Tour Titleist TSi 2 & TSi 3 driver and 3 woods - 2020 Safeway Open

[btyh]

3 minutes ago, nsxguy said:

 

Why ?

Nothing at all. Im being too picky about playing. Either too wet or too windy and of course the main reason is I'm still waiting on my tsi3 15 arrival. I sold my ts3 15 already and even though I would only use my 3 wood twice during a round of 18 I just feel incomplete without it haha

[dropkicked]

3 hours ago, btyh said:

Nothing at all. Im being too picky about playing. Either too wet or too windy and of course the main reason is I'm still waiting on my tsi3 15 arrival. I sold my ts3 15 already and even though I would only use my 3 wood twice during a round of 18 I just feel incomplete without it haha

My new sticks are the living room, because I had to shovel twice this week....

Now go and play! 😅

[halfsumo]

Got my driver today. TSi3 with ventus black 6S. Ordered it stock length at D4 and it has the green -2g weight. No wrench. Will be taking it out on Sunday. 

[Hookasaurus Rex]

29 minutes ago, halfsumo said:

Got my driver today. TSi3 with ventus black 6S. Ordered it stock length at D4 and it has the green -2g weight. No wrench. Will be taking it out on Sunday. 

Why did you go from TX in pro white to stiff in Ventus black.  The Ventus can’t be that much stiffer?...  I’ve got a TSi3 with Tour AD XC 6X that should be delivered tomorrow- just in time to sit in the corner and get stared at all winter!

[Mitchell]

TSI3 10* set at D1 surefit with red weight set at T1, Atmos TS black 6s at 44.75”, NDMC black +2 wraps left, +3 right, swingweight d4.

Very well pleased with initial results👍🏻

[Sfd732]

I have a few rounds under my belt with my TSi2 with tensei white x 60g, albeit REALLY cold ones. Coming from my f9 with ventus blue the TSi just wants to go straight and feels amazing. I did change my set up just a bit, but I have never felt more confident in a driver, it just finds fairways for me. I have a hzrdus smoke green coming this week to test out, we will see how that feels. I really like the Tensei though, and love the complete package. Now I am wondering how a Tsi3 would work out in the real world for me vs on a monitor, may have to give 1 a try in the spring.

[Morry]

How Fade-biased is the tsi3 vs the tsi2 or your prior driver?

 

coming from ping 410plus 

 

thanks

[btyh]

23 minutes ago, Morry said:

How Fade-biased is the tsi3 vs the tsi2 or your prior driver?

 

coming from ping 410plus 

 

thanks

Tsi3 is more fade bias than the ts3 for me 

[golffeen007]

41 minutes ago, Morry said:

How Fade-biased is the tsi3 vs the tsi2 or your prior driver?

 

coming from ping 410plus 

 

thanks

The head and toe shape of the TSi3 gives more confidence over the TS3 but I can fade both fairly easily. Slight edge to TSi3 for me.

[rouski12]

2 hours ago, Morry said:

How Fade-biased is the tsi3 vs the tsi2 or your prior driver?

 

coming from ping 410plus 

 

thanks

 

Coming from TS3/4 with some swing changes..

The pull hook was my miss and I haven't hit one yet in like five rounds. I don't think it could be all club but it has to be part of it.

[Nixhex524]

Lots of info in here so I apologize if this has been covered but I am thinking about upgrading my fww now.... I love the 917, the face seems hot but would love something a little friendlier through the ground if that's possible.  Anyone upgrade to the TSi fww from the 917? 

 

Watched the TXG vid last night and it seems the TSi can keep up with anything so I am thinking going TSi2 16.5 with the AV Raw White 75 to match the driver...  Is it worth it to go to the TSi2 fww?  

[Golf10]

Was getting some clubs re-gripped yesterday so I wanted to try out the new TSI3.  My normal driver is a 917D3 with AD DI6X.  Average distance is around 290.  

 

The TSI looks great.  The feel was solid.  Honestly I didn't notice too much difference from my 917.  Tried the 9 degree in both Tensei white and blue X and S.  After 12 swings monitor was showing me at max hitting it 270.  I was surprised how short it was.  I think it was the monitor as I didn't have a chance to hit my 917 on there.  

 

Overall I was impressed with the club, just hoping to get a real fitting or hit it outdoors.  My other take is what a great shaft the AD DI is.  The feel is light years better than the Tensei IMO.

[drbonesvt]

Settings 

 

Fw ended up at C1 neutral or draw weight 

allows a draw or fade 

 

driver ended up at b1 | c1 sometimes a little too low , d1 works well also need a little more testing  , nice power fade .  I found that it’s very easy to put up in the front of the stance and launch the hell out of it , which is a nice paring with my + 3 ish aoa 

 

a note for me ,, the flat settings are a great feeling at set up , I have a bad habit of letting my right hand get too strong , which I feel is a product of upright , getting the hands in an almost unco*ked position.  Upright I’ll move the right hand more neutral upright tends to pull my right shoulder down and open 

 

 

[Nixhex524]

15 minutes ago, drbonesvt said:

Settings 

 

Fw ended up at C1 neutral or draw weight 

allows a draw or fade 

 

driver ended up at b1 | c1 sometimes a little too low , d1 works well also need a little more testing  , nice power fade .  I found that it’s very easy to put up in the front of the stance and launch the hell out of it , which is a nice paring with my + 3 ish aoa 

 

a note for me ,, the flat settings are a great feeling at set up , I have a bad habit of letting my right hand get too strong , which I feel is a product of upright , getting the hands in an almost unco*ked position.  Upright I’ll move the right hand more neutral upright tends to pull my right shoulder down and open 

 

 

That is so true and I find is when I hit my best drives... fitter has my TSi2 in the D4 position which is a setting I have NEVER tried in any Titleist driver.  

 

Whats your feeling on the FWW so far?  How is the turf interaction?

[drbonesvt]

34 minutes ago, Nixhex524 said:

That is so true and I find is when I hit my best drives... fitter has my TSi2 in the D4 position which is a setting I have NEVER tried in any Titleist driver.  

 

Whats your feeling on the FWW so far?  How is the turf interaction?

Better than the sim , and I like the sim immensely.  
 

off the tee they are about the same 

fw , titleist is a hair better 

[halfsumo]

14 hours ago, Hookasaurus Rex said:

Why did you go from TX in pro white to stiff in Ventus black.  The Ventus can’t be that much stiffer?...  I’ve got a TSi3 with Tour AD XC 6X that should be delivered tomorrow- just in time to sit in the corner and get stared at all winter!

First, my stay-at-home-no-gym body is not swinging as fast these days.  Second, at 105-108mph, I am always in between a stout S and a softer X, but if it gets too stiff by a hair, I can't swing it well and shots never feel solid. Last fitting was fit for Pro White TX and the second best fitting option was Atmos Black 6S. I owned the Atmos Black 6S and it was great for me. I also owned a Ventus Blue in 6S that was tipped a bit and it performed, but felt kind of lifeless, perhaps too stiff due to the tipping. IMO, certain Mitsubishi X flex shafts can play or at least feel softer than other OEM's. Maybe due to the torque, I can feel and time them better. Pro White TX has like 4.3 torque. But I usually have no trouble playing any kind of X in Mitsubishi or Graphite Design. The TX in the Pro White is really just an X flex, it isn't a step up in stiffness like the difference between say Graphite Design X and TX shafts. Long story short, with the stouter profile and tip of the Ventus Black, I thought the X would be too much. I wasn't fit for it, just have been wanting to try it for a while given my success with Atmos Black and figured it would be an easy sell if it doesn't work. If it doesn't, I'll just swap the tip on my Pro White which is now my "plug into anything and it just works shaft".

[BeyondVision]

13 hours ago, Sfd732 said:

I have a few rounds under my belt with my TSi2 with tensei white x 60g, albeit REALLY cold ones. Coming from my f9 with ventus blue the TSi just wants to go straight and feels amazing. I did change my set up just a bit, but I have never felt more confident in a driver, it just finds fairways for me. I have a hzrdus smoke green coming this week to test out, we will see how that feels. I really like the Tensei though, and love the complete package. Now I am wondering how a Tsi3 would work out in the real world for me vs on a monitor, may have to give 1 a try in the spring.

 

I thought i was the only one...which ventus blue were you playing with?  I have a ventus blue 6x in a SIM right now and when I was testing the TSI2 with tensei white raw x i thought it was so much easier to hit and to go straight...I have been having lots of problems with my driver lately, missing left (i am a lefty) and losing 20-30 yards or so...I have a feeling that the ventus might be a little bit too stiff, and when I am not warmed up I am suffering....I ended up ordering the TSI2 with the tensei and with no additional up charge helped the decision. My swing speed is around 105-110 so I think i'm right on the border.  Thought about ordering a blue ventus 6s and tipping it .5" or something.  Or possibly trying the red ventus or black 6s may pair well with the high launch of tsi2....or just save my money and work with the stock shaft for a bit.  Also have a TSI2 16.5 in av white x coming too...

[The Mad Bomber]

On 12/4/2020 at 9:35 AM, btyh said:

Nothing at all. Im being too picky about playing. Either too wet or too windy and of course the main reason is I'm still waiting on my tsi3 15 arrival. I sold my ts3 15 already and even though I would only use my 3 wood twice during a round of 18 I just feel incomplete without it haha

My question is why don't you have 6 deck-ups for every club in the bag? 🤣

[taoslcl]

Just got back from a fitting a True Spec. Figured I would get my free healthcare worker fitting in before the end of the year. Took my G400 max (copper Mamba) and Maverick (rouge white) that I just got of CPO 2 mo ago. Have only used the Mav for about 3 rounds and not super attached to it. They were low on heads and shafts since they are turning everything over soon so I just hit those 2 against the TSis. 

 

I'm swinging 95-100 in the 40 deg weather. Long story short TSi3 was 10 yds longer than Mav and 20 yds longer than 400 Max. Fitter was surprised ball speed was 4 mph better than Mav. I didn't get fit for the Mav or Max so that's likely part of it. Also much better dispersion than Mav for me. Hit the TSi only with Ventus Blue and they don't carry stock shaft options. I'm pretty sold but...

 

Any stock or cheaper options, even the Graphite Design shafts that are going to be similar in performance and feel to the Ventus blue? $900 driver is hard to swallow!

[DNice26]

Mine finally came in.... 

 

 

[Stetson]

22 minutes ago, taoslcl said:

Just got back from a fitting a True Spec. Figured I would get my free healthcare worker fitting in before the end of the year. Took my G400 max (copper Mamba) and Maverick (rouge white) that I just got of CPO 2 mo ago. Have only used the Mav for about 3 rounds and not super attached to it. They were low on heads and shafts since they are turning everything over soon so I just hit those 2 against the TSis. 

 

I'm swinging 95-100 in the 40 deg weather. Long story short TSi3 was 10 yds longer than Mav and 20 yds longer than 400 Max. Fitter was surprised ball speed was 4 mph better than Mav. I didn't get fit for the Mav or Max so that's likely part of it. Also much better dispersion than Mav for me. Hit the TSi only with Ventus Blue and they don't carry stock shaft options. I'm pretty sold but...

 

Any stock or cheaper options, even the Graphite Design shafts that are going to be similar in performance and feel to the Ventus blue? $900 driver is hard to swallow!

It would be hard to find a shaft to compare to the Ventus blue. Blue is really misleading because it isn’t a blue profile, but rather between a “whiteboard” and “blueboard”. The tip section is Ventus’s is stiffer than almost anything with similar handle and mid section profiles. For the price of a TSi with GD AD shaft you could order a TSi with Tensei Raw White and buy a used Ventus Blue. (Should be between $175-200). 

[Nixhex524]

41 minutes ago, taoslcl said:

Just got back from a fitting a True Spec. Figured I would get my free healthcare worker fitting in before the end of the year. Took my G400 max (copper Mamba) and Maverick (rouge white) that I just got of CPO 2 mo ago. Have only used the Mav for about 3 rounds and not super attached to it. They were low on heads and shafts since they are turning everything over soon so I just hit those 2 against the TSis. 

 

I'm swinging 95-100 in the 40 deg weather. Long story short TSi3 was 10 yds longer than Mav and 20 yds longer than 400 Max. Fitter was surprised ball speed was 4 mph better than Mav. I didn't get fit for the Mav or Max so that's likely part of it. Also much better dispersion than Mav for me. Hit the TSi only with Ventus Blue and they don't carry stock shaft options. I'm pretty sold but...

 

Any stock or cheaper options, even the Graphite Design shafts that are going to be similar in performance and feel to the Ventus blue? $900 driver is hard to swallow!

I tried all the shaft options from Titleist, except for the AD-IZ... My best results came from the HZRDUS RDX and Tensei White.  I did not like the Ventus Blue when I had it in a G410, but I do love the Raw White.  I would recommend giving it a try if you are set on the TSi3 but don't want to drop the extra $200 for the GD shafts.

[drbonesvt]

1 hour ago, DNice26 said:

Mine finally came in.... 

 

 

Velocore 🤑🤤

[drbonesvt]

39 minutes ago, Nixhex524 said:

I tried all the shaft options from Titleist, except for the AD-IZ... My best results came from the HZRDUS RDX and Tensei White.  I did not like the Ventus Blue when I had it in a G410, but I do love the Raw White.  I would recommend giving it a try if you are set on the TSi3 but don't want to drop the extra $200 for the GD shafts.

Shaft chart

 

[Stetson]

Shaft charts do not tell you bend profile, kick point, etc. 

 

how the head gets to the ball matters for some. 

[drbonesvt]

Dropped some titleist tips on an ad tp 7tx driver and ad di 9x to test , going to have to be something special to beat the ventus line , but hey it’s wrx have to try right ?

[halfsumo]

I would say av white is probably closest to the ventus blue. I think a lot of people shy away from the Tensei White thinking it is a low low rebar monster. I am not a high launch player, but launch the Tensei White profile the best in fairway and hybrid, which was the most eye opening experience I took from getting a professional fitting. 

[btyh]

2 hours ago, The Mad Bomber said:

My question is why don't you have 6 deck-ups for every club in the bag? 🤣

I did at one point. Just putters now haha

[Mitchell]

25 minutes ago, halfsumo said:

I would say av white is probably closest to the ventus blue. I think a lot of people shy away from the Tensei White thinking it is a low low rebar monster. I am not a high launch player, but launch the Tensei White profile the best in fairway and hybrid, which was the most eye opening experience I took from getting a professional fitting. 

Was definitely my experience as well, to the point that TSi2 fairway with AV Raw White 75 stiff created a bit too much launch to be optimal for my delivery.

[taoslcl]

Thanks everyone. I'll have a little time to decide. Sounds like it might be worth trying the AV white and if it doesn't work I can get an aftermarket Ventus.