What up with Jordan?

[KRAMER1997]

It's the driver, He needs to hit more fairways. In 2015 and 2017 his driving accuracy was north of 60%. This past year it's at 53.99%. If he hits more fairways he contends.

[bladehunter]

> @williamsnrb said:

> One of these days, I'd like to see him get back closer to the ball and swing more upright again. Moving away from the ball and flattening his swing seems to have had a detrimental effect on his accuracy, especially with the long clubs. If he does that, he'll be back on track quickly. If not, hopefully he'll get it dialed in eventually.

 

It’s that simple. I don’t care what anyone says. He will never hit it as good from the position I last saw him in. I am simply shocked that McCormick has allowed that swing to be ruined. The chicken wing pundits will chime in and tell you how ugly it was. They are just showing their ignorance. Anyone who controls the face as long and as well as he did can finish the swing however he wants and win. Sure it is not the most powerful. But newsflash. He doesn’t have the extra gear. You’re born with Dj or Rory speed or you aren’t. You cannot teach that. Not from 110 all out to smooth 125. Not going to happen. Not when his fitness was already top notch.

 

Now he’s a flat , two way miss , mess.

[Golfjack]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @williamsnrb said:

> > One of these days, I'd like to see him get back closer to the ball and swing more upright again. Moving away from the ball and flattening his swing seems to have had a detrimental effect on his accuracy, especially with the long clubs. If he does that, he'll be back on track quickly. If not, hopefully he'll get it dialed in eventually.

>

> It’s that simple. I don’t care what anyone says. He will never hit it as good from the position I last saw him in. I am simply shocked that McCormick has allowed that swing to be ruined. The chicken wing pundits will chime in and tell you how ugly it was. They are just showing their ignorance. Anyone who controls the face as long and as well as he did can finish the swing however he wants and win. Sure it is not the most powerful. But newsflash. He doesn’t have the extra gear. You’re born with Dj or Rory speed or you aren’t. You cannot teach that. Not from 110 all out to smooth 125. Not going to happen. Not when his fitness was already top notch.

>

> Now he’s a flat , two way miss , mess.

 

Yeah I liked his old swing. It was different, and he won with it. I feared for his ankles more than anything, but again it works for him. Now he just is lost. It's really too bad. He didn't need to go from 110 to 125. He just needed 115. I don't think he needed to change his swing, just hit the gym.

[Golfjack]

Actually his CHS is still at around 113 (pretty much same as 2015). I'm not sure what his changes have done for him.

[grm24]

For the many people here that have never looked elsewhere for anything golf related here is an interesting read on YJS. ;)

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/27162587/navigating-cluttered-mind-jordan-spieth

[williamsnrb]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @williamsnrb said:

> > One of these days, I'd like to see him get back closer to the ball and swing more upright again. Moving away from the ball and flattening his swing seems to have had a detrimental effect on his accuracy, especially with the long clubs. If he does that, he'll be back on track quickly. If not, hopefully he'll get it dialed in eventually.

>

> It’s that simple. I don’t care what anyone says. He will never hit it as good from the position I last saw him in. I am simply shocked that McCormick has allowed that swing to be ruined. The chicken wing pundits will chime in and tell you how ugly it was. They are just showing their ignorance. Anyone who controls the face as long and as well as he did can finish the swing however he wants and win. Sure it is not the most powerful. But newsflash. He doesn’t have the extra gear. You’re born with Dj or Rory speed or you aren’t. You cannot teach that. Not from 110 all out to smooth 125. Not going to happen. Not when his fitness was already top notch.

>

> Now he’s a flat , two way miss , mess.

Exactly right. In a weird way, the Open may be a chance for him to get dialed in by hitting a lot of hold-off punch shots. That movement thru the ball would be closer to his old move.

 

[tsecor]

Maybe his switch to the T100 irons is going to help? he designed them for Titleist, so lets see how they do for him......

[tsecor]

-3....killing it!!! heeeeeeeee's Baaaaaccckkk!!!! lol

[jaredt22]

I certainly hope you're right, that he's back. Although, it is REAAALLY early to claim that, at this point. :D

[rafal]

Right now what this thread needs more than anything are Rory fans chiming in. Waiting impatiently.

[North Texas]

Tied for 2nd with the lowest score on the course and they're showing everyone but him.

[North Texas]

> @"North Texas" said:

> Tied for 2nd with the lowest score on the course and they're showing everyone but him.

 

Damn, I jinxed him.

[tsecor]

he went away again........could be worse.....could be Rory

[Babydaddy]

> @williamsnrb said:

> One of these days, I'd like to see him get back closer to the ball and swing more upright again. Moving away from the ball and flattening his swing seems to have had a detrimental effect on his accuracy, especially with the long clubs. If he does that, he'll be back on track quickly. If not, hopefully he'll get it dialed in eventually.

 

Totally agree- reaching out for the ball for a tall player almost never works out and begs for a two way miss

[bladehunter]

> @tsecor said:

> he went away again........could be worse.....could be Rory

 

Lol.

[tsecor]

SPIETH IS BAAAccccccKKKK!!!!!!

[straightshot7]

> @tsecor said:

> SPIETH IS BAAAccccccKKKK!!!!!!

 

If he can do it on a Saturday or Sunday then he might be (on the way) back.

[OldTomMorris]

> @straightshot7 said:

> > @tsecor said:

> > SPIETH IS BAAAccccccKKKK!!!!!!

>

> If he can do it on a Saturday or Sunday then he might be (on the way) back.

 

2019 3rd round scoring average 166th

2019 4th round scoring average 196th

 

The stats are against him.

[North Texas]

> @OldTomMorris said:

> > @straightshot7 said:

> > > @tsecor said:

> > > SPIETH IS BAAAccccccKKKK!!!!!!

> >

> > If he can do it on a Saturday or Sunday then he might be (on the way) back.

>

> 2019 3rd round scoring average 166th

> 2019 4th round scoring average 196th

>

> The stats are against him.

 

Or he is due.

[lowheel]

> @OldTomMorris said:

> > @straightshot7 said:

> > > @tsecor said:

> > > SPIETH IS BAAAccccccKKKK!!!!!!

> >

> > If he can do it on a Saturday or Sunday then he might be (on the way) back.

>

> 2019 3rd round scoring average 166th

> 2019 4th round scoring average 196th

>

> The stats are against him.

 

Meh its a major, those #s are meaningless. The front 9 is way easier on this track so tough to get into alot of trouble.Wouldnt be surprised by another 67 tomorrow. he has that look

[Shilgy]

> @lowheel said:

> > @OldTomMorris said:

> > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > @tsecor said:

> > > > SPIETH IS BAAAccccccKKKK!!!!!!

> > >

> > > If he can do it on a Saturday or Sunday then he might be (on the way) back.

> >

> > 2019 3rd round scoring average 166th

> > 2019 4th round scoring average 196th

> >

> > The stats are against him.

>

> Meh its a major, those #s are meaningless. The front 9 is way easier on this track so tough to get into alot of trouble.Wouldnt be surprised by another 67 tomorrow. he has that look

 

Perhaps. What is not meaningless on this track is his tendency to hit a few loose drives on the weekend. Royal Portrush will absolutely punish those wayward drives.

 

[MattyO1984]

> @Shilgy said:

> > @lowheel said:

> > > @OldTomMorris said:

> > > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > > @tsecor said:

> > > > > SPIETH IS BAAAccccccKKKK!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > If he can do it on a Saturday or Sunday then he might be (on the way) back.

> > >

> > > 2019 3rd round scoring average 166th

> > > 2019 4th round scoring average 196th

> > >

> > > The stats are against him.

> >

> > Meh its a major, those #s are meaningless. The front 9 is way easier on this track so tough to get into alot of trouble.Wouldnt be surprised by another 67 tomorrow. he has that look

>

> Perhaps. What is not meaningless on this track is his tendency to hit a few loose drives on the weekend. Royal Portrush will absolutely punish those wayward drives.

>

 

You could have said the same thing today...

[lowheel]

> @Shilgy said:

> > @lowheel said:

> > > @OldTomMorris said:

> > > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > > @tsecor said:

> > > > > SPIETH IS BAAAccccccKKKK!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > If he can do it on a Saturday or Sunday then he might be (on the way) back.

> > >

> > > 2019 3rd round scoring average 166th

> > > 2019 4th round scoring average 196th

> > >

> > > The stats are against him.

> >

> > Meh its a major, those #s are meaningless. The front 9 is way easier on this track so tough to get into alot of trouble.Wouldnt be surprised by another 67 tomorrow. he has that look

>

> Perhaps. What is not meaningless on this track is his tendency to hit a few loose drives on the weekend. Royal Portrush will absolutely punish those wayward drives.

>

 

He sprayed it around pretty good on the backside and still shot par on the back.its gettable from those misses. tomorrow will tell us alot however lets not forget he was in the last group last year at this same tourney and conditions were way, way tougher on a way way tougher track.

[OldTomMorris]

> @"North Texas" said:

> > @OldTomMorris said:

> > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > @tsecor said:

> > > > SPIETH IS BAAAccccccKKKK!!!!!!

> > >

> > > If he can do it on a Saturday or Sunday then he might be (on the way) back.

> >

> > 2019 3rd round scoring average 166th

> > 2019 4th round scoring average 196th

> >

> > The stats are against him.

>

> Or he is due.

 

I hope so but there has been a couple of false dawns with Jordan.

[Pent08]

On a Sunday when the course average was 73, Spieth shot 77. Still a mental battle.

[bladehunter]

This game is and always will be a mental battle. Why not just say water is wet.

 

It’s that damn hip bend / flat swing change. Never had a huge hook and a wipe right miss before.

[lowheel]

> @Pent08 said:

> On a Sunday when the course average was 73, Spieth shot 77. Still a mental battle.

 

a little misleading, the last 20 groups was higher than that. Rose and others who showed better form than spieth got swallowed up as well. Lots of 77-78-79s from others. it happens, he was never winning this, too far back

[Pent08]

> @lowheel said:

> > @Pent08 said:

> > On a Sunday when the course average was 73, Spieth shot 77. Still a mental battle.

>

> a little misleading, the last 20 groups was higher than that. Rose and others who showed better form than spieth got swallowed up as well. Lots of 77-78-79s from others. it happens, he was never winning this, too far back

 

Gotcha. If the change in scores is significant, my omission wasn't purposeful. I didn't watch the coverage.

[Shilgy]

> @lowheel said:

> > @Pent08 said:

> > On a Sunday when the course average was 73, Spieth shot 77. Still a mental battle.

>

> a little misleading, the last 20 groups was higher than that. Rose and others who showed better form than spieth got swallowed up as well. Lots of 77-78-79s from others. it happens, he was never winning this, too far back

 

The fact that he was not going to win does not defend a t20 for a “top” player. Rose , Holmes, Kuchar were similar, yes. A “great” is not placated by others suffering similar fates.

[Pent08]

> @bladehunter said:

> This game is and always will be a mental battle. Why not just say water is wet.

>

> It’s that **** hip bend / flat swing change. Never had a huge hook and a wipe right miss before.

 

I would say water is wet, but I'm betting you'd disagree.