Is this a hole in one?

[golfortennis]

Couldn't find the other thread I was thinking of, so ...

 

Kid is playing a practice round.  Playing two balls every hole.  Comes to a par three, jars his second one.

 

I don't believe that gets to count, but figured I would run it by the brass.  What say you? 

[Abh159]

No

 

Nothing else to even say. No argument can be made for it to count as a hole in one when it wasn't even the first shot.

 

 

Edited May 23, 2023 by Abh159

[596]

Yes, it's a hole in one swing. Which is a hole in 1. 

 

No, it is not official. Do you buy drinks at the clubhouse, no! Do you get a plaque, no! But it was 1 swing and the ball goes in the hole. 

[Jason280]

Can he card a 1?  No.  Is it a hole in one?  Sure.

[slprince67]

no counting in my book..... great shot though

[Blaiser]

I've actually done this before. And unfortunately the answer is 100% no, it does not count.

[naval2006]

12 hours ago, Jason280 said:

Can he card a 1?  No.  Is it a hole in one?  Sure.

So a hole in one in a non competitive or practice round is not a hole in one?  

[Socrates]

1 hour ago, naval2006 said:

So a hole in one in a non competitive or practice round is not a hole in one?  

Not if they are playing multiple balls.  It's like holing out on a driving range. 

[Wooley12]

When I got my ball into the hole with one swing it didn't count as a HIO as it was on an extra hole after playing 9 for a score. Would not have counted anyway as an Ace needed to be made in an 18 hole round to be officially recognized. 

[Abh159]

21 hours ago, 596 said:

Yes, it's a hole in one swing. Which is a hole in 1. 

 

Based on that logic I have 18 hole in ones every single time I play 😉

[Ghostwedge]

1 hour ago, Wooley12 said:

When I got my ball into the hole with one swing it didn't count as a HIO as it was on an extra hole after playing 9 for a score. Would not have counted anyway as an Ace needed to be made in an 18 hole round to be officially recognized. 

Pretty sure and Ace counts in a 9 hole rd on a legit course and it's at least 90 yds in length.

[kwcsports]

Nope

[ChipNRun]

10 hours ago, naval2006 said:

So a hole in one in a non competitive or practice round is not a hole in one?

 

It dependings on the scoring protocol for the day. If the practice round is registered for score, as to determine the team's starting line-up, it would count.

 

 

[Wooley12]

8 hours ago, Ghostwedge said:

Pretty sure and Ace counts in a 9 hole rd on a legit course and it's at least 90 yds in length.

It does today. It didn't then. Game was harder with actual wooden woods in a lot of rules ways. 

Edited May 25, 2023 by Wooley12

[MountainKing]

A solid example of why I never hit two balls on a par 3, or if I do I hit it away from the pin.  Never had a hole in one, and man would it be a let down for this to be how it happened.

[Ghostwedge]

4 minutes ago, MountainKing said:

A solid example of why I never hit two balls on a par 3, or if I do I hit it away from the pin.  Never had a hole in one, and man would it be a let down for this to be how it happened.

Actually had this happen twice over the years as a witness. The guys chunked the tee shot and made the second one. One guy was embarrassed and didn't say a word. The other guy told us it was an ace, i told him it's a 2,3 or 4 but its not an ace. 

[TourSpoon]

It's 100% a hole-in-one only if he buys drinks after the round. Then the next day we have to break the bad news to him. 🤣

[Phabs]

Pretty cool hole in two. 

[grm24]

On 5/24/2023 at 4:26 PM, Ghostwedge said:

Pretty sure and Ace counts in a 9 hole rd on a legit course and it's at least 90 yds in length.

There are no official hard and fast actual rules about hole in ones. Including yardage. People have suggested their own beliefs and suggestions but that's all they are. Suggestions. 

 

For instance at the Walker Cup at LACC a few years back they played a par 3 that was only 80 yards. If somebody holed their tee shot it would have been a HIO.

 

People like to discount par 3 courses for HIO's. So I guess the back to back HIO's that Seamus Power had at the Masters par 3 tournament this year don't count or never happened since it was not on a legitimate course. C'mon.

Edited May 26, 2023 by grm24

[Ghostwedge]

7 hours ago, grm24 said:

There are no official hard and fast actual rules about hole in ones. Including yardage. People have suggested their own beliefs and suggestions but that's all they are. Suggestions. 

 

For instance at the Walker Cup at LACC a few years back they played a par 3 that was only 80 yards. If somebody holed their tee shot it would have been a HIO.

 

People like to discount par 3 courses for HIO's. So I guess the back to back HIO's that Seamus Power had at the Masters par 3 tournament this year don't count or never happened since it was not on a legitimate course. C'mon.

I'd suggest you not take what I posted so seriously. I know there are no set rules for a HIO and would definitely count Powers aces.

[ProStryker]

This thread is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous are the people saying that it is a hole in one. He hit two balls. That’s a hole in two.  By many people analysis here, the guy could have dropped a bucket of 100 range balls, hit them all, finally made one, and called it a hole in one because he did it on that one swing.   Ridiculous.

[bobfoster]

11 hours ago, ProStryker said:

This thread is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous are the people saying that it is a hole in one. He hit two balls. That’s a hole in two.  By many people analysis here, the guy could have dropped a bucket of 100 range balls, hit them all, finally made one, and called it a hole in one because he did it on that one swing.   Ridiculous.

🤣 Exactly. This thread makes me giggle. By the definition here, every time I sink a putt it is a "hole in one" - it was one stroke, and it went in the hole. Was it the only stroke on the hole? No - but apparently that doesn't matter. I'm pleased to announce I get 18 holes in one in every round.

 

Technically, by the RoG, it wasn't even a hole in 2 - it was a par. He hit one, took an unplayable (even if it might have been playable, still you can take one - declaring an unplayable is solely at the discretion of the player, unless the ball is in a penalty area), dropped for two, holed the 3. Par. 

 

I do get practice rounds. Actually do them a lot in early spring to shake off winter rust. Have a couple local courses where I'll go out later in the day alone, hardly anyone on the course, and play two or three balls a hole. Work out kinks in the swing. Try risk/reward shots I'd never try during a real round. You can swing much more freely, experiment, when score doesn't matter. I totally get the value in rounds like that. 

 

BUT! You can't have it both ways. When you stand on the tee of a practice round and say "scores don't matter" (which is the entire point of a practice round - you are working on your swing, not your score), then scores don't matter. A hole in one on that Par 3 is not a hole in one, any more than the 6 on that same Par 3 is a 6 during a practice round.

 

Now and then I'll hit the bottom of the flagstick warming up with wedges before a round. Not uncommon to sink a 20-footer on the practice green before a round (especially having already had two attempts from the same spot). 

 

Only hole in one that counts is one played during a legitimate, RoG round where every stroke counts. 

 

 

 

 

[mat562]

I don't claim the ones I've holed with the first ball on a par three course, so I'm definitely not counting that.

[SupSup99]

A lot of people here raining on a kids success. Can he card a 1? No. Does it matter? Absolutely not. I think most people here forget that this is a game and not celebrating a hole in one (which is what this is) for a kid is just sad. 

[slocagolfer]

Here's a twist. This happened.

 

Match play. Par 3.

Player A hits it to about 10 feet. 

Player B says Player A hit from in front of the markers. Opts to have Player A replay the shot.

Yep. Player A re-tees and cans it.

Hole in one, most def.

[TourSpoon]

2 hours ago, slocagolfer said:

Here's a twist. This happened.

 

Match play. Par 3.

Player A hits it to about 10 feet. 

Player B says Player A hit from in front of the markers. Opts to have Player A replay the shot.

Yep. Player A re-tees and cans it.

Hole in one, most def.

I had to look this one up. Interesting turn of events! So on the next par three A is out of turn and B cancels the stroke and then tees off in the correct order and A retees (without penalty) and cans it...its a similar scenario. A's wallet gets a lot lighter at the 19th hole! 

Edited June 12, 2023 by TourSpoon
Clarification

[Rob G 89]

there you go 500 shots to get a “hole in one”. I would say a majority of players don’t by play rules and any shot from a tee box that goes in is a hole in one

[Under2hours]

Out playing on your own and say multiple balls, which I often do.  However on a par 3 jar first ball I hit (& for reference there is a witness).

 

Is that a hio?

[getitdaily]

No

[I'_rather_be_golfing]

Its a hole in one regardless. Lets not over think it and over complicate it.