Crossfield on staff with Titleist (MERGED)

[Medic]

I think RS would win just because he can hit the ball so much farther, That's a huge advantage over 18 holes.

 

Leave it to you to divert this thread into yet another distance thread. : )

 

I think it's the ball Rick uses personally.......

[The Mad Bomber]

I finally watched the "TaylorMade Golf Hates Me" video and I'm going to go on record and say that I'm squarely in the Crossfield camp on this one. TM marketing is just flat out stupid and he's really the enemy of all their dumb claims (#262). The 17 more yards"ier" campaign was one of the most offensive marketing drives in the history of our sport, right on par with the claims that Jack Hamm and The Hammer made, and Mr. 262 just blows their ridiculous propaganda to pieces. And even AFTER this slight from TMag, he's still saying publicly that they make great clubs (which they do). I like Crossfield a little more than I did 20 minutes ago.

[krisrod]

This is kinda the point. He's attacked TM's marketing and the garishness of some of their clubs, but has always maintained that they make good clubs. His points about robot testing and not relying on dry ball data are consistent across all manufacturers and I don't think he favours any brand over any other. That TM are the only manufacturer who've refused to send him gear makes them look bad, regardless of whether we think their position is reasonable or not.

[Medic]

Mark is on a Cunard Cruise now - going to give some lessons to a lucky winner. Queen Mary 2 - looks amazing.

 

But sadly I have a feeling that unless Carnival now makes him an offer to sail with them and give lessons he'll be saying negative things about their decision making soon while wearing QM2 t-shirts and such.

 

I kid of course. : )

 

All kidding aside, he'll still be telling it like it is with regard to the M3 and 4. But he will have paid for them and odds are he will mention that fact as he reviews them. But if his reviews of these newest TM drivers is anything like his past ones ironically he will like them, say so, and TM will actually start to look a bit foolish at that point because no reason such a well known reviewer should be buying clubs to provide reviews for their viewers. IMH he does the OEMs a huge favor doing his reviews. They are comprehensive, entertaining and are in many cases essentially a 20 minute to half an hour ad for the new club(s). Surely if TM is the only one on "No Crossfield Island" all by themselves someone in management might pick up on the fact that it might not be such a sound decision. And, as silly as this may sound, if TM were to suddenly have a change of mind AND Mark gave them a decent review it would actually net them even more attention and sales. Why/how? Because look at this thread! Dozens of honest and in some cases emotional replies and this isn't even a fraction of the attention TM might net if Mark gives a decent review.

[Nixhex524]

At least Mark can flip them here in the BST.. plenty of people in this thread will be willing to put that revolutionary tech to good use.

[Medic]

I think one of the things I really enjoy about his vlogs is the quality. He is obviously using top of the line cameras, the editing is spot on and he really tries to show the beauty of the courses he visits. Ends up being great ads for those courses. Never would have thought Iceland would be a bucket list place to visit but because of Mark's videos there it is now. Already have plans to head there!

[JonnyKrasnodar]

If you look at Rick's average carry distances recently (NOT total) it's only 274 or so. Given he's dreadful with mid irons I think MC would take him.

[Rutgersgolf]

Mark Crossfield posted a video on Christmas Day announcing he is now on staff with Titleist. Appeared to have a full Titleist bag beside him, couldn't tell which irons were in it. Bit surprising to me as he always seemed to be a Mizuno loyalist with the irons, driver and 3-wood have varied during the years I've been watching.

 

Glad for him, he puts out a ton of great content & hope this helps him generate more revenue. Hope he is correct that Titleist is not going to try & change him, but will let "me continue to be me."

 

Another Titleist homer haha I don't like the fact he ripped TM because they didn't give him product to test. I'm sorry how credible is he? I'd rather take Shiels opinion over MC he actually looks like a player.

 

Looks can be deceiving. I would put money on MC beating Shiels off the back tees of a championship course 9 times out of 10

 

And you would lose 90% of the time.

[Medic]

If you look at Rick's average carry distances recently (NOT total) it's only 274 or so. Given he's dreadful with mid irons I think MC would take him.

 

I seem to recall that they played together a couple of years ago and you are dead on. (Might be mistaken) I know Mark surgically reduced Buzza.

 

Mark doesn't make a ton of birdies but "Parfield" always seems to pull pars out of nowhere. His short game is just amazing.

[jonsnow]

I think one of the things I really enjoy about his vlogs is the quality. He is obviously using top of the line cameras, the editing is spot on and he really tries to show the beauty of the courses he visits. Ends up being great ads for those courses. Never would have thought Iceland would be a bucket list place to visit but because of Mark's videos there it is now. Already have plans to head there!

 

Totally agree. Those Iceland courses were absolutely breathtaking.

[The Mad Bomber]

I just pulled up a Crossfield video on his channel and what did I get as the pre video ad? I TwistFace advert lol! It's a great time to be alive kids.

[JonnyKrasnodar]

In other news Lockey looks like a plonker in the new Callaway advert.

[mahonie]

I just pulled up a Crossfield video on his channel and what did I get as the pre video ad? I TwistFace advert lol! It's a great time to be alive kids.

 

Twistfarce!

[Londoner]

Crossfield is a knob. We love a bit of banter but if he played with our group he would be buried in the wasteland next to the 3rd.

[Yellow Jacket]

Crossfield is a knob. We love a bit of banter but if he played with our group he would be buried in the wasteland next to the 3rd.

Pretty strong feelings about a Youtube club reviewer to want to murder him.

[Nixhex524]

Crossfield is a knob. We love a bit of banter but if he played with our group he would be buried in the wasteland next to the 3rd.

Pretty strong feelings about a Youtube club reviewer to want to murder him.

 

Yeah but while he's there, he can get the ball he just hit, too.

[Gary Gutful]

Crossfield is a knob. We love a bit of banter but if he played with our group he would be buried in the wasteland next to the 3rd.

Pretty strong feelings about a Youtube club reviewer to want to murder him.

Yes. He was actually 100% serious about burying him.

[North Butte]

Crossfield is a knob. We love a bit of banter but if he played with our group he would be buried in the wasteland next to the 3rd.

Pretty strong feelings about a Youtube club reviewer to want to murder him.

Yes. He was actually 100% serious about burying him.

 

Of course he is serious.

 

If he were joking he’d say, “A horse walks into s bar, bartender says why the long face...”

[Londoner]

Crossfield is a knob. We love a bit of banter but if he played with our group he would be buried in the wasteland next to the 3rd.

Pretty strong feelings about a Youtube club reviewer to want to murder him.

Wow. Just wow.

[Captain Morgan]

 

Crossfield is a knob. We love a bit of banter but if he played with our group he would be buried in the wasteland next to the 3rd.

Pretty strong feelings about a Youtube club reviewer to want to murder him.

Wow. Just wow.

 

Maybe he is a TaylorMade guy? Or just hates Titleist.

I like Mark. He has a wit about him. Videos are good. Sure sometimes I give certain things an eye roll but all videos have that. To each his own I guess. Nobody is forcing you to watch them. If you don’t like it turn the channel.

[Medic]

Crossfield is a knob. We love a bit of banter but if he played with our group he would be buried in the wasteland next to the 3rd.

Pretty strong feelings about a Youtube club reviewer to want to murder him.

Wow. Just wow.

 

Trouble is he is a Yank and doesn't understand the Brit lingo.

 

Having watched enough of the Brits on YT I understand completely. All you said he that you have the utmost respect for Mark and crew but he plays too slowly and you'd have to play through and leave him behind because for you it's all business out there on the links.

 

Glad to help.....

[BottleCap]

Crossfield is a knob. We love a bit of banter but if he played with our group he would be buried in the wasteland next to the 3rd.

Pretty strong feelings about a Youtube club reviewer to want to murder him.

Wow. Just wow.

 

Trouble is he is a Yank and doesn't understand the Brit lingo.

 

Having watched enough of the Brits on YT I understand completely. All you said he that you have the utmost respect for Mark and crew but he plays too slowly and you'd have to play through and leave him behind because for you it's all business out there on the links.

 

Glad to help.....

 

Is this golfwrx.co.uk ?

[Londoner]

Crossfield is a knob. We love a bit of banter but if he played with our group he would be buried in the wasteland next to the 3rd.

Pretty strong feelings about a Youtube club reviewer to want to murder him.

Wow. Just wow.

 

Trouble is he is a Yank and doesn't understand the Brit lingo.

 

Having watched enough of the Brits on YT I understand completely. All you said he that you have the utmost respect for Mark and crew but he plays too slowly and you'd have to play through and leave him behind because for you it's all business out there on the links.

 

Glad to help.....

Yes, thats exactly it. Thx. :good:

[Londoner]

Crossfield is a knob. We love a bit of banter but if he played with our group he would be buried in the wasteland next to the 3rd.

Pretty strong feelings about a Youtube club reviewer to want to murder him.

Wow. Just wow.

 

Trouble is he is a Yank and doesn't understand the Brit lingo.

 

Having watched enough of the Brits on YT I understand completely. All you said he that you have the utmost respect for Mark and crew but he plays too slowly and you'd have to play through and leave him behind because for you it's all business out there on the links.

 

Glad to help.....

 

Is this golfwrx.co.uk ?

Are you lost?

[Stanks]

That’s some powerful feeling said up there.

 

Those crazy golfers are crazy

[Holy Moses]

I finally watched the "TaylorMade Golf Hates Me" video and I'm going to go on record and say that I'm squarely in the Crossfield camp on this one. TM marketing is just flat out stupid and he's really the enemy of all their dumb claims (#262). The 17 more yards"ier" campaign was one of the most offensive marketing drives in the history of our sport, right on par with the claims that Jack Hamm and The Hammer made, and Mr. 262 just blows their ridiculous propaganda to pieces. And even AFTER this slight from TMag, he's still saying publicly that they make great clubs (which they do). I like Crossfield a little more than I did 20 minutes ago.

 

Is it pretty certain that Mark is going to still be able to get TaylorMade clubs to test as early as TaylorMade would have given him had TaylorMade not pulled out? If so, then it doesn't hurt TaylorMade to not give him clubs since they'll still be tested and now they are out in front of any bad reviews they might get. The other side of this debate is that now Mark might be a little tougher on TaylorMade in his testing.

[Double Gee]

Crossfield is a knob. We love a bit of banter but if he played with our group he would be buried in the wasteland next to the 3rd.

 

Then you wouldn't enjoy our Swindle's banter as we are giving it and taking it for the full 4hours.

I assume you play with 2 nuns and a priest?

[mukster]

Finally watched MC's "Taylormade hates me" video. Pretty straight forward and easily explained. Not sure why people deem his reply to be childish and "whiny". A lot of the comments here seem to be aimed at Mark, the person, which is unfortunate. If he chooses to cut through the bull, but viewers prefer to believe all the advertising hype we are fed daily, perhaps he isn't the YouTube viewer to watch.

 

He specifically says that they make good clubs and encourages people to go test them (and everything else) and get fit. If I had to choose between the honesty of Mark testing a TM M2 3 iron and Jason Day hitting it 295 yards in a TM television ad and exclaiming "that's ridiculous" or whatever the catch phrase is, I know who I'd choose :)

 

Also interesting that My Golf Spy's recent one word survey gave some interesting results. Unless Mark and/or Russia hacked these results, I believe that what he concludes is reflected by a large part of the surveyors that replied:

[Gary Gutful]

Finally watched MC's "Taylormade hates me" video. Pretty straight forward and easily explained.

It's not as simple or as ‘easily explained’ as you have suggested.

 

Not sure why people deem his reply to be childish and "whiny".

Really? I totally understand why people would see it as childish. Equally, I get why it doesn't bother some people.

 

A lot of the comments here seem to be aimed at Mark, the person, which is unfortunate. If he chooses to cut through the bull, but viewers prefer to believe all the advertising hype we are fed daily, perhaps he isn't the YouTube viewer to watch.

This comment doesn't make logical sense. People will watch or not watch Mark for a range of reasons. To suggest that people who don't like him have formed that position because they prefer to believe 'advertising hype' is quite ridiculous.

 

 

He specifically says that they make good clubs and encourages people to go test them (and everything else) and get fit. If I had to choose between the honesty of Mark testing a TM M2 3 iron and Jason Day hitting it 295 yards in a TM television ad and exclaiming "that's ridiculous" or whatever the catch phrase is, I know who I'd choose

In a world where we have endless sources of information, why would you assume it is a choice between one or the other?

 

Also interesting that My Golf Spy's recent one word survey gave some interesting results. Unless Mark and/or Russia hacked these results, I believe that what he concludes is reflected by a large part of the surveyors that replied:

You can be right about something and be humble or you can be right about something and be annoying.

 

Another way to look at the results of the survey are that his comments about TM are ‘blindingly obvious’ to a lot of people who play golf. Yes, TM lay it on thick with their advertising and in doing so can be accused of being ‘untruthful’. I think most people get that.

 

It’s quite possible that a number of the people who get this very fact may also be less than fond of Mark Crossfield.

 

In the words of Mark himself “Do you see what I am getting at?”.

[Gary Gutful]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

By the way, that's probably how Mark would post if he was on here