2019 Premium Ball Woes

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LUMALUMA I Am My Greatest DownfallSt. Johns / Jacksonville Florida 2374WRX Points: 135Members Posts: 2,374 Platinum Tees
Joined:  edited Mar 26, 2019 in Golf Balls #1

Still haven't locked in a ball yet.
2018 Chromesoft X : Like it, but spun too much into greens for me
2017 ProV1: Expensive to retire each round because they can cut easily
2017 ProV1X: Expensive and a little too clicky
2019 TP5: Like it, but scuffs very easily. I get 18 holes TOPS out of a ball
2019 TP5X: Little too hard around the greens
I would love a ball I could get at least 2 round out of. I feel that the older ProV's would allow for this.

Is Z-Star the next stop? I played them yeeears ago and they had a "dead heavy" feeling. Not sure if this has been addressed. I hear these are great and the covers are fantastic. I also have a sleeve of Tour BXS balls someone said I should try.

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Callaway Epic Sub Zero 9 deg / Aldila Rouge
Titleist 915 F 15 deg / Diamana 70
Callaway XR 19 deg Hybrid / Project X LZ S
Titleist 718 MB PW-4i / Project X 6.0 
Titleist Vokey SM5 50/54/58
Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5
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  • GSDriverGSDriver  782WRX Points: 152Handicap: 4Members Posts: 782 Golden Tee
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    Chrome Soft X (the 2018 model) is silly durable, and based of spin charts and the like, it's not the highest spinning ball out there, so maybe go with those and learn to not spin it as much, or play for it and hit it past the pin.

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    I agree with trying the Tour BXS

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  • RacineBoxerRacineBoxer  871WRX Points: 161Members Posts: 871 Golden Tee
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    I've played the zstar for several years now and one of the main reasons I didn't switch out from it the last time I compared some balls is the durability. I don't think zstar can be beat. As far as feeling "dead heavy"... never heard that one before. Like every other major manufacturer they have one ball that feels soft and one that feels firm, otherwise they spin and fly like everyone else's premium balls.

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  • MattM97MattM97  848WRX Points: 362Members Posts: 848 Golden Tee
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    I'd give the Z-Star and XV a try for sure especially the 2019 models with the reviews. The Z-Star line are quite durable, the fitter I go to uses them and I'm not seeing many issues with the balls there.

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    Hybrid: Ping G410 - 19° - Alta CB 70R
    Irons: Srixon Z585 - 4i to 7i - Z785 - 8i to PW - AMT Tour White S300
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  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYC 2077WRX Points: 252Handicap: ~8Members Posts: 2,077 Platinum Tees
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    If the Chrome Soft X spins too much, why not the regular Chrome Soft?

    Very durable and I really enjoy the ball, but it just can't keep up distance wise to the AVX and I don't need the extra spin.

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    I think all the srixons feel. That’s the perfect way to describe them

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  • cubanstogiecubanstogie  541WRX Points: 102Handicap: 3.8Members Posts: 541 Golden Tee
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    I used to consider myself a ball snob. Didn't matter which pro v, x, taylor made top ball, b330 whatever I could get the best deal on. A guy gave me a sleeve of Snell black and Im sold. I truly believe they are as good as any ball on the market for much cheaper.

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    On -, @cubanstogie said:

    I used to consider myself a ball snob. Didn't matter which pro v, x, taylor made top ball, b330 whatever I could get the best deal on. A guy gave me a sleeve of Snell black and Im sold. I truly believe they are as good as any ball on the market for much cheaper.

    What’s the price per ball out the door, taxes and tags included?

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  • WardonationWardonation  1549WRX Points: 175Handicap: +2.8Members Posts: 1,549 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @LUMA said:

    Still haven't locked in a ball yet.
    2018 Chromesoft X : Like it, but spun too much into greens for me
    2017 ProV1: Expensive to retire each round because they can cut easily
    2017 ProV1X: Expensive and a little too clicky
    2019 TP5: Like it, but scuffs very easily. I get 18 holes TOPS out of a ball
    2019 TP5X: Little too hard around the greens
    I would love a ball I could get at least 2 round out of. I feel that the older ProV's would allow for this.

    Is Z-Star the next stop? I played them yeeears ago and they had a "dead heavy" feeling. Not sure if this has been addressed. I hear these are great and the covers are fantastic. I also have a sleeve of Tour BXS balls someone said I should try.

    Z Star XV is the best ball I have ever played hands down. SOdter than the rest checks more around the greens than ProVX, cuts the wind better than provX. I am sold....

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    On -, @BB28403 said:

    On -, @cubanstogie said:

    I used to consider myself a ball snob. Didn't matter which pro v, x, taylor made top ball, b330 whatever I could get the best deal on. A guy gave me a sleeve of Snell black and Im sold. I truly believe they are as good as any ball on the market for much cheaper.

    What’s the price per ball out the door, taxes and tags included?

    I just bought 5 dozen for 139.00 that was shipping and tax. about 6 months ago I think I got a better deal with a special they had going on. It works out to about $2.30 a ball.

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    On -, @cubanstogie said:

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    On -, @cubanstogie said:

    I used to consider myself a ball snob. Didn't matter which pro v, x, taylor made top ball, b330 whatever I could get the best deal on. A guy gave me a sleeve of Snell black and Im sold. I truly believe they are as good as any ball on the market for much cheaper.

    What’s the price per ball out the door, taxes and tags included?

    I just bought 5 dozen for 139.00 that was shipping and tax. about 6 months ago I think I got a better deal with a special they had going on. It works out to about $2.30 a ball.

    Not bad!!

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  • dinchmandinchman  23WRX Points: 58Members Posts: 23 Bunkers
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    My course is selling Srixon Z stars for $10 a six pack. Some special they have going on. At that price why buy Cut, Kirkland, Snell , Or Vice? I didn’t find any of them to much better.

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    On -, @BB28403 said:

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    On -, @cubanstogie said:

    I used to consider myself a ball snob. Didn't matter which pro v, x, taylor made top ball, b330 whatever I could get the best deal on. A guy gave me a sleeve of Snell black and Im sold. I truly believe they are as good as any ball on the market for much cheaper.

    What’s the price per ball out the door, taxes and tags included?

    I just bought 5 dozen for 139.00 that was shipping and tax. about 6 months ago I think I got a better deal with a special they had going on. It works out to about $2.30 a ball.

    Not bad!!

    I just bought 2 dozen for $60 including shipping and everything.

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  • elwhippyelwhippy  3372WRX Points: 333Members Posts: 3,372 Titanium Tees
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    Dare I ask how you demolish a ball after one round? I have clean grooves, a steep angle of attack, brand new wedges and a penchant for visiting bunkers and hitting lumber and get annoyed if I don't get three competitive rounds out of a ball. In the last month I have trialled the Volvik Vibe and B-XS and neither showed any signs of wear after 36 holes.

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    On -, @mogc60 said:

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    On -, @cubanstogie said:

    I used to consider myself a ball snob. Didn't matter which pro v, x, taylor made top ball, b330 whatever I could get the best deal on. A guy gave me a sleeve of Snell black and Im sold. I truly believe they are as good as any ball on the market for much cheaper.

    What’s the price per ball out the door, taxes and tags included?

    I just bought 5 dozen for 139.00 that was shipping and tax. about 6 months ago I think I got a better deal with a special they had going on. It works out to about $2.30 a ball.

    Not bad!!

    I just bought 2 dozen for $60 including shipping and everything.

    Nice! I hope Dean gives you a handwritten note. I hear he does sometimes

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    Speaking of Woes, Rickie Fowler seems to be struggling with the TP5X not spinning enough. He even changed out shafts to try to ADD spin to the ball. WOW. that is interesting.

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    The new Mizuno Tour ball is really nice. Id give it a shot. feels great and flies just like every other ball out there. I shot 78 with it last weekend. feels great off all clubs including the putter.....does what every other ball out there does. Unless you are a super low HDCP, most balls do the same thing for you. The Wilson is a nice low cost option.....my 2 fav balls are the chromesoft and mizuno.

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  • RacineBoxerRacineBoxer  871WRX Points: 161Members Posts: 871 Golden Tee
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    On -, @BB28403 said:

    Speaking of Woes, Rickie Fowler seems to be struggling with the TP5X not spinning enough. He even changed out shafts to try to ADD spin to the ball. WOW. that is interesting.

    Perhaps an overstatement to say "struggling". He obviously won with the TP5X. He said he still loves the ball. The Cobra tour rep (I assume that is where the info came from) said the shaft change added "a couple hundred rpms". I would expect the TP5/TP5X to be well represented in the top 20 this weekend (and FWIW I don't play the TP5/TP5X).

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  • StanksStanks Everything I post is confrontational  1713WRX Points: 240Handicap: ?Members Posts: 1,713 Platinum Tees
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    Yeah those ctapers make some knuckleballs especially with the 5x. I would’ve tried to go TP5 Vice a shaft change but, I’m sure rickie has tried that.

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  • Hat TrickHat Trick  572WRX Points: 77Members Posts: 572 Golden Tee
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    I went through what you described. But after 3 rounds in the south (finally after being stuck in the north) I am back to the Pro V1X. It goes as long as the others, spins great and holds greens for me (driver SS 96-98 mph). I find it to as durable as the others - very simply it works for me.
    What I noticed about the firmness/clickiness you mention is that after playing a couple of rounds I didn't notice it anymore.
    Plus at $36 a dozen (buy 3, get 4th free deal) the price is good enough for me.

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  • awtryau89awtryau89 Hoschton, GA 1367WRX Points: 213Members, ClubWRX Posts: 1,367 ClubWRX
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    Been playing 2 generation old Z Star XVs for a while and finally got down to 1 dz. Skipped the 2017 model. I went all in on the new 2019 in the perf packs and have 7 dz. The new 2019 XV is softer feeling off the putter but the durability is less than previous generations. I would say its worth it because the old balls were pretty clicky feeling on the putter and short shots. The 2019 has remedies that for sure, probably spins a bit better on short shots, nice high launch and is the best wind ball right up there with the TP5x.

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    On -, @RacineBoxer said:

    I've played the zstar for several years now and one of the main reasons I didn't switch out from it the last time I compared some balls is the durability. I don't think zstar can be beat. As far as feeling "dead heavy"... never heard that one before. Like every other major manufacturer they have one ball that feels soft and one that feels firm, otherwise they spin and fly like everyone else's premium balls.

    I found the ZStar to have that "dead heavy" sensation as well. I am consistently half a club to a club short with my irons with that ball. Head to head against CS, ProV1, FG Tour, TP5 and BStone RXS. First couple of times out I noticed it so I played 2 balls for 9 one afternoon, it proved out.

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  • LondonerLondoner  1476WRX Points: 279Handicap: 10Members Posts: 1,476 Platinum Tees
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    Wilson FG Tour. Great balls (for me anyway)

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  • cpeckcpeck North new jersey 598WRX Points: 284Handicap: leftyMembers Posts: 598 Golden Tee
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    really really liking the Tour B xs

    On -, @LUMA did you get around to trying it.
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    I'll play anything that says Titleist on it.

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  • Whiskey_fireWhiskey_fire  1061WRX Points: 179Members Posts: 1,061 Platinum Tees
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    I’ve currently narrowed it down to the B x and the Pro v1 Like both balls but I’m biased towards Titleist so that may be the deciding factor.

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    On -, @elwhippy said:

    Dare I ask how you demolish a ball after one round? I have clean grooves, a steep angle of attack, brand new wedges and a penchant for visiting bunkers and hitting lumber and get annoyed if I don't get three competitive rounds out of a ball. In the last month I have trialled the Volvik Vibe and B-XS and neither showed any signs of wear after 36 holes.

    Not speaking for the OP but I have the same issues with the ball I play, prov1. I can only get a round out of them before the cover marks annoy me. I’m a +2 , 160s ball speed off driver so I hit a lot of wedges into holes. Very high spin and even after one hole I can start to see the fuzz on the cover of a 2018 Pro V1. I rarely lose balls, I retire them after each round into my shag bag. I’m just very visually bothered by the paint chipping on the covers, I’m sure it doesn’t affect performance though.

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  • StanksStanks Everything I post is confrontational  1713WRX Points: 240Handicap: ?Members Posts: 1,713 Platinum Tees
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    Guy, Tiger likes Bridgestone. Go with Bridgestone. Be like Tiger. Go out there and roar. The 2019 balls are all great and you're not a Tour Pro (like Tiger) so I'm thinking you're being a hair too critical in your perception. But, it is your money and it is your game, so, far be it for me to even comment.
    Cut 2019 models look good, too. But, I play off 18 so, what do I know?

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