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On 8/2/2022 at 2:34 AM, Gtyler14 said:

The ventus for me is a little stiffer feeling overall...the kai’li launches higher for me compared to the black which was some of the reason I switched. 


Perhaps why Rory did as well for the current revolving door that is his 3w spot. https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxn9Yr8omO3cedW9NiCaFne3jVMWdt6-iZ

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8 hours ago, Valtiel said:


Perhaps why Rory did as well for the current revolving door that is his 3w spot. https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxn9Yr8omO3cedW9NiCaFne3jVMWdt6-iZ

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It’s a revolving door for sure. I know right when he switched to kai’li he switched back to the black to go right back to the kai’li. His height on 3 woods never seemed to be an issue so it would be interesting to know exactly why he switched. I switched to a 16.5 head and gained more launch and yards with the Ventus black over the kai’li.

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I saw all the G400 max threads around here and picked one up and got this to go with it for lower spin/launch.

 

Only played 9 holes with the 60TX but i was hitting absolute piss missiles. Really like the shaft so far. I can really get after one if i need to, but also works well on the smoother swings

Lefty

 

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I'm testing right now in a Stealth Plus and found the lol/low promise to be pretty true.  Pretty flat bullets but still a nice smooth feel and decent kick.  Will be comparing to the ZF hopefully today because I think I want more spin.  To be honest, it might make for a good summer/winter combo - ZF in warm weather and Kaili in the winter when I want things lower and running.  First impression is that Kaili White is a really nice shaft and a true successor to the earlier Kaili, Ahina and Whiteboard offerings.

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On 9/16/2022 at 8:31 AM, SheriffBooth said:

I'm testing right now in a Stealth Plus and found the lol/low promise to be pretty true.  Pretty flat bullets but still a nice smooth feel and decent kick.  Will be comparing to the ZF hopefully today because I think I want more spin.  To be honest, it might make for a good summer/winter combo - ZF in warm weather and Kaili in the winter when I want things lower and running.  First impression is that Kaili White is a really nice shaft and a true successor to the earlier Kaili, Ahina and Whiteboard offerings.

Did you ever compare to the ZF? I loved the ZF and like this Kai’li so far in my demo’s. Have a Stealth Plus coming with this shaft. 

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On 10/31/2022 at 12:55 PM, OspreyCI said:

Did you ever compare to the ZF? I loved the ZF and like this Kai’li so far in my demo’s. Have a Stealth Plus coming with this shaft. 

First round with the Stealth Plus Kai’li white. Wow! Love this shaft. Always been fitting into the GD AD TP and the Kai’li White is more stable and love the stiffer tip. This setup was similar amazing for me today. Longer than any setup I can remember. Nice little kick, but does not go left or right. Just a smoking good shaft. Would love to try the Blue in a 3 wood. 

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When did Kai’li hybrid shafts become a thing?

 

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Ping G430 Max 10K 10.5° driver - Diamana GT 60S

Ping G430 Max 15° #3 fairway - Diamana TB 70S

Ping G430 Max 21° #7 fairway - Diamana TB 80S

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On 11/17/2022 at 11:52 AM, Glassmen61 said:

sorry if this has been discussed, but how does the kai'li 60s/x/tx compare to a ventus black 6x?

Kai'li white felt a touch smoother than the Ventus Black.  Launch/spin similar on trackman for me.  Very little if any kick with both.  Both very stable for me but still easy to turn over. 

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Just now, Glassmen61 said:

which kaili were you testing?

White 60TX. 

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https://issuu.com/mitsubishichemicalgolf/docs/mca-mca_2022-catalog-v8.1_pages_?fr=sNjVjOTQ3NTc3NjQ

 

Thought you guys might find this interesting.  I've gamed/tested all the shafts mentioned and find the chart to be mostly true.  The only discrepancy I found was that the PD and Kai'li White was the same launch angle for me but the KW spun a hair more. 

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This thread piqued my interest as I just picked up a G430 LST with the Kai'li.  Great shaft.  As one posted noted, absolute p*ss missiles.  No ballooning or left miss.  Great shaft and pairs beautifully with the G430 head.  For me at least.  Thanks for the link above @phizzy30

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On 12/26/2022 at 8:54 PM, beluga99 said:

This thread piqued my interest as I just picked up a G430 LST with the Kai'li.  Great shaft.  As one posted noted, absolute p*ss missiles.  No ballooning or left miss.  Great shaft and pairs beautifully with the G430 head.  For me at least.  Thanks for the link above @phizzy30

 

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I tried the same combo and really liked them as well! Just curious, are these shafts the real deal and not the made for certain OEMs?

 

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Can anyone please compare the AV Raw White and Kaili White.  I love the Kaili 65 in driver but didn't have a 75 to hit in a fairway wood.  I hit the 75 AV Raw White and it felt great, but seemed slightly softer not sure if real though.

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On 10/31/2022 at 3:55 PM, OspreyCI said:

Did you ever compare to the ZF? I loved the ZF and like this Kai’li so far in my demo’s. Have a Stealth Plus coming with this shaft. 

Sorry man.  Somehow didn't see this question until just now.  At least in the Stealth Plus head for me the ZF was better, but I just never got really dialed in with either shaft.  The Kaili never seemed to spin enough, and I had dispersion issues with the ZF.  Not sure if it was the head or the shaft or the combination.  Just had to move on from the whole kit.

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1 hour ago, SheriffBooth said:

Sorry man.  Somehow didn't see this question until just now.  At least in the Stealth Plus head for me the ZF was better, but I just never got really dialed in with either shaft.  The Kaili never seemed to spin enough, and I had dispersion issues with the ZF.  Not sure if it was the head or the shaft or the combination.  Just had to move on from the whole kit.

All good. I have moved on from

the Kai’li anyway. Just picked up a Ventus TR Blue. 

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On 1/15/2023 at 1:53 PM, odshot68 said:

Can anyone please compare the AV Raw White and Kaili White.  I love the Kaili 65 in driver but didn't have a 75 to hit in a fairway wood.  I hit the 75 AV Raw White and it felt great, but seemed slightly softer not sure if real though.


Play the Kaili white 60tx in the driver and AV Raw white 70tx in the 3 wood. AV Raw is def softer feels a bit smoother to me the way it kicks

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58 minutes ago, meh said:

Same in the aerojet?

Thanks in advance 

 

Yes, real deal.

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Ping G430 Max 15° #3 fairway - Diamana TB 70S

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On 11/18/2022 at 10:39 PM, phizzy30 said:

White 60TX. 

Since moving to the white 60tx i'm hitting more fairways -- especially with the paradym TD. i tested the white back a year and a half ago almost and played the proto for a spell. 

once it came out i knew i had to have it in the bag for good. 

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On 4/1/2022 at 7:17 AM, phizzy30 said:

It's not easier to load than the Ventus Black.  I had the VB 7x and have tested the Kai li 60TX.  Kai'li launches a touch lower and spin is similar.  Kai has a touch more feel than the VB IMO.  Both were very stable anti-left shafts for me. 

Phizzy my man, have you compared Kai li White vs 1K Pro Orange both in 60TX? 

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2 hours ago, WeritoK2 said:

Phizzy my man, have you compared Kai li White vs 1K Pro Orange both in 60TX? 

Yes.  I had the 1K TPO and tested the Kai'li White.  Launch and spin are low/low.  Very similar numbers for me.  Kai'li White was just a hair more stable/anti-left.  Both very linear with barely any kick.  Where they differ is feel.  1K TPO feels very smooth whereas the Kai'li White lacked feel for me.  I think it has to do with the materials used. 

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On 1/23/2023 at 5:49 PM, Tommyboi95 said:

has anyone had any experience with these?


I’ve got one in my Ping G430 4 hybrid and do rate it highly. In fact I tried a Ventus Blue Velocore HB8 for a while but went back to the Kai’Li White once again!

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I play ventus black 6s in a ping g425 lst

and a kaili whites 7s in a stealth plus 3 wood.

 

i find the ventus has less kick and lower launch than kaili. to the point i bought an ad gp 6s to see if i could gain any more yards. i might keep ventus for the middle of summer when is hot and im swinging my quickest otherwise its a little stiff for me similar to a rdx black

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