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2020 TaylorMade SIM and SIM Max drivers (in hand photos, M5/M6 comparison pics)


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The SLDR was a "loft up" driver because the super low MOI meant you could kill tons of spin with high strikes and get away with much higher launches. The SIM is setup with weight concentrated low and back which is exactly the opposite of the SLDR. These two drivers share virtually nothing in common from a spec standpoint.

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Titleist TSi3 9* Tensei AV White 65TX 2.0 // Taylormade SIM 10.5* Ventus TR Blue 6TX
Taylormade Stealth+ 16* Ventus Black 8x // Taylormade SIM Ti V2 16.5* Ventus TR Blue 7X
Callaway Apex UW 19* Ventus Black 8x // Srixon ZX Utility MKII 19* Nippon GOST Prototype Hybrid 10
Callaway X-Forged Single♦️  22* Nippon GOST Hybrid Tour X 
Bridgestone 
J40 DPC 4i-7i 24*- 35* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Bridgestone J40 CB 8i-PW 39*- 48* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0

Taylormade Milled Grind Raw 54* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Vokey SM6 58* Oil Can Low Bounce K-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Scotty Cameron Newport Tour Red Dot || Taylormade Spider X Navy Slant

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Exactly. As I noted in a reply post to him

CoG back - dynamic loft increases

CoG low - dynamic launch increases

Everything about SIM suggests higher launch than most drivers TM has produced. But strike will always alter that static design.

A bunch of guys saying "loft up" because they hit SIM low on the face and their current driver center or high aren't the basis for a "this driver is a loft up driver" comment.

Head to head, same loft, same strike, SIM will launch higher.

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I felt like I needed more loft, but that is kinda typical for me.

 

hey money, have you noticed the slight whistle of the SIM?

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
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If the option is there than that is what it will mean, because you can't make a driver shaft any softer than "untipped".

Titleist TSi3 9* Tensei AV White 65TX 2.0 // Taylormade SIM 10.5* Ventus TR Blue 6TX
Taylormade Stealth+ 16* Ventus Black 8x // Taylormade SIM Ti V2 16.5* Ventus TR Blue 7X
Callaway Apex UW 19* Ventus Black 8x // Srixon ZX Utility MKII 19* Nippon GOST Prototype Hybrid 10
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Bridgestone 
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Bridgestone J40 CB 8i-PW 39*- 48* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0

Taylormade Milled Grind Raw 54* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Vokey SM6 58* Oil Can Low Bounce K-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Scotty Cameron Newport Tour Red Dot || Taylormade Spider X Navy Slant

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I sent them a pm on here and they said exactly that. They won’t take a specific request but will adjust back to “standard”. I kind of hope this is new and not something they’ve been doing for a while... when i ordered an M3 it came at 45” and C9. I ordered a SIM at 45” so I hope I don’t need to add a pound of lead tape to it

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Ditto, ordered at 45". But, that would allow "room" for some hot melt, would it not?

Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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Took a good look at the new offerings today at my fitter. Address position looks great and attractive color scheme. Sole of the club stuff looks and feels weird to me. I'm sure it'll be very popular this year.

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My SIM is at 44.5" and it is D1.5 with an original (real) Blue Ventus 6-S. My heads come from the Tour dept so those may be slightly heavier as most of those clubs are built between 44.5" and 45".

In the bag: Playing --- TaylorMade  Qi 10 (core) driver w/Fujikura Ventus Blue 6S. 3wd TM (OG) SIM (special smaller tour only head, same that TW was playing prior to the '24 Genesis approx 160cc) @ 15.*) with Fujikura Ventus 7-S.  5 wd TM SIM w/Fujikura Speeder 857TR-S (Japan made)

HyBrids-Cleveland Hi-Bore #1 (16* plays like 2-Iron) W/Fuji-S Tipped 1/2".  SIM Max #4 (set @ 21.5* w/ Fuji Atmos HB8 9S.  IRONS:  TM M3 4i (2*weak)w SteelFiber i95-S,  P790 3, 5-PW,  w/Fuji Pro 95i-S. SW TM MG4  54*/11 bent to 53*/10 w/ Precision Rifle 6.0-S. LW TaylorMade Hi Toe 3, 58/10 w/Modus Tour 105 Stiff. Putter-- BOBBY GRACE Night&Day-Custom, "M.Coz-Bandsaw Prototype". Ball 2022 TaylorMade Tour Response
 Alternating clubs: the 5wd, TM Hybrid Stealth 2+ #2, 3Iron, depending on what part of the country, course, climate, and conditions.

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I fully expect mine to come in lighter than my desired D3. Hot melt to start and lead tape to follow if necessary.

Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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I have had mine now for over a week, all outdoors. No whistle here.

In the bag: Playing --- TaylorMade  Qi 10 (core) driver w/Fujikura Ventus Blue 6S. 3wd TM (OG) SIM (special smaller tour only head, same that TW was playing prior to the '24 Genesis approx 160cc) @ 15.*) with Fujikura Ventus 7-S.  5 wd TM SIM w/Fujikura Speeder 857TR-S (Japan made)

HyBrids-Cleveland Hi-Bore #1 (16* plays like 2-Iron) W/Fuji-S Tipped 1/2".  SIM Max #4 (set @ 21.5* w/ Fuji Atmos HB8 9S.  IRONS:  TM M3 4i (2*weak)w SteelFiber i95-S,  P790 3, 5-PW,  w/Fuji Pro 95i-S. SW TM MG4  54*/11 bent to 53*/10 w/ Precision Rifle 6.0-S. LW TaylorMade Hi Toe 3, 58/10 w/Modus Tour 105 Stiff. Putter-- BOBBY GRACE Night&Day-Custom, "M.Coz-Bandsaw Prototype". Ball 2022 TaylorMade Tour Response
 Alternating clubs: the 5wd, TM Hybrid Stealth 2+ #2, 3Iron, depending on what part of the country, course, climate, and conditions.

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Having played a 9.0 M5 for the last season, it's going to be a toss up for me as to which loft I go for in SIM. My M5 launches in the 12-14 range and spins 2500-2700 right now (it's not a great fit) and it's set a 8.25° right now.

 

Part of me thinks a 9.0 SIM would be okay, especially set to standard but I had two fantastic driving seasons with a 12° SLDR and 10.5° M1 back in the day. A 10.5 could always be turned down a little bit but the last thing any driver I use needs is a closed face for more loft.

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TSR1 20°, Atmos TS Blue HB 8x 
Mizuno MP Fli Hi 21°, Recoil 110

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RTX6  50, 54, 58 MID (AMT White X100)
Odyssey Eleven S
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Money , if u don’t mind me asking what’s your SS?

im 112-115 ish driver ~ 2 + AOA , love an 8 but worried I won’t produce enough spin

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I play m5 10.5 turned down to 9.75. I was seeing about 1-2 degree lower launch with SIM 9.0 and similar spin to m5. My strike patter with SIM was a touch lower than M5.

What I've seen, and the design would indicate, is that SIM will launch a touch higher than m5 and spin a touch higher (in the same loft). The more you have m5 weights back, the closer it'll resemble SIM.

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Whistle may be the wrong word but there is a sound present on the SIM that is not there on the SIM max. A sound from the slot where the weight is. It is not a bad thing, but I do notice it.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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OHHH, tour department... HAha. Thats just code for I am Jealous.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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Sorry if this has been touched on but does anyone know if my shafts/adapters for M6 will work in Sim/Sim Max? Also has anyone with less than beastly numbers demo’d these yet? My old carcass might get to 93 mph after a handful of Naproxen and a good warmup. I hit M6 as good as I’ve got a driver in years and thought I’d have no chance with the std Sim but yesterday indoor numbers were much better than Sim Max. Wasn’t expecting that

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