GC asks "Is Jordan Spieth done?"

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  • BarfolomewBarfolomew #worstWRXer Members Posts: 1,244 ✭✭
    Here this....... Once Jordy get his mental game in order he will be a monster again. It will also make him a deadly putter again... I fervently believe no one around him can fix his mental game but there is definitely a brain out there that can help him fix his.... I'd be willing to help him get his confidence back but I aint got his number
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  • WidespreadPanicWidespreadPanic Wizard in the Corner Members Posts: 4,826 ✭✭
    Morning Drive is a joke, so I won’t take the question TOO seriously, but to even ask that is outrageous. His Masters performances speak for themselves, won the Open in ‘17, and was in the final group in ‘18. MD loses credibility by the day.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,835 ✭✭
    edited Jan 3, 2019 4:15pm #64
    gvogel wrote:


    He could have won the Masters last year, except he hit a terrible tee shot on 18. Which speaks to the fact that he hits some terrible tee shots for a major champion.



    Let's say that the practice area at Royal Birkdale was out of bounds (which it most certainly will be the next time that Birkdale holds the tournament). If he can't take the drop over in the practice area, and has to play from 2 club lengths, or go back and re-tee, I don't think he wins - and Kuchar doesn't lose momentum.



    He may be a good iron player, but his driving is suspect; hence my low expectation of more majors.




    Oh come now. We can “what if OB were here “ , anyone into defeat.
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  • FergusonFerguson Members Posts: 4,679 ✭✭
    Barfolomew wrote:


    Here this....... Once Jordy get his mental game in order he will be a monster again. It will also make him a deadly putter again... I fervently believe no one around him can fix his mental game but there is definitely a brain out there that can help him fix his.... I'd be willing to help him get his confidence back but I aint got his number






    I think he thought his putting could get better and so he made some changes - big mistake. When he was putting well, he looked relaxed and without restriction. In other words, he putted and played like a kid.
  • fairways4lifefairways4life Members Posts: 1,553 ✭✭
    I think there are plenty of other players that could be potentially be done winning majors before Jordan Spieth's name comes up.





    DJ = 34 years old, 1 top 5 in a major (out of 7) since his lone win. For a guy that overpowers the game like he does (and consistently wins regular tour events) it's a bit of a head scratcher that he only has one major.



    Jason Day = 31 years old, 1 top 5 (out of 12) since his lone win. Seemingly always sick or injured.



    Bubba = 40 years old, missed the cut in 6 of his last 7 majors. (Still always feels like a threat at Augusta though)



    Phil = Not a stretch to say that he's done.



    Rory = Very erratic results. Looked like he might be on his way to 10 majors at one point but just totally stalled out.



    I wouldn't hit the panic button on Spieth anytime soon.
  • BarfolomewBarfolomew #worstWRXer Members Posts: 1,244 ✭✭
    Ferguson wrote:

    Barfolomew wrote:


    Here this....... Once Jordy get his mental game in order he will be a monster again. It will also make him a deadly putter again... I fervently believe no one around him can fix his mental game but there is definitely a brain out there that can help him fix his.... I'd be willing to help him get his confidence back but I aint got his number






    I think he thought his putting could get better and so he made some changes - big mistake. When he was putting well, he looked relaxed and without restriction. In other words, he putted and played like a kid.




    He used to look great and all that muttering to himself looked cute and an announcers dream but it took a wrong turn and went down the wrong rabbit hole....



    The mind's wisdom is a double edged sword and it can swing back at yourself to cut your own head off but if you learn the right attitude to handle your own self judgement then you'll also be able to temper the worlds judgement much more easily... then you'll be king of the castle and hitting a little ball in a hole gets easy
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  • Matt JMatt J Members Posts: 8,717 ✭✭
    Jordan Spieth will be competing for Majors when everyone on TGC is an after thought. Is TGC done is a better debate topic.
  • MitchellGolfingMitchellGolfing Members Posts: 1,306 ✭✭
    Spieth isn’t anywhere close to done. He’s a few good putting rounds away from being in contention any week.
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  • lowheellowheel LOWHEEL Members Posts: 6,140 ✭✭
    ebrasmus21 wrote:


    I think he is no longer YJS.



    He's just Jordan Spieth now.




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  • ebrasmus21ebrasmus21 Serial Shanker CAMembers Posts: 5,328 ✭✭
    lowheel wrote:

    ebrasmus21 wrote:


    I think he is no longer YJS.



    He's just Jordan Spieth now.




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  • GuiaGuia Members Posts: 8,693 ✭✭
    Obviously, has lost focus and confidence. I have no idea what lies ahead for him, Majors are very hard to win but he might win another. As far as getting 30 wins, I doubt it, the tour is very deep. I would think that 20 - 25 wins would be a great career (always has been actually). Going over 30 wins will be achieved by very few, 80+ will take a Superman.
  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Masters! ClubWRX Posts: 17,695 ClubWRX
    gvogel wrote:


    He could have won the Masters last year, except he hit a terrible tee shot on 18. Which speaks to the fact that he hits some terrible tee shots for a major champion.



    Let's say that the practice area at Royal Birkdale was out of bounds (which it most certainly will be the next time that Birkdale holds the tournament). If he can't take the drop over in the practice area, and has to play from 2 club lengths, or go back and re-tee, I don't think he wins - and Kuchar doesn't lose momentum.



    He may be a good iron player, but his driving is suspect; hence my low expectation of more majors.




    What if Jack ate a bad hot dog before the final round in '86 and had to WD?



    Oh, that would be a silly thing to even discuss.
  • straightshot7straightshot7 Members Posts: 2,984 ✭✭
    Hawkeye77 wrote:

    gvogel wrote:


    He could have won the Masters last year, except he hit a terrible tee shot on 18. Which speaks to the fact that he hits some terrible tee shots for a major champion.



    Let's say that the practice area at Royal Birkdale was out of bounds (which it most certainly will be the next time that Birkdale holds the tournament). If he can't take the drop over in the practice area, and has to play from 2 club lengths, or go back and re-tee, I don't think he wins - and Kuchar doesn't lose momentum.



    He may be a good iron player, but his driving is suspect; hence my low expectation of more majors.




    What if Jack ate a bad hot dog before the final round in '86 and had to WD?



    Oh, that would be a silly thing to even discuss.




    Jack DID eat a bad hot dog before the final round in '86. He was able to experience a "full release" at the turn, which led to the 30 on the back nine.



    He later said that he felt noticeably lighter and swung more freely, without any fear of sharting in his pants.
  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Masters! ClubWRX Posts: 17,695 ClubWRX

    Hawkeye77 wrote:

    gvogel wrote:


    He could have won the Masters last year, except he hit a terrible tee shot on 18. Which speaks to the fact that he hits some terrible tee shots for a major champion.



    Let's say that the practice area at Royal Birkdale was out of bounds (which it most certainly will be the next time that Birkdale holds the tournament). If he can't take the drop over in the practice area, and has to play from 2 club lengths, or go back and re-tee, I don't think he wins - and Kuchar doesn't lose momentum.



    He may be a good iron player, but his driving is suspect; hence my low expectation of more majors.




    What if Jack ate a bad hot dog before the final round in '86 and had to WD?



    Oh, that would be a silly thing to even discuss.




    Jack DID eat a bad hot dog before the final round in '86. He was able to experience a "full release" at the turn, which led to the 30 on the back nine.



    He later said that he felt noticeably lighter and swung more freely, without any fear of sharting in his pants.




    LOL, shouldn't have used Jack because no matter what the answer would be he still wins!
  • GolfjackGolfjack All about the rotation Members Posts: 996 ✭✭
    Just another one of the hot young guns who caught fire and did great things for a year. It's pretty hard to get back to that level. For post Tiger examples, just see exhibit A Rory Mcilroy.
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    Hawkeye77 wrote:

    gvogel wrote:


    He could have won the Masters last year, except he hit a terrible tee shot on 18. Which speaks to the fact that he hits some terrible tee shots for a major champion.



    Let's say that the practice area at Royal Birkdale was out of bounds (which it most certainly will be the next time that Birkdale holds the tournament). If he can't take the drop over in the practice area, and has to play from 2 club lengths, or go back and re-tee, I don't think he wins - and Kuchar doesn't lose momentum.



    He may be a good iron player, but his driving is suspect; hence my low expectation of more majors.




    What if Jack ate a bad hot dog before the final round in '86 and had to WD?



    Oh, that would be a silly thing to even discuss.




    You picked the wrong example. Jack was a much better athlete than Jordan, and a much better driver of the ball.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,835 ✭✭
    This thread willl be fun after Augusta.
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  • A.PrinceyA.Princey Major Hacker Members Posts: 2,152 ✭✭
    These threads are funny, much like all of TW topics. The responders always fit into one of several categories.



    A. Staunch supporters; where said player can do no wrong. Issues are non-issues no matter how apparent. "Fanboys" so to speak. They want "their" player to win so badly it blinds them to anything remotely close to reality. When threads like this arise they bang on the door like, "How dare you say such things, quit inciting a riot about my guy! Fake news!"



    B. Absolute antagonists, "haters". A huge level of disdain and dislike for said player, where nothing pleases them more to see them lose. Typically have stats on their side in arguments to the contrary, purely due to unwritten future outcomes. Almost always speak in "absolutes" regarding a player being "done". Again, reality for these people seems to bend to their will. By merely making a claim, it would seem as if the historians are scribing their very predictions into the books as fact.



    C. Reasonable fans, some of whom cheer for said player, and others who don't(but also refrain from cheering "against" them). These folks, for one reason or other, enjoy the entirety of the golfing field and/or other individual players as well, unaffected by said player. These fans don't speak in absolutes, except when serious factual/statistical certainty is presentable. These in this category are simply passing through threads like this, fully able to sleep at night without having to pen a wordy rebuttable against the latest "travesty" of a remark, just posted to the board.



    I'm guilty of 'A' on occasion regarding Tiger, but lean in a Cward direction most times unless a member of team B starts spewing loathsome nonsense. It never fails, hot-button personalities' and players' topics always devolve into these same, back-and-forth sh** flinging threads. This will be one of them.

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  • Swisstrader98Swisstrader98 Members Posts: 3,519 ✭✭


    I was watching Morning Drive this morning and the question at hand was, "is Jordan Spieth done?". Was his record breaking run a fluke, or all he's got in him? Personally, I don't think so. Please share your thoughts.




    Your name is Jordan Speeth and you don’t know the answer or is this a rhetorical question🤪
  • Swisstrader98Swisstrader98 Members Posts: 3,519 ✭✭
    A.Princey wrote:


    These threads are funny, much like all of TW topics. The responders always fit into one of several categories.



    A. Staunch supporters; where said player can do no wrong. Issues are non-issues no matter how apparent. "Fanboys" so to speak. They want "their" player to win so badly it blinds them to anything remotely close to reality. When threads like this arise they bang on the door like, "How dare you say such things, quit inciting a riot about my guy! Fake news!"



    B. Absolute antagonists, "haters". A huge level of disdain and dislike for said player, where nothing pleases them more to see them lose. Typically have stats on their side in arguments to the contrary, purely due to unwritten future outcomes. Almost always speak in "absolutes" regarding a player being "done". Again, reality for these people seems to bend to their will. By merely making a claim, it would seem as if the historians are scribing their very predictions into the books as fact.



    C. Reasonable fans, some of whom cheer for said player, and others who don't(but also refrain from cheering "against" them). These folks, for one reason or other, enjoy the entirety of the golfing field and/or other individual players as well, unaffected by said player. These fans don't speak in absolutes, except when serious factual/statistical certainty is presentable. These in this category are simply passing through threads like this, fully able to sleep at night without having to pen a wordy rebuttable against the latest "travesty" of a remark, just posted to the board.



    I'm guilty of 'A' on occasion regarding Tiger, but lean in a Cward direction most times unless a member of team B starts spewing loathsome nonsense. It never fails, hot-button personalities' and players' topics always devolve into these same, back-and-forth sh** flinging threads. This will be one of them.




    Thank you Captain Obvious😂
  • A.PrinceyA.Princey Major Hacker Members Posts: 2,152 ✭✭
    A.Princey wrote:


    These threads are funny, much like all of TW topics. The responders always fit into one of several categories.



    A. Staunch supporters; where said player can do no wrong. Issues are non-issues no matter how apparent. "Fanboys" so to speak. They want "their" player to win so badly it blinds them to anything remotely close to reality. When threads like this arise they bang on the door like, "How dare you say such things, quit inciting a riot about my guy! Fake news!"



    B. Absolute antagonists, "haters". A huge level of disdain and dislike for said player, where nothing pleases them more to see them lose. Typically have stats on their side in arguments to the contrary, purely due to unwritten future outcomes. Almost always speak in "absolutes" regarding a player being "done". Again, reality for these people seems to bend to their will. By merely making a claim, it would seem as if the historians are scribing their very predictions into the books as fact.



    C. Reasonable fans, some of whom cheer for said player, and others who don't(but also refrain from cheering "against" them). These folks, for one reason or other, enjoy the entirety of the golfing field and/or other individual players as well, unaffected by said player. These fans don't speak in absolutes, except when serious factual/statistical certainty is presentable. These in this category are simply passing through threads like this, fully able to sleep at night without having to pen a wordy rebuttable against the latest "travesty" of a remark, just posted to the board.



    I'm guilty of 'A' on occasion regarding Tiger, but lean in a Cward direction most times unless a member of team B starts spewing loathsome nonsense. It never fails, hot-button personalities' and players' topics always devolve into these same, back-and-forth sh** flinging threads. This will be one of them.




    Thank you Captain Obvious�
    I just wanted the forum public to know they've been categorized, and to now fall in line! I've been guilty of staying up late in heatedly replying to a topic. Lol
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  • daleheaddalehead Members Posts: 1,460 ✭✭
    Definitely not done, but he's already had his career year.
  • williamsnrbwilliamsnrb The Golf Doctor Members Posts: 1,616
    Man, he's streaky. So when he's off, he's off. But when he's on, there are only a few who can keep up. I'll admit the run he went on in 2015 is stuff of legends and may not recur, but he'll win more majors and will be a force for another 15+ years. The kid has grit in big situations - something a lot of his competitors seem to lack.
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  • SNIPERBBBSNIPERBBB Hit Ball Hard SE OhioMembers Posts: 2,195 ✭✭
    edited Jan 4, 2019 12:05am #85
    ckay wrote:


    That is a clickbait GC topic. You can't do what JS has done out of a fluke.




    Yes, yes you can. Happens in every sport, every walk of life. Guys come on hot at the right time and make it big. Then the competition figures you out or rises to your challenge or you flat flame out. It takes something extremely special to stay on top and dominate any sport or industry.



    None of this is to say he is done, but it's hard to make say someone is done if that someone doesn't come out and say they are done.
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  • FootWedge16FootWedge16 Members Posts: 251 ✭✭
    Is he done? No, he’s definitely not done. He still has plenty of victories (including majors) left in him. However, I think we’ve already seen his peak. I don’t believe he’ll ever have another season like he did a couple years ago.
  • norge5norge5 Members Posts: 1,492 ✭✭
    Nobody will ever will another tournament now that Cameron Champ is in town! Book it! He runs the table for the next 20 years.
  • lowheellowheel LOWHEEL Members Posts: 6,140 ✭✭

    Hawkeye77 wrote:

    gvogel wrote:


    He could have won the Masters last year, except he hit a terrible tee shot on 18. Which speaks to the fact that he hits some terrible tee shots for a major champion.



    Let's say that the practice area at Royal Birkdale was out of bounds (which it most certainly will be the next time that Birkdale holds the tournament). If he can't take the drop over in the practice area, and has to play from 2 club lengths, or go back and re-tee, I don't think he wins - and Kuchar doesn't lose momentum.



    He may be a good iron player, but his driving is suspect; hence my low expectation of more majors.




    What if Jack ate a bad hot dog before the final round in '86 and had to WD?



    Oh, that would be a silly thing to even discuss.




    Jack DID eat a bad hot dog before the final round in '86. He was able to experience a "full release" at the turn, which led to the 30 on the back nine.



    He later said that he felt noticeably lighter and swung more freely, without any fear of sharting in his pants.




    Well played sir...



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  • FergusonFerguson Members Posts: 4,679 ✭✭
    Hawkeye77 wrote:

    gvogel wrote:


    He could have won the Masters last year, except he hit a terrible tee shot on 18. Which speaks to the fact that he hits some terrible tee shots for a major champion.



    Let's say that the practice area at Royal Birkdale was out of bounds (which it most certainly will be the next time that Birkdale holds the tournament). If he can't take the drop over in the practice area, and has to play from 2 club lengths, or go back and re-tee, I don't think he wins - and Kuchar doesn't lose momentum.



    He may be a good iron player, but his driving is suspect; hence my low expectation of more majors.




    What if Jack ate a bad hot dog before the final round in '86 and had to WD?



    Oh, that would be a silly thing to even discuss.






    According to "Golf, My Way", Jack used to carry a "roll" in his bag for food energy.



    i always wondered what kind of roll he was referencing? A roll?



    Was it one he grabbed off the lunch table?

    Was it a Kaiser, Potato Roll, Pretzel, Sesame or Ciabatta?

    Was it sliced?

    Was it just "in a napkin" and jammed in his bag?





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  • Viktoryred3Viktoryred3 Just playing the game... Members Posts: 174 ✭✭
    Until he cuts the “we” stuff out, I don’t think he becomes a top 10 player in the world again. I get wanting to include your caddie, coaches, support system in your success, but come on. Professional golf is not team golf, time to be your own man when in between the ropes...that being said, I hope he figures it out
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    edited Jan 4, 2019 7:43am #91
    gvogel wrote:

    Hawkeye77 wrote:

    gvogel wrote:


    He could have won the Masters last year, except he hit a terrible tee shot on 18. Which speaks to the fact that he hits some terrible tee shots for a major champion.



    Let's say that the practice area at Royal Birkdale was out of bounds (which it most certainly will be the next time that Birkdale holds the tournament). If he can't take the drop over in the practice area, and has to play from 2 club lengths, or go back and re-tee, I don't think he wins - and Kuchar doesn't lose momentum.



    He may be a good iron player, but his driving is suspect; hence my low expectation of more majors.




    What if Jack ate a bad hot dog before the final round in '86 and had to WD?



    Oh, that would be a silly thing to even discuss.




    You picked the wrong example. Jack was a much better athlete than Jordan, and a much better driver of the ball.




    WTF? That has nothing to do with anything. You're like that guy at the beginning of "Pale Rider" - "You aren't going to town again are you?"



    Now you are saying if you assume OB into some tournament where it never existed and that Jack never played in but if he had he wouldn't have hit into the not real OB at that particular time because your hypotheticals are making allowances for players' strengths and weaknesses you are making more sense? LOL. They are still useless hypotheticals. The tournaments happened, the results are what they are.



    Oh, that pond was a little bigger then Tiger would have been in the water on 16, goodbye Tour Championship. Oh, Freddie doesn't get lucky with the grass on 12 he might not have won The Masters. Just more of the same obvious silliness.
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