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My bet is the irons were designed for TW and Rory and the rest fitted in. All the efforts to get Tigers irons from nike etc etc and the Rors proto nonsense. Then the putter attention for the red spider the Day got......Rose maybe felt a bit sidelined despite being the more consistent performer ?

 

Not good for spirit or motivation in the camp. Probably doesn't bother DJ

 

There's absolutely no way this move was about equipment. The Rose protos were made to the exact shape, specs, and performance he wanted, as were the protos for all the other guys. It was never a situation where he was forced to play a club designed for someone else. And putter attention? Huh? Were they supposed to promote the ARC more when he used that, or the Ardmore 2 after that? I don't understand that comment at all.

 

Look, it's pretty clear that this was a business decision. Rose likely wanted #1 in the world, DJ/Rory type money and TM was unwilling to pay that. Their endorsement strategy has definitely changed since the divestiture from adidas. Mark King has a past relationship with Rose and wanted to make a big splash for Honma, so he brought in someone with whom he has a prior relationship...and just happens to be one of the best players in the world over the past few seasons.

 

I wish JR nothing but the best. I hope he gets what he wants out of this deal.

 

I’m thinking it was more of a business decision on TM part to not resign him and therefore logical that former TM bids now with Honma gets him to come over. Rumor is TM is signing some pros in non traditional roles. Sounds like Fowler is going to be playing their ball. Rose doesn’t fit into the pic if they are signing guys they can market better and signing Rickie to play the bsll is huge

 

Rumor is definitely “ non traditional “. Like “ Furloughesq” type non traditional stuff.

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So funny the idiots saying “ he left for the money “ on Twitter. TM pushed him off. They don’t want to pay what he’s worth.

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I’m very impressed with many of the posts here...had stopped even checking wrx for a couple years because of all the ignorant troll/bullies who seemed to be convinced that scores were dependent on gear and all hit 300+ yard drives and 200 yard 7 irons...but was surprised at how many wrx’ers now get it...gear is fun and a personal thing and people are quirky but it doesn’t take any real genius to figure out that equipment plays a very small role in overall performance...

 

This was a fun thread, I’m back wrx, you’ve evolved posters, well done...

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I’m very impressed with many of the posts here...had stopped even checking wrx for a couple years because of all the ignorant troll/bullies who seemed to be convinced that scores were dependent on gear and all hit 300+ yard drives and 200 yard 7 irons...but was surprised at how many wrx’ers now get it...gear is fun and a personal thing and people are quirky but it doesn’t take any real genius to figure out that equipment plays a very small role in overall performance...

 

This was a fun thread, I’m back wrx, you’ve evolved posters, well done...

 

I'd make sure not to open any other threads...

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Looks like an Axis putter is in the bag as well!

 

 

Greg

 

 

 

Rocking a combo set too. They are pretty slick looking irons. I like the finish.

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Every year this happens and people talk about money as if there's a tremendous amount being thrown around in these deals, but no one ever seems to know the numbers. Does anyone actually know the figures involved here? I always feel like we overestimate the value of these deals.

 

Pat Perez talked about this recently, might if been Ryan Palmer can't remember. Either way he said it's best to just play what you like and get tournament results. You can make the same amount in a good finish or two, why risk results being forced to play something.

 

I recently read the Ryan Palmer Q&A where he talks club contracts, figures are mentioned:

http://www.golfwrx.com/536210/ryan-palmer-on-switching-irons-learning-the-game-in-texas-and-why-he-doesnt-have-an-equipment-contract/

 

Thanks, believe that was it. Don’t get why Rose would set up a contract with Honma to be stuck playing whatever deal he signs. Highly unlikely they are paying him more than a single top 5 finish which he can do any given week

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So .... how long until the deal is done with Parsons buying Taylormade ?

 

Call it a feeling.

 

A feeling or a hunch?

 

Hard to say.

 

Let’s call it a hypothesis for now. Just wanted to get it on the record , for posterity sake.

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So .... how long until the deal is done with Parsons buying Taylormade ?

 

Call it a feeling.

 

A feeling or a hunch?

 

Hard to say.

 

Maybe indigestion?

 

Lol yep. I do have that. Ate some terrible Applebee’s tonight. They are forever on “ the list “. See above edit -^

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I bet he goes to Titleist ball. If you're playing overpriced irons how could you play anything else?

 

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Looks like Casey definitely has new irons, might jut be Honma.

 

 

 

Yes, good catch. Looks like a Honma TW-U utility, just like what is in Rose's bag in the promo shots. I don't think this tells us anything about the rest of Casey's bag makeup, however.

 

 

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I reckon it tells us a lot

 

My point was simply that it's a utility iron; something that stands alone outside of a set of irons. You can't infer that his irons are also Honma, unlike if the club had been a 7-iron, for example.

 

But I'd agree that there's a decent chance there might be more in the bag.

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I bet he goes to Titleist ball. If you're playing overpriced irons how could you play anything else?

 

Honma Tour World line is not overpriced, the ones you're referring to is their BERES line.

 

Their TWorld line is good and affordable, not that much more expensive than the other OEMs

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My bet is the irons were designed for TW and Rory and the rest fitted in. All the efforts to get Tigers irons from nike etc etc and the Rors proto nonsense. Then the putter attention for the red spider the Day got......Rose maybe felt a bit sidelined despite being the more consistent performer ?

 

Not good for spirit or motivation in the camp. Probably doesn't bother DJ

 

There's absolutely no way this move was about equipment. The Rose protos were made to the exact shape, specs, and performance he wanted, as were the protos for all the other guys. It was never a situation where he was forced to play a club designed for someone else. And putter attention? Huh? Were they supposed to promote the ARC more when he used that, or the Ardmore 2 after that? I don't understand that comment at all.

 

Look, it's pretty clear that this was a business decision. Rose likely wanted #1 in the world, DJ/Rory type money and TM was unwilling to pay that. Their endorsement strategy has definitely changed since the divestiture from adidas. Mark King has a past relationship with Rose and wanted to make a big splash for Honma, so he brought in someone with whom he has a prior relationship...and just happens to be one of the best players in the world over the past few seasons.

 

I wish JR nothing but the best. I hope he gets what he wants out of this deal.

 

I’m thinking it was more of a business decision on TM part to not resign him and therefore logical that former TM bids now with Honma gets him to come over. Rumor is TM is signing some pros in non traditional roles. Sounds like Fowler is going to be playing their ball. Rose doesn’t fit into the pic if they are signing guys they can market better and signing Rickie to play the bsll is huge

....funny cuz I like rickie but the dude is over rated performance wise......not even close to Rose
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