Taylormade 2022 mb/mc replacement?

[tylernim]

33 minutes ago, BirdieBob said:

 

No...hosel weights.  They are callled bullet weights and TM uses them in all irons.  These fitting heads do not have those as the adapter must fit into the hosel and they do not use these heads for builds.

 

 

 

 

You're the man.  Thank you for clarifying.

[KC4441]

2 hours ago, Viper4225 said:

saw these last night, very surprised how close the new P7MC and P770 are in size, hardly noticeable.

Hmm..  makes me think I may go with the P7MC if the P770’s are hotter than the current model as reported.  

[realitycheck]

On 11/28/2022 at 9:00 PM, 055 said:

Not a fan of the shiny triangle on the 770.

Agreed!!  Man, this is disappointing

[johnnylongballz72]

17 hours ago, BirdieBob said:

 

Forget all this combo stuff....get the 770 or MC and if needed go with the 790 in the long end.

 

So what you're saying is..... "forget all this combo stuff" ....... but also go ahead and combo with the 790. Got it

[BirdieBob]

1 hour ago, johnnylongballz72 said:

So what you're saying is..... "forget all this combo stuff" ....... but also go ahead and combo with the 790. Got it

 

Like maybe one P790 in a 4 iron...hardly combo! 

[KC4441]

16 minutes ago, BirdieBob said:

 

Like maybe one P790 in a 4 iron...hardly combo! 

That’s how i do it.  Almost a second driving iron for me 

[Flush-It-Fore]

Going to be looking at the new Stealth Plus driver, Stealth Plus 3 & 5 wood, P790 4 Iron, P770 5-PW, MG3 50, MG3 TW 56 & 60.... I know that's being a bit of a brand snob but, you gotta admit that would be tasty 

[Shaqlemore]

hit the new irons today and Jesus Christ the p770s are hot. had 138 ball speed with a 7 iron vs the usual 130 I have with players irons. combo set with MCs are defo not gonna work.MBs are sweet. seems like they refined the head shape to go more in line with the p730s. 

Edited December 2, 2022 by Shaqlemore

[ScottHutch2]

6 hours ago, Shaqlemore said:

hit the new irons today and Jesus Christ the p770s are hot. had 138 ball speed with a 7 iron vs the usual 130 I have with players irons. combo set with MCs are defo not gonna work.MBs are sweet. seems like they refined the head shape to go more in line with the p730s. 

Came here to say the same thing. Even vs my current 770s, the ‘23 770s had about 300-400 less spin and more ball speed. Much more 790 like than previous version. I don’t think combo with MC would work from that aspect even if trying to bend weak. Feel much better about my current 770 set and may look into adding previous gen MCs in 8-PW. Staying away from ‘23 line. 

Edited December 2, 2022 by ScottHutch2

[Flush-It-Fore]

You could always have the new P770's bent 1 degree weak. I know that's not much but it should take off a few yards and raise the spin/launch... Could be a touch more playable then 

[gticlay]

I wish they would make a set of CB's out of the P7TW blades. Same shape, offset, launch characteristics (ex - the PW launches like the 49* P7TW blade does), milled sole.... but a simple cavity, maybe with a weight bar like the Miura 57 or 300 Forged had, if it is needed at all. Bead blast finish in the cavity and that classy TM logo like they put in the 2020 P7MC. 

Edited December 2, 2022 by gticlay

[slowroll]

1 hour ago, Flush-It-Fore said:

You could always have the new P770's bent 1 degree weak. I know that's not much but it should take off a few yards and raise the spin/launch... Could be a touch more playable then 

wih the 35 degree MC and the 770 giving more speed and less spin still going to be tough in the normal spot in the bag.  long or short end probably easier. 

[055]

4 hours ago, Shaqlemore said:

hit the new irons today and Jesus Christ the p770s are hot. had 138 ball speed with a 7 iron vs the usual 130 I have with players irons. combo set with MCs are defo not gonna work.MBs are sweet. seems like they refined the head shape to go more in line with the p730s. 

I have the 2021 770's and don't find them "hot" at all. I can't wait to compare to the new ones. Maybe for average players they aren't "hot".

[spinnywedge]

2 hours ago, 055 said:

I have the 2021 770's and don't find them "hot" at all. I can't wait to compare to the new ones. Maybe for average players they aren't "hot".

I had the first 770s and now have the current ones. They’re definitely “hotter” than the originals. They perform great, but they are a little “hot” for what I think most people want out of them. They’re more of a slimmed down 790 than a set to fill the 790 to MC gap.

[sniper]

For those that have hit and say the new 770’s are faster are the lofts the same?  
 

I didn’t know if the new 770’s might be intended to combo better with 790’s. 

[zap311]

Rory just posted this on Instagram of him hitting the new MBs and I have to say that they look MUCH nicer in this video than in any photos so far. I’ll be excited to see these in person. 

[ericft]

On 12/1/2022 at 1:33 PM, BirdieBob said:

 

No...hosel weights.  They are callled bullet weights and TM uses them in all irons.  These fitting heads do not have those as the adapter must fit into the hosel and they do not use these heads for builds.

 

 

 

@birdiebob any idea where I could get some of those bullet weights? I have a set of p750/770 heads that I might be building with graphite shafts..some of the heads have weights already but need some weights into other heads and don't know where to find them. Don't want to deal with graphite tip weights as I don't think they would even fit into the shafts..

[BirdieBob]

25 minutes ago, ericft said:

@birdiebob any idea where I could get some of those bullet weights? I have a set of p750/770 heads that I might be building with graphite shafts..some of the heads have weights already but need some weights into other heads and don't know where to find them. Don't want to deal with graphite tip weights as I don't think they would even fit into the shafts..

 

Not available via any retail outlets that I am aware of....pro builders that have heads only accounts with TM can get them.  But not likely they will be willing to sell them.

 

[ScottHutch2]

21 hours ago, sniper said:

For those that have hit and say the new 770’s are faster are the lofts the same?  
 

I didn’t know if the new 770’s might be intended to combo better with 790’s. 

Definitely seems they are aiming to combo with the 790 instead of the MC. I don’t know lofts of new 770 set for sure but I believe my fitter said it was same loft at the 7i as previous line. 

Edited December 3, 2022 by ScottHutch2

[kwainio]

Hit both the 770 and MC today. Didn't compare to the older gen but both heads seemed pretty much the same to me. 

 

770s looks good from address, indifferent about the back but I get why they want it to look similar to the 790. It felt jumpy and not particularly soft. Faster and lower spinning than my 223s for sure.

 

The MCs look really good. I thought the previous gen was maybe the best looking iron in its category. But just like the '21 version, the MC is slow and spinny. I don't see how these two combo at all.

 

I don't get TMs iron lineup. I know they sell an absolutely insane amount of 790s but I don't really know who the 770s are for. The 790 player who's concerned about looks? I guess? But really, at that point you might as well just be in the 790s and take the added forgiveness. The MCs look awesome but are pretty damn demanding for anyone who isn't a super ball striker with some serious speed. They still have a massive T100, ZX7, 223 hole in their lineup IMO.

Edited December 3, 2022 by kwainio

[KC4441]

So we know for sure 12/6 pre-order date?  

[ericft]

5 hours ago, BirdieBob said:

 

Not available via any retail outlets that I am aware of....pro builders that have heads only accounts with TM can get them.  But not likely they will be willing to sell them.

 

Bought these tonight from farm and home. Will see if they work size wise. 
 

Update … the only ones they physically fit are the lowest weight 5G and 6.5G ones. Others seem too wide in the upper portion to fit into the hosel hole. Also they are lead, so bigger for given weight as opposed to the tungsten ones TM uses. The tungsten worm plug in the pic is also too wide. 
 

Edited December 4, 2022 by ericft

[ARSM1932]

2 hours ago, kwainio said:

Hit both the 770 and MC today. Didn't compare to the older gen but both heads seemed pretty much the same to me. 

 

770s looks good from address, indifferent about the back but I get why they want it to look similar to the 790. It felt jumpy and not particularly soft. Faster and lower spinning than my 223s for sure.

 

The MCs look really good. I thought the previous gen was maybe the best looking iron in its category. But just like the '21 version, the MC is slow and spinny. I don't see how these two combo at all.

 

I don't get TMs iron lineup. I know they sell an absolutely insane amount of 790s but I don't really know who the 770s are for. The 790 player who's concerned about looks? I guess? But really, at that point you might as well just be in the 790s and take the added forgiveness. The MCs look awesome but are pretty damn demanding for anyone who isn't a super ball striker with some serious speed. They still have a massive T100, ZX7, 223 hole in their lineup IMO.

Thanks for the review of the new TaylorMade irons and I totally agree so it seems that I will be passing on the new P7MCs as well, I tested the 2021 model last year and found them to have minimal levels of forgiveness especially compared to the Titleist T100 and the Wilson Staff CB, you just have to look at who plays them on tour (JDay and Matt Wolff) to identify the target player for these irons as both those guys are elite ball strikers with loads of speed.

[slowroll]

5 hours ago, KC4441 said:

So we know for sure 12/6 pre-order date?  

yes

[GoGatorsChomp]

I’m glad I bought another set of P760’s for £300 (approx $370) recently having seen these releases. Head pro went to the Taylormade release event in our area and said everyone left feeling very underwhelmed with the irons but intrigued with the driver/woods. He said the P770 is effectively a slightly smaller P790 now, he doesn’t see why anyone would buy it when you get the same club (similar launch, distance and spin conditions) with extra help in the P790. MC meant to have more toe help but he doesn’t see it performing any different. Loved the look of the MB but it’s for the top 0.5% of player if that. He won’t be ordering any irons stock for the shelves and will be doing custom orders only on them after fittings. 

[bvanlieu]

I gamed the OG 770s and the new 770s are certainly for blokes like me. I can game a full set of 790s but they are a bit chunky to look at and 8-W I don't want that if I have a preference. I could game a full set of the current 770s, but I don't mind a bit more help on the > 160y shots hence I experimented with the 790s a few years ago at the top and it stuck. In classic WRX fashion I hem and haw about should I have just done the 770s strait up and I look at every BST listing for heads 🙂 

 

Now if the new 770s spin 300 less as is, I think that helps with the blend as I personally see a bit of a gap where I blend the 770 and 21 790 at the 7-8 iron today. I have bent the 790s weak to nearly match the 770's loft progression which I prefer vs. strong lofts of modern player distance type irons, and bending the 8i 1d strong would add back a bit of spin. 

 

I gather as a percentage of sets *sold* they don't blend nearly as many sets as they sell complete sets so WRX'ers are the outliers. Blending MB/MC may be a bit more common but those are also very low volume sales sets as well. 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2022 by bvanlieu

[BirdieBob]

10 hours ago, slowroll said:

yes

 

Then if Tuesday, we can expect to see all the YouTube videos on these new irons.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

18 hours ago, kwainio said:

Hit both the 770 and MC today. Didn't compare to the older gen but both heads seemed pretty much the same to me. 

 

770s looks good from address, indifferent about the back but I get why they want it to look similar to the 790. It felt jumpy and not particularly soft. Faster and lower spinning than my 223s for sure.

 

The MCs look really good. I thought the previous gen was maybe the best looking iron in its category. But just like the '21 version, the MC is slow and spinny. I don't see how these two combo at all.

 

I don't get TMs iron lineup. I know they sell an absolutely insane amount of 790s but I don't really know who the 770s are for. The 790 player who's concerned about looks? I guess? But really, at that point you might as well just be in the 790s and take the added forgiveness. The MCs look awesome but are pretty damn demanding for anyone who isn't a super ball striker with some serious speed. They still have a massive T100, ZX7, 223 hole in their lineup IMO.

I definitely didn’t find the 21’ 7MC to be spinny or slow. I just found them extremely penal for the category that they’re in, and saw no difference vs 7MB in forgiveness.

1.1 cap, and ball striking is a better part of my game fwiw, but I find the T100 21’ to be incrementally more forgiving 

[kwainio]

1 hour ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

I definitely didn’t find the 21’ 7MC to be spinny or slow. I just found them extremely penal for the category that they’re in, and saw no difference vs 7MB in forgiveness.

1.1 cap, and ball striking is a better part of my game fwiw, but I find the T100 21’ to be incrementally more forgiving 

 

Yeah I dunno, I hover around a 2 cap, decent enough iron player, but I for sure found the T100 and TCB to be more forgiving and have more pop than the MCs. I know the 223s and MCs aren't a true apples to apples comparison, different loft and head construction, but I had a tough time getting the MC 7 iron over 120bs and was spinning them around 6800 off a mat. Back to my 223s and I cruised at 128 and 6300. MCs just feel incredibly niche to me.

[Morry]

23 hours ago, kwainio said:

Hit both the 770 and MC today. Didn't compare to the older gen but both heads seemed pretty much the same to me. 

 

770s looks good from address, indifferent about the back but I get why they want it to look similar to the 790. It felt jumpy and not particularly soft. Faster and lower spinning than my 223s for sure.

 

The MCs look really good. I thought the previous gen was maybe the best looking iron in its category. But just like the '21 version, the MC is slow and spinny. I don't see how these two combo at all.

 

I don't get TMs iron lineup. I know they sell an absolutely insane amount of 790s but I don't really know who the 770s are for. The 790 player who's concerned about looks? I guess? But really, at that point you might as well just be in the 790s and take the added forgiveness. The MCs look awesome but are pretty damn demanding for anyone who isn't a super ball striker with some serious speed. They still have a massive T100, ZX7, 223 hole in their lineup IMO.

SO Well Said

 

the 770's are for possible long iron blending into a 760 set that no longer exists 

other than that, no use I can see 

 

fingers crossed, but fear a real miss tomorrow 

we'll see.....