LIV Tour Discussion Thread (*** NO POLITICS ***)

[jonsnow]

2 minutes ago, jdl said:

As long as I'm on the movie theme....

 

"I object!"

 

"Overruled"

 

"No, I vigorously object!"

[Ghost of Snead]

Hope the trial drags into 2024, right about the time Tiger is named Ryder Cup 2025 captain for Bethpage. 

   

Edited August 3, 2022 by Ghost of Snead

[Titleist99]

Make no mistake: This action is just a prelude to the Major Tournament fight and the Saudi Golf League attempt to totally dismantle golf as we know it......

 

Masters, PGA, US OPEN and The OPEN are now on the clock......

[kmbean]

We’re the three best friends that anybody could have 

[subrew]

What would be a good name for the inevitable PGAT vs LIV shootout event?  And how many pro NFL quarterbacks on each team?

[Pastit]

2 minutes ago, Titleist99 said:

Make no mistake: This action is just a prelude to the Major Tournament fight and the Saudi Golf League attempt to totally dismantle golf as we know it......

 

Masters, PGA, US OPEN and The OPEN are now on the clock......

When I look at the LIV money-list someone kindly posted I can see why the mammals have jumped ship and after only 2 or 3 events. You’re right, an extraordinary challenge I can’t see the European side funding such legal issues. 

[SheriffBooth]

I wonder if LIV is going to file a lawsuit against Phil for his terrible golf, maybe try to get their money back?

[Titleist99]

As I stated long ago....the Pgatour should have sued L I V Exhibition tour to unopen their closed Series...

[mitchl]

13 minutes ago, subrew said:

 

This might be along the lines of what happened right before the Scottish Open.  Didn't a judge issue an injunction right before, allowing three LIV players to play?  

 

The difference will be in the timing.  The suspension from the Scottish Open was not long before the suit was filed.   The PGA suspensions came first, and yet, these players waited until 8 days before the playoff to file suit.   

 

It will be interesting to see if “emergency” relief is granted when the emergency is by the players delaying to file suit until now.   Plus, the PGA tour knew this or something like this was coming and have been prepping for the response since they issued the suspension.   So their ability to file a good response to this emergency request is probably much greater than DPWT had given the amount of time.

[capking]

11 minutes ago, kmbean said:

We’re the three best friends that anybody could have 

Quite the variation in footwear 

[the bishop]

27 minutes ago, jonsnow said:

I like that the PGA Tour plans to make their case "vigorously". I've always liked that word...except when my Dad promised my HS principal he would address my attitude issues "vigorously" & he did.

And clearly he failed.  (I keed, I keed)

[bscinstnct]

“Phil Mickelson, in an interview with the Fire Pit Collective’s Alan Shipnuck, said he has recruited three other players to the Saudi-based golf league and that he and other players paid attorneys to construct the proposed Super Golf League’s operating agreement.“

 

So, in Phils mind, this isn’t grounds to be shown the door?

 

🤣

 

 

[Krt22]

10 minutes ago, SheriffBooth said:

I wonder if LIV is going to file a lawsuit against Phil for his terrible golf, maybe try to get their money back?

Given he is a contracted employee, they might need to outline an improvement plan prior to taking such actions.

[kmbean]

Phil really missed his calling

[RH82]

If LIV wants to be taken somewhat seriously they need to go to 4 rounds and remove the team nonsense and the shotgun start.

[Krt22]

2 minutes ago, RH82 said:

If LIV wants to be taken somewhat seriously they need to go to 4 rounds and remove the team nonsense and the shotgun start.

Then it would no longer be LIV, a bit of a paradox to say this

[SheriffBooth]

7 minutes ago, Krt22 said:

Given he is a contracted employee, they might need to outline an improvement plan prior to taking such actions.

 

Yes, follow the LIV Employee Handbook and properly paper his employee file first.  Good thinking!

[rizzo66]

I fully respect the players that made the decision to jump to LIV and resigned their tour memberships. I have also lost total respect ( which I'm sure no one outside my wife, kids and dog care about ) for the players who have made their fortunes playing a game we love and now whining because they want it all.  Phil is turning or maybe always was a sniveling little b**** who wants his own way and pouts if he doesn't get it.

[aenemated]

9 minutes ago, Krt22 said:

Given he is a contracted employee, they might need to outline an improvement plan prior to taking such actions.

 

[RH82]

3 minutes ago, Krt22 said:

Then it would no longer be LIV, a bit of a paradox to say this

Then so be it. But something needs to change to go from an bush league tour to a pro tour.

Edited August 3, 2022 by RH82

[jonsnow]

23 minutes ago, subrew said:

What would be a good name for the inevitable PGAT vs LIV shootout event?  And how many pro NFL quarterbacks on each team?

No, no. We can't get ahead of ourselves. First we have the frivolous lawsuit. Then we have the vigorous defense. Next comes the aggressive negotiations...

 

 

[Krt22]

2 minutes ago, SheriffBooth said:

 

Yes, follow the LIV Employee Handbook and properly paper his employee file first.  Good thinking!

It's the world we live in, workers rights and all that hoopla. Gotta cross the Ts and dot the Is

[clevited]

I get a bit of arena football league vibe from LIV with the team thing, but I think overall, competition is good for the Tour.  Hopefully long term the competing pro golf circuits will evolve the game for the better and invigorate it.  I want to see the stuffiness of the game go away and it become a little more "cool" and approachable for more people.

[Krt22]

2 minutes ago, RH82 said:

Then so be it. But something needs to change to go from an exhibition tour to a pro tour.

That is the thing, it's not a pro tour. It is paid employees partaking in an exhibition with guaranteed money. Think of a "win" more as a performance bonus

[the bishop]

12 minutes ago, kmbean said:

Phil really missed his calling

I'll eat MBS's jackboot to make you a better deal

[Hawkeye77]

6 hours ago, Soloman1 said:

 

Did you miss the LIV statement in June donating $100 million to local charities, education, golf development and community wellbeing programs?

No.

 

They've "pledged" in a 90%+ very non-specific way so far to money for vague "worldwide" causes and corporate responsibility and other various targets and gave $1(m) in Portland as part of the PR.  Maybe spent another million or so, so the proof will be in the real spending of the $100 million.

 

It wasn't part of their model, it's just another $$$$$$$ PR move, but I'm happy for any person that benefits as a result.

 

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by Hawkeye77

[jonsnow]

8 minutes ago, clevited said:

I get a bit of arena football league vibe from LIV with the team thing, but I think overall, competition is good for the Tour.  Hopefully long term the competing pro golf circuits will evolve the game for the better and invigorate it.  I want to see the stuffiness of the game go away and it become a little more "cool" and approachable for more people.

Golf is already cooler than the other side of the pillow. It's so cool the coolest kids spend all their time on this cool website making cool comments to each other all day (& night) long...

 

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by jonsnow

[RH82]

3 minutes ago, Krt22 said:

That is the thing, it's not a pro tour. It is paid employees partaking in an exhibition with guaranteed money. Think of a "win" more as a performance bonus

Money aside, with that mentality they will never be taken seriously.

Edited August 3, 2022 by RH82

[Dutch1008]

2 minutes ago, Krt22 said:

Given he is a contracted employee, they might need to outline an improvement plan prior to taking such actions.

To: Phil Mickelson

From: The Desk of Greg Norman

RE: Performance Improvement Plan

 

Areas of Concern:

Failure to even approach Par in any event to date

 

Improvement Goals and Activities:

Keeping drives on planet earth

 

Expected Results:

To whom much is given, much is expected. Contend or Else.

 

Timeline for Improvement

Next freaking tournament. Your the face of the league. Get off the Fanduel app and make a damn putt

 

Consequences

1st failure: Teach a short game class to MBS and extended family for at least 3 scheduled birthday parties. There will be an area set up for you next to the Ariana Grande concert

2nd failure: 50% of your signing bonus must be returned

3rd failure: For legal reasons we can't write down the consequences for a 3rd offense

[CDM]

5 hours ago, idrive said:

 

Before covid, for the last 20 years we (wife and I) would pick out 5-6 PGAT events to go to each year.

 

Seems there was always a presence of the charity(s) represented there they were supporting for that particular Tourny.

 

 

Like they say, seeing is believing.

 

They still have a long way to go to catch up to the over $6 billion the PGAT has donated.

 

 

.....so based on current numbers that would 6 days for them LOL   *Yes I agree sad on that fact too