The 2018 Ryder Cup at Le Golf National (MERGED)

[NoodleSalad]

Anyone else underwhelmed with the team that TGC sent over there? Are we really going to hear Cara say "Bonjour!" after every commercial break? Yuck!

 

She's horrible. I keep dreaming she's going to say adieu and I never have to see her again.

[st8kdinr]

I totally agree with Phil and foursomes, not going to happen. I thought I saw where DJ and Koepka felt they didn't play well together at Hazeltine and may be better in different groups although they're buddies. I'd like to see:

 

Fourballs: Reed/Spieth, Tiger/JT, DJ/Finau, Mick/BAD

Fousomes: Reed/Spieth, Fowler/Koepka, DJ/Finau, BAD/Webb

 

I don't see Tiger and Phil playing both morning and afternoon on Friday.

[King_Slender]

These were the USA's groups this morning, so I think pairings are shaping up:

 

Reed, Spieth, JT, Tiger

 

DC, Phil, Webb, Bubba

 

Finau, Fowler, DJ, Koepka

 

So I'm thinking these are the Friday pairings:

 

Fourballs: Reed/Spieth, Tiger/Bryson, Webb/Bubba, Koepka/DJ

Foursomes: Reed/Spieth, JT/Tiger, Finau/Fowler, Phil/Bryson (I can't believe I'm throwing that pair out, but have to play Phil somewhere)

Phil is not...I repeat IS NOT playing Foursomes. Furyk may be his BFF but anyone with half a brain knows better than to let that guy play alternate shot.

 

I'm tempted to start a new thread: "Which would you rather have as your foursomes partner, Phil or a 4-Handicap?"

 

I agree, but consider my other thread - Do you want Phil hitting 14 tee balls (excluding Par 3's) or 6 - 2 of which he can hit iron off the tee?

[cvhookem63]

It is looking like

 

Reed/Tiger (Reed using a Bridgestone ball today)

Spieth/JT

Phil/Bryson

Rickie/DJ

Finau/Koepka (bombs away)

Webb/Bubba

[cvhookem63]

Phil using a Bridgestone Tour B X (Bryson's Ball)

 

[tbowles411]

It is looking like

 

Reed/Tiger (Reed using a Bridgestone ball today) - Makes sense. Playing with his hero and he plays better when he's with him, at least that's what I've seen.

Spieth/JT - Length and accuracy will hopefully balance out a guy who's struggling on the greens

Phil/Bryson - Good way to get the rook acclimated to the RC.

Rickie/DJ - Not sure how I think about this one...

Finau/Koepka (bombs away) - Agreed. It's going to be an airshow.

Webb/Bubba - Good buddies and just a safe pairing.

At least these are my opinions... :)

[ebrasmus21]

These were the USA's groups this morning, so I think pairings are shaping up:

 

Reed, Spieth, JT, Tiger

 

DC, Phil, Webb, Bubba

 

Finau, Fowler, DJ, Koepka

 

So I'm thinking these are the Friday pairings:

 

Fourballs: Reed/Spieth, Tiger/Bryson, Webb/Bubba, Koepka/DJ

Foursomes: Reed/Spieth, JT/Tiger, Finau/Fowler, Phil/Bryson (I can't believe I'm throwing that pair out, but have to play Phil somewhere)

Phil is not...I repeat IS NOT playing Foursomes. Furyk may be his BFF but anyone with half a brain knows better than to let that guy play alternate shot.

 

I'm tempted to start a new thread: "Which would you rather have as your foursomes partner, Phil or a 4-Handicap?"

 

Well, Phil's index is still a +6.1. Just saying ;)

[cvhookem63]

It is looking like

 

Reed/Tiger (Reed using a Bridgestone ball today) - Makes sense. Playing with his hero and he plays better when he's with him, at least that's what I've seen.

Spieth/JT - Length and accuracy will hopefully balance out a guy who's struggling on the greens

Phil/Bryson - Good way to get the rook acclimated to the RC.

Rickie/DJ - Not sure how I think about this one...

Finau/Koepka (bombs away) - Agreed. It's going to be an airshow.

Webb/Bubba - Good buddies and just a safe pairing.

At least these are my opinions... :)

 

These are pretty spot on IMO

 

Fowler was paired with Jimmy Walker each round in 2014 and they went 0-1-3, then Rory beat him in singles. He did not have a great showing. I like pairing him with DJ this time around. Rickie's putting has been considered above average, but DJ was 10 spots above him in SG Putting this season (30 and 40)

[Warrick]

How were the Euros out today, same groups as yesterday?

[GMR]

These were the USA's groups this morning, so I think pairings are shaping up:

 

Reed, Spieth, JT, Tiger

 

DC, Phil, Webb, Bubba

 

Finau, Fowler, DJ, Koepka

 

So I'm thinking these are the Friday pairings:

 

Fourballs: Reed/Spieth, Tiger/Bryson, Webb/Bubba, Koepka/DJ

Foursomes: Reed/Spieth, JT/Tiger, Finau/Fowler, Phil/Bryson (I can't believe I'm throwing that pair out, but have to play Phil somewhere)

Phil is not...I repeat IS NOT playing Foursomes. Furyk may be his BFF but anyone with half a brain knows better than to let that guy play alternate shot.

 

I'm tempted to start a new thread: "Which would you rather have as your foursomes partner, Phil or a 4-Handicap?"

 

Well, Phil's index is still a +6.1. Just saying ;)

There's a lot of different ways to play this game. He's found a way to work around his notable weaknesses. Problem is when you put another poor individual in his boots, that guy unfortunately won't have developed the godly recovery and short game skills to play Phil's game (unless that person happens to be Tiger, but still a terrible idea).

[ebrasmus21]

These were the USA's groups this morning, so I think pairings are shaping up:

 

Reed, Spieth, JT, Tiger

 

DC, Phil, Webb, Bubba

 

Finau, Fowler, DJ, Koepka

 

So I'm thinking these are the Friday pairings:

 

Fourballs: Reed/Spieth, Tiger/Bryson, Webb/Bubba, Koepka/DJ

Foursomes: Reed/Spieth, JT/Tiger, Finau/Fowler, Phil/Bryson (I can't believe I'm throwing that pair out, but have to play Phil somewhere)

Phil is not...I repeat IS NOT playing Foursomes. Furyk may be his BFF but anyone with half a brain knows better than to let that guy play alternate shot.

 

I'm tempted to start a new thread: "Which would you rather have as your foursomes partner, Phil or a 4-Handicap?"

 

Well, Phil's index is still a +6.1. Just saying ;)

There's a lot of different ways to play this game. He's found a way to work around his notable weaknesses. Problem is when you put another poor individual in his boots, that guy unfortunately won't have developed the godly recovery and short game skills to play Phil's game (unless that person happens to be Tiger, but still a terrible idea).

 

Agreed. Phil is a wild man and really seems to be off right now as it is.

[Lodestone]

Who was the young Belgian who played so well at Hazeltine? I really enjoyed watching him. I take it he didn't make the team this year?

 

Of course, being an American, I route for the USA in this, but there is absolutely nobody on either team I don't enjoy watching a lot, other than Hatton, Noren, and Oleson, who I don't know much about. But every Ryder Cup there is some Euro I don't know anything about who plays great (the above mentioned Belgian being a case in point).

 

I'm nursing a torn achilles tendon, so I'll probably watch every second of coverage.

I'm mostly hoping neither team runs away with it on Days 1 and 2...

 

Looking forward to it!

 

Andrew Colsaerts - dude made every putt on Saturday.

 

At Hazeltine was Thomas Pieters, while at Medina was Nicolas Colsaerts ;)

 

yeah!,, Thomas Pieters...never cracked a smile as I recall, just kept hitting great shots and making putts. Just what Ryder Cup is all about.

[Roadking2003]

pairing on paper dont mean squat...it comes down to who can handle the pressure and make the shots and putts when the match is on the line....by all rights TW should be undefeated in Ryder Cup competitions, but he isnt

 

My prediction is that someone else than the usual stars will emerge as a hero

 

Unexpected USA heroes:

 

2016 Snedeker: 3-0-0

2014 Reed 3-0-1

2012 Dustin 3-0-0

2010 Stricker 3-1-0

2008 Boo 2-0-1

2008 JB 2-0-1

2006 NOBODY

2004 NOBODY

2002 NOBODY

1999 Sutton 3-1-1

1997 Hoch 2-0-1

[MattyO1984]

How were the Euros out today, same groups as yesterday?

 

Europe today went with

 

Casey, Fleetwood, Olesen and Stenson

Hatton, Molinari, Poulter and Noren

McIlroy, Rahm, Rose and Garcia

[2putttom]

... You Blokes can Bugger Off.....

 

 

[FKA HB]

I believe the US and European leadership conspired to give equally dull and uninspiring captains for this year. Furyk, given his RC record, shouldn't even be allowed to watch the Ryder Cup on TV. Should have dug up a Frenchman to lead the Euro squad. Napoleon comes to mind.

The one thing that can be written in stone is that Team Europe is going to dominate the US squad in the style department. That's good for at least a couple of points.

[MarkFromTheUK]

The level of disrespect shown here towards King Phil is staggering. I am shocked and appalled, and mildly livid.

[Roadking2003]

The level of disrespect shown here towards King Phil is staggering. I am shocked and appalled, and mildly livid.

 

His RC team value is more like a captain than a player. But who knows, his game can flip overnight.

[Hawkeye77]

The level of disrespect shown here towards King Phil is staggering. I am shocked and appalled, and mildly livid.

 

His RC team value is more like a captain than a player. But who knows, his game can flip overnight.

 

If you think the way he is behind the scenes is positive overall. If the guys on the team think so, that's what matters.

[MattyO1984]

The level of disrespect shown here towards King Phil is staggering. I am shocked and appalled, and mildly livid.

 

Ka-boom baby!

[Golfer4Life]

These were the USA's groups this morning, so I think pairings are shaping up:

 

Reed, Spieth, JT, Tiger

 

DC, Phil, Webb, Bubba

 

Finau, Fowler, DJ, Koepka

 

So I'm thinking these are the Friday pairings:

 

Fourballs: Reed/Spieth, Tiger/Bryson, Webb/Bubba, Koepka/DJ

Foursomes: Reed/Spieth, JT/Tiger, Finau/Fowler, Phil/Bryson (I can't believe I'm throwing that pair out, but have to play Phil somewhere)

Phil is not...I repeat IS NOT playing Foursomes. Furyk may be his BFF but anyone with half a brain knows better than to let that guy play alternate shot.

 

I'm tempted to start a new thread: "Which would you rather have as your foursomes partner, Phil or a 4-Handicap?"

 

Well, Phil's index is still a +6.1. Just saying ;)

There's a lot of different ways to play this game. He's found a way to work around his notable weaknesses. Problem is when you put another poor individual in his boots, that guy unfortunately won't have developed the godly recovery and short game skills to play Phil's game (unless that person happens to be Tiger, but still a terrible idea).

 

Agreed. Phil is a wild man and really seems to be off right now as it is.

 

Come on now, Phil was the magical pick, the unicorn, lol.....

[Chilli9880]

The only thing I've been saying over the past couple days is that the US needs to continue to learn from it's mistakes. One of those being Tiger Woods teeing off at the end on Sunday. My opinion is that Tiger needs to be one of the first couple off. If the guys who go off behind him see that he's doing well, it can be inspiring to the whole team. I haven't exactly gone back an analyzed it but if I remember correctly the last 3 or 4 times he's played, his match hasn't meant squat because the US was already behind and/or has lost already. That needs to change. I say the same with Phil, the need to go out in the beginning, not the end.

[Golfer4Life]

I believe the US and European leadership conspired to give equally dull and uninspiring captains for this year. Furyk, given his RC record, shouldn't even be allowed to watch the Ryder Cup on TV. Should have dug up a Frenchman to lead the Euro squad. Napoleon comes to mind.

The one thing that can be written in stone is that Team Europe is going to dominate the US squad in the style department. That's good for at least a couple of points.

 

And when you think about how the PGA of America snubbed Larry Nelson, the more dull it becomes.

[Golfer4Life]

Patently waiting for,

 

The Bubba Cry!

[r0scoe]

As a Canadian with no country allegiance in this tourney, I'm rooting for Rory to do well and lead Europe to victory

[FKA HB]

A Canadian rooting for Europe over the US? Not exactly a hot take. No one outside the US roots for them.

[troublelove]

The only thing I've been saying over the past couple days is that the US needs to continue to learn from it's mistakes. One of those being Tiger Woods teeing off at the end on Sunday. My opinion is that Tiger needs to be one of the first couple off. If the guys who go off behind him see that he's doing well, it can be inspiring to the whole team. I haven't exactly gone back an analyzed it but if I remember correctly the last 3 or 4 times he's played, his match hasn't meant squat because the US was already behind and/or has lost already. That needs to change. I say the same with Phil, the need to go out in the beginning, not the end.

 

Great interview with Zinger by Shane Bacon on this subject:

- don't put Tiger out early as IF he loses it would give the Euros too much motivation

- don't waste him at 11 or 12 as they hardly ever influence the result

- he would put him at 8,9 or 10 as these are the spots which usually decide the cup

[cardoustie]

Zinger was a good captain

 

I enjoy the RC, I like some of the US players but cheer for the Euro squad heavily based on old bloodlines

[bscinstnct]

This be the first shutout in RC history

 

Be like 90-0

 

[Golfer4Life]

Right, right, lol.....