The Open Championship at Royal Portrush GC/Dunluce Links - Shane Lowry is the 2019 Champion Golfer

[LICC]

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

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> > > > > > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

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> > > > > > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

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> > > > > > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

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> > > > > > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

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> > > > > > > > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

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> > > > > > > Cause they are trying to bully it to be a Major, which will never be.

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> > > > > > Contrary to your post immediately above this one, you seem to care a great deal if a tournament is called a "Major" or not. Why, I can't fathom.

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> > > > > As I said, they can bully it to be _named_ Major but it will never _be_ a Major

> > > >

> > > > Forget calling it a Major or not- why is it any less of a top quality tournament than the PGA Championship?

> > >

> > > Not to speak for the other guy, but for me the Players often ranks above both the PGA _and _the US Open when it comes to "quality of tournament."

> > >

> > > But that still doesn't make it a "major," which IMO requires a bit more history than just being a Deane Beman scheme from the 70s that happened to stick.

> >

> > The Players has about the same history as the championship for Tour players as the PGA had before that ended in 1968

>

> What point are you trying to make here? Because it's certainly not self-evident, whatever it is.

>

> And why 1968? Are you thinking of '58, when it switched to stroke play? Either way, by either 1958 or 1968, it had been regarded as the 4th major for several decades. There's pretty much nothing analogous between the first few decades of the PGA and the first few decades of the Players.

 

1968 was when the Tour broke off from the PGA.

[jmck]

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cause they are trying to bully it to be a Major, which will never be.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Contrary to your post immediately above this one, you seem to care a great deal if a tournament is called a "Major" or not. Why, I can't fathom.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As I said, they can bully it to be _named_ Major but it will never _be_ a Major

> > > > >

> > > > > Forget calling it a Major or not- why is it any less of a top quality tournament than the PGA Championship?

> > > >

> > > > Not to speak for the other guy, but for me the Players often ranks above both the PGA _and _the US Open when it comes to "quality of tournament."

> > > >

> > > > But that still doesn't make it a "major," which IMO requires a bit more history than just being a Deane Beman scheme from the 70s that happened to stick.

> > >

> > > The Players has about the same history as the championship for Tour players as the PGA had before that ended in 1968

> >

> > What point are you trying to make here? Because it's certainly not self-evident, whatever it is.

> >

> > And why 1968? Are you thinking of '58, when it switched to stroke play? Either way, by either 1958 or 1968, it had been regarded as the 4th major for several decades. There's pretty much nothing analogous between the first few decades of the PGA and the first few decades of the Players.

>

> 1968 was when the Tour broke off from the PGA.

 

Ah, that makes more sense, thanks for clarifying. Still disagree that the Players will ever have the history needed to be a "fifth major" (or usurp the PGA as the fourth major as the case may be), at least in my lifetime. Even if the quality of the tournament is often better than the PGA or US Open.

[MilkyButterCuts]

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

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> > > > > > > > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Cause they are trying to bully it to be a Major, which will never be.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Contrary to your post immediately above this one, you seem to care a great deal if a tournament is called a "Major" or not. Why, I can't fathom.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As I said, they can bully it to be _named_ Major but it will never _be_ a Major

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Forget calling it a Major or not- why is it any less of a top quality tournament than the PGA Championship?

> > > > >

> > > > > Not to speak for the other guy, but for me the Players often ranks above both the PGA _and _the US Open when it comes to "quality of tournament."

> > > > >

> > > > > But that still doesn't make it a "major," which IMO requires a bit more history than just being a Deane Beman scheme from the 70s that happened to stick.

> > > >

> > > > The Players has about the same history as the championship for Tour players as the PGA had before that ended in 1968

> > >

> > > What point are you trying to make here? Because it's certainly not self-evident, whatever it is.

> > >

> > > And why 1968? Are you thinking of '58, when it switched to stroke play? Either way, by either 1958 or 1968, it had been regarded as the 4th major for several decades. There's pretty much nothing analogous between the first few decades of the PGA and the first few decades of the Players.

> >

> > 1968 was when the Tour broke off from the PGA.

>

> Ah, that makes more sense, thanks for clarifying. Still disagree that the Players will ever have the history needed to be a "fifth major" (or usurp the PGA as the fourth major as the case may be), at least in my lifetime. Even if the quality of the tournament is often better than the PGA or US Open.

 

Or how about reordering the majors half-based on public interest....

[golfer07840]

> @Lagavulin62 said:

> > @imakaveli said:

> > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > >

> > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > >

> > > > Lol, the players :D

> > >

> > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> >

> > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

>

> 4 majors is plenty. But the argumen

> > @LICC said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > >> @golfer07840 said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > >

> > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > >

> > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> >

> > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

>

>

> I'm glad it's back in March. A big part of the problem, besides knowing 4 majors is plenty, is that the course is Mickey Mouse and symbolic of all that is boring American design. The course had it's detractors since it became the home in the mid 70's. The 17th has to be the most ridiculous hole in all of golf. I wish I knew why they want this to be a major.

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I love the course. But that's just me.

[dlygrisse]

> @Lagavulin62 said:

> > @imakaveli said:

> > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > >

> > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > >

> > > > Lol, the players :D

> > >

> > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> >

> > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

>

> 4 majors is plenty. But the argumen

> > @LICC said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > >> @golfer07840 said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > >

> > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > >

> > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> >

> > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

>

>

> I'm glad it's back in March. A big part of the problem, besides knowing 4 majors is plenty, is that the course is Mickey Mouse and symbolic of all that is boring American design. The course had it's detractors since it became the home in the mid 70's. The 17th has to be the most ridiculous hole in all of golf. I wish I knew why they want this to be a major.

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Agreed, and I hate the "strongest field argument" I don't like "deep fields" in the majors, only the very best should qualify, that's why the Masters is the best, the pretenders don't get invited. Just the best in the world and some cerimonial ex-champs and Am's to fill out the field. The Players is for the PGA players, everyone gets in pretty much, I really don't need to see the Grayson Murray's of the world grinding it out trying to make the cut.

[bscinstnct]

 

[jmck]

My God. Rory hasn't aged a day!

[PappyVanWinkle53]

> @Lagavulin62 said:

> > @imakaveli said:

> > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > >

> > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > >

> > > > Lol, the players :D

> > >

> > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> >

> > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

>

> 4 majors is plenty. But the argumen

> > @LICC said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > >> @golfer07840 said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > >

> > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > >

> > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> >

> > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

>

>

> I'm glad it's back in March. A big part of the problem, besides knowing 4 majors is plenty, is that the course is Mickey Mouse and symbolic of all that is boring American design. The course had it's detractors since it became the home in the mid 70's. The 17th has to be the most ridiculous hole in all of golf. I wish I knew why they want this to be a major.

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[gvogel]

> @PZero said:

> Cleveland is introducing a commemorative 87 degree wedge in honor of JB's final round.

 

Great. That will gap nicely with the TaylorMade 79 in honor of Rory's first round.

[gvogel]

> @Lagavulin62 said:

> > @imakaveli said:

> > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > >

> > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > >

> > > > Lol, the players :D

> > >

> > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> >

> > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

>

> 4 majors is plenty. But the argumen

> > @LICC said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > >> @golfer07840 said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > >

> > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > >

> > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> >

> > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

>

>

> I'm glad it's back in March. A big part of the problem, besides knowing 4 majors is plenty, is that the course is Mickey Mouse and symbolic of all that is boring American design. The course had it's detractors since it became the home in the mid 70's. The 17th has to be the most ridiculous hole in all of golf. I wish I knew why they want this to be a major.

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As an American, I support this sentiment.

[elwhippy]

Location is a real bugbear. Without investment from the British tax payer The Open would not have been held at Portrush. It is a village on top of Northern Ireland with little or no decent accommodation.

[scruffynick]

> @dlygrisse said:

> > @duffer987 said:

> > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > Back in the 1950’s they used to sometimes play at quality courses like Royal Lytham and Pinehurst 2. But yeah, the course will far surpass anything in recent memory.

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> > > > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > > > > @Malvern said:

> > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

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> > > > > You guys seem to be forgetting that 2019's biggest event is only 5 months away.........yep, The Presidents Cup.

> > > > > I'm almost giddy with excitement at the prospect of Tiger and Ernie trying to ramp up the new duel in the sun (albeit it is Melbourne and could be raining)

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> > > > On the other hand, Royal Melbourne is better than EVERY course that's hosted the Ryder Cup.

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> > And Christy O'Connor Jr's 2 iron on the 18th - at the blah Brabazon course - is better than any shot that's ever been hit in the Presidents Cup ;-)

>

> The Ryder Cup has basically been played on resort courses in Europe most years, in the US a mix between good private and resort courses.

>

> While Europe gets it right on how they run the team they almost always get it wrong on the venue. In the US we usually have a really good venue (Mostly former major championship venues) , but the team is managed poorly.

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>

 

Are you serious?? I mean which venues have been wrong??? Do you know how good the courses the ryder cup has been played on in Europe, then add the amount of spectators which can come too..... I can't think of one bad course or venue ever in the ryder Cup.

[Dave230]

> @elwhippy said:

> Location is a real bugbear. Without investment from the British tax payer The Open would not have been held at Portrush. It is a village on top of Northern Ireland with little or no decent accommodation.

 

It is not too far from Belfast airport with good roads around it. In terms of links courses, it's among the more accessible ones in Ireland in that way. Again in terms of accommodation I don't think it's bad when you bring in surrounding areas. Thought it was an expertly organised event with a well worked park and ride and transport system working very efficiently.

 

Think you're focusing on negatives rather than the positives

- Portrush is a beautiful town and close to many famous attractions along the north coast. Only heard good things from people that came.

- Novelty, a massive amount of tickets sold in the Republic for example due to access making it one of the best attended Opens ever.

- Cultural significance of hosting it in NI given the wait and the past. Sure it's big in Scotland and England too but going back to the previous point it's just another year whereas for the whole of Northern Ireland this was the greatest event it has ever had and as a result it was such a successful operation.

[duffer987]

> @scruffynick said:

> > @dlygrisse said:

> > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > > Back in the 1950’s they used to sometimes play at quality courses like Royal Lytham and Pinehurst 2. But yeah, the course will far surpass anything in recent memory.

> > > >

> > > > > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > > > > > @Malvern said:

> > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You guys seem to be forgetting that 2019's biggest event is only 5 months away.........yep, The Presidents Cup.

> > > > > > I'm almost giddy with excitement at the prospect of Tiger and Ernie trying to ramp up the new duel in the sun (albeit it is Melbourne and could be raining)

> > > > >

> > > > > On the other hand, Royal Melbourne is better than EVERY course that's hosted the Ryder Cup.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > And Christy O'Connor Jr's 2 iron on the 18th - at the blah Brabazon course - is better than any shot that's ever been hit in the Presidents Cup ;-)

> >

> > The Ryder Cup has basically been played on resort courses in Europe most years, in the US a mix between good private and resort courses.

> >

> > While Europe gets it right on how they run the team they almost always get it wrong on the venue. In the US we usually have a really good venue (Mostly former major championship venues) , but the team is managed poorly.

> >

> >

>

> Are you serious?? I mean which venues have been wrong??? Do you know how good the courses the ryder cup has been played on in Europe, then add the amount of spectators which can come too..... I can't think of one bad course or venue ever in the ryder Cup.

 

C'mon, The K Club, Celtic Manor, the new course at Gleneagles, the Belfry again and again... these are pretty meh courses. Valderama and Le Golf National are really the only two interesting tracks, since Walton Heath in the early 80s. The competitions themselves have been awesome, especially the Euros winning results, and the courses do serve their 'stadium course' remit, but really that's about it.

[TServos]

> @elwhippy said:

> Location is a real bugbear. Without investment from the British tax payer The Open would not have been held at Portrush. It is a village on top of Northern Ireland with little or no decent accommodation.

 

I was wondering where every stayed.

[Bingo1976]

> @elwhippy said:

> Location is a real bugbear. Without investment from the British tax payer The Open would not have been held at Portrush. It is a village on top of Northern Ireland with little or no decent accommodation.

 

I was in Belfast in February - you can see the benefits of the added investment, and everyone was buzzing about the Open. Along with GoT, I think having an Open there once a decade will really help the area and repay the investment many times over.

[imakaveli]

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[imakaveli]

> @imakaveli said:

> > @Dave230 said:

> > > @elwhippy said:

> > > Location is a real bugbear. Without investment from the British tax payer The Open would not have been held at Portrush. It is a village on top of Northern Ireland with little or no decent accommodation.

> >

> > It is not too far from Belfast airport with good roads around it. In terms of links courses, it's among the more accessible ones in Ireland in that way. Again in terms of accommodation I don't think it's bad when you bring in surrounding areas. Thought it was an expertly organised event with a well worked park and ride and transport system working very efficiently.

> >

> > Think you're focusing on negatives rather than the positives

> > - Portrush is a beautiful town and close to many famous attractions along the north coast. Only heard good things from people that came.

> > - Novelty, a massive amount of tickets sold in the Republic for example due to access making it one of the best attended Opens ever.

> > - Cultural significance of hosting it in NI given the wait and the past. Sure it's big in Scotland and England too but going back to the previous point it's just another year whereas for the whole of Northern Ireland this was the greatest event it has ever had and as a result it was such a successful operation.

>

>

Been to Portrush last year, had a great time, it's a small beautiful village with a fantastic course and that's what you should expect. Roads are fine, experienced way worse conditions in the south west.

 

 

[jubilee_links]

It will be interesting to see if they increase ticket numbers if it goes back to Portrush - they were being conservative incase of access problems but I have not heard any horror stories. At least half of the open rota and classic open courses are in small seaside towns with little infrastructure bar St. Andrews, Birkdale (Southport) and Lytham (Blackpool). A big factor is train and bus travel from a bigger town nearby.

 

Carnoustie - poor accommodation for fans - Dundee 20 minutes away - train station on mainline at course

Troon - slightly better accommodation - Glasgow 40 minutes away - train station on mainline short bus transfer away

Muirfield - poor accommodation for fans - Edinburgh 30 minutes away - train station on mainline short bus transfer away

Turnberry - bar the hotel nothing close by - over an hour by car from Glasgow (on a good day) - poor public transport - the main reason why its a rarely used now.

Hoylake - not sure whats nearby but Liverpool is only 20 minutes by car - lots of trains

Royal St Georges - never been but I know there isnt much in Sandwich - 2 hours from central london.

 

 

 

 

[jubilee_links]

Where do people stay when the US open is at winged foot?

[imakaveli]

> @jubilee_links said:

> It will be interesting to see if they increase ticket numbers if it goes back to Portrush - they were being conservative incase of access problems but I have not heard any horror stories. At least half of the open rota and classic open courses are in small seaside towns with little infrastructure bar St. Andrews, Birkdale (Southport) and Lytham (Blackpool). A big factor is train and bus travel from a bigger town nearby.

>

> Carnoustie - poor accommodation for fans - Dundee 20 minutes away - train station on mainline at course

> Troon - slightly better accommodation - Glasgow 40 minutes away - train station on mainline short bus transfer away

> Muirfield - poor accommodation for fans - Edinburgh 30 minutes away - train station on mainline short bus transfer away

> Turnberry - bar the hotel nothing close by - over an hour by car from Glasgow (on a good day) - poor public transport - the main reason why its a rarely used now.

> Hoylake - not sure whats nearby but Liverpool is only 20 minutes by car - lots of trains

> Royal St Georges - never been but I know there isnt much in Sandwich - 2 hours from central london.

>

>

>

>

 

Been at Sandwich, Lytham and Muirfield, never had a problem regarding accomodation and transport. Imho stay at small b&b is part of the fun

[imakaveli]

 

[MattyO1984]

> @imakaveli said:

>

>

 

The years can be kind.

[Superbrit]

> @jubilee_links said:

> It will be interesting to see if they increase ticket numbers if it goes back to Portrush - they were being conservative incase of access problems but I have not heard any horror stories. At least half of the open rota and classic open courses are in small seaside towns with little infrastructure bar St. Andrews, Birkdale (Southport) and Lytham (Blackpool). A big factor is train and bus travel from a bigger town nearby.

>

> Carnoustie - poor accommodation for fans - Dundee 20 minutes away - train station on mainline at course

> Troon - slightly better accommodation - Glasgow 40 minutes away - train station on mainline short bus transfer away

> Muirfield - poor accommodation for fans - Edinburgh 30 minutes away - train station on mainline short bus transfer away

> Turnberry - bar the hotel nothing close by - over an hour by car from Glasgow (on a good day) - poor public transport - the main reason why its a rarely used now.

> Hoylake - not sure whats nearby but Liverpool is only 20 minutes by car - lots of trains

> Royal St Georges - never been but I know there isnt much in Sandwich - 2 hours from central london.

>

>

>

>

 

Just dont stay in the actual town

Carnoustie has Dundee and Arbroath just a short journey away either side

Troon is 10 mins from Ayr and even less from Irvine

Turnberry is 20 mins from Ayr and Girvan isnt too far (though The Open wont be going back)

Hoylake has liverpool like you say and is at the top of the Wirral, loads of places to stay

Royal St georges is about 20 mins from Margate, more hotels that you can shake a stick at

 

I've been to 3 opens and never stayed in the actual town its held, and public transport is really good when the open is on

 

[bladehunter]

> @Lagavulin62 said:

> > @imakaveli said:

> > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > >

> > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > >

> > > > Lol, the players :D

> > >

> > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> >

> > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

>

> 4 majors is plenty. But the argumen

> > @LICC said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > >> @golfer07840 said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > >

> > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > >

> > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> >

> > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

>

>

> I'm glad it's back in March. A big part of the problem, besides knowing 4 majors is plenty, is that the course is Mickey Mouse and symbolic of all that is boring American design. The course had it's detractors since it became the home in the mid 70's. The 17th has to be the most ridiculous hole in all of golf. I wish I knew why they want this to be a major.

>

>

>

>

 

> @Lagavulin62 said:

> > @imakaveli said:

> > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > >

> > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > >

> > > > Lol, the players :D

> > >

> > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> >

> > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

>

> 4 majors is plenty. But the argumen

> > @LICC said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > >> @golfer07840 said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > >

> > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > >

> > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> >

> > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

>

>

> I'm glad it's back in March. A big part of the problem, besides knowing 4 majors is plenty, is that the course is Mickey Mouse and symbolic of all that is boring American design. The course had it's detractors since it became the home in the mid 70's. The 17th has to be the most ridiculous hole in all of golf. I wish I knew why they want this to be a major.

>

>

>

>

 

Yes !

Beat me to it. Problem with the players is the course. I can’t put my finger on it. But that course is the worst course to watch on tv I can think of. Move it somewhere , anywhere and it’s instantly better.

[bladehunter]

> @LICC said:

> > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > @LICC said:

> > > > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> > > >

> > > > 4 majors is plenty. But the argumen

> > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > >> @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> > > > >

> > > > > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I'm glad it's back in March. A big part of the problem, besides knowing 4 majors is plenty, is that the course is Mickey Mouse and symbolic of all that is boring American design. The course had it's detractors since it became the home in the mid 70's. The 17th has to be the most ridiculous hole in all of golf. I wish I knew why they want this to be a major.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Have you ever played Sawgrass? It's a great course, not boring in the least, and particularly excellent for the strategic challenge.

> >

> > No. But I believe a course needs aesthetic appeal and it needs to look as natural as possible.

>

> So you don't like Augusta?

 

 

Comparing sawgrass to Augusta is like comparing road killed possum to a bone in ribeye ..... both maybe perfectly edible proteins. But hardly comparable.

[LICC]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @LICC said:

> > > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> > > > >

> > > > > 4 majors is plenty. But the argumen

> > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > >> @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm glad it's back in March. A big part of the problem, besides knowing 4 majors is plenty, is that the course is Mickey Mouse and symbolic of all that is boring American design. The course had it's detractors since it became the home in the mid 70's. The 17th has to be the most ridiculous hole in all of golf. I wish I knew why they want this to be a major.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Have you ever played Sawgrass? It's a great course, not boring in the least, and particularly excellent for the strategic challenge.

> > >

> > > No. But I believe a course needs aesthetic appeal and it needs to look as natural as possible.

> >

> > So you don't like Augusta?

>

>

> Comparing sawgrass to Augusta is like comparing road killed possum to a bone in ribeye ..... both maybe perfectly edible proteins. But hardly comparable.

 

I’m not saying Sawgrass is better than Augusta. He said he only likes courses that look as natural as possible. This would mean he doesn’t like Augusta.

I’ve been to Augusta and I’ve played Sawgrass. Have you?

[imakaveli]

> @LICC said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @LICC said:

> > > > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4 majors is plenty. But the argumen

> > > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > >> @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm glad it's back in March. A big part of the problem, besides knowing 4 majors is plenty, is that the course is Mickey Mouse and symbolic of all that is boring American design. The course had it's detractors since it became the home in the mid 70's. The 17th has to be the most ridiculous hole in all of golf. I wish I knew why they want this to be a major.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Have you ever played Sawgrass? It's a great course, not boring in the least, and particularly excellent for the strategic challenge.

> > > >

> > > > No. But I believe a course needs aesthetic appeal and it needs to look as natural as possible.

> > >

> > > So you don't like Augusta?

> >

> >

> > Comparing sawgrass to Augusta is like comparing road killed possum to a bone in ribeye ..... both maybe perfectly edible proteins. But hardly comparable.

>

> I’m not saying Sawgrass is better than Augusta. He said he only likes courses that look as natural as possible. This would mean he doesn’t like Augusta.

> I’ve been to Augusta and I’ve played Sawgrass. Have you?

 

You are really comparing Augusta National to TPC Sawgrass... omg...

[jmck]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @LICC said:

> > > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> > > > >

> > > > > 4 majors is plenty. But the argumen

> > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > >> @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm glad it's back in March. A big part of the problem, besides knowing 4 majors is plenty, is that the course is Mickey Mouse and symbolic of all that is boring American design. The course had it's detractors since it became the home in the mid 70's. The 17th has to be the most ridiculous hole in all of golf. I wish I knew why they want this to be a major.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Have you ever played Sawgrass? It's a great course, not boring in the least, and particularly excellent for the strategic challenge.

> > >

> > > No. But I believe a course needs aesthetic appeal and it needs to look as natural as possible.

> >

> > So you don't like Augusta?

>

>

> Comparing sawgrass to Augusta is like comparing road killed possum to a bone in ribeye ..... both maybe perfectly edible proteins. But hardly comparable.

 

I don't know why you're being so harsh. They moved a bunch of dirt to turn a fruit orchard into one of the two or three most beautiful, recognizable, shrines of golf worldwide. Just like they moved a bunch of dirt to turn a rat infested swamp into example A1 of clown course architecture. See! Same thing! Dirt was moved! Can't like one and dislike the other!

[Lagavulin62]

> @jmck said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @LICC said:

> > > > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4 majors is plenty. But the argumen

> > > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > >> @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @LICC said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > @SCalGolfer said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > @golfer07840 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't believe I have to wait 9 months for another Major week, f***.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And if it was the old schedule, you'd have to wait 8 months. Does that extra 30 days eally matter in the grand scheme of things?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, absolutely!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > So get excited for the Players in 8 months and not having to wait two months after the Masters for another major.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lol, the players :D

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If you worked for NBC/Golf Channel or the PGA Tour - that is a sackable offence ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ladies and gents from today the Players will be a Major because we said so. Poulter wins. We kid, we kid!!! ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why all the hate for the Players Championship? It's a very strong field on a tough course (especially now that's back where it belongs in March).

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm glad it's back in March. A big part of the problem, besides knowing 4 majors is plenty, is that the course is Mickey Mouse and symbolic of all that is boring American design. The course had it's detractors since it became the home in the mid 70's. The 17th has to be the most ridiculous hole in all of golf. I wish I knew why they want this to be a major.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Have you ever played Sawgrass? It's a great course, not boring in the least, and particularly excellent for the strategic challenge.

> > > >

> > > > No. But I believe a course needs aesthetic appeal and it needs to look as natural as possible.

> > >

> > > So you don't like Augusta?

> >

> >

> > Comparing sawgrass to Augusta is like comparing road killed possum to a bone in ribeye ..... both maybe perfectly edible proteins. But hardly comparable.

>

> I don't know why you're being so harsh. They moved a bunch of dirt to turn a fruit orchard into one of the two or three most beautiful, recognizable, shrines of golf worldwide. Just like they moved a bunch of dirt to turn a rat infested swamp into example A1 of clown course architecture. See! Same thing! Dirt was moved! Can't like one and dislike the other!

 

You can’t be serious? You just made my point. “Clown course architecture”? Exactly.

 

There is a difference between moving dirt to enhance what is natural and to make a situation viable for golf. Quite another to “fill in” lakes(swamps) to create land as if they were creating a golf version of Battery Park. It is ridiculous with all the cross ties, more water than land practically, sand galore. I mean cmon does that do it for you aesthetically? This is the same as Augusta?

 

From a playability perspective I guarantee you just about every golfer in the world would choose Augusta over TPC Stadium Course. Forget the history etc. Just think in terms of PLAYABILITY. You would have to be mentally challenged to not understand why that is.

 

And believe it or not this comes through on TV and it’s a big reason Sawgrass gets the bad rap. It’s well deserved.