than 90% of bands in music history

 

Kick rocks with all of the 'anything that wasnt made with traditional guitars, vocals and drums isnt music' crap.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 19, 2022 by akronswitness

[jeff1727]

Forgiveness in irons is overrated and over exaggerated.  Strike is King. 

Edited February 20, 2022 by jeff1727
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[karstens_ghost]

On 2/19/2022 at 6:59 PM, Yoshifan151 said:

 

Yeah, you've never seen these before?

 

 

Nope. I guess I hadn't noticed because all the others are obnoxious. 🙂

 

 

[Straphael]

On 2/19/2022 at 8:19 PM, jeff1727 said:

Forgiveness in irons is overrated and over exaggerated.  Strike is King. 

The people who want their games fixed with forgiving clubs are the same ones who want a weight loss program involving beer and nachos. Both sound good but you’re looking in the wrong place. 
 

Going to go snobbish with this but unless you’re a scratch or better ball striker I don’t want your opinion or reviews of anything. You don’t make consistent contact for there to be anything close to usable equipment data 

[drumdude96]

On 2/19/2022 at 4:54 PM, akronswitness said:

The pure comedy coming from this music on a golf course discussion is gold.

 

It reminds me of the scene in Caddyshack where the caddies are allowed to use the pool and the old lady is running around screaming at everybody about the rules while they ignore everything she is saying.

 

Also, everything progresses in time. Just because technology wasnt advanced enough 50+ years ago when all music was created with live instruments and vocals--doesnt make it better to all those arguing otherwise. You dont think if Pink Floyd had access to Pro Tools 50 years ago they wouldn't have been using it to create different and better sounds for their music? Cmon. 

 

The #1 example for this is Linkin Park, who have sold over 100M albums and are one of the greatest selling rock/metal bands of all time. The main reason they were popular was because of their fusion of electronics combined with traditional instruments. They used a ton of synthesized sounds/vocals and they made better rock music than 90% of bands in music history

 

Kick rocks with all of the 'anything that wasnt made with traditional guitars, vocals and drums isnt music' crap.

 

 

 

 

Lincoln Park was a band of actual musicians who had lots of talent.  They played their instruments.  Whether that was a synth, or a guitar, or whatever, they still played them.  A person who arranges samples together on a computer is NOT a musician, and I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, a computer is NOT a musical instrument when used in that manner.  Clicking and dragging is not playing an instrument.  And yes, had today's recording tech been around 50 years ago, many of our heroes would have used it.  But they wouldn't have needed it to fix their parts, because they got good takes in the first place. ProTools is a very convenient way to record, but far too many bands use it as a crutch because they can't play well enough to make a good track without editing the crap out of their parts.  ProTools has made today's music sound robotic and boring.  The nuances and imperfections heard in older recordings give the songs "life" that new music just doesn't have. 

[drumdude96]

On 2/18/2022 at 8:36 PM, drumdude96 said:

I'd probably throw up after 2 or 3 holes from the disgusting sound of their iron shots. Those guys couldn't find the middle of the face if their lives depended on it.

And after 2 months of not playing, I can't find the middle right now either, and I make myself want to puke!  Damn, golf is hard! 🤣

[LeftyMatt24]

On 2/18/2022 at 8:27 PM, tehuti said:

A $500 driver is not THAT much better than a $200 driver. 

A 800 driver is not that much better than a 200 driver. I agree the gains are marginal and if you look hard enough could find the shaft you need in a used head that would work the same as new. But as a golfwrxer it’s fun trying new stuff 

[Valtiel]

2 hours ago, drumdude96 said:

Lincoln Park was a band of actual musicians who had lots of talent.  They played their instruments.  Whether that was a synth, or a guitar, or whatever, they still played them.  A person who arranges samples together on a computer is NOT a musician, and I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, a computer is NOT a musical instrument when used in that manner.  Clicking and dragging is not playing an instrument.  And yes, had today's recording tech been around 50 years ago, many of our heroes would have used it.  But they wouldn't have needed it to fix their parts, because they got good takes in the first place. ProTools is a very convenient way to record, but far too many bands use it as a crutch because they can't play well enough to make a good track without editing the crap out of their parts.  ProTools has made today's music sound robotic and boring.  The nuances and imperfections heard in older recordings give the songs "life" that new music just doesn't have. 

As a musician/sound designer/recording engineer by trade, I get the overall sentiment, but it's throwing the baby out with the bath water for several reasons. At face value, you're basically saying that people who write/arrange music aren't musicians unless they can play the instruments, which invalidates centuries of composers who sat and wrote symphonies with ink and paper. Beethoven composing music on paper and someone arranging music via MIDI in whatever digital medium they have at their disposal is all the same skill set. And with the software and instrument libraries/instruments out our disposal, we can do everything Beethoven (or any other classical composer) did without needing an actual symphony at our disposal. Composing/arranging isn't done for you, those skills still need to exist. And Linkin Park was just as copy/pasted in modern DAWs like Pro Tools as any other modern cookie cutter music.  

[eric61]

This isn't a perfect fit for this thread, but I have an obnoxious opinion about something that relates to equipment so I'm sharing it here:

 

People who misspell Rogue, as in Callaway Rogue ST, drive me crazy. All over these forums, you see "Rouge" as much or more than "Rogue." 

 

Should I just ignore it, since there's no reason whatsoever that it should bother me? Yes, of course I should ignore it! It doesn't matter! Yet for whatever reason, it's become a huge pet peeve for me. It's something I can't imagine anybody else even cares about, so I figured it was probably unpopular.

[capking]

17 minutes ago, eric61 said:

This isn't a perfect fit for this thread, but I have an obnoxious opinion about something that relates to equipment so I'm sharing it here:

 

People who misspell Rogue, as in Callaway Rogue ST, drive me crazy. All over these forums, you see "Rouge" as much or more than "Rogue." 

 

Should I just ignore it, since there's no reason whatsoever that it should bother me? Yes, of course I should ignore it! It doesn't matter! Yet for whatever reason, it's become a huge pet peeve for me. It's something I can't imagine anybody else even cares about, so I figured it was probably unpopular.

If only the club was red.

[vtpachyderm]

Golf analytics/statistics are simply overkill in today's game. Everything has become all about the minutiae numbers - SG and launch monitor data and just make it more complicated (hence slower) than it should be. IMHO it's more than enough with the following : GIR, Total Putts, FIR, and penalty strokes to get a good overview of where your game is and where there's the most room for improvement regardless of what handicap you play to.

 

AND

 

Indoor launch monitor data off of mats is just complete bs for everything other than club head speed and swing info. We have an incredible indoor center here that has GCQuads on the range, and a bevy of Trackman simulators. Same day - ball flight numbers between the two are so different that I haven't got a clue as to what my ball will do once the winter is finally over and I'm hitting outside again.

[hellojude]

Drinking on the course. Can't play my best buzzed. 

[hellojude]

On 4/4/2021 at 3:22 PM, Chadwickog said:

You don’t need 58* or more to hit a flop shot effectively. 

Correct. Just open up your 56*.

[TheSphynx]

11 hours ago, eric61 said:

This isn't a perfect fit for this thread, but I have an obnoxious opinion about something that relates to equipment so I'm sharing it here:

 

People who misspell Rogue, as in Callaway Rogue ST, drive me crazy. All over these forums, you see "Rouge" as much or more than "Rogue." 

 

Should I just ignore it, since there's no reason whatsoever that it should bother me? Yes, of course I should ignore it! It doesn't matter! Yet for whatever reason, it's become a huge pet peeve for me. It's something I can't imagine anybody else even cares about, so I figured it was probably unpopular.

I feel the same way when I see Nike VR pro irons referred to as VR II Pro. It’s so stupid… those aren’t a capital i or Roman numerals. 😂

Edited March 2, 2022 by TheSphynx

[akronswitness]

18 hours ago, drumdude96 said:

Lincoln Park was a band of actual musicians who had lots of talent.  They played their instruments.  Whether that was a synth, or a guitar, or whatever, they still played them.  A person who arranges samples together on a computer is NOT a musician, and I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, a computer is NOT a musical instrument when used in that manner.  Clicking and dragging is not playing an instrument.  And yes, had today's recording tech been around 50 years ago, many of our heroes would have used it.  But they wouldn't have needed it to fix their parts, because they got good takes in the first place. ProTools is a very convenient way to record, but far too many bands use it as a crutch because they can't play well enough to make a good track without editing the crap out of their parts.  ProTools has made today's music sound robotic and boring.  The nuances and imperfections heard in older recordings give the songs "life" that new music just doesn't have. 

 

I agree with some of this, but not the whole picture. Not saying its better than actually playing instruments, but producing music even if its purely electronic based is still a required talent. So much so people go get 4 year art degrees to learn it. You also need to have a ear for the sound and understand music at its core with layers, tempo, rifts, ect. Its not like any person can go use Pro Tools right now and make a #1 hit song. It requires a helluva lot of talent, time and understanding of music to be able to produce/mix it using a software program.

 

Thats like saying DJing takes no skill because they are not actually playing the music they are just hitting buttons and using turntables. 

 

More than 1 way to skin a cat

Edited March 2, 2022 by akronswitness

[Is Golf Fun or Work]

Equipment can make you a better player.

[jsmcdon]

Never really a fan of Callaway but I'm really not a fan of Callaway.

[MikeW2]

16 hours ago, capking said:

If only the club was red.

I get the sarcasm here but it made me think of another likely unpopular opinion I have. I can’t stand the color red. It’s on so many clubs and bags and it just looks like 💩 to me.

[Theweekday]

On 3/1/2022 at 8:58 PM, drumdude96 said:

Lincoln Park was a band of actual musicians who had lots of talent.  They played their instruments.  Whether that was a synth, or a guitar, or whatever, they still played them.  A person who arranges samples together on a computer is NOT a musician, and I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, a computer is NOT a musical instrument when used in that manner.  Clicking and dragging is not playing an instrument.  And yes, had today's recording tech been around 50 years ago, many of our heroes would have used it.  But they wouldn't have needed it to fix their parts, because they got good takes in the first place. ProTools is a very convenient way to record, but far too many bands use it as a crutch because they can't play well enough to make a good track without editing the crap out of their parts.  ProTools has made today's music sound robotic and boring.  The nuances and imperfections heard in older recordings give the songs "life" that new music just doesn't have. 

What about dj Khalid then? 

[Chunkitgood]

Working a computer is a talent but not a musical talent.

 

Somewhere behind any listenable music is somebody with musical talent.

 

Of course, that person may now be dead and in any event probably won’t get any royalties, or Corky Laing would be as rich as Tiger Woods.

 

People who play music while golfing that other groups can hear are just inconsiderate and rude.  Being inconsiderate and rude they don’t care and mock those whose games they interfere with and think the norms of golf should be changed to suit people who wouldn’t be playing at all if not for Covid or maybe their inability to get a job for other reasons.

[courcy75]

Callaway equipment is too hard to line up. Everything from the 2 ball putter to their wedges with rounded leading edges. 

[Trippels]

On 3/3/2022 at 1:17 AM, MikeW2 said:

I get the sarcasm here but it made me think of another likely unpopular opinion I have. I can’t stand the color red. It’s on so many clubs and bags and it just looks like 💩 to me.

Are you a bull?

[MikeW2]

46 minutes ago, Trippels said:

Are you a bull?

Lol…no😂

[Chunkitgood]

 

On 3/2/2022 at 3:57 PM, Is Golf Fun or Work said:

Equipment can make you a better player.

Do you mean that if you play blades you’re more likely to learn to strike the ball properly?
 

My unpopular opinion is that golf is not about scoring, it is about hitting the ball well…scoring will follow.  Equipment that allows you to get good results from a poor swing will limit your ultimate satisfaction from the game, and the “better” your game gets with a poor swing (that is, you groove that swing) the less intermittent reinforcement you will get in the short term and the more frustrated you will get in the long term.

[ChipStrokes]

On 3/2/2022 at 2:20 AM, eric61 said:

This isn't a perfect fit for this thread, but I have an obnoxious opinion about something that relates to equipment so I'm sharing it here:

 

People who misspell Rogue, as in Callaway Rogue ST, drive me crazy. All over these forums, you see "Rouge" as much or more than "Rogue." 

 

Should I just ignore it, since there's no reason whatsoever that it should bother me? Yes, of course I should ignore it! It doesn't matter! Yet for whatever reason, it's become a huge pet peeve for me. It's something I can't imagine anybody else even cares about, so I figured it was probably unpopular.

“ventus with velacore”