How great will Cameron Champ be?

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  • gvogelgvogel Members Posts: 7,324 ✭✭
    When they start playing courses at 8,500 yards, he's a lock for a couple of tournaments a year.



    But until then, who knows? I would go conservative.
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  • bscinstnctbscinstnct Members Posts: 26,386 ✭✭
    edited Jan 10, 2019 12:24pm #93
    Cameron was an infant

    When he saw Tiger's first win

    96 Las Vegas Invitational I think it was

    And from then he wanted to do the same

    Got himself a driver

    Used to swing it every night

    Now he's on the tour himself

    And everything's alright

    Don't you know?



    Cameron told his Mama,

    "Hey, Mama, I'm goin' away,

    Gonna hit the big time,

    Gonna be a big star someday"

    Mama came to the door

    With a teardrop in her eye

    Cameron said, "Don't cry Mama,

    Smile and wave goodbye"

    Don't you know?



    Yeah...



    Don't you know Cameron is a shooting star?

    Don't you know?
  • Darth PutterDarth Putter Members Posts: 4,757 ✭✭
    tstephen wrote:


    Who will be “Low Cameron” this week in Hawaii?



    Champ?



    Davis?



    Smith?






    It could be "El Camaron" Jose de Jesus Rodriguez.
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  • tstephentstephen Members Posts: 1,832 ✭✭
    edited Jan 12, 2019 9:39am #95

    tstephen wrote:


    Who will be “Low Cameron” this week in Hawaii?



    Champ?



    Davis?



    Smith?






    It could be "El Camaron" Jose de Jesus Rodriguez.




    Davis mc 317 yards driving stat



    Smith -6 316 yards



    El Camaron -4 300 yards



    Champ -3 293 yards although ball speed mid 190's
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  • iBanestoiBanesto Niclas Fasth Members Posts: 4,450 ✭✭
    Probably another Charles Howell III.



    Everyone loves jumping on a bandwagon.
  • grm24grm24 Western PAMembers Posts: 3,098 ✭✭
    tstephen wrote:


    Champ -3 293 yards although ball speed mid 290's
    290's ball speed? kph or typo?
  • tstephentstephen Members Posts: 1,832 ✭✭
    grm24 wrote:

    tstephen wrote:


    Champ -3 293 yards although ball speed mid 290's
    290's ball speed? kph or typo?




    Typo - thanks.



    Gary Woodland rookie year clocked a 200 and Champ's highest just under 199.
  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    He is a Manufactured PR dream... puke
  • LambLamb LondonMembers Posts: 325 ✭✭
    Today is the first time I ever heard of him. Am I missing something what is special about him?
  • GMRGMR Members Posts: 1,053 ✭✭
    Lamb wrote:


    Today is the first time I ever heard of him. Am I missing something what is special about him?


    Simply that his CHS with driver is right around 130mph without him looking like he's swinging out of his shoes. Champ's SLOWEST recorded ball speed of the season so far of 190.52 is exactly equal to the HIGHEST recorded ballspeed by anyone else (Brandon Hagy). The first "big-name" long hitter who shows up on the list, Rory McIlroy, averages just shy of 181 ballspeed while Cameron Champ's average is 193.5--in a straight-up driving contest he'd be blowing it by Rory. He's the first player that's come along in a while that has the potential to truly overpower the rest of the field in a way that we probably haven't seen since Tiger first showed up. That said he's still very RAW and obviously it remains to be seen if he can capitalise on that potential in any meaningful way...
  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    Lamb wrote:
    Today is the first time I ever heard of him. Am I missing something what is special about him?




    Nope, he’s new this year. Got his card on Web.com. I’d guess the Manufacturers will keep him afloat on PGA until he wins one.
  • linkerpanlinkerpan ClubWRX Posts: 1,426 ✭✭
    edited Jan 28, 2019 12:19pm #103
    BB28403 wrote:
    Lamb wrote:
    Today is the first time I ever heard of him. Am I missing something what is special about him?




    Nope, he’s new this year. Got his card on Web.com. I’d guess the Manufacturers will keep him afloat on PGA until he wins one.




    Check your sources. He already won this season on the PGA and we will be seeing him for 2 years basically.
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  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    linkerpan wrote:
    BB28403 wrote:
    Lamb wrote:
    Today is the first time I ever heard of him. Am I missing something what is special about him?




    Nope, he’s new this year. Got his card on Web.com. I’d guess the Manufacturers will keep him afloat on PGA until he wins one.




    Check your sources. He already won this season on the PGA and we will be seeing him for 2 years basically.




    Well look at that, so he did.
  • SimpSimp Members Posts: 2,908 ✭✭
    He'll have a major before Fowler will.
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  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    edited Feb 1, 2019 2:32am #106
    Simp wrote:
    He'll have a major before Fowler will.




    Whom is leading the Waste Crapper tourney? Ricky (and Justin)



    Not Cameron



    Mic drop
  • LambLamb LondonMembers Posts: 325 ✭✭
    GMR wrote:

    Lamb wrote:


    Today is the first time I ever heard of him. Am I missing something what is special about him?


    Simply that his CHS with driver is right around 130mph without him looking like he's swinging out of his shoes. Champ's SLOWEST recorded ball speed of the season so far of 190.52 is exactly equal to the HIGHEST recorded ballspeed by anyone else (Brandon Hagy). The first "big-name" long hitter who shows up on the list, Rory McIlroy, averages just shy of 181 ballspeed while Cameron Champ's average is 193.5--in a straight-up driving contest he'd be blowing it by Rory. He's the first player that's come along in a while that has the potential to truly overpower the rest of the field in a way that we probably haven't seen since Tiger first showed up. That said he's still very RAW and obviously it remains to be seen if he can capitalise on that potential in any meaningful way...




    I thought you were going to say someone that won all the Amateurs etc. So basically he is another Hank Kuehne except Hank won the Amateurs. Already seen it. I'd pass.



    I will only take notice when we have another Am win 2 or 3. Like Tiger / Jack and a major in their early 20's.
  • OldTomMorrisOldTomMorris Edinburgh, ScotlandMembers Posts: 2,228 ✭✭
    Cameron Champ featured group WMPO



    I'd seen a bit of him before and I got piled on for saying people were getting too carried away based on his performance at Sandersons where the course had no "meaningful" rough and appeared to be easy by PGA Tour standards. I watched him closely in the featured group coverage yesterday and he didn't play much different except the rough at TPC Scottsdale was penal. Yesterday he was almost always able to advance the ball onto or around the green but not close to the flag. Sandersons he could basically still shoot at the flag from the rough. I said reserve judgement until we see him on tougher courses. My argument was does he have the control, strategy etc.?



    Clearly he has a lot of talent and seems to have a good attitude/temperament but in my opinion the conclusions being drawn based on his length plus the early win were way over the top.



    Good luck to him though, I hope he does well.
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    After watching him play all 18 I’m officially off the bandwagon for at least a year. I jumped on in Vegas after never hearing of the guy but after paying a little closer attention since than realize Champ is more of a project for now. Wishing him the best but he may be missing more cuts than making at least for the time being.
  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, FloridaMembers Posts: 1,721 ✭✭
    Simp wrote:
    He'll have a major before Fowler will.




    The only major Champ would have a shot at is the non-major major PGA Championship. Ricky still has a much better overall game, just not sure either ever wins a major, but if I had to choose Ricky is clearly the choice.
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  • SimpSimp Members Posts: 2,908 ✭✭
    BB28403 wrote:

    Simp wrote:
    He'll have a major before Fowler will.




    Whom is leading the Waste Crapper tourney? Ricky (and Justin)



    Not Cameron



    Mic drop




    Pick that mic up and hold it until Sunday please. Mic drop.
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    Simp wrote:
    He'll have a major before Fowler will.




    The only major Champ would have a shot at is the non-major major PGA Championship. Ricky still has a much better overall game, just not sure either ever wins a major, but if I had to choose Ricky is clearly the choice.




    He could eat Augusta up.
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  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, FloridaMembers Posts: 1,721 ✭✭
    Simp wrote:


    Simp wrote:
    He'll have a major before Fowler will.




    The only major Champ would have a shot at is the non-major major PGA Championship. Ricky still has a much better overall game, just not sure either ever wins a major, but if I had to choose Ricky is clearly the choice.




    He could eat Augusta up.




    If his game matched the aura around his distance yes, but his wedge game says otherwise.
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,223 ✭✭
    He may want to go dig his old driver out of the trash.



    He changed this week to a new head, added an inch, and decided to tip his shaft less. Giant disaster so far. Can’t even sniff a fairway.



    It always intrigues me when these guys make a change and it turns out so bad. Seems odd with all the fitting technology.
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  • wobgonwobgon Members Posts: 7,502 ✭✭
    GMR wrote:

    Lamb wrote:


    Today is the first time I ever heard of him. Am I missing something what is special about him?


    Simply that his CHS with driver is right around 130mph without him looking like he's swinging out of his shoes. Champ's SLOWEST recorded ball speed of the season so far of 190.52 is exactly equal to the HIGHEST recorded ballspeed by anyone else (Brandon Hagy). The first "big-name" long hitter who shows up on the list, Rory McIlroy, averages just shy of 181 ballspeed while Cameron Champ's average is 193.5--in a straight-up driving contest he'd be blowing it by Rory. He's the first player that's come along in a while that has the potential to truly overpower the rest of the field in a way that we probably haven't seen since Tiger first showed up. That said he's still very RAW and obviously it remains to be seen if he can capitalise on that potential in any meaningful way...


    A little help here please.....I was just looking at a couple score cards I have sitting around here and am having trouble finding where to put the ball speed.
  • LambLamb LondonMembers Posts: 325 ✭✭
    Simp wrote:


    Simp wrote:
    He'll have a major before Fowler will.




    The only major Champ would have a shot at is the non-major major PGA Championship. Ricky still has a much better overall game, just not sure either ever wins a major, but if I had to choose Ricky is clearly the choice.




    He could eat Augusta up.






    Bet the wont Champ proof it though!
  • gvogelgvogel Members Posts: 7,324 ✭✭
    Simp wrote:


    Simp wrote:
    He'll have a major before Fowler will.




    The only major Champ would have a shot at is the non-major major PGA Championship. Ricky still has a much better overall game, just not sure either ever wins a major, but if I had to choose Ricky is clearly the choice.




    He could eat Augusta up.




    Augusta is a putter's course, which is why Jordan Spieth will probably win this year.
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  • OldTomMorrisOldTomMorris Edinburgh, ScotlandMembers Posts: 2,228 ✭✭
    gvogel wrote:


    Augusta is a putter's course




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  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    edited Feb 2, 2019 5:54pm #119
    Simp wrote:
    BB28403 wrote:

    Simp wrote:
    He'll have a major before Fowler will.




    Whom is leading the Waste Crapper tourney? Ricky (and Justin)



    Not Cameron



    Mic drop




    Pick that mic up and hold it until Sunday please. Mic drop.




    Mic still dropped ! On the landfill heap of the WM tourney. Fowler at -13 and in the lead!



    And Cameron champs caddie needs a Babysitter of the year award.



    Edit: -18! Go Rickie! -20 (64) final 3rd round
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  • carrier streetcarrier street Members Posts: 1,174 ✭✭
    wobgon wrote:

    GMR wrote:

    Lamb wrote:


    Today is the first time I ever heard of him. Am I missing something what is special about him?


    Simply that his CHS with driver is right around 130mph without him looking like he's swinging out of his shoes. Champ's SLOWEST recorded ball speed of the season so far of 190.52 is exactly equal to the HIGHEST recorded ballspeed by anyone else (Brandon Hagy). The first "big-name" long hitter who shows up on the list, Rory McIlroy, averages just shy of 181 ballspeed while Cameron Champ's average is 193.5--in a straight-up driving contest he'd be blowing it by Rory. He's the first player that's come along in a while that has the potential to truly overpower the rest of the field in a way that we probably haven't seen since Tiger first showed up. That said he's still very RAW and obviously it remains to be seen if he can capitalise on that potential in any meaningful way...


    A little help here please.....I was just looking at a couple score cards I have sitting around here and am having trouble finding where to put the ball speed.




    You didn't know that golf is a trackman long drive contest? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!



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  • SimpSimp Members Posts: 2,908 ✭✭
    BB28403 wrote:

    Simp wrote:
    BB28403 wrote:

    Simp wrote:
    He'll have a major before Fowler will.




    Whom is leading the Waste Crapper tourney? Ricky (and Justin)



    Not Cameron



    Mic drop




    Pick that mic up and hold it until Sunday please. Mic drop.




    Mic still dropped ! On the landfill heap of the WM tourney. Fowler at -13 and in the lead!



    And Cameron champs caddie needs a Babysitter of the year award.



    Edit: -18! Go Rickie! -20 (64) final 3rd round




    LOL. Touché, but it's not Sunday yet.
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