They have ruined the Swilcan Bridge at the Old Course

[TiScape]

Gives me hope for a pop-up Starbucks on 12 @ ANGC! Lol

[TiScape]

6 hours ago, imakaveli said:

 

LOL. That top pic with the patio furniture is exactly what I first envisioned! 

[Ex Blade User]

2 hours ago, BHI 99 said:

This. 
 

 

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Still not relevant to my question 

[bladehunter]

1 hour ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Here’s some heavy metal music for ya ; )

 

 

That’s what $2mil looks like jumping the streets of San Fran.   😂. Ford FE just lumbering along waiting for the chance to open it up on that dodge 

[TiScape]

21 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

That’s what $2mil looks like jumping the streets of San Fran.   😂. Ford FE just lumbering along waiting for the chance to open it up on that dodge 

Haha. At the time the movie was made closer to $3k. Just sold at auction for $3.7 million! 

[bladehunter]

3 minutes ago, TiScape said:

Haha. At the time the movie was made closer to $3k. Just sold at auction for $3.7 million! 

Oh yea. I was part of the thousands on the hunt for the one lost bullitt. That thing was urban legend for 25 years at least.  Along with lil red and the green hornet Shelby’s. Craig Jackson ended up owning all 3 I think. 

[TiScape]

Give me a Yenko or COPO Camaro any day of the week over a Mustang tho! Haha

[Trippels]

It looks fine

[Fuscinator]

I've always thought it could use a patio. Long overdue, in my opinion.

[Medson]

Mods probably will clean the thread up. The first 2 pages of the thread are entertaining, I’m not exactly sure what this page is about. 

[jordan2240]

Well, most shots would probably hide the new structure, but I'm glad I got there last May.

Edited February 6, 2023 by jordan2240

[Fairways_and_Greens]

On 2/4/2023 at 3:22 PM, bladehunter said:

😂 yep. But it’s done nothing but defile me , and allow me to defile others . 

 

if everyone didn’t have a camera in their pocket.  I’d bet the grass would grow there. It seemed to for a couple hundred years 
 

 

If Arnold Palmer didn't have a cell phone, they wouldn't have had to re-sod right?

 

It's almost as if the primary way across the burn acts as a choke point and makes traffic. Weird.

[TiScape]

5 hours ago, Medson said:

Mods probably will clean the thread up. The first 2 pages of the thread are entertaining, I’m not exactly sure what this page is about. 

Well if the mods clean up all the threads that take a little detour, then one couldn’t play one of the best games on WRX!… Jump straight into page 3 and try to guess the original subject! Lol

[bladehunter]

8 hours ago, Fairways_and_Greens said:

If Arnold Palmer didn't have a cell phone, they wouldn't have had to re-sod right?

 

It's almost as if the primary way across the burn acts as a choke point and makes traffic. Weird.

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Ok.  Let’s think all the way through this.  
 

 

before cell phones I do not believe most Tourists had camera crews following their groups like Arnold.  Maybe there would be a guy in the group with a cardboard Kodak , but I doubt highly that it was all groups or even most groups.  So now you have a 4 some doing the camera dance . They are at least upping the foot prints around the bridge  x4.  Each guy in the 4some will want a individual pic.   And then they’ll get a group pic.  That’s allot of in and out , on and off the bridge.  Have to get those likes man.  I’m simply saying I don’t believe that existed nearly  to this degree before say 1998.  But let’s argue your side and see how much sense it makes anyway . 
 

let’s say the camera thing is a non issue.  Ok.  Why does it make sense to extend the bridge ?  If it’s only foot traffic causing the wear at a choke point ,  as you say …… then won’t this simply move the wear out 30 feet to a new location ?  So the eye sore grows.  How is that a good thing ?  What kind of sense does it make ?  This isn’t reducing traffic. It’s just moving it’s start point.  
 

 

Edited February 6, 2023 by bladehunter

[Ignatius Reilly]

Can "they" wreck the Swilcan bridge?

 

IMO it's "their" bridge and it's on "their" course in the land where "they" invented the game and where "they" make the Rules of Golf.  Maybe it's "us" who are on the outside here.

 

As @Fairways_and_Greens said above, the bridge is a natural choke point for getting across the burn.  As golf got more popular and the planet got more crowded over time,  we got a whole lot more feet going on and off the bridge compared to most of its existence.

 

Spreading the area in which people can walk on/off the bridge will reduce wear and tear.  Just look at some of the old pictures where the grass is worn out:  It's pretty much the size and shape of the new "patio" and after that there's not much damage.

 

I don't like the look of it, hopefully it grows in well, but otherwise no big deal.

[Fairways_and_Greens]

1 hour ago, bladehunter said:

Ok.  Let’s think all the way through this.  
 

 

before cell phones I do not believe most Tourists had camera crews following their groups like Arnold.  Maybe there would be a guy in the group with a cardboard Kodak , but I doubt highly that it was all groups or even most groups.  So now you have a 4 some doing the camera dance . They are at least upping the foot prints around the bridge  x4.  Each guy in the 4some will want a individual pic.   And then they’ll get a group pic.  That’s allot of in and out , on and off the bridge.  Have to get those likes man.  I’m simply saying I don’t believe that existed nearly  to this degree before say 1998.  But let’s argue your side and see how much sense it makes anyway . 
 

let’s say the camera thing is a non issue.  Ok.  Why does it make sense to extend the bridge ?  If it’s only foot traffic causing the wear at a choke point ,  as you say …… then won’t this simply move the wear out 30 feet to a new location ?  So the eye sore grows.  How is that a good thing ?  What kind of sense does it make ?  This isn’t reducing traffic. It’s just moving it’s start point.  
 

 

What are you talking about? It’s clearly resodded in Arnie’s picture. This is a long time problem. They’ve tried astroturfing it in the past. Your phone take is pointless.

[bscinstnct]

1 hour ago, bladehunter said:

Ok.  Let’s think all the way through this.  
 

 

before cell phones I do not believe most Tourists had camera crews following their groups like Arnold.  Maybe there would be a guy in the group with a cardboard Kodak , but I doubt highly that it was all groups or even most groups.  So now you have a 4 some doing the camera dance . They are at least upping the foot prints around the bridge  x4.  Each guy in the 4some will want a individual pic.   And then they’ll get a group pic.  That’s allot of in and out , on and off the bridge.  Have to get those likes man.  I’m simply saying I don’t believe that existed nearly  to this degree before say 1998.  But let’s argue your side and see how much sense it makes anyway . 
 

let’s say the camera thing is a non issue.  Ok.  Why does it make sense to extend the bridge ?  If it’s only foot traffic causing the wear at a choke point ,  as you say …… then won’t this simply move the wear out 30 feet to a new location ?  So the eye sore grows.  How is that a good thing ?  What kind of sense does it make ?  This isn’t reducing traffic. It’s just moving it’s start point.  
 

 

 

Can’t imagine back in the day of going to bars/clubs and general mayhem and debauchery and you got everyone taking pictures!

 

 

As far as the bridge, that patio destroys the bridges entire provenance, if that’s the right word, and is abysmal.

 

Close it to to the public/tourist golfers, put in another bridge somewhere for them to use. 
 

Just use the bridge for the Open and other select events. 

[subrew]

From the headlines, I assumed the bridge put on a pair of wine-colored joggers.  But now I see they added a patio at the walkup/staging area.  

 

The humanity!

[Ferguson]

I am enjoying this thread.   

 

Regarding my past observations and comments here at WRX in terms of very extensive art collections, I wish to provide a little insight as to perhaps why the circular entry path and landing area  was chosen. 

 

Circle as a basic shape has always enchanted the human mind. Many mathematicians and philosophers considered it the most perfect of all geometric shapes, while theologians felt it supernatural or divine. For the artist, the mysterious circle was always a thing of beauty and a joy forever. For them, the mystery element combined with the aesthetic one, producing varied meanings in various semiotic conventions. Circles appear in paintings either as a circle themselves or as their derivatives such as the sun, the moon, and other stellar orbs, as wheels, sundials, clock faces, as domes, vaults, spiral stairs, circular paths and what not.

[gvogel]

On 2/5/2023 at 12:14 PM, BHI 99 said:

This. 
 

 

So?

[gvogel]

It was a mistake to use stone that appears to match the appearance of the bridge.  If they had used something else (small stones in concrete, or stamped concrete), it would have preserved the identity of the bridge.

 

As it is now, it is hideous.  And the residents of St Andrews don't seem to be happy about it either.

[Titleist99]

In a month or two, people will move on to the next outrage........

[bscinstnct]

37 minutes ago, Ferguson said:

I am enjoying this thread.   

 

Regarding my past observations and comments here at WRX in terms of very extensive art collections, I wish to provide a little insight as to perhaps why the circular entry path and landing area  was chosen. 

 

Circle as a basic shape has always enchanted the human mind. Many mathematicians and philosophers considered it the most perfect of all geometric shapes, while theologians felt it supernatural or divine. For the artist, the mysterious circle was always a thing of beauty and a joy forever. For them, the mystery element combined with the aesthetic one, producing varied meanings in various semiotic conventions. Circles appear in paintings either as a circle themselves or as their derivatives such as the sun, the moon, and other stellar orbs, as wheels, sundials, clock faces, as domes, vaults, spiral stairs, circular paths and what not.

Ya, they should crank this ubiquitous 80s club tune at the ribbon cutting ceremony!

 

 

[BHI 99]

They’d like to alleviate the mud hole, but obviously some don’t get it. 

[TiScape]

If they really wanted to ruin it they woulda put one of these on it! 

[lefty1978]

Looks good to me, they (hopefully) found a solution to a problem. If it doesn't work, they can remove it. The bridge has not been altered.

[ThinkingPlus]

4 minutes ago, lefty1978 said:

Looks good to me, they (hopefully) found a solution to a problem. If it doesn't work, they can remove it. The bridge has not been altered.

Quit being sensible. You'll ruin the thread. 😉

[bladehunter]

3 hours ago, Fairways_and_Greens said:

What are you talking about? It’s clearly resodded in Arnie’s picture. This is a long time problem. They’ve tried astroturfing it in the past. Your phone take is pointless.

So move the re sodding out 30 feet is your stance and goal ?  I’m simply pointing out that the re sodding obviously became a problem lately. Do we agree there ?  Do you know how often they did it in arnies day ?  Once a year. Every 3 ?  What made it finally come to a head ?  Think hard.  
 

and then I attack the solution to the new issue. Which is to move the re sodding problem out 30  ish feet .  This doesn’t cure the bald spot.  It moves it. 
 

ever been around cows ?  People are alot like them in this way.  They’ll follow other cows anywhere.  And they’ll do it on the same path religiously.   Every pasture of more than 2-3 years has a cow trail.  It’s about 20 inches wide at most.  And they all use it.  This is the same.  The issue is traffic volume and the rehearsed and repeated circular traffic at the bridge for pics.  

Edited February 6, 2023 by bladehunter

[jholz]

Very entertaining thread. Thank you WRX community. I really needed a chuckle today.

 

Way too many issues to parse out here. But for the record...

 

Visiting St. Andrews and taking a photo of yourself on the Swilcan Bridge is about the weakest move you can make. I mean, really, you need that to prove to yourself and others that you played St. Andrews. Honestly, no one else cares.

 

Just tell them you played the course and let them move on to the hor d'oeuvres. They will thank you for the favor.

 

At the end of the day, I'm thinking a replica Payne Stewart would do nicely in the middle of the new patio area. A nice non-sequitur to remind all of us about the daily absurdity of post-modern life...

 

Edited February 6, 2023 by jholz

[caniac6]

21 minutes ago, BHI 99 said:

They’d like to alleviate the mud hole, but obviously some don’t get it. 

Artificial turf