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TXG Bracket results: How fast is the Mavrik!?

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jadedennilljadedennill Members  299WRX Points: 98Posts: 299 Greens
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Is everyone finding the ball speed off the standard Mavrik to be really quick? He was 4mph faster that the Speed Zone X. Different shafts I know, but the Mavrik was that much faster in each of its comps. Just curious about other's results

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  • tomg1969tomg1969 Members  2077WRX Points: 172Posts: 2,077 Platinum Tees
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    I have a Mavrik Subzero and while I think it’s a very good driver, I don’t think it’s significantly faster that the G410 LST or the SIM.....

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  • greenwavegolfergreenwavegolfer Members  246WRX Points: 111Handicap: 2.7Posts: 246 Fairways
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    I really want to see Matt test the Mavrik against his G410 LST. I feel like his swing was off the day the Cobra beat the Ping (not that it's not also a good club) and the Ping probably would've won 8 or 9 out of 10 matchups and the Cobra just caught the 1 or 2 in that session. But the Mavrik seems to be a **** of a club, especially with his average ball speed over 180 in the finals.

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    WITB:

    Ping G400 LST 10º (Playing 9º) Accra TZ5 65 M4
    Ping G410 LST 3W (14.5° standard setting) VA Nemesys 75 Four (Tipped 1")
    Titleist T-MB 2i (17º) Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 95X (swap 2i and 3W in and out)
    Srixon Z-785 3i/4i Nippon Modus Tour 120X
    Srixon Z-Forged 5i-PW Nippon Modus Tour 120X
    Cleveland RTX4 Black Stealth 50º, 54º Nippon Modus Tour 120X, 60º Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    Scotty Cameron Special Select Squareback
  • halfsumohalfsumo Members  862WRX Points: 202Posts: 862 Golden Tee
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    I have standard Mav, coming from G410+. The G410 is about as good as I could get performance wise. Just wanted to try something new. The Mav really surprised me in that it is not a high moi design but it is super consistent and forgiving. Love the shape, and the gloss fade to carbon look. I can’t say for sure if it is any better performance than the ping but it is certainly right there with it. And the sound/feel is very solid and rich, and I just really enjoy hitting it. I sold the ping head but kept the shaft in case ping decides to release something new in a few months. That said, I thought the Mavrik line was going to be just a re-skin of the Rogue, but I was surprised hitting it in the store how much I enjoyed it and had a really good honeymoon round with it outdoors before the shutdown.

    As far as other heads go. It was a toss up between Mavrik and SIM Max. I did not like the look of any of the Cobra’s. I do think, in my opinion the Mizuno is the best looking at address. Can’t really go wrong this year, though.

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    Mavrik TripleD 9* Tensei Pro White 60tx
    TS3 15*  Tensei Pro White 70tx
    PXG gen 2 17* Fuji Pro 2.0 85x
    PING G410 hybrid *22 Accra TZ5 95 M4
    PING i210 5-PW MMT 105tx
    PING Glide 3.0 50, 56ss
    Vokey SM7 60 S grind
    Newport 2 
  • TigerInTheWoodsTigerInTheWoods Members  2715WRX Points: 1,704Handicap: 3Posts: 2,715 Titanium Tees
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    It's quick but it's all about fit. I did not get faster ball speeds with it over my TS3 and it spun quite a bit. LST and TS3 were way better for me but it's a good driver. Don't just assume that your ball speed will go up. Fitting is key and improving your swing will gain you more than any driver change.

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    ▪️ Ping G410 LST 9* PX Hzrdus Yellow 63g 6.5X

    ▪️ Taylormade Sim Max 15* Aldila Rogue 70x

    ▪️ Titleist 818 H1 @18* PX Hzrdus HC Black 85g

    ▪️ Miura CB-57 4-7, Miura MB-001 8-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

    ▪️ Vokey Forged 52F 56M | Vokey TVD 56M 58K 60K | Taylormade Hi-Toe 60ATV | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 (Change based on bag and course)

    ▪️ Byron Morgan DH89 34.75" Custom

    ▪️ Titleist Pro V1X | Srixon Z-Star XV | Taylormade TP5X

    ▪️ Ping Hoofer

  • Man_O_WarMan_O_War Members  3733WRX Points: 722Posts: 3,733 Titanium Tees
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    i bet he is longer than all of them with his Ping g400 lst

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    SIM 10.5 Ozik F6M2/Ozik TP6HD
    Cobra LTD PRO 
    EVO III FUJI/ Graffaloy Blue
    Cobra F9 Avalanche 3/4 Atmos 7
    Cobra F9 Avalanche 5/6 Atmos 7
    Adams XTD TI Hybrid 21-23*
    Ping iBlade 3-pw DG XP S300/Original Nike Blades 3-PW s300
    RTX 3.0 50, 54, 58 Modus 120
    SC Newport 2.6
    TM Spider DJ Sightline Black Tour Spider 

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  • jvincentjvincent Members  1724WRX Points: 984Posts: 1,724 Platinum Tees
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    I thought he said at the end of the video that he would be putting the Mavrik in the bag once they fine tune the fit.

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    Cobra SZ 9* : Tour AD TP 7-S
    Cobra F9 Tour 4W : Tour AD TP 8-S
    Cobra ForgedTec 3-iron : Nippon Modus3 105-S
    Srixon Z785 4-PW : Nippon Modus3 120-S
    Cleveland RTX3 50, 54, 58 : Nippon 115-S Wedge
    Piretti Potenza 370g : Breakthrough Technology Stability Shaft - 34"

  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX  11730WRX Points: 1,441Handicap: 7Posts: 11,730 ClubWRX
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    That is what I am saying, it won the test for him. In the Mavrik vs SIM thread an d mentioned here, everyone claiming a bogus test, or Matt was more accurate with x driver, or he had the wrong shaft in the SIM

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    GBB Ventus Black 6
    F9 Tour 3w-Ventus black 7
    F9 Tour 5w-Smoke 70
    F9 21* hybrid - ATMOS black 
    Mavrik Pro 5-A TT Elevate 
    MD5 53/58
    Toulon Portland Garage 
    TM TP5X 
  • getitdailygetitdaily Members  3809WRX Points: 716Handicap: +.5Posts: 3,809 Titanium Tees
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    The mavrik line is very good. I didn't test the max at all and only hit a few balls with the standard because, like most higher moi heads, I spin it too much. I tested the mavrik sz a bunch when I tested sim and sim max. Mav sz had about 1mph better ballspeed, consistently.

    I ended up in regular sim because the numbers were really close to mav sz and i believe in movable weight tech for draw/fade tuning. Mav sz also had 3 balls miss hard left out of about 12-15 where sim and sim max had none. I'm a fader so a hard left miss (or left miss in general) is not good if the miss is somewhat frequent.

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  • BridgesBridges Members  115WRX Points: 73Handicap: 15Posts: 115 Fairways
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    The cyclone shape of the standard Mavrik is for real. I would bet his club head speed is higher with the Mavrik and that is why his ball speed is higher as well. 361 yards before they fine tune it. WOW!!

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  • TigerInTheWoodsTigerInTheWoods Members  2715WRX Points: 1,704Handicap: 3Posts: 2,715 Titanium Tees
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    ▪️ Ping G410 LST 9* PX Hzrdus Yellow 63g 6.5X

    ▪️ Taylormade Sim Max 15* Aldila Rogue 70x

    ▪️ Titleist 818 H1 @18* PX Hzrdus HC Black 85g

    ▪️ Miura CB-57 4-7, Miura MB-001 8-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

    ▪️ Vokey Forged 52F 56M | Vokey TVD 56M 58K 60K | Taylormade Hi-Toe 60ATV | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 (Change based on bag and course)

    ▪️ Byron Morgan DH89 34.75" Custom

    ▪️ Titleist Pro V1X | Srixon Z-Star XV | Taylormade TP5X

    ▪️ Ping Hoofer

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  • BridgesBridges Members  115WRX Points: 73Handicap: 15Posts: 115 Fairways
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    No, it was the 2-3 mph increase in my swing speed.

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  • erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHMembers  4190WRX Points: 257Handicap: 10.5Posts: 4,190 Titanium Tees
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    Where did they post how many shots it took to get 10 good ones ? I watched the video and didn’t see anything there.

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    Cobra Speedzone Xtreme 

    Callaway Epic Flash 7w

    Exotics Xrail  4h | 5h

    Cobra  T-Rail 6-SW

    Cleveland CBX 60* 

    Callaway Sure Out 64*

    Exotics Wingman 01

    Titleist ProV1x Yellow

    Handicap: 9.2


  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members  9791WRX Points: 1,672Posts: 9,791 Titanium Tees
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    The driver isn't necessarily poor.... You saw the video where he missed fairway.... How can you blame the driver when he hits the ball 20mm toe side with a face 20deg shut to path?? Misses are a mixture of head design, shaft dynamics and player performance... And they are all interlinked.

    Reserve judgements until after they fine tune his fit. Txg is forced to test the way they test because A) time and B) they aren't data scientists or statisticians. If you go get fit almost anywhere... The fitter will toss out your really bad strikes. It's just how it's done.

    If you're dying to see more robust data, then go to the 2020 M.g.s. Results.

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    D - SIM Max 9* Ventus Black 6x
    4w - SIM Ti Diamana B 80x
    5w - Speedzone FX 2.0 380 or Speedzone 4i Modus 105x
    Irons - P760 4-PW | Modus 120x
    Glide 3.0 50/54/58 S400 Tour Issue
    Spider X or Huntington Beach #1 or Toulon San Diego
    Ball - BXS


  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10855WRX Points: 3,966Handicap: 8Posts: 10,855 ClubWRX
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    Everyone is different. While I think they juiced the Mav for the finals and watching him hit it I think it would be rather unplayable in real life conditions it was fit for Matt. Not everyone will get the same results.


    Here are mine, not a lot different. Slightly high ball speeds with the sim, and slightly less curve.


    SIM

    Mav Sub Zero.


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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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  • lakecowboylakecowboy Edmond, OKMembers, Paid BST  459WRX Points: 244Handicap: 9Posts: 459 Greens
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    Because there are a bunch of fanboys on here who are wannabe staffers.

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    • PXG Proto 0811 X 9* - Graphite Design Tour AD GP7x +1/2"
    • Taylormade SIM Rocket 14* - Graphite Design Tour AD GP6s
    • PXG 0317X 17* - Fuji PRO 2.0 8HB Stiff (pulled from the bag for 3i typically)
    • PXG Gen 2 0311P 3-4 - KBS C-Taper Lite 115g X-Stiff +1"
    • PXG Gen 3 0311T 5-GW - KBS C-Taper Lite 115g X-Stiff +1"
    • PXG Forged 54 - KBS C-Taper Lite 115g X-Stiff +1", PXG Sugar Daddy 58 - KBS C-Taper Lite 115g X-Stiff +1"
    • Taylormade MySpider X - 36.00" 3* Loft 71* Lie
  • getitdailygetitdaily Members  3809WRX Points: 716Handicap: +.5Posts: 3,809 Titanium Tees
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    Shot counter in the videos. Only shots kept are shown in the videos.

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  • halfsumohalfsumo Members  862WRX Points: 202Posts: 862 Golden Tee
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    I think it’s worth mentioning again. Standard Mavrik is NOT a high MOI design. It’s a non traditional ‘forgiving’ driver that may just work for a lot of people. Also, if the upright lie angle bothers you like Ian said it bothered him, you can get one of the Callaway adapters that have a flat setting.

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    Mavrik TripleD 9* Tensei Pro White 60tx
    TS3 15*  Tensei Pro White 70tx
    PXG gen 2 17* Fuji Pro 2.0 85x
    PING G410 hybrid *22 Accra TZ5 95 M4
    PING i210 5-PW MMT 105tx
    PING Glide 3.0 50, 56ss
    Vokey SM7 60 S grind
    Newport 2 
  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10855WRX Points: 3,966Handicap: 8Posts: 10,855 ClubWRX
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    Everyone wants validation. That is nothing new, but saying people are wanna be staffers or fanboys is a bit of a troll. There is not a single golfer that is not a bit tied to a brand. We are lying to ourselves and others if we do not admit that. Also, is there anyone here that would not want to be a staffer of some kind? Lets be honest here.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • MattM97MattM97 Members  1610WRX Points: 699Posts: 1,610 Platinum Tees
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    This test is more fun than anything else

    Cause guys want quick fixes, like is it that much harder to go get a fitting and find the perfect driver vs buying and trying several in a season?


    I know if I "fit myself" I wouldn't be as consistent as I am now with my driver.

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    WITB - Lefty
    Driver: Ping G410 Plus - 9° Draw - Tour 65S
    Fariway: Ping G410 LST - 13.5° - Aldila 2KXV Green 75X
    Hybrid: Ping G410 - 19° - Tensei CK Orange Pro 90TX
    Irons: Srixon Z585 - 4i to 7i - Z785 - 8i to PW - AMT Tour White S300
    Wedges: Callaway MD3 51° - Callaway MD4 Raw 56° - Callaway PM19 60°
    Putter Rotation: Edel E-3 - TP Mills Handmade Trad II SIK Tour Proto - and many more.
    Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
    Bag: Ping Pioneer 

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  • getitdailygetitdaily Members  3809WRX Points: 716Handicap: +.5Posts: 3,809 Titanium Tees
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    Yeah, poor choice in words on my part. The driver is not poor. But it appears that the sim family handles Matt's poor swings much better...

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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky Members  2867WRX Points: 1,017Posts: 2,867 Titanium Tees
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    I need to watch the final. What was the reason for adding tape to the mavrik in the finals? He was “fit” for everything prior to the brackets so why change?

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  • Cruisin1966Cruisin1966 Calgary, ABClubWRX  1165WRX Points: 340Handicap: 7.1Posts: 1,165 ClubWRX
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    **Gamer Bag**
    Driver: Taylormade SIM Max @ 8º (9.5) w/ Fujikura Motore X F3 6S
    Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16.5º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 75S
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H2 @ 20º w/ Atmos Blue HB TS 8S
    Irons: Miura 4-6 (TC-201), 7-PW (MB-101) w/ Mitsubishi MMT 105TX (ss*1)
    Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º
    Putter: Artisan 0117

    **Retro Bag**
    Driver: Ping G LS Tec 9º
    Fairway: Titleist 915F 3W 15º
    Hybrid: Cobra Baffler Pro 2H 18º
    Irons: Taylormade RAC Forged TP CB 3-PW
    Wedges: Wilson Staff FG Tour PMP 52º; Nike VR Pro Forged Brushed Oxide Raw 58º
    Putter: Cleveland Huntington Beach 1

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    So why not make that change at the beginning and not several rounds later?

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  • Cruisin1966Cruisin1966 Calgary, ABClubWRX  1165WRX Points: 340Handicap: 7.1Posts: 1,165 ClubWRX
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    Can't say. They may have neglected to mention it until the lead into the final. Or, they didn't measure before and because of the inconsistency, decided to try and remedy it.

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    **Gamer Bag**
    Driver: Taylormade SIM Max @ 8º (9.5) w/ Fujikura Motore X F3 6S
    Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16.5º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 75S
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H2 @ 20º w/ Atmos Blue HB TS 8S
    Irons: Miura 4-6 (TC-201), 7-PW (MB-101) w/ Mitsubishi MMT 105TX (ss*1)
    Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º
    Putter: Artisan 0117

    **Retro Bag**
    Driver: Ping G LS Tec 9º
    Fairway: Titleist 915F 3W 15º
    Hybrid: Cobra Baffler Pro 2H 18º
    Irons: Taylormade RAC Forged TP CB 3-PW
    Wedges: Wilson Staff FG Tour PMP 52º; Nike VR Pro Forged Brushed Oxide Raw 58º
    Putter: Cleveland Huntington Beach 1

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10855WRX Points: 3,966Handicap: 8Posts: 10,855 ClubWRX
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    From watching lots of TXG videos, I would say that Matt swings drivers with a heavier head a bit better, so it was a fitting adjustment and a better fit. I think the extreme is standard a few grams heavier than the mav so that also makes them a bit more equal fit. Also, heavier head will almost universally yield higher ball speeds if the contact is good. So, I cannot say for sure but I would speculate that they saw that the Mav had more potential if they added weight to the head and wanted to put on a bit of a show. The even say "we don't care" to pre-answer the questions as to why they did it.


    As @getitdaily said, you can see that they needed more swings for qualified shots with the mav. So will there is greater distance it looks like it took either more swing to adjust to. They mention in the video that the allowed for that. So that could explain the higher shot count. Or there were more swings to get the same number of qualified shots.

    Only they know for sure. In the end it is a fun video. I like they they used a fairway to hit down.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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    I'd like to see them back on the range, take 10 straight shots (after say 5 warm ups?) and show us the numbers the driver produces offline and on mishits. That's how I actually play golf, I don't get to throw out the worst drives. I also understand they are showing us what the drivers are capable of (even though they fit MAV to be low low spin and SIM to spin more).

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    SIM 8* Ventus Black 6X
    G410 LST  HZRDUS Smoke Hulk 6.5TX 60g 
    Epic Flash SZ 15* Tensei PW 80TX
    2-PW Ping Blueprint DG X7
    55* SM8 Raw
    61* SM8 Raw
    L.A.B 2.1 

  • kmay__kmay__ niagara, ontario, canada. Members  576WRX Points: 359Posts: 576 Golden Tee
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    I would wager a guess that this also isn't Matty's game swing. I would think he backs off it a touch while playing to dial in and avoid the big misses. Which again is why if hes going to game this club, there going to re-fit him to it to make it a gameable club. This was just an all out shootout, let er rip, delete the bad ones and see who comes out on top. They say right from the beginning and over and over, this is for fun, its a shootout, its Matty's results, its not prescribing the best club for anyone else. And of course they knew from the outset there was gonna be people griping about this or that, just watch it and enjoy. Then go get fit yourself and play whats best for YOU. The usual.

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    Callaway Rogue 10.5*
    Cobra Baffler 16*
    PING G30 4h 22*
    TM R11 5-PW (Mizuno MP-4 for fun)
    Mizuno MP-T5 50*, 54*
    PM Grind 60*
    Cleveland HB #6 center shaft 
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  • getitdailygetitdaily Members  3809WRX Points: 716Handicap: +.5Posts: 3,809 Titanium Tees
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    I think @Z1ggy16 said it well in another thread, we may be able to assume that mavrik doesn't deal with Matt's off center strikes as well as some others. Doesn't mean it's a bad driver (it's actually really good). But it does say something about playability for matt. I'd be really surprised if he games it...tbh.

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