Cobra's new King F9 Speedback Driver, Woods, Hybrids and Irons (NO BUY SELL TRADE POSTS)

[golfgirlrobin]

I’ve got 7-8 rounds in with the fairways and hybrid. Loving the hybrid, it actually wants to fade, but not in love with the fairways. The baffler tech is great out of the light rough, but I’ve hit an awful lot of thin shots off the tighter fairway lies. I’m just not getting under the ball with any consistency and frequently feel like I’m bouncing into the ball.

 

Hit well, they feel great, and the matte/glossy combination looks great behind the ball, but they’re just not working for me.

 

 

 

[casey_0507]

Not sure if it has any bearing, but these drivers are only 45.25 when ordered without the arrcos grip.

 

And not sure about this year’s clubs, but I’ve noticed in the past Cobra clubs are 1/4” shorter than they state. So 43.25” was really 43”.

[Captain Morgan]

Emailed Cobra earlier today about shafts and automated response said someone will get back to me within 48 hours. It took about a hour to get a real response to my email. Seems so far like CS is good. My shaft won’t be in until mid March for both driver and fairway wood. Which means I have time to save up more FU money to pay for them. Sorry honey if you find out and don’t try you won’t find it.

[wobgon]

Emailed Cobra earlier today about shafts and automated response said someone will get back to me within 48 hours. It took about a hour to get a real response to my email. Seems so far like CS is good. My shaft won't be in until mid March for both driver and fairway wood. Which means I have time to save up more FU money to pay for them. Sorry honey if you find out and don't try you won't find it.

What is your shaft?

[nsxguy]

OK, so I tried the F9 again today.

 

The previous time I'd hit it with the Atmos (Black ?) and struggled.

 

Today I picked out 2 other shafts, the Aldila 2NKV(?) 60 weight stiff and the Evenflow Blue, also 60 weight stiff.

 

With the Alidla I was all over the place, definitely not a fit.

 

With the Evenflow however I got some really good results. About 4 MPH more ball speed than my previous best with the Honma 747/455. And very low spin, averaging in the low 2,000s. Impressive.

 

Problem was consistency and dispersion though. While the better hits were very good and even some slight misses were also very good the consistency and dispersion left a lot to be desired. But I DO see the higher ball speeds and the forgiveness near the sweet spot and can certainly understand how someone more consistent than I can fall in love with it.

 

I'll try it again in future sessions, with the Evenflow again and see if there are any other shafts available.

[jcg132]

Not sure if it has any bearing, but these drivers are only 45.25 when ordered without the arrcos grip.

 

And not sure about this year’s clubs, but I’ve noticed in the past Cobra clubs are 1/4” shorter than they state. So 43.25” was really 43”.

 

The standard lengths are with the cobra connect grips. If you choose a normal grip, you need to add length to compensate. You can see this on the spec charts for each club on the cobra site.

[t4t3r]

Confirmed my order this evening with an expected ship date in the first week of February. I’ll take it.

[Captain Morgan]

Emailed Cobra earlier today about shafts and automated response said someone will get back to me within 48 hours. It took about a hour to get a real response to my email. Seems so far like CS is good. My shaft won't be in until mid March for both driver and fairway wood. Which means I have time to save up more FU money to pay for them. Sorry honey if you find out and don't try you won't find it.

What is your shaft?

 

PX EvenFlow T1100 White x-stiff.

[Jagpilotohio]

OK, so I tried the F9 again today.

 

The previous time I'd hit it with the Atmos (Black ?) and struggled.

 

Today I picked out 2 other shafts, the Aldila 2NKV(?) 60 weight stiff and the Evenflow Blue, also 60 weight stiff.

 

With the Alidla I was all over the place, definitely not a fit.

 

With the Evenflow however I got some really good results. About 4 MPH more ball speed than my previous best with the Honma 747/455. And very low spin, averaging in the low 2,000s. Impressive.

 

Problem was consistency and dispersion though. While the better hits were very good and even some slight misses were also very good the consistency and dispersion left a lot to be desired. But I DO see the higher ball speeds and the forgiveness near the sweet spot and can certainly understand how someone more consistent than I can fall in love with it.

 

I'll try it again in future sessions, with the Evenflow again and see if there are any other shafts available.

 

Consistency and dispersion issues? Two words for you:

 

Tour length.

[stk123]

OK, so I tried the F9 again today.

 

The previous time I'd hit it with the Atmos (Black ?) and struggled.

 

Today I picked out 2 other shafts, the Aldila 2NKV(?) 60 weight stiff and the Evenflow Blue, also 60 weight stiff.

 

With the Alidla I was all over the place, definitely not a fit.

 

With the Evenflow however I got some really good results. About 4 MPH more ball speed than my previous best with the Honma 747/455. And very low spin, averaging in the low 2,000s. Impressive.

 

Problem was consistency and dispersion though. While the better hits were very good and even some slight misses were also very good the consistency and dispersion left a lot to be desired. But I DO see the higher ball speeds and the forgiveness near the sweet spot and can certainly understand how someone more consistent than I can fall in love with it.

 

I'll try it again in future sessions, with the Evenflow again and see if there are any other shafts available.

 

Consistency and dispersion issues? Two words for you:

 

Tour length.

 

Not always true, I actually got more consistent with a longer shaft (in addition to better launch conditions as I swung more shallow). Also used the same shafts (as I did in other heads at club champion) in my F9 testing on multiple occasions and I was just all over the place with the F9 (pretty much either left or hard left). Some heads just don't work for all players.

 

That said, I might actually buy an F9 driver anyway to test on the course. I will sell it for a "demo fee" loss if it doesn't work.

[Jagpilotohio]

OK, so I tried the F9 again today.

 

The previous time I'd hit it with the Atmos (Black ?) and struggled.

 

Today I picked out 2 other shafts, the Aldila 2NKV(?) 60 weight stiff and the Evenflow Blue, also 60 weight stiff.

 

With the Alidla I was all over the place, definitely not a fit.

 

With the Evenflow however I got some really good results. About 4 MPH more ball speed than my previous best with the Honma 747/455. And very low spin, averaging in the low 2,000s. Impressive.

 

Problem was consistency and dispersion though. While the better hits were very good and even some slight misses were also very good the consistency and dispersion left a lot to be desired. But I DO see the higher ball speeds and the forgiveness near the sweet spot and can certainly understand how someone more consistent than I can fall in love with it.

 

I'll try it again in future sessions, with the Evenflow again and see if there are any other shafts available.

 

Consistency and dispersion issues? Two words for you:

 

Tour length.

 

Not always true, I actually got more consistent with a longer shaft (in addition to better launch conditions as I swung more shallow). Also used the same shafts (as I did in other heads at club champion) in my F9 testing on multiple occasions and I was just all over the place with the F9 (pretty much either left or hard left). Some heads just don't work for all players.

 

That said, I might actually buy an F9 driver anyway to test on the course. I will sell it for a "demo fee" loss if it doesn't work.

 

Did you adjust the swingweight when you tried the shorter shafts? If not it’s a waste of time.

 

Anyone that tests a shorter shaft and Doesn’t concern themselves with adjusting the swingweight is doing it wrong.

 

Even if you have to buy lead tape in the shop and borrow their scale to make the changes, you MUST adjust the swingweight when testing different length shafts.

[stk123]

OK, so I tried the F9 again today.

 

The previous time I'd hit it with the Atmos (Black ?) and struggled.

 

Today I picked out 2 other shafts, the Aldila 2NKV(?) 60 weight stiff and the Evenflow Blue, also 60 weight stiff.

 

With the Alidla I was all over the place, definitely not a fit.

 

With the Evenflow however I got some really good results. About 4 MPH more ball speed than my previous best with the Honma 747/455. And very low spin, averaging in the low 2,000s. Impressive.

 

Problem was consistency and dispersion though. While the better hits were very good and even some slight misses were also very good the consistency and dispersion left a lot to be desired. But I DO see the higher ball speeds and the forgiveness near the sweet spot and can certainly understand how someone more consistent than I can fall in love with it.

 

I'll try it again in future sessions, with the Evenflow again and see if there are any other shafts available.

 

Consistency and dispersion issues? Two words for you:

 

Tour length.

 

Not always true, I actually got more consistent with a longer shaft (in addition to better launch conditions as I swung more shallow). Also used the same shafts (as I did in other heads at club champion) in my F9 testing on multiple occasions and I was just all over the place with the F9 (pretty much either left or hard left). Some heads just don't work for all players.

 

That said, I might actually buy an F9 driver anyway to test on the course. I will sell it for a "demo fee" loss if it doesn't work.

 

Did you adjust the swingweight when you tried the shorter shafts? If not it’s a waste of time.

 

Anyone that tests a shorter shaft and Doesn’t concern themselves with adjusting the swingweight is doing it wrong.

 

Even if you have to buy lead tape in the shop and borrow their scale to make the changes, you MUST adjust the swingweight when testing different length shafts.

 

My gamer driver is 44.75" and I just get too steep with it. I tried a bunch of 45.5" drivers and get more shallow due to longer shaft.

 

Swingweight has nothing to do with it as my gamer driver was the same swing weight as the other drivers. But by being 0.75" shorter, I was much steeper and creating too much spin.

 

Shorter driver is not always better for playability. In my case it was doing the exact opposite of what I needed.

[casey_0507]

Not sure if it has any bearing, but these drivers are only 45.25 when ordered without the arrcos grip.

 

And not sure about this year’s clubs, but I’ve noticed in the past Cobra clubs are 1/4” shorter than they state. So 43.25” was really 43”.

 

The standard lengths are with the cobra connect grips. If you choose a normal grip, you need to add length to compensate. You can see this on the spec charts for each club on the cobra site.

 

The Arccos has nothing to do with. With arrcos cobra states 43.5” and actual measurement with arrcos grip is 43.25”. With standard grip cobra states 43.25” and actually measured to 43”.

 

This was the case at least the with F7 and F8 lines in my experience. Again, not sure if that’s still the case.

[Jagpilotohio]

OK, so I tried the F9 again today.

 

The previous time I'd hit it with the Atmos (Black ?) and struggled.

 

Today I picked out 2 other shafts, the Aldila 2NKV(?) 60 weight stiff and the Evenflow Blue, also 60 weight stiff.

 

With the Alidla I was all over the place, definitely not a fit.

 

With the Evenflow however I got some really good results. About 4 MPH more ball speed than my previous best with the Honma 747/455. And very low spin, averaging in the low 2,000s. Impressive.

 

Problem was consistency and dispersion though. While the better hits were very good and even some slight misses were also very good the consistency and dispersion left a lot to be desired. But I DO see the higher ball speeds and the forgiveness near the sweet spot and can certainly understand how someone more consistent than I can fall in love with it.

 

I'll try it again in future sessions, with the Evenflow again and see if there are any other shafts available.

 

Consistency and dispersion issues? Two words for you:

 

Tour length.

 

Not always true, I actually got more consistent with a longer shaft (in addition to better launch conditions as I swung more shallow). Also used the same shafts (as I did in other heads at club champion) in my F9 testing on multiple occasions and I was just all over the place with the F9 (pretty much either left or hard left). Some heads just don't work for all players.

 

That said, I might actually buy an F9 driver anyway to test on the course. I will sell it for a "demo fee" loss if it doesn't work.

 

Did you adjust the swingweight when you tried the shorter shafts? If not it’s a waste of time.

 

Anyone that tests a shorter shaft and Doesn’t concern themselves with adjusting the swingweight is doing it wrong.

 

Even if you have to buy lead tape in the shop and borrow their scale to make the changes, you MUST adjust the swingweight when testing different length shafts.

 

My gamer driver is 44.75" and I just get too steep with it. I tried a bunch of 45.5" drivers and get more shallow due to longer shaft.

 

Swingweight has nothing to do with it as my gamer driver was the same swing weight as the other drivers. But by being 0.75" shorter, I was much steeper and creating too much spin.

 

Shorter driver is not always better for playability. In my case it was doing the exact opposite of what I needed.

 

I apparently misread your post. I thought you were testing shorter shafts recently.

 

Far too many people, and “fitters” for that matter, don’t adjust swingweight while changing shaft lengths. It doesn’t make sense.

[wobgon]

Not sure if it has any bearing, but these drivers are only 45.25 when ordered without the arrcos grip.

 

And not sure about this year’s clubs, but I’ve noticed in the past Cobra clubs are 1/4” shorter than they state. So 43.25” was really 43”.

 

The standard lengths are with the cobra connect grips. If you choose a normal grip, you need to add length to compensate. You can see this on the spec charts for each club on the cobra site.

 

The Arccos has nothing to do with. With arrcos cobra states 43.5” and actual measurement with arrcos grip is 43.25”. With standard grip cobra states 43.25” and actually measured to 43”.

 

This was the case at least the with F7 and F8 lines in my experience. Again, not sure if that’s still the case.

On the cobra web site it says 45.50 with the arccos grip and 45.25 without......

[willseo]

Just ordered a F9, Fuji pro 2.0, d4.5, golf pride grip. Should spin about 2000 and fly about 330 and run to 360.

Lol

[dciccoritti]

OK, so I tried the F9 again today.

 

The previous time I'd hit it with the Atmos (Black ?) and struggled.

 

Today I picked out 2 other shafts, the Aldila 2NKV(?) 60 weight stiff and the Evenflow Blue, also 60 weight stiff.

 

With the Alidla I was all over the place, definitely not a fit.

 

With the Evenflow however I got some really good results. About 4 MPH more ball speed than my previous best with the Honma 747/455. And very low spin, averaging in the low 2,000s. Impressive.

 

Problem was consistency and dispersion though. While the better hits were very good and even some slight misses were also very good the consistency and dispersion left a lot to be desired. But I DO see the higher ball speeds and the forgiveness near the sweet spot and can certainly understand how someone more consistent than I can fall in love with it.

 

I'll try it again in future sessions, with the Evenflow again and see if there are any other shafts available.

 

6.0 or 6.5 with the Even Flow? I think there's a big difference between the 2 in terms of torque. Also maybe try the EF Black 6.0.

[casey_0507]

Not sure if it has any bearing, but these drivers are only 45.25 when ordered without the arrcos grip.

 

And not sure about this year’s clubs, but I’ve noticed in the past Cobra clubs are 1/4†shorter than they state. So 43.25†was really 43â€.

 

The standard lengths are with the cobra connect grips. If you choose a normal grip, you need to add length to compensate. You can see this on the spec charts for each club on the cobra site.

 

The Arccos has nothing to do with. With arrcos cobra states 43.5†and actual measurement with arrcos grip is 43.25â€. With standard grip cobra states 43.25†and actually measured to 43â€.

 

This was the case at least the with F7 and F8 lines in my experience. Again, not sure if that’s still the case.

On the cobra web site it says 45.50 with the arccos grip and 45.25 without......

 

I was giving lengths for their 3/4 the last couple of years. IF their measurements hold true to the last couple years, the. I'd expect the driver with arccos to actually measure 45.25" and without to measure 45"

 

My F9 3/4 with Arcoss grip stock says 43.5" but it measure just under 43.25". I'm not sure how cobra measures their clubs but the last few years they are .25" under what they say.

[awtryau89]

I think Cobra measures total length with grip on. Thats how mine came. I am dead on 45" with grip which means it would probably measure just over 44.75". Many Mfgs measure without grip then the cap adds 1/4" to the total. The connect grip is longer so it adds another 1/4" or so.

[3woodvt]

Checking to see if My Atmos Black TS 6S got shipped or not after ordering Monday and now Cobra not listing it on their website...Holding my breath.

[GooseHook]

Question about the "Tour Length" versions Cobra does. Do they butt trim the club or tip trim it when it's tour length?

 

If I decide to order one, I'm going to request 1/2" total tipping. Figure a note like that will clear up any confusion.

 

Anyone in the know, does Cobra still do straight-in installs with their adapter? I never heard of them tipping anything. The MyFly adapter is one of the few that doesn't have a cog-type end which must shorten up the BBGM.

[Jagpilotohio]

Question about the "Tour Length" versions Cobra does. Do they butt trim the club or tip trim it when it's tour length?

 

If I decide to order one, I'm going to request 1/2" total tipping. Figure a note like that will clear up any confusion.

 

Anyone in the know, does Cobra still do straight-in installs with their adapter? I never heard of them tipping anything. The MyFly adapter is one of the few that doesn't have a cog-type end which must shorten up the BBGM.

 

I posted earlier about it. I spoke with one of their techs about it directly. Cobra only uses manufacturer suggested tipping, which most of the time is zero for a driver.

 

If you want specific tipping you must include it on your order. Anyone wanting a tour length should consider asking for tipping. Cutting off an inch and adding 8 grams of weight will definitely soften up the club a bit. That might actually be positive for someone in between flexes. If you’ve always been between a S and an X, it might be just great, but if you want a stout X in a tour length you should definitely ask for it tipped.

[nsxguy]

OK, so I tried the F9 again today.

 

The previous time I'd hit it with the Atmos (Black ?) and struggled.

 

Today I picked out 2 other shafts, the Aldila 2NKV(?) 60 weight stiff and the Evenflow Blue, also 60 weight stiff.

 

With the Alidla I was all over the place, definitely not a fit.

 

With the Evenflow however I got some really good results. About 4 MPH more ball speed than my previous best with the Honma 747/455. And very low spin, averaging in the low 2,000s. Impressive.

 

Problem was consistency and dispersion though. While the better hits were very good and even some slight misses were also very good the consistency and dispersion left a lot to be desired. But I DO see the higher ball speeds and the forgiveness near the sweet spot and can certainly understand how someone more consistent than I can fall in love with it.

 

I'll try it again in future sessions, with the Evenflow again and see if there are any other shafts available.

 

6.0 or 6.5 with the Even Flow? I think there's a big difference between the 2 in terms of torque. Also maybe try the EF Black 6.0.

 

6.0. While I've actually had some success with a 6.5, to my surprise with my puny 94 mph swing speed, I usually stick to 6.0/stiff in most shafts.

 

Haven't tried the EF black. The store has limited shafts available for this head (right now ?).

[GooseHook]

Question about the "Tour Length" versions Cobra does. Do they butt trim the club or tip trim it when it's tour length?

 

If I decide to order one, I'm going to request 1/2" total tipping. Figure a note like that will clear up any confusion.

 

Anyone in the know, does Cobra still do straight-in installs with their adapter? I never heard of them tipping anything. The MyFly adapter is one of the few that doesn't have a cog-type end which must shorten up the BBGM.

 

I posted earlier about it. I spoke with one of their techs about it directly. Cobra only uses manufacturer suggested tipping, which most of the time is zero for a driver.

 

If you want specific tipping you must include it on your order. Anyone wanting a tour length should consider asking for tipping. Cutting off an inch and adding 8 grams of weight will definitely soften up the club a bit. That might actually be positive for someone in between flexes. If you've always been between a S and an X, it might be just great, but if you want a stout X in a tour length you should definitely ask for it tipped.

 

Thanks, I looked through but must have missed your post.

 

I know Fuji suggests NOT tipping the Atmos Black, but with all that head weight I'd tip it a half inch anyway. I'm used to TM's tipping and play short drivers with extra weight. I don't think I've ever put a shaft straight in. Only exception would be something with an uber stiff tip like a Kuro Kage XT or XD.

[3woodvt]

Checking to see if My Atmos Black TS 6S got shipped or not after ordering Monday and now Cobra not listing it on their website...Holding my breath.

Just found out my F9 Atmos TS Black 6s arrived today. Was told it was on backorder for 4 weeks for that's shaft combo but appears I just got my order in time. Ordered Monday received Friday...Happy times!

[Crazy 8]

OK, so I tried the F9 again today.

 

The previous time I'd hit it with the Atmos (Black ?) and struggled.

 

Today I picked out 2 other shafts, the Aldila 2NKV(?) 60 weight stiff and the Evenflow Blue, also 60 weight stiff.

 

With the Alidla I was all over the place, definitely not a fit.

 

With the Evenflow however I got some really good results. About 4 MPH more ball speed than my previous best with the Honma 747/455. And very low spin, averaging in the low 2,000s. Impressive.

 

Problem was consistency and dispersion though. While the better hits were very good and even some slight misses were also very good the consistency and dispersion left a lot to be desired. But I DO see the higher ball speeds and the forgiveness near the sweet spot and can certainly understand how someone more consistent than I can fall in love with it.

 

I'll try it again in future sessions, with the Evenflow again and see if there are any other shafts available.

 

Why have you not tried with the Hzrdus Smoke Black 60?

[Krt22]

Dang it, found a decent deal on the F9. I was fit into the speeder evolution V 757...but the no upcharge for the Atmos TS is very enticing. The TS blue 7x and the Evo V have very similar butt/tip stiffness values from the Fuji website, but not sure how the over-all profile is. I had great numbers with the 757 so didn't try too many other shafts, wish I had given the atmos a whirl!

[wobgon]

I was ready to order one of these but decided to go with the VixaV12 instead.

[Z1ggy16]

Dang it, found a decent deal on the F9. I was fit into the speeder evolution V 757...but the no upcharge for the Atmos TS is very enticing. The TS blue 7x and the Evo V have very similar butt/tip stiffness values from the Fuji website, but not sure how the over-all profile is. I had great numbers with the 757 so didn't try too many other shafts, wish I had given the atmos a whirl!

YMMV but I found the Evo Speeder's to feel very different to Atmos, despite what it says on paper.

 

Evo shafts are known (at least all the ones I hit, evo speeder ii, iii, iv) for fairly pronounced kicks. To me... the Atmos was not lively at all and I barely felt any loading effect, even in the blue. I've hit both the blue and black atmos in the 6 driver, and the hybrids and the feel was fairly the same; lack of pop/kick/energy transfer. The speeders were absolute kicking mules to me compared to that. Not whippy as the tips are quite stable... but they must drop off in mid stiffness a good amount. Fairly "rare" profile IMO with the Speeders... tip stiff, softer middles, stiff butt. The Atmos felt more like stiff, stiff, slightly less stiff.

 

This was during fittings too and I hit the Speeders much better than either Atmos.

[nsxguy]

OK, so I tried the F9 again today.

 

The previous time I'd hit it with the Atmos (Black ?) and struggled.

 

Today I picked out 2 other shafts, the Aldila 2NKV(?) 60 weight stiff and the Evenflow Blue, also 60 weight stiff.

 

With the Alidla I was all over the place, definitely not a fit.

 

With the Evenflow however I got some really good results. About 4 MPH more ball speed than my previous best with the Honma 747/455. And very low spin, averaging in the low 2,000s. Impressive.

 

Problem was consistency and dispersion though. While the better hits were very good and even some slight misses were also very good the consistency and dispersion left a lot to be desired. But I DO see the higher ball speeds and the forgiveness near the sweet spot and can certainly understand how someone more consistent than I can fall in love with it.

 

I'll try it again in future sessions, with the Evenflow again and see if there are any other shafts available.

 

Why have you not tried with the Hzrdus Smoke Black 60?

 

Would love to but they don't have it (or I couldn't find it). Their shaft selection right now for the new head is rather limited. If I find it I will try it as I love my current Hzrdus Black (in my Fusion).

 

I think they changed the adapter this year ?