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who has actually played with a legit scratch golfer/pro level player?

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  • JerryTBallJerryTBall Avid Amateur NCMembers Posts: 367 ✭✭✭✭

    The shot comment was a little much, and I hope it never comes to the golf course because it seems like the safest place to be these days but that is today’s Society, you see on TV every day, that’s why my golf bag weighs 32 ounces more.

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    Crime is actually way down and trending lower. Media just reports more of it than in the past unless it happens in DC, Baltimore or Chicago.

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  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, FloridaMembers Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    One of my high school golfers is ridiculous in terms of ability (not surprisingly he is committed to a top 5 golf program). The kid just has complete control of his golf ball. He will call his shot down to the height and spin numbers. He’s basically a more polished version of Bubba Watson in terms of the think it, mentally see it, and then do it mentality.

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  • gambitgambit Members Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I've played with a legit + hdcp. I'm a mid-capper. He hit his fair share of poor shots, not as many as me, but more than I thought a plus would. The biggest take away I got from that round, and talking to him throughout, was his course management. How he sees the hole with his ball flight, what happens if he misses long, short, left, right and plays to his strength. Also his pre-shot routine never wavered and he never gave up on a hole. He finished 3 under that day.

  • jjj912jjj912 Members Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I play a lot at public courses and I’d guess that I get paired with a really good player about once every 30 rounds. I agree with the other posters’ comments that the really good players play at private courses or have a dedicated group. The people I know at work that I’ve been told are really good golfers all play at private clubs.

  • phatchrisrulesphatchrisrules Members Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't believe I never noticed this thread before. My ex-manager (3ish years ago) made a go at the tour. I never asked him directly but just heard anecdotal evidence that he either made it to the upper level mini tours (Canadian Tour, what would have been Nike or Web.com) to he actually Monday qualified and made some pro events. We played a course that is around 6100 yards (possibly played blacks at 6700, I can't remember) and this was his second round of the year (in late July or early August). He shot what I think was the course record at 64 ot 63 but it didn't count because he either took a mulligan on one hole because it was just a horrendous shot or because he left the flagstick in on a putt and accidentally made it. Either way, it was just dumb to watch. Every drive was ripped, irons were either 10-15 feet for a birdie look or were "mishit" slightly to about 25-30 feet. He carried an M1 driver, G25 4 wood, Taylormade TP CBs (the ones with the weights in the back of them), a Ping Ketsch putter, and I think some older TM wedges. They were all stock shafts, except for the driver because he won it in a contest so it was custom fit for him.

    To put it mildly it was effortless as others had said. Rarely missed, putts dropped like they were 2 foot tap-ins when he needed them, every par 5 was an eagle look, almost jarred it on a couple of par 3s, and there was no such thing as scrambling for par. I wish I had his game or even half of it. He doesn't play still and gave up the golf gig to work selling lumber or something in a cottage town about 2 hours north to have more quality time with the family.

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  • jll62jll62 MinneapolisClubWRX Posts: 2,199 ClubWRX
    edited Sep 8, 2019 3:59pm #428

    @phatchrisrules said:
    I can't believe I never noticed this thread before. My ex-manager (3ish years ago) made a go at the tour. I never asked him directly but just heard anecdotal evidence that he either made it to the upper level mini tours (Canadian Tour, what would have been Nike or Web.com) to he actually Monday qualified and made some pro events. We played a course that is around 6100 yards (possibly played blacks at 6700, I can't remember) and this was his second round of the year (in late July or early August). He shot what I think was the course record at 64 ot 63 but it didn't count because he either took a mulligan on one hole because it was just a horrendous shot or because he left the flagstick in on a putt and accidentally made it. Either way, it was just dumb to watch. Every drive was ripped, irons were either 10-15 feet for a birdie look or were "mishit" slightly to about 25-30 feet. He carried an M1 driver, G25 4 wood, Taylormade TP CBs (the ones with the weights in the back of them), a Ping Ketsch putter, and I think some older TM wedges. They were all stock shafts, except for the driver because he won it in a contest so it was custom fit for him.

    To put it mildly it was effortless as others had said. Rarely missed, putts dropped like they were 2 foot tap-ins when he needed them, every par 5 was an eagle look, almost jarred it on a couple of par 3s, and there was no such thing as scrambling for par. I wish I had his game or even half of it. He doesn't play still and gave up the golf gig to work selling lumber or something in a cottage town about 2 hours north to have more quality time with the family.

    The funny thing is, what separates elite players from good players is scrambling for pars. A lot of players can post a low number when things are on, but it's the ones who seemingly play awful and then post a couple under that really impress.

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  • Always_roughAlways_rough Members Posts: 484 ✭✭✭✭

    I played with a guy that had a disability, forgive me for not knowing the name, but his legs were very skinny while the rest of his body was normal. Guys had knee braces on both legs. Ended up shooting -5 on the front nine. He hit every fairway, only missed two greens, and putted lights out. His tee shots were around 200-210, but he seemed to hit everything out of the middle of the face. He ended the round -3, as the back 9 generally plays longer with the wind.

    It just blew my mind to watch. Here I was, hitting the ball 290~ into the rough, struggling to make pars on most holes, while this guy was just plotting his way around the course without mistake. I finished the day +6. We both played from the same tee box. Learned a lot that day.

    I've played with plus handicappers. When I was in the military, I used to play with a guy that could hit it around 310 off the tee, and had an amazing short game. His irons were the weak part of his game. But even on the bad days, the worst I ever saw him shoot was +2.

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  • phatchrisrulesphatchrisrules Members Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @jll62 said:

    @phatchrisrules said:
    I can't believe I never noticed this thread before. My ex-manager (3ish years ago) made a go at the tour. I never asked him directly but just heard anecdotal evidence that he either made it to the upper level mini tours (Canadian Tour, what would have been Nike or Web.com) to he actually Monday qualified and made some pro events. We played a course that is around 6100 yards (possibly played blacks at 6700, I can't remember) and this was his second round of the year (in late July or early August). He shot what I think was the course record at 64 ot 63 but it didn't count because he either took a mulligan on one hole because it was just a horrendous shot or because he left the flagstick in on a putt and accidentally made it. Either way, it was just dumb to watch. Every drive was ripped, irons were either 10-15 feet for a birdie look or were "mishit" slightly to about 25-30 feet. He carried an M1 driver, G25 4 wood, Taylormade TP CBs (the ones with the weights in the back of them), a Ping Ketsch putter, and I think some older TM wedges. They were all stock shafts, except for the driver because he won it in a contest so it was custom fit for him.

    To put it mildly it was effortless as others had said. Rarely missed, putts dropped like they were 2 foot tap-ins when he needed them, every par 5 was an eagle look, almost jarred it on a couple of par 3s, and there was no such thing as scrambling for par. I wish I had his game or even half of it. He doesn't play still and gave up the golf gig to work selling lumber or something in a cottage town about 2 hours north to have more quality time with the family.

    The funny thing is, what separates elite players from good players is scrambling for pars. A lot of players can post a low number when things are on, but it's the ones who seemingly play awful and then post a couple under that really impress.

    I agree with you there. What I meant more along the lines of was that it all seemed so easy. Nothing was a bad shot, I don't think he missed a green. If he did it was easily a tap-in putt. I guess that was his "scrambling" but in reality it was so good nothing looked hard at all.

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  • HappyGilmoresBootsHappyGilmoresBoots Scramble King MichiganMembers Posts: 52 ✭✭

    There was an old neighbor of my parents that was a retired businessman of some sort - spent his professional career on the golf course multiple times per week, then golfed **** near daily during retirement. His other hobby was cruises, and he spent his time away from the course calculating and figuring out how to get the cheapest cruises (on some Extreme Couponing-level stuff, he would actually get paid to go on cruises). So, he had a clubfitter at each port-of-call in the Caribbean with a golf course ready and waiting for him with a set of custom-sized rental clubs (you don't save money on cruises by paying the oversize luggage fees to bring your own clubs).

    Obviously he was a driven guy; he couldn't have been such a successful businessman if he wasn't. But, he was far from competitive, and often declined entry into tournaments and the like. What sticks out in my memory was the grace and ease with which he approached every single shot, and how his calm coolness shone as a beacon of positivity around him. He was a powerful presence. He never celebrated a birdie, and never raised a ruckus over a bogey (but those almost never happened)...everything was just as it was, and as it needed to be. Even though a quick 9 after dinner with the guys around the neighborhood was his 27th (or 45th) holes of the day, he rarely faltered or tired. It was with him that I scored my best 9 holes to date (then completely pooped the bed the very next day on the very same 9 holes at the high school golf team tryouts).

  • Dr. BombayDr. Bombay Members Posts: 270 ✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 10, 2019 3:44pm #433

    We have some solid players where I play. In a recent 16-man game my A-player missed a 3-footer on 18 to shoot 8-under with a bogey. The second A-player advanced deep into match-play at the US Mid-Am last year. The third A-player won several G-Pro events last year. The fourth A-player was just a random +2 handicapper nobody has ever heard of. I think we had 9 players that day who were 1-handicap or better, and 6 who were +plus handicappers....by definition two of which ended up being B-players!

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  • JDW3JDW3 Members Posts: 635 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 10, 2019 10:40pm #434

    I have a friend that’s a club pro and we play together fairly often but as far as getting paired with random scratch golfers goes I’ve never been paired with one. Lowest I’ve been paired is around a 2. I’ve been between 3.9 and 7 for the past 5 years (currently 5.5) and have played a lot of rounds as a single joining groups and it’s extremely rare to get paired with someone that beats me.

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  • goaliedad30goaliedad30 Members Posts: 12 ✭✭

    Back in the 1970's in high school, I played against Chris Perry, who went on to have a fairly successful career on the PGA Tour. I also played once in those days with Mark O'Meara, who was playing at Long Beach State at the time, and would win the US Amateur a couple of years later. I was a very good amateur at the time, probably a 1-2 hcp. They were LIGHT YEARS better than I was. Wasn't even close. The day I played with O'Meara, he shot 67 and made it look easy. We were playing completely different games.

  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, FloridaMembers Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Buckets2 said:
    Only once someone gets to scratch do they realize how much they truly suck.

    and if they ever fall out of scratch due to swing issues or life it makes golf harder knowing what they are capable of versus what they are doing. FML...

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  • James the Hogan FanJames the Hogan Fan Members Posts: 684 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Paired up this week with a mini-tour player. We played 9. I knew something was up when he walked back to the tips where I was without asking about tees (at this course, no one, no one plays the tips except me and a handful of others whom I know). Then I knew something was really up when I crushed my drive... and his airmailed my ball on its way to 300+. He only had one approach on the day outside of 30', and shot even par with 2 birdies offset by an ugly double that was kind of unlucky. He hit his 5 iron as far as my 5w and his wedges distances vs clock position of swing were dialed to the yard. Very fun to play with.

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  • Minnow31Minnow31 Members Posts: 1

    I played with a former Euro tour player and it was fun to watch. I am a 10 and we played from the 6200 yd tees , he gave me 18 strokes-match play. On the first hole I knew I was in trouble. He hit wedge to 6 inches for birdie. On a shorter par 4, he hit driver to 15' for eagle putt, though he missed it.
    Had a ton of fun. I believe he shot 71 or 72. Did I say it was fun ?

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