2024 PING 10K Driver Info

[Phabs]

On 9/28/2023 at 7:36 PM, Whatnogarnish said:

Gonna stick my 1k into that 10k. 

More like 401K

[scooterhd2]

As a G400MAX user, this has my interest. 

[DatSliceDoe]

14 hours ago, mktrout said:

theres only 27 replies in the thread, maybe read them before repeating someone else's joke

didn't answer my very serious question!

[nicpamchoulman]

Any idea when pics etc or when the release date is?

[Wick77]

I held one today.  Looks pretty sweet, I didn’t get to hear the full spill on the specs, but he did say the most forgiving ping driver ever and total moi of 10k with lower spin than the max.  

[nicpamchoulman]

5 hours ago, Wick77 said:

I held one today.  Looks pretty sweet, I didn’t get to hear the full spill on the specs, but he did say the most forgiving ping driver ever and total moi of 10k with lower spin than the max.  

Does it have the carbon? Someone also mentioned a fixed weight rather than movable...

[bombs]

If the turbulators and the pinstriping go im keen. 

 

Otherwise TSR2 incoming. 

Edited October 12, 2023 by bombs

[Red4282]

Im more interested in the sound. Those high moi drivers usually sound awful If they somehow manage a decent sound, that would be huge

[BubbaBallesteros]

1 hour ago, bombs said:

If the turbulators and the pinstriping go im keen. 

 

Otherwise TSR2 incoming. 

Get your TSR2. Turbulators aren't going anywhere.

[wcbjr]

1 hour ago, BubbaBallesteros said:

Get your TSR2. Turbulators aren't going anywhere.

Based on the recent patent filings, I believe this is correct.

[Binson]

History isn't in my favor, but really wish there's a lower lofted option.

[hammergolf]

11 hours ago, Wick77 said:

I held one today.  Looks pretty sweet, I didn’t get to hear the full spill on the specs, but he did say the most forgiving ping driver ever and total moi of 10k with lower spin than the max.  

Wow, that sounds like a potential game changer. 

[jjl]

11 hours ago, Wick77 said:

I held one today.  Looks pretty sweet, I didn’t get to hear the full spill on the specs, but he did say the most forgiving ping driver ever and total moi of 10k with lower spin than the max.  

Any other details you can share? Movable weight? Similar look to the G430 Max or different? Curious where this would fit in vs the 430 Max, I’m close to pulling the trigger on the Max but want to hear more about this first, including release date when it’s known. Thanks

[hammergolf]

11 minutes ago, jjl said:

Any other details you can share? Movable weight? Similar look to the G430 Max or different? Curious where this would fit in vs the 430 Max, I’m close to pulling the trigger on the Max but want to hear more about this first, including release date when it’s known. Thanks

Carbon crown, no adjustable weight.

[njmack]

11 hours ago, Wick77 said:

I held one today.  Looks pretty sweet, I didn’t get to hear the full spill on the specs, but he did say the most forgiving ping driver ever and total moi of 10k with lower spin than the max.  

 

I'm interested, but this feels like an odd product... If a 10K driver is lower spin and more forgiving than the 430 Max which is only 1 year into its (presumably) 2y cycle, where does the Max fit into Ping's driver lineup?

[toddyc]

6 minutes ago, njmack said:

 

I'm interested, but this feels like an odd product... If a 10K driver is lower spin and more forgiving than the 430 Max which is only 1 year into its (presumably) 2y cycle, where does the Max fit into Ping's driver lineup?

Yeah I thought max meant maximum but I guess they had more in the tank for the 10k

It must sell better to release as a special thing halfway through the cycle instead of just holding it back for the g440 max or whatever will be next 

[noodle3872]

7 minutes ago, njmack said:

 

I'm interested, but this feels like an odd product... If a 10K driver is lower spin and more forgiving than the 430 Max which is only 1 year into its (presumably) 2y cycle, where does the Max fit into Ping's driver lineup?

Max sits in the same position it currently sits; low to mid spin, 3 position moveable weight with excellent forgiveness. The 10K sounds like Ping’s first attempt at combining ultra high MOI with low spin performance which seems to be the final frontier of driver optimization. 

[njmack]

3 minutes ago, noodle3872 said:

Max sits in the same position it currently sits; low to mid spin, 3 position moveable weight with excellent forgiveness. The 10K sounds like Ping’s first attempt at combining ultra high MOI with low spin performance which seems to be the final frontier of driver optimization. 

 

Sure, but I would argue that the latter definition has been the trend their Max model has moved towards. Wherever the 10K positions itself, I'd assume it's going to hurt Max sales

[300_yard_drives]

5 minutes ago, noodle3872 said:

Max sits in the same position it currently sits; low to mid spin, 3 position moveable weight with excellent forgiveness. The 10K sounds like Ping’s first attempt at combining ultra high MOI with low spin performance which seems to be the final frontier of driver optimization. 

Smaller head size while keeping high moi is the next frontier

[jonflesh]

56 minutes ago, hammergolf said:

Carbon crown, no adjustable weight.

I’m assuming there is some fixed weight that can be changed though like the 400?

 

I always need a lighter weight to get the SW in a decent range. I’ve got the 17 gram in the 430 max now

[hammergolf]

12 minutes ago, jonflesh said:

I’m assuming there is some fixed weight that can be changed though like the 400?

 

I always need a lighter weight to get the SW in a decent range. I’ve got the 17 gram in the 430 max now

It will have a weight to change swingweight, but not a moveable weight.

[erock9174]

Same colorway (black with yellow ish accents) ?

[Pens #1 fan]

We need pics, what does the patent pic look like 

[golfnhack]

Will try it... if it has no Turbulators. I just can't look at that top.

[8602081]

14 hours ago, Wick77 said:

I held one today.  Looks pretty sweet, I didn’t get to hear the full spill on the specs, but he did say the most forgiving ping driver ever and total moi of 10k with lower spin than the max.  

 

 

10k moi is not legal?

 

Two of the USGA limitations on driver heads are size and MOI. The maximum driver head size is 460 c.c. plus a 10 c.c. tolerance making the absolute maximum legal size 470 c.c. The term c.c. stands for cubic centimeters.

The maximum allowable driver head M.O.I. is 5900 g-cm² plus a tolerance of 100 g-cm² making the absolute maximum driver head MOI 6000 g-cm². The term g-cm² stands for grams per centimeter squared.

Regarding MOI, some confusion can exist because the numbers used to express it in our industry can be in different units. In other words, the Maltby Playability Factor for irons uses oz-in² (ounce/inches squared).

[hammergolf]

15 minutes ago, 8602081 said:

 

 

10k moi is not legal?

 

Two of the USGA limitations on driver heads are size and MOI. The maximum driver head size is 460 c.c. plus a 10 c.c. tolerance making the absolute maximum legal size 470 c.c. The term c.c. stands for cubic centimeters.

The maximum allowable driver head M.O.I. is 5900 g-cm² plus a tolerance of 100 g-cm² making the absolute maximum driver head MOI 6000 g-cm². The term g-cm² stands for grams per centimeter squared.

Regarding MOI, some confusion can exist because the numbers used to express it in our industry can be in different units. In other words, the Maltby Playability Factor for irons uses oz-in² (ounce/inches squared).

The 10k is a combination of the MOI in two dimensions, not just the single measurement used by the usga. It’s absolutely conforming. 

[Anser3]

2 hours ago, 300_yard_drives said:

Smaller head size while keeping high moi is the next frontier

 Ping already hit that with the LST series, starting with the G400 LST.  Having a  440CC head with an MOI on par with other manufacturer's 460CC heads was a big win for them.

[Anser3]

1 minute ago, hammergolf said:

The 10k is a combination of the MOI in two dimensions, not just the single measurement used by the usga. It’s absolutely conforming. 

 

 

No manufacturer is going to make a non-conforming driver head for the masses.  The gains are minimal and it won't sell well enough.  Callaway tried two decades ago and the non-conforming driver barely outperformed conforming models and did not sell well. 

[TiScape]

On 10/1/2023 at 6:31 PM, mktrout said:

theres only 27 replies in the thread, maybe read them before repeating someone else's joke

In this day and age of headline news on reels, you want (expect) ppl to read thru something??? 
 

🤣
 

*and on the driver. It will be $1k, high MOI, sound awful, be shorter than drivers that sound far better that are so close to as forgiving you probably won’t notice. 😇

Edited October 12, 2023 by TiScape

[hammergolf]

2 hours ago, TiScape said:

In this day and age of headline news on reels, you want (expect) ppl to read thru something??? 
 

🤣
 

*and on the driver. It will be $1k, high MOI, sound awful, be shorter than drivers that sound far better that are so close to as forgiving you probably won’t notice. 😇

Wish you would have used your crystal ball to give out the winning lottery numbers….