What’s Replacing Your Ping G400 Max for 2019?

G-BoneG-Bone Better than most...Members Posts: 2,687 ✭✭

For those of you who played G400 Max last season and have dropped It for something shiny and new in 2019... what was it... what new driver beat out your trusty Max?

For me so far the only thing to come close on Trackman has been TaylorMade M5... but not close enough to unseat the Max just yet.

Curious who’s made the switch and to what.

PING G400 Max Driver 8º ~ GD Tour AD IZ
TaylorMade M5 Fairway 15º ~ GD Tour AD DI
Callaway Apex 19 Hybrid 20º ~ GD Tour AD HY
Callaway Apex 19 Hybrid 23º ~ GD Tour AD HY
Epon by Endo AF-505 Irons 5–PW ~ Rifle Project X
PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 50/SS (51º) ~ Rifle Project X
PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 56/SS (57º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X
PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 60/SS (63º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X
Titleist Scotty Cameron Circle T Del Mar Buttonback Select Tour Prototype (A026140)
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  • WoodersonWooderson Posts: 1,967 ✭✭

    I let the Cobra f9 battle the GMax. The f9 lost badly. The GMax also beat out a regular g400 when I originally bought it. I attempted to let the rogue challenge it but the one I bought was cracked so I sent back to Callaway pre-owned without hitting it.

    Finally I tried one last club. After 2 rounds I can say that the GMax may have met it's match. For me the g400 LST has better feel and slightly more distance. However, a bad swing is more apt to snap hook. The GMax seems to hold off the snap hook due to toe hits much better. Going to continue the testing but I really like the LST. I will keep both driver no matter who becomes primary.

    Let me tell you what Wooderson is packin'
    Ping G400 Max 9° Tour 65 Stiff

    Callaway Epic Flash 15°
    Callaway Epic Heavenwood
    Ping G410 22°
    Titleist 818 H1 25°
    TM p790 6-PW Modus 105 Stiff
    Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth GW/SW
    Ping Eye2 LW
    Odyssey Marxman
  • caniac6caniac6 Members Posts: 2,653 ✭✭

    Possibly, my old G20.

  • Hateto3PuttHateto3Putt Smoking Makes You Look Cool! Members Posts: 6,270 ✭✭

    Can't foresee replacing the Max, at least not anytime soon.
    I did hit my buddy's Epic Flash, seemed OK, but not a game changer for me.

  • DavidvDavidv Posts: 685 ✭✭

    Nothing yet, so far only gave the Epic Flash a try nice but not nice enough. Long as the GMax but not as forgiving.

  • SuperBombinSuperBombin Members Posts: 151 ✭✭

    I think it’s staying in my bag for a couple more years at least.

  • dpb5031dpb5031 Members Posts: 5,011 ✭✭

    You may be able to find a driver that produces lower spin and the occasional higher ball speed on certain strikes, but the GMax is so consistent in ball speed across the face, and so stable on mishits, that it's tough to find an overall better performer once you've got your specs dialed-in. I've got an F9 that is a really good fit also, and "best for best" it is longer than the Max, but if I had to play in a match for my life tomorrow, I'd put the Max back in the bag.

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    Ping G 22 Hybrid (2 flat) - Ping Tour 80 S
    Ping i200 5-UW (2 flat) - Nippon Modus 105X
    Ping Glide 2.0 - SS 54 (bent to 55 & 2 flat)
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  • boycer11boycer11 ClubWRX Posts: 3,439 ClubWRX

    I have an m5 and gmax. I hit them 4 times side by side on the course in testing. In testing I hit the m5 straighter and at least 15 yards longer on those 4 holes. One hole the m5 was 34 paces longer.

    The next day I gamed the m5, and hit three balls in the water and three out of bounds. I have more testing to do. I think I'd like a 10.5 m5 head instead of the 9* and that might help. I do have an accra tz6 75 stiff and heavier weight in the gmax and it's like swinging a 2x4 piece of wood and an tensei orange for it.

    I have a fitting scheduled for Wednesday, hope to hit the m5, gmax, flash, g410.

    Ping G400 max tensei orange pro
    Callaway epic flash sz 3 wood
    Ping g400 5 wd rogue black 7s
    ping g410 tensei hybrid
    Epon 705 5-aw limited black kbs flt matte black/Callaway Apex 2019 combo
    miura limited black tour 2018 54/58
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  • TheGoochTheGooch Members Posts: 86 ✭✭

    Cobra F8 replaced it.

    Cobra F8 9*
    Callaway Rogue 3-Wood 15*
    Callaway Apex Hybrid 20*
    Callaway Apex CF16 5-7-9-GW
    Ping Glide 58SS
    Tommy Armour Impact #3
  • shakeyshakey OvenWRX 1 Members Posts: 5,683 ✭✭

    I looked really hard at the Max when testing drivers recently, but ended up ordering a G410 to replace my M6 (which was a beast in the simulator, but not so much in real world). The G410 carries about 10 yds longer than the TM due to better launch and spin numbers.

    TM M6 10.5 w/PX Evenflow Blue 65 Stiff
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    NIKE VR Pro II Hybrid 3 (21) w/PX Graphite 5.5
    Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 4-PW w/Modus 120 Stiff

    TM Milled Grind Black 52 SB and 58 LB w/Modus Tour 125 Wedge
    TM TP Black Copper Mullen 2

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  • mbarnockimbarnocki Posts: 150 ✭✭

    I had the G400 Max all last season. I am not nearly as enchanted with it as others. I don't jump around a lot on drivers so I tried to make it work. Tried several shafts and settings but never got comfortable. I think I made a mistake getting the 10.5 head. I have had one good demo session with a TS3 and I sold the G400 Max head immediately. I had been in a 913D3 prior to the G400 and it just felt great to be hitting a Titleist again.

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  • balls_deepballs_deep Members Posts: 460 ✭✭

    @caniac6 said:
    Possibly, my old G20.

    Honestly, such a ****ing good driver. Same with the 3 wood. A bit spinny but man was it straight and high.

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  • swizbeatzswizbeatz Members Posts: 5,597 ✭✭

    Probably the 410 if anything. I’ve been messing around with an M5 and I like the Max more.

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  • G-BoneG-Bone Better than most... Members Posts: 2,687 ✭✭
    edited Mar 25, 2019 3:26pm #15

    @dpb5031 said:
    You may be able to find a driver that produces lower spin and the occasional higher ball speed on certain strikes, but the GMax is so consistent in ball speed across the face, and so stable on mishits, that it's tough to find an overall better performer once you've got your specs dialed-in. I've got an F9 that is a really good fit also, and "best for best" it is longer than the Max, but if I had to play in a match for my life tomorrow, I'd put the Max back in the bag.

    This is basically what I found with M5. On the best of best shots, M5 has more ball speed and slightly more distance. However, when I hit 10 shots with each side by side, Max beat M5 average for distance and dispersion.

    M5 had lower launch and higher spin than Max, with higher club head and ball speed. I will continue to mess around with M5 hosel placement, weight placement, and shaft combos to see if there is a more winning package than my dialed in Max.

    For discussion's sake, I have also hit G410, F9, M6, TS3 and Epic Flash with none being better for me than Max.

    Post edited by G-Bone on
    PING G400 Max Driver 8º ~ GD Tour AD IZ
    TaylorMade M5 Fairway 15º ~ GD Tour AD DI
    Callaway Apex 19 Hybrid 20º ~ GD Tour AD HY
    Callaway Apex 19 Hybrid 23º ~ GD Tour AD HY
    Epon by Endo AF-505 Irons 5–PW ~ Rifle Project X
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 50/SS (51º) ~ Rifle Project X
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 56/SS (57º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 60/SS (63º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X
    Titleist Scotty Cameron Circle T Del Mar Buttonback Select Tour Prototype (A026140)
    Titleist Pro V1 ~ #19
  • G-BoneG-Bone Better than most... Members Posts: 2,687 ✭✭

    @swizbeatz said:
    Probably the 410 if anything. I’ve been messing around with an M5 and I like the Max more.

    G410 didn't perform for me. Good news is everything I hear about G410 LST coming at the end of June is great; supposedly the lowest spinning most forgiving driver head combo Ping has ever made... look forward to giving it a go.

    Looks like we will see a G410 Max in the fall too... so that could be interesting.

    PING G400 Max Driver 8º ~ GD Tour AD IZ
    TaylorMade M5 Fairway 15º ~ GD Tour AD DI
    Callaway Apex 19 Hybrid 20º ~ GD Tour AD HY
    Callaway Apex 19 Hybrid 23º ~ GD Tour AD HY
    Epon by Endo AF-505 Irons 5–PW ~ Rifle Project X
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 50/SS (51º) ~ Rifle Project X
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 56/SS (57º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 60/SS (63º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X
    Titleist Scotty Cameron Circle T Del Mar Buttonback Select Tour Prototype (A026140)
    Titleist Pro V1 ~ #19
  • t4t3rt4t3r Members Posts: 2,648 ✭✭

    Made a shaft change as well as a different loft G400 Max head and it started to come alive yesterday. Tinkered with an F9 over the last couple months and while a touch longer than both my M5 and the G400 Max, I just didn't think I would get along with it long-term. M5 has been really good every time I've had it out so far, and then yesterday it finally cost me a few strokes. It is still the front-runner for now, but the G400 Max was pretty much right there with it. Last hole was a reachable par 5 and hit one ball with each and the M5 may have gotten it by 5 yards at most, but the Max swing was a just a tiny bit of a wipe which I expected to be further back than 5 yards to be honest.

    410 seems to be 50/50 on being amazing for some and not even in the discussion for others. Strange results so far as Ping drivers are usually pretty consistent across the user base. Still have a couple left to try, but M5 and G400 Max are both phenomenal.

    Ping G400 Max 9* - Project X Evenflow T1100 White 6.5
    Callaway Alpha 816 DBD 14* - Diamana D+ 70x
    Callaway Alpha 815 20* - UST iRoD 85x
    Callaway 2013 X-Forged 4-PW - Nippon Modus 130
    Titleist Vokey SM7 Raw 52.08F
    Titleist Vokey SM6 Raw 56.08M
    Callaway MD4 Raw 60.08C
    Scotty Cameron Milspec 350g
  • NevinWNevinW Las VegasClubWRX Posts: 1,111 ClubWRX

    Nothing! My G400 Max is probably the best driver I have ever owned.

  • Wolf4birdieWolf4birdie Members Posts: 409 ✭✭

    G400Max is scary straight... I can't really see anything kicking it out of the bag anytime soon. Just gives so much confidence.

  • RH82RH82 Members Posts: 1,982 ✭✭

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    Toulon Madison
  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX Posts: 2,177 ClubWRX

    The 410 plus set to draw is a pretty long setup for me. Cuts spin and strong flight. I like the head shape and matte paint. Maybe I am just used to Ping but I think the 410 looks sharp.

    I am gaming the G400 w Tour shaft, which was longer for me than the MAX. The 410 and F9 look good from address to me. I am gaming the F9 3W and the ball feels so good off the face that I took a look at the driver. It I do change drivers, however, it would be difficult to move from Ping. It was the move to Ping that really put me in much better position off the tee more consistently. Yes, fixing a sequencing flaw under the eye of an excellent teaching pro was happening at the same time and was the key to getting me back on track, but that said, the Ping is definitely easier for me to put in the fairway vs other heads.

    I probably can hit a few drivers a bit longer but some of those are experiments (the M1 440, for example) did not work. Not going for M5. Do like the look of the M6. Reports are it is quite forgiving.

    The golf stat I focus on is greens in regulation and which driver puts me in best position to do well in that category. Pitching out of the trees will not help GIR!

    The Titleist drivers (D2/TS2/TS3) also were strong on producing a tight dispersion. One of those, the F9, 410 plus, M6 and Mizzy ST190 (their best in years) would be my contenders. Not in any hurry.

    Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
  • phil6380phil6380 Members Posts: 38 ✭✭

    Nothing. I'm driving it straighter and hitting more fairways than I ever have. The more confident I get with it, the harder I'm hitting and the further it's going all while being just dumb consistent and dependable. I wish I could change the sound of it to sound like the dull thud of the old M2 but that's a small thing to me.

    Ping G400 Max Tour AD-IZ 10.5 deg. playing 44.5"
    Taylormade UDI Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 (rarely in the bag)
    Cobra F8 3 wood Tour AD-IZ 14.5 deg.
    Cobra F8 5 wood Tour AD-IZ 18 deg.
    Cobra F8 4 hybrid Tour AD-DI 22 deg.
    Mizuno JPX919 HM 6-PW Nippon 105
    Vokey 50F, 56M & 60M Nippon 120
    Cameron 5w
  • scottazscottaz ClubWRX Posts: 1,900 ClubWRX

    I tried the Max ( two different heads) last year in a few shafts that fit me well and got rid of them pretty quickly. I really wanted to make it work, even if it cost me a few yards. But my M3 and the LST were better.
    While being fit in late October, we tried it again with another shaft and a new head that was digitally lofted and I saw how impressive the right head and shaft could be. Even then I was cautious about going down that road again. For a month or so all I thought about is how easy it was to hit that day and eventually decided to give it another shot. It'll take something really special to replace this set up. I'm done for a while.

  • dmac4gdmac4g Members Posts: 1,244 ✭✭

    Nothing is going to replace it for awhile. It is so straight and easy to hit. Really, really hurts to admit that my rotating driver days are behind me! Good thing the forum is a mess right now, that is helping with my wandering eye!

  • toctoc Members Posts: 2,710 ✭✭

    M5 for me, longer and way better feel/sound

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  • G-BoneG-Bone Better than most... Members Posts: 2,687 ✭✭

    @toc said:
    M5 for me, longer and way better feel/sound

    Sound and feel are the main reason I wanted F9 or M5 to work for me lol... two of the best sounding/feeling drivers I have hit in a long time.

    PING G400 Max Driver 8º ~ GD Tour AD IZ
    TaylorMade M5 Fairway 15º ~ GD Tour AD DI
    Callaway Apex 19 Hybrid 20º ~ GD Tour AD HY
    Callaway Apex 19 Hybrid 23º ~ GD Tour AD HY
    Epon by Endo AF-505 Irons 5–PW ~ Rifle Project X
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 50/SS (51º) ~ Rifle Project X
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 56/SS (57º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 60/SS (63º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X
    Titleist Scotty Cameron Circle T Del Mar Buttonback Select Tour Prototype (A026140)
    Titleist Pro V1 ~ #19
  • gmyers22gmyers22 Members Posts: 37 ✭✭

    So far so good with the Max. I love to tinker but the Max is really good. I have a Rogue 125 in mine and I am really happy.

  • kygolfer81kygolfer81 Members Posts: 50 ✭✭

    @Wooderson said:
    I let the Cobra f9 battle the GMax. The f9 lost badly. The GMax also beat out a regular g400 when I originally bought it. I attempted to let the rogue challenge it but the one I bought was cracked so I sent back to Callaway pre-owned without hitting it.

    Finally I tried one last club. After 2 rounds I can say that the GMax may have met it's match. For me the g400 LST has better feel and slightly more distance. However, a bad swing is more apt to snap hook. The GMax seems to hold off the snap hook due to toe hits much better. Going to continue the testing but I really like the LST. I will keep both driver no matter who becomes primary.

    I have a G400Max and really like the looks of it, but it was quite spinny and the sound was LOUD! I bought a used LST head on eBay and man... the LST head is amazing. It's forgiving (while not quite as forgiving as the Max) but it sounds completely different than the Max (in a good way). Ball flight is more penetrating and carry is much better than the Max with the same shaft. I love the slightly smaller head too. Something about smaller heads just seem to fit me better than the giant ones.

  • nostaticnostatic "i drank what?!?" Socrates lost angelesClubWRX Posts: 96 ClubWRX
    edited Mar 25, 2019 6:57pm #29

    Was fit into the G400Max, and it has made my driver the most consistent club in the bag. Not even going to look at other options for the foreseeable future (heresy I know ). I will however work in my new F9 3W and see how that plays.

    Ping G400Max 10.5 XTorsion S - G410 2H AltaCB S - Cobra F9 3W Devo7 S - F9 3H Devo8 S 
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  • golfgirlrobingolfgirlrobin Members Posts: 2,280 ✭✭

    Going to skip this year’s offerings. Going to be all over the inevitable G420, though. I’d preorder it now, if they’d let me.

    Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5*
    Fairway: Epic Flash 14* & 20*
    Hybrid: Ping G410 22*
    Irons: TaylorMade M CGB 6-SW
    Wedges: Callaway 2019 PM Grind 59* and 64*
    Putter: TaylorMade Spider X - Copper / Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide
  • RichieHuntRichieHunt Members Posts: 3,599 ✭✭

    I don't have any plans on changing anytime, soon. I will hit some drivers further. I hit the Callaway Rogue SZ about 15 yards further when I hit both of them as well as I can. But, the CoG on those Callaways is slightly towards the heel and my miss is more towards the toe and in the end, I found it very easy to hook the Rogue SZ. I have to make a terrible swing to hook the G400 Max.

    The only issue I have is that it launches a little high. Even the spin rate isn't bad at all. And for any lost distance I can make up for it on holes where everybody is laying up off the tee and I'm confidently hitting driver in the fairway.

    To me, the G400 Max is about as close as one has come to a club that answers the question would you rather hit the fairway all of the time and lose 10 yards? The question is not very realistic, but you get the point. And with the G400 Max, the answer is a resounding yes.

    I have hit other drivers that have recently hit the market and there's nothing to make me want to switch. I can hit some about 10-15 yards further, but the consistency and accuracy is well short of the G400 Max.

    RH

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