What’s Replacing Your Ping G400 Max for 2019?

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For those of you who played G400 Max last season and have dropped It for something shiny and new in 2019... what was it... what new driver beat out your trusty Max?

For me so far the only thing to come close on Trackman has been TaylorMade M5... but not close enough to unseat the Max just yet.

Curious who’s made the switch and to what.

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  • PING G410 LST Driver 9º ~ GD Tour AD IZ-6s
  • TaylorMade M5 Fairway 14º ~ GD Tour AD IZ-7s
  • TaylorMade M5 Fairway 19º ~ GD Tour AD IZ-7s
  • Callaway Apex 19 Hybrid 23º ~ GD Tour AD DI-85s
  • Epon by Endo AF-505 Irons 5–PW ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 blackout
  • PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 50/SS (51º) ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 blackout
  • PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 56/SS (57º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 SS blackout
  • PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 60/SS (63º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 SS blackout
  • Titleist Scotty Cameron Circle T Del Mar Buttonback Select Tour Prototype (A026140) 
  • Bridgestone Tour B X (2020)
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  • WoodersonWooderson  2061WRX Points: 208Handicap: 13Members Posts: 2,061 Platinum Tees
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    I let the Cobra f9 battle the GMax. The f9 lost badly. The GMax also beat out a regular g400 when I originally bought it. I attempted to let the rogue challenge it but the one I bought was cracked so I sent back to Callaway pre-owned without hitting it.

    Finally I tried one last club. After 2 rounds I can say that the GMax may have met it's match. For me the g400 LST has better feel and slightly more distance. However, a bad swing is more apt to snap hook. The GMax seems to hold off the snap hook due to toe hits much better. Going to continue the testing but I really like the LST. I will keep both driver no matter who becomes primary.

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    Ping G410 LST 10.5° Evenflow t1100 White 65s 44.5"
    Titleist TS3 15° Evenflow t1100 White 75s
    Callaway Epic Flash or Cobra F9 18°
    Ping G410 22°/25° Hybrid Steelfiber HLS
    TaylorMade p790 6-PW Project X LZ 6.0
    Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth GW/SW/LW
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  • caniac6caniac6  3269WRX Points: 910Handicap: 4Members Posts: 3,269 Titanium Tees
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    Possibly, my old G20.

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  • Hateto3PuttHateto3Putt Smoking Makes You Look Cool!  6359WRX Points: 312Members Posts: 6,359 Titanium Tees
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    Can't foresee replacing the Max, at least not anytime soon.
    I did hit my buddy's Epic Flash, seemed OK, but not a game changer for me.

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  • DavidvDavidv  1005WRX Points: 228Members Posts: 1,005 Platinum Tees
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    Nothing yet, so far only gave the Epic Flash a try nice but not nice enough. Long as the GMax but not as forgiving.

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  • SuperBombinSuperBombin  222WRX Points: 107Members Posts: 222 Fairways
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    I think it’s staying in my bag for a couple more years at least.

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  • dpb5031dpb5031 Jupiter, FL 5790WRX Points: 1,327Members Posts: 5,790 Titanium Tees
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    You may be able to find a driver that produces lower spin and the occasional higher ball speed on certain strikes, but the GMax is so consistent in ball speed across the face, and so stable on mishits, that it's tough to find an overall better performer once you've got your specs dialed-in. I've got an F9 that is a really good fit also, and "best for best" it is longer than the Max, but if I had to play in a match for my life tomorrow, I'd put the Max back in the bag.

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    Taylormade M2 Tour 15 Fujikura Pro TourSpec 73 
    Kasco K2K 33 - UST Axivcore 65 Tour Green 
    Callaway RazrX Tour 4h - Tour 95 shaft
    Ping i200 5-UW (2 flat) - Nippon Modus 105X
    Taylormade HiToe 54 (bent to 55 & 2 flat)
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  • boycer11boycer11  3568WRX Points: 160ClubWRX Posts: 3,568 ClubWRX
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    I have an m5 and gmax. I hit them 4 times side by side on the course in testing. In testing I hit the m5 straighter and at least 15 yards longer on those 4 holes. One hole the m5 was 34 paces longer.

    The next day I gamed the m5, and hit three balls in the water and three out of bounds. I have more testing to do. I think I'd like a 10.5 m5 head instead of the 9* and that might help. I do have an accra tz6 75 stiff and heavier weight in the gmax and it's like swinging a 2x4 piece of wood and an tensei orange for it.

    I have a fitting scheduled for Wednesday, hope to hit the m5, gmax, flash, g410.

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  • TheGoochTheGooch  96WRX Points: 84Members Posts: 96 Fairways
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    Cobra F8 replaced it.

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    Callaway Rogue 3-Wood 15*
    Callaway Apex Hybrid 20*
    Callaway Apex CF16 5 - GW
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  • shakeyshakey OvenWRX 1  5840WRX Points: 348Handicap: 4Members Posts: 5,840 Titanium Tees
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    I looked really hard at the Max when testing drivers recently, but ended up ordering a G410 to replace my M6 (which was a beast in the simulator, but not so much in real world). The G410 carries about 10 yds longer than the TM due to better launch and spin numbers.

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  • mbarnockimbarnocki  212WRX Points: 102Handicap: 8Members Posts: 212 Fairways
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    I had the G400 Max all last season. I am not nearly as enchanted with it as others. I don't jump around a lot on drivers so I tried to make it work. Tried several shafts and settings but never got comfortable. I think I made a mistake getting the 10.5 head. I have had one good demo session with a TS3 and I sold the G400 Max head immediately. I had been in a 913D3 prior to the G400 and it just felt great to be hitting a Titleist again.

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    Nike VR Pro 2 Hybrid PX 6.0
    Srixon U85 4 Iron DG 120 X100
    TM 760 Irons 5-pw DG 120 X100
    Vokey 50, 54 PX LX 6.0, KBS Tour V X
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    On -, @caniac6 said:

    Possibly, my old G20.

    Honestly, such a ****ing good driver. Same with the 3 wood. A bit spinny but man was it straight and high.

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  • swizbeatzswizbeatz  5770WRX Points: 257Handicap: +.6Members Posts: 5,770 Titanium Tees
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    Probably the 410 if anything. I’ve been messing around with an M5 and I like the Max more.

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    On -, @dpb5031 said:

    You may be able to find a driver that produces lower spin and the occasional higher ball speed on certain strikes, but the GMax is so consistent in ball speed across the face, and so stable on mishits, that it's tough to find an overall better performer once you've got your specs dialed-in. I've got an F9 that is a really good fit also, and "best for best" it is longer than the Max, but if I had to play in a match for my life tomorrow, I'd put the Max back in the bag.

    This is basically what I found with M5. On the best of best shots, M5 has more ball speed and slightly more distance. However, when I hit 10 shots with each side by side, Max beat M5 average for distance and dispersion.

    M5 had lower launch and higher spin than Max, with higher club head and ball speed. I will continue to mess around with M5 hosel placement, weight placement, and shaft combos to see if there is a more winning package than my dialed in Max.

    For discussion's sake, I have also hit G410, F9, M6, TS3 and Epic Flash with none being better for me than Max.

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    • PING G410 LST Driver 9º ~ GD Tour AD IZ-6s
    • TaylorMade M5 Fairway 14º ~ GD Tour AD IZ-7s
    • TaylorMade M5 Fairway 19º ~ GD Tour AD IZ-7s
    • Callaway Apex 19 Hybrid 23º ~ GD Tour AD DI-85s
    • Epon by Endo AF-505 Irons 5–PW ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 blackout
    • PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 50/SS (51º) ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 blackout
    • PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 56/SS (57º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 SS blackout
    • PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 60/SS (63º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 SS blackout
    • Titleist Scotty Cameron Circle T Del Mar Buttonback Select Tour Prototype (A026140) 
    • Bridgestone Tour B X (2020)
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    On -, @swizbeatz said:

    Probably the 410 if anything. I’ve been messing around with an M5 and I like the Max more.

    G410 didn't perform for me. Good news is everything I hear about G410 LST coming at the end of June is great; supposedly the lowest spinning most forgiving driver head combo Ping has ever made... look forward to giving it a go.

    Looks like we will see a G410 Max in the fall too... so that could be interesting.

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    • PING G410 LST Driver 9º ~ GD Tour AD IZ-6s
    • TaylorMade M5 Fairway 14º ~ GD Tour AD IZ-7s
    • TaylorMade M5 Fairway 19º ~ GD Tour AD IZ-7s
    • Callaway Apex 19 Hybrid 23º ~ GD Tour AD DI-85s
    • Epon by Endo AF-505 Irons 5–PW ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 blackout
    • PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 50/SS (51º) ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 blackout
    • PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 56/SS (57º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 SS blackout
    • PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 60/SS (63º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 SS blackout
    • Titleist Scotty Cameron Circle T Del Mar Buttonback Select Tour Prototype (A026140) 
    • Bridgestone Tour B X (2020)
  • t4t3rt4t3r  2931WRX Points: 346Members Posts: 2,931 Titanium Tees
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    Made a shaft change as well as a different loft G400 Max head and it started to come alive yesterday. Tinkered with an F9 over the last couple months and while a touch longer than both my M5 and the G400 Max, I just didn't think I would get along with it long-term. M5 has been really good every time I've had it out so far, and then yesterday it finally cost me a few strokes. It is still the front-runner for now, but the G400 Max was pretty much right there with it. Last hole was a reachable par 5 and hit one ball with each and the M5 may have gotten it by 5 yards at most, but the Max swing was a just a tiny bit of a wipe which I expected to be further back than 5 yards to be honest.

    410 seems to be 50/50 on being amazing for some and not even in the discussion for others. Strange results so far as Ping drivers are usually pretty consistent across the user base. Still have a couple left to try, but M5 and G400 Max are both phenomenal.

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    Callaway Epic Flash 15* - GD Tour AD-VR 7x
    Callaway 815 Alpha 20* - UST iRoD 85x
    Bridgestone J40 CB 5-PW - DG Tour Issue AMT X100
    Callaway MD4 50.10S - DG Tour Issue 115
    Callaway MD4 54.10S - Nippon Modus 125 Wedge
    Callaway PM Grind 60.10 - DG Tour Issue S400
    Scotty Cameron Milspec 350g
    Taylormade TP5x
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  • NevinWNevinW Southside, West Virginia 1180WRX Points: 182Handicap: 4ClubWRX Posts: 1,180 ClubWRX
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    Nothing! My G400 Max is probably the best driver I have ever owned.

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  • Wolf4birdieWolf4birdie  413WRX Points: 74Members Posts: 413 Greens
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    G400Max is scary straight... I can't really see anything kicking it out of the bag anytime soon. Just gives so much confidence.

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  • RH82RH82 Alberta, Canada 2336WRX Points: 228Members Posts: 2,336 Platinum Tees
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    Rogue SZ

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  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC  2734WRX Points: 370Handicap: 8ClubWRX Posts: 2,734 ClubWRX
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    The 410 plus set to draw is a pretty long setup for me. Cuts spin and strong flight. I like the head shape and matte paint. Maybe I am just used to Ping but I think the 410 looks sharp.

    I am gaming the G400 w Tour shaft, which was longer for me than the MAX. The 410 and F9 look good from address to me. I am gaming the F9 3W and the ball feels so good off the face that I took a look at the driver. It I do change drivers, however, it would be difficult to move from Ping. It was the move to Ping that really put me in much better position off the tee more consistently. Yes, fixing a sequencing flaw under the eye of an excellent teaching pro was happening at the same time and was the key to getting me back on track, but that said, the Ping is definitely easier for me to put in the fairway vs other heads.

    I probably can hit a few drivers a bit longer but some of those are experiments (the M1 440, for example) did not work. Not going for M5. Do like the look of the M6. Reports are it is quite forgiving.

    The golf stat I focus on is greens in regulation and which driver puts me in best position to do well in that category. Pitching out of the trees will not help GIR!

    The Titleist drivers (D2/TS2/TS3) also were strong on producing a tight dispersion. One of those, the F9, 410 plus, M6 and Mizzy ST190 (their best in years) would be my contenders. Not in any hurry.

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    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
  • phil6380phil6380  50WRX Points: 31Members Posts: 50 Bunkers
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    Nothing. I'm driving it straighter and hitting more fairways than I ever have. The more confident I get with it, the harder I'm hitting and the further it's going all while being just dumb consistent and dependable. I wish I could change the sound of it to sound like the dull thud of the old M2 but that's a small thing to me.

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    Ping G400 Max
    Cobra F8 5 wood
    Cobra F9 7 wood
    Cobra F9 5 hybrid
    Taylormade P790 6-AW
    Callaway PM Grind 56 and 60
    Cameron Newport Select 2.5
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  • scottazscottaz  2009WRX Points: 221ClubWRX Posts: 2,009 ClubWRX
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    I tried the Max ( two different heads) last year in a few shafts that fit me well and got rid of them pretty quickly. I really wanted to make it work, even if it cost me a few yards. But my M3 and the LST were better.
    While being fit in late October, we tried it again with another shaft and a new head that was digitally lofted and I saw how impressive the right head and shaft could be. Even then I was cautious about going down that road again. For a month or so all I thought about is how easy it was to hit that day and eventually decided to give it another shot. It'll take something really special to replace this set up. I'm done for a while.

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    Callaway Apex 20 Fujikura pro 115x

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  • dmac4gdmac4g  1330WRX Points: 213Members Posts: 1,330 Platinum Tees
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    Nothing is going to replace it for awhile. It is so straight and easy to hit. Really, really hurts to admit that my rotating driver days are behind me! Good thing the forum is a mess right now, that is helping with my wandering eye!

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  • toctoc  2899WRX Points: 612Members Posts: 2,899 Titanium Tees
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    M5 for me, longer and way better feel/sound

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    On -, @toc said:

    M5 for me, longer and way better feel/sound

    Sound and feel are the main reason I wanted F9 or M5 to work for me lol... two of the best sounding/feeling drivers I have hit in a long time.

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    • PING G410 LST Driver 9º ~ GD Tour AD IZ-6s
    • TaylorMade M5 Fairway 14º ~ GD Tour AD IZ-7s
    • TaylorMade M5 Fairway 19º ~ GD Tour AD IZ-7s
    • Callaway Apex 19 Hybrid 23º ~ GD Tour AD DI-85s
    • Epon by Endo AF-505 Irons 5–PW ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 blackout
    • PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 50/SS (51º) ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 blackout
    • PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 56/SS (57º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 SS blackout
    • PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Wedge 60/SS (63º) - Tour Department 'SG' Grind ~ Rifle Project X 6.0 SS blackout
    • Titleist Scotty Cameron Circle T Del Mar Buttonback Select Tour Prototype (A026140) 
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  • gmyers22gmyers22  47WRX Points: 66Members Posts: 47 Bunkers
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    So far so good with the Max. I love to tinker but the Max is really good. I have a Rogue 125 in mine and I am really happy.

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    On -, @Wooderson said:

    I let the Cobra f9 battle the GMax. The f9 lost badly. The GMax also beat out a regular g400 when I originally bought it. I attempted to let the rogue challenge it but the one I bought was cracked so I sent back to Callaway pre-owned without hitting it.

    Finally I tried one last club. After 2 rounds I can say that the GMax may have met it's match. For me the g400 LST has better feel and slightly more distance. However, a bad swing is more apt to snap hook. The GMax seems to hold off the snap hook due to toe hits much better. Going to continue the testing but I really like the LST. I will keep both driver no matter who becomes primary.

    I have a G400Max and really like the looks of it, but it was quite spinny and the sound was LOUD! I bought a used LST head on eBay and man... the LST head is amazing. It's forgiving (while not quite as forgiving as the Max) but it sounds completely different than the Max (in a good way). Ball flight is more penetrating and carry is much better than the Max with the same shaft. I love the slightly smaller head too. Something about smaller heads just seem to fit me better than the giant ones.

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    Was fit into the G400Max, and it has made my driver the most consistent club in the bag. Not even going to look at other options for the foreseeable future (heresy I know ). I will however work in my new F9 3W and see how that plays.

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  • golfgirlrobingolfgirlrobin Northern California 2382WRX Points: 413Handicap: 2.0Members Posts: 2,382 Platinum Tees
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    Going to skip this year’s offerings. Going to be all over the inevitable G420, though. I’d preorder it now, if they’d let me.

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    Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5*
    Fairway: Epic Flash 14* & 20*
    Hybrid: Ping G410 22*
    Irons: TaylorMade M CGB 6-SW
    Wedges: Callaway PM Grind 59* and 64*
    Putter: Ping Vault 2.0 Ketsch
    Ball:  Titleist Pro V1 
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  • RichieHuntRichieHunt  3984WRX Points: 615Members Posts: 3,984 Titanium Tees
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    I don't have any plans on changing anytime, soon. I will hit some drivers further. I hit the Callaway Rogue SZ about 15 yards further when I hit both of them as well as I can. But, the CoG on those Callaways is slightly towards the heel and my miss is more towards the toe and in the end, I found it very easy to hook the Rogue SZ. I have to make a terrible swing to hook the G400 Max.

    The only issue I have is that it launches a little high. Even the spin rate isn't bad at all. And for any lost distance I can make up for it on holes where everybody is laying up off the tee and I'm confidently hitting driver in the fairway.

    To me, the G400 Max is about as close as one has come to a club that answers the question would you rather hit the fairway all of the time and lose 10 yards? The question is not very realistic, but you get the point. And with the G400 Max, the answer is a resounding yes.

    I have hit other drivers that have recently hit the market and there's nothing to make me want to switch. I can hit some about 10-15 yards further, but the consistency and accuracy is well short of the G400 Max.

    RH

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