Lob Wedges, what are they good for?

[bkirkley09]

Specifically looking at 2 wedges and wanting to know what people here think about them. If there are other similar wedges then feel free to shout them out and what you like about them.

 

1. Vokey K-grind low bounce - recently started playing with this and it is a revelation. No worries at all of a tight lie causing me to blade the ball across the green. I can get up and down easily so far. Cons are that they are prohibitively expensive and everything is an upcharge. Lol.

 

2. Taylormade Hi-toe - no experience with it but upon reading about it it sounds like it may be even more versatile than then low bounce k grind.

 

This wedge will be used almost entirely for touch shots around the green and out of bunkers so looking for some advice on which one to go with. The Hi-toe is considerably cheaper but having always trusted the vokey name I did not want to make a mistake no matter how much cheaper the club is.

[dcopp7]

I use my 58* less and less. My 52* is money though

[Vintage1976]

Lob wedge.

Huh.

Good Gawd, yall.

What is it good for?

Absolutely nothin!

[larryd3]

I don’t think Vokeys are that expensive. If it works for you and improves your short game (better scoring) what’s an extra $50 or whatever. To me the performance outweighs the cost anyday.

[bkirkley09]

I don’t think Vokeys are that expensive. If it works for you and improves your short game (better scoring) what’s an extra $50 or whatever. To me the performance outweighs the cost anyday.

 

Well so the vokey is $195 and then an additional $25 for the KBS HI-REV 2.0 which is a shaft I love totaling $220. The Hi-Toe is 135.99 with that shaft on dsg today. I agree though and am more than happy to pay the difference if the club is worth it. I just did not know if the hi-toe compared and was just as good and yet cheaper.

[Joelsim]

My 58 is my normal wedge. My 64 is my lob wedge. And I’d like to give a massive shout for the Callaway Mack Daddy 4. I couldn’t be happier with the performance, the spin, the stability, the ease of use, the consistency and the flexibility of the X Grind. A wonderful club.

 

And if you’re looking for spin, the Hi Toe and the MD4 seem to have the Vokey whipped, according to a couple of reviews I’ve read. I haven’t tried the SM7, but I had an SM6 that I didn’t care for and sold fairly soon after buying it.

[Pigems]

You can find a slightly used Vokey and a used Shaft of your choice for much less than $195. I never buy New clubs, slightly used saves you a lot of money if you don’t need Brand New.

[bkirkley09]

My 58 is my normal wedge. My 64 is my lob wedge. And I'd like to give a massive shout for the Callaway Mack Daddy 4. I couldn't be happier with the performance, the spin, the stability, the ease of use, the consistency and the flexibility of the X Grind. A wonderful club.

 

And if you're looking for spin, the Hi Toe and the MD4 seem to have the Vokey whipped, according to a couple of reviews I've read. I haven't tried the SM7, but I had an SM6 that I didn't care for and sold fairly soon after buying it.

 

Well so maybe I am thinking about this incorrectly. You list the Xgrind which has 12 degrees of bounce. From my understanding the more bounce the more the club head "bounces" off the ground instead of sweeping or digging? My biggest problem around the green is thinning my lob shots and blading them. That to me would mean that I am needing a low bounce wedge, and when using the low bounce vokey I never once thinned a shot (could be another factor I literally just started using one last week). Please correct me if I am wrong but I think the X grind would not work for me in this situation! Also the MD4s look beautiful I just do not think they are offering what I am looking for.

[Hit em good]

I'm not sure if a 58° qualifies as a Lob wedge. If it does, I use mine extensively for pitches, and for longer shots from 80 yards and in.

[Joelsim]

My 58 is my normal wedge. My 64 is my lob wedge. And I'd like to give a massive shout for the Callaway Mack Daddy 4. I couldn't be happier with the performance, the spin, the stability, the ease of use, the consistency and the flexibility of the X Grind. A wonderful club.

 

And if you're looking for spin, the Hi Toe and the MD4 seem to have the Vokey whipped, according to a couple of reviews I've read. I haven't tried the SM7, but I had an SM6 that I didn't care for and sold fairly soon after buying it.

 

Well so maybe I am thinking about this incorrectly. You list the Xgrind which has 12 degrees of bounce. From my understanding the more bounce the more the club head "bounces" off the ground instead of sweeping or digging? My biggest problem around the green is thinning my lob shots and blading them. That to me would mean that I am needing a low bounce wedge, and when using the low bounce vokey I never once thinned a shot (could be another factor I literally just started using one last week). Please correct me if I am wrong but I think the X grind would not work for me in this situation! Also the MD4s look beautiful I just do not think they are offering what I am looking for.

 

Yes, I use mine as an all-round wedge so I like the extra bounce. If you’re specifically looking for low bounce then there is the C-Grind.

[Pigems]

My 58 is my normal wedge. My 64 is my lob wedge. And I'd like to give a massive shout for the Callaway Mack Daddy 4. I couldn't be happier with the performance, the spin, the stability, the ease of use, the consistency and the flexibility of the X Grind. A wonderful club.

 

And if you're looking for spin, the Hi Toe and the MD4 seem to have the Vokey whipped, according to a couple of reviews I've read. I haven't tried the SM7, but I had an SM6 that I didn't care for and sold fairly soon after buying it.

 

Well so maybe I am thinking about this incorrectly. You list the Xgrind which has 12 degrees of bounce. From my understanding the more bounce the more the club head "bounces" off the ground instead of sweeping or digging? My biggest problem around the green is thinning my lob shots and blading them. That to me would mean that I am needing a low bounce wedge, and when using the low bounce vokey I never once thinned a shot (could be another factor I literally just started using one last week). Please correct me if I am wrong but I think the X grind would not work for me in this situation! Also the MD4s look beautiful I just do not think they are offering what I am looking for.

 

If I thin a chip or lob shot it’s normally because my weight was to far back in my stance, trying to hit up to get it to go up. I always hit my best chips and pitch shots weight my weight slightly forward, making sure to hit slightly down on the ball. Works greats for sand shots too, weight forwards and hit 2” behind the ball. :)

[davep043]

I don't think Vokeys are that expensive. If it works for you and improves your short game (better scoring) what's an extra $50 or whatever. To me the performance outweighs the cost anyday.

 

Well so the vokey is $195 and then an additional $25 for the KBS HI-REV 2.0 which is a shaft I love totaling $220. The Hi-Toe is 135.99 with that shaft on dsg today. I agree though and am more than happy to pay the difference if the club is worth it. I just did not know if the hi-toe compared and was just as good and yet cheaper.

I use my 60-8 Vokey for lots of different shots, from firm bunkers to low spinners to gentle flops to high gnarly rough to simple chips to 80-yard approaches. My wedge is 6 or 8 years old, and still works fine, and would work fine for you too. You're a 20+ handicap, don't worry about an up-charge shaft. Don't worry about the "perfect" club. I don't want to be insulting, but you're probably not good enough for any of it to make much difference. I strongly recommend looking through the used club bins, find a wedge or two that look good to you, with about the right bounce for your normal local conditions, and buy one. Put a new grip on it if needed, and learn to hit shots with it.

[Oveezy]

I say who cares about the money and buy the one you like to look at most. That’s if you can afford it of course. Don’t eat top Roman for a month just to get the wedge you think is best for you. Feeling confident and being confident when you are playing makes a world of a difference. If you think don’t blade it, you’re probably going to blade it more often then not. Plus if you do blade it at least it will give you another chance to use your wedge. Get your moneys worth...

[DFS PFD]

Scoring. They are good for scoring.

[sdandrea]

Lob wedge.

Huh.

Good Gawd, yall.

What is it good for?

Absolutely nothin!

 

Say it again!

 

[Valtiel]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say "lobbing".

 

Serious answer, it depends on what you need it for. Some people use a lob wedge for most stuff around the green, others for emergencies. Some people (myself included) like you use a very different type of grind on a lob wedge for utility purposes. Its all about your game and what you need it to do.

[Guia]

I have several, but just got the Taylor Made new lob wedge in 58 degree. Fantastic within 60 yards.

[larryd3]

I don’t think Vokeys are that expensive. If it works for you and improves your short game (better scoring) what’s an extra $50 or whatever. To me the performance outweighs the cost anyday.

 

Well so the vokey is $195 and then an additional $25 for the KBS HI-REV 2.0 which is a shaft I love totaling $220. The Hi-Toe is 135.99 with that shaft on dsg today. I agree though and am more than happy to pay the difference if the club is worth it. I just did not know if the hi-toe compared and was just as good and yet cheaper.

I just checked and Vokey SM7 is $150. For me the standard shafts work well.

[bkirkley09]

I don’t think Vokeys are that expensive. If it works for you and improves your short game (better scoring) what’s an extra $50 or whatever. To me the performance outweighs the cost anyday.

 

Well so the vokey is $195 and then an additional $25 for the KBS HI-REV 2.0 which is a shaft I love totaling $220. The Hi-Toe is 135.99 with that shaft on dsg today. I agree though and am more than happy to pay the difference if the club is worth it. I just did not know if the hi-toe compared and was just as good and yet cheaper.

I just checked and Vokey SM7 is $150. For me the standard shafts work well.

 

Ya but the k grind low bounce is wedgeworks only so not available through retail. This the $195 tag.

 

I have several, but just got the Taylor Made new lob wedge in 58 degree. Fantastic within 60 yards.

 

The Hi-toe?

[SwingMan]

I've used a 58-62 for over 20 years. Learn to use your body to turn and less arms when chipping, and you're good to go. The problem is too many of us want to use our arms too much - there is a time for everything. I will hinge the 60 a bit around the green to give it a low pop that will hit, bite and roll a couple of feet.

 

When chippin' off the green - turn your body with weight on front foot.

 

I use it for 60 yds and in depending on height I want and the green.

 

Bunker shots, shots from the rough. It's great. I tend to think about the 56 before the 60 and I have different grinds on both - so I have choices.

 

I looked at the K grind and will give it serious consideration ... when I have a Bandon Dunes Trip or play links style courses with hard ground. I'd have to adjust to a more shallow approach and I'm fairly neutral now -- It's a wide sole, low bounce club. Wish Titleist had demos of it because I typically do not like wide sole wedges.

[g-off]

90 yard skulls

[byoshio82]

I’ve had them both and ended up with a 58* D grind instead. Great out of the sand and can still nip it off tight lies.

[ago33]

Everything within 100 yards

[bkirkley09]

I've used a 58-62 for over 20 years. Learn to use your body to turn and less arms when chipping, and you're good to go. The problem is too many of us want to use our arms too much - there is a time for everything. I will hinge the 60 a bit around the green to give it a low pop that will hit, bite and roll a couple of feet.

 

When chippin' off the green - turn your body with weight on front foot.

 

I use it for 60 yds and in depending on height I want and the green.

 

Bunker shots, shots from the rough. It's great. I tend to think about the 56 before the 60 and I have different grinds on both - so I have choices.

 

I looked at the K grind and will give it serious consideration ... when I have a Bandon Dunes Trip or play links style courses with hard ground. I'd have to adjust to a more shallow approach and I'm fairly neutral now -- It's a wide sole, low bounce club. Wish Titleist had demos of it because I typically do not like wide sole wedges.

 

Thanks for all the information. You are definitely correct and I use my arms a lot in chipping. I also have a very shallow approach already so anything with a lot of bounce is really hard for me to control. I know they are supposed to be more forgiving but for me they just do not work well. The K grind feels as if it glides on top of the ground and makes perfect contact even with my swing so it was just a really nice feeling to be able to go after a shot and not worry about blading it.

[eagle1997]

Nothing whirlybirds like a lob wedge.

 

[bkirkley09]

Well so just a mini update but I actually went and tested the Hi-Toe tonight in 58 and 60 and while it is a great club its not really what I am after at this time. It still had a ton of bounce I think (ATV grind so no official bounce specs) on a normal shot (not manipulating the face open or closed) and it felt very light compared to the vokey line. I think it would be great out of bunkers though as it just shot the ball into the air with an effortless swing, however on tight lies I think I would still be too shallow to feel comfortable playing an aggressive shot around the greens. I may pick one up just for testing as it is a really awesome wedge for a specific use just like the k grind.

[BiggErn]

My 58 is my normal wedge. My 64 is my lob wedge. And I'd like to give a massive shout for the Callaway Mack Daddy 4. I couldn't be happier with the performance, the spin, the stability, the ease of use, the consistency and the flexibility of the X Grind. A wonderful club.

 

And if you're looking for spin, the Hi Toe and the MD4 seem to have the Vokey whipped, according to a couple of reviews I've read. I haven't tried the SM7, but I had an SM6 that I didn't care for and sold fairly soon after buying it.

 

Well so maybe I am thinking about this incorrectly. You list the Xgrind which has 12 degrees of bounce. From my understanding the more bounce the more the club head "bounces" off the ground instead of sweeping or digging? My biggest problem around the green is thinning my lob shots and blading them. That to me would mean that I am needing a low bounce wedge, and when using the low bounce vokey I never once thinned a shot (could be another factor I literally just started using one last week). Please correct me if I am wrong but I think the X grind would not work for me in this situation! Also the MD4s look beautiful I just do not think they are offering what I am looking for.

 

If you’re blading wedges it has zero to do with the bounce. And no bounce doesn’t cause the club to just bounce off the ground.

[dlygrisse]

My 58 is my normal wedge. My 64 is my lob wedge. And I'd like to give a massive shout for the Callaway Mack Daddy 4. I couldn't be happier with the performance, the spin, the stability, the ease of use, the consistency and the flexibility of the X Grind. A wonderful club.

 

And if you're looking for spin, the Hi Toe and the MD4 seem to have the Vokey whipped, according to a couple of reviews I've read. I haven't tried the SM7, but I had an SM6 that I didn't care for and sold fairly soon after buying it.

 

Well so maybe I am thinking about this incorrectly. You list the Xgrind which has 12 degrees of bounce. From my understanding the more bounce the more the club head "bounces" off the ground instead of sweeping or digging? My biggest problem around the green is thinning my lob shots and blading them. That to me would mean that I am needing a low bounce wedge, and when using the low bounce vokey I never once thinned a shot (could be another factor I literally just started using one last week). Please correct me if I am wrong but I think the X grind would not work for me in this situation! Also the MD4s look beautiful I just do not think they are offering what I am looking for.

 

If you’re blading wedges it has zero to do with the bounce. And no bounce doesn’t cause the club to just bounce off the ground.

 

If your blading you may not have enough bounce...you are worried about chunking and you tighten up and skull it. Having enough bounce encourages you to be aggressive and not decel

[Pulledabill]

I pulled my Eye 2 61 degree wedge as I seldom used it except at say 75 yards or sand. I went with Vokey and high boubce 58 which gave me better gapping and more uses...or so I thought. I was using it around the green but it failed me as I have never developed a great touch green side with it. I will use it in the sand where it performs really well, 85 yards, or where i want the ball to get uo and down in a hurry. I bring the 58 out much more then my 61 ever did.

 

If you can open and close with less lofted, save the money. I prefer "full shots" with my wedges as there is less variables to deal with.

[dnalepoca]

I have a ping glide 2.0 60* TS grind and really only use it when I need to flop, am short sided, or have a pitch over a bunker to a tightly tucked pin. I like it but usually teach for my 56* first