Tour Tiger Woods - with TM Stealth driver - 2021 PNC Championship

[Red4282]

14 minutes ago, noodle3872 said:

Probably compared to his SIM. However as @Valtielpointed out, the CG is most likely still plenty rearward which may be why Tiger is getting more out of Stealth with his cut shot. 

Wasnt he in a sim2 last year? Maybe he was talking about that?

[Ghostwedge]

1 hour ago, CourseJester said:

Best thing about this is the Sim 2 price will plummet and actually be worth buying. 

It's worth whatever you pay for it, its a great driver.

[noodle3872]

1 minute ago, Red4282 said:

Wasnt he in a sim2 last year? Maybe he was talking about that?

 

1 minute ago, Red4282 said:

Wasnt he in a sim2 last year? Maybe he was talking about that?

At The Hero, he was pictured hitting OG SIM. Quick but not super thorough Getty check shows him with OG SIM and no SIM 2. 

[OsnolaKinnard]

Buy some ear plugs.  I have the 425 sft and hit them so well that even if they yelled “YOU DA MAN” at impact…and screamed like a banshee….I’d still hit them.

[Avidswampthing66]

That driver is 💰💰💰

 

[Avidswampthing66]

people are overly critical of driver designs.  don’t like it, don’t buy it.  I for one, can’t  wait to see how it performs.  If it can’t beat out my gamer, so be it.  “The S in stealth looks like a cheap sticker” etc etc and on and on

 

[NoCalHack]

I’m not sure I love what I hear about this model and I’m thinking I’m more interested in the max model. 
 

the forward COG should make the club more unforgiving. Unless they somehow increase the perimeter weighting around the face.

 

Maybe that’s the engineering feat of the club because of the carbon. They move the cog forward without decreasing MOI or forgiveness because the carbon let’s you move the weight off to the sides of the face. 

[Bdck]

19 minutes ago, NoCalHack said:

I’m not sure I love what I hear about this model and I’m thinking I’m more interested in the max model. 
 

the forward COG should make the club more unforgiving. Unless they somehow increase the perimeter weighting around the face.

 

Maybe that’s the engineering feat of the club because of the carbon. They move the cog forward without decreasing MOI or forgiveness because the carbon let’s you move the weight off to the sides of the face. 

I mean, there's two models for a reason

[GolfTurkey]

10 hours ago, DON SVO said:

 For every 320+ yard carry WRXer, there's 1,000 90mph SS rec golfers

 

I would say that for every 320+ yard carry WRXer there's  90 1,000mph WRXers

[GolfTurkey]

12 hours ago, Red4282 said:

Please tell me this is not already a chip in the face:

 

 

Mystery solved?

 

[The Ultimate Hack]

Wouldn't surprise me if the cobra driver is hotter. 

[Bdck]

2 hours ago, The Ultimate Hack said:

Wouldn't surprise me if the cobra driver is hotter. 

But the mishits bro

[agood3putt]

All this talk about Tiger but what the heck is Kutchar playing???

[Valtiel]

9 hours ago, NoCalHack said:

he said the COG is more forward. 

 

7 hours ago, Red4282 said:

Context is everything. Compared to what?

Exactly, he likely meant more forward when compared to the other models, not a truly "forward CG" which no one is really making right now. He has actually said in the past that he can't turn over a driver when the CG is too far forward back at the end of the Nike days. 

 

6 hours ago, NoCalHack said:

I’m not sure I love what I hear about this model and I’m thinking I’m more interested in the max model. 
 

the forward COG should make the club more unforgiving. Unless they somehow increase the perimeter weighting around the face.

 

Maybe that’s the engineering feat of the club because of the carbon. They move the cog forward without decreasing MOI or forgiveness because the carbon let’s you move the weight off to the sides of the face. 

A carbon face might have freed up 10-15g of discretionary weight, maybe a little more? Hard to know for sure, but not enough to do what you're suggesting, which is a more dramatic separating if vertical and horizontal MOI. MOI is 3-dimensional, and a traditional driver head can not have both a forward COG and a higher MOI from a performance standpoint, because one of the axis will suffer. A driver with extreme heel/toe weighting would be far less stable vertically and would almost be guaranteed to have a pretty high CG as the further towards the heel/toe you move weight, the higher up in the head it moves. This is antithetical to the physical design of the head with the low and drawn back sole we've seen since the M6.  
 

7 hours ago, JDIL said:

Heard a snippet of his interview on Sirius. Said he likes the forward COG as mentioned above. He said everyone knows he likes to curve it. With the previous drivers he only had one shot the draw. The cut on previous drivers were too short.

 

Now he says his cut goes further so he now has two shots. 
 

A common complaint was the Sims and Max’s were kind of close. This sounds like more separation 

Do you have a link to that interview?

EDIT: Found it, he referenced his setup at Augusta which I assume was when he won with the M5. The M5 was a way higher CG driver than the SIMs so it feels like he snuck in compliment in for Stealth when compared to the older M5 as opposed to the SIM. I could be wrong as he could simply be referencing more ball speed retention assuming he still tries to hit the ball slightly off the heel sometime when cutting it. 

Edited December 18, 2021 by Valtiel

[Red4282]

7 hours ago, JDIL said:

Heard a snippet of his interview on Sirius. Said he likes the forward COG as mentioned above. He said everyone knows he likes to curve it. With the previous drivers he only had one shot the draw. The cut on previous drivers were too short.

 

Now he says his cut goes further so he now has two shots. 
 

A common complaint was the Sims and Max’s were kind of close. This sounds like more separation 

The og sim and max were pretty separated but the sim2 and sim2 max were nearly identical

Edited December 18, 2021 by Red4282

[MMB1500]

I'm hearing rumours that Trackman is having issues getting accurate readings for this club as it's invisible to radar. 

 

 

 

...I'll get my coat. 

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2021 by MMB1500

[Bob Pegram]

22 hours ago, GolfWRX_Spotted said:

With the Stealth driver

 

 

Interesting that the driver setting is somewhat draw biased. I am assuming the photos are Tiger's driver and fairway. Maybe they are stock marketing photos.

[nilopol]

Of course Tiger isn't in competition mode and therefore a nice opportunity to promote a TM product.  Gets the buzz going to get the sales hype up!  Still can't wait to see if he can muster a comeback although a limited schedule.  

[getitdaily]

1 hour ago, MMB1500 said:

I'm hearing rumours that Trackman is having issues getting accurate readings for this club as it's invisible to radar. 

 

 

 

...I'll get my coat. 

 

 

 

Intelligent and original...

 

I'll allow it.

[Jpriebe46]

On 12/17/2021 at 8:34 AM, BirdieBob said:

KaBOOM Baby....that looks FANTASTIC!!

Crown is perfect....the whole driver is perfect!

 

Let me swing it a couple times, the crown won't be so perfect anymore

[kwainio]

171 ball speed for Tiger on the 5th hole today. Uhh that’s pretty damn good.

[SMUGamer]

5 minutes ago, kwainio said:

171 ball speed for Tiger on the 5th hole today. Uhh that’s pretty damn good.

That BLADE 4 iron, on the pin, did the talking today!!! 🤫😘

[TheMoneyShot]

4 minutes ago, SMUGamer said:

That BLADE 4 iron, on the pin, did the talking today!!! 🤫😘

Yeah, but he is done and just doesn’t have it anymore…🤦

[Leska]

45 minutes ago, kwainio said:

171 ball speed for Tiger on the 5th hole today. Uhh that’s pretty damn good.

But at what swingspeed ? If its at 110, then we know TM has found a way to go around the COR limit, but if its at the proper swingspeed, then i dont see the big deal about the new driver
 

[joekelli]

From what I am hearing through the TV the Stealth sounds great! 

[Pepperturbo]

The question remains, who is Stealth made for?  Actual golfers or wannabes that have a love connection?

[Pepperturbo]

1 hour ago, TheMoneyShot said:

Yeah, but he is done and just doesn’t have it anymore…🤦

Agree.

 

Everyone that I know of that watched TW yesterday, was happy he's improving and even a better man/father.  However, NOBODY, including me, thinks he has what he had leading up to the previous comeback.

[TheMoneyShot]

13 minutes ago, Pepperturbo said:

Agree.

 

Everyone that I know of that watched TW yesterday, was happy he's improving and even a better man/father.  However, NOBODY, including me, thinks he has what he had leading up to the previous comeback.

Yeah, it’s time to put a fork in old TW…

[btyh]

13 hours ago, agood3putt said:

All this talk about Tiger but what the heck is Kutchar playing???

Design looks like a 2007 taylormade burner. Or Bridgestone proto?

[btyh]

1 minute ago, TheMoneyShot said:

Yeah, it’s time to put a fork in old TW…

The way Charlie is playing, in a few years I'd be happy to see him win his first tour event  and see old man woods go out to congratulate him. following right in the foot steps of earl.