Ping i59

[bevans0222]

7 hours ago, Oh Hi Carl said:

Curious if others see big differences in the photos that Minarets posted above.  I really don't except that the Srixon does look a bit chunkier in the top line.  

 

I'd love to see a side-by-side between the i59 and the Blueprint. 

I hit the demo 7 iron today, alongside my Z785.  The i59 is noticeably smaller.  Look a little closer at the picture.. the toes are equal, but the hosel of the 785 is well below the i59.  If I hadn't compared them in person, I'd have looked at that picture and thought they were the same size.

[JakeW13]

7 minutes ago, bevans0222 said:

I compared the i59 demo to a Blueprint 7i this afternoon.  They are really similar in size, and are going to blend well.  

 

I can only get so erect.

[animalgolfs]

12 minutes ago, JakeW13 said:

 

I can only get so erect.

 

[Oh Hi Carl]

1 hour ago, bobbyclampett!! said:

Anyone compare the i59 to the P7MC, which seems like the comparable iron in the TM lineup? 

Is the i59 more comparable to the P7MC than the p770? 

[ChunkyDrunky]

This was pretty much a comparison vs the P7MC

 

[jt2gt]

12 hours ago, bevans0222 said:

I hit the demo 7 iron today, alongside my Z785.  The i59 is noticeably smaller.  Look a little closer at the picture.. the toes are equal, but the hosel of the 785 is well below the i59.  If I hadn't compared them in person, I'd have looked at that picture and thought they were the same size.

Any further thoughts...haven't seen much direct comparison to Srixon.  Do you go all the way back to Z745 with Srixon?

[Oh Hi Carl]

Not exactly a ringing endorsement from Shiels . . . 

[m_w]

6 minutes ago, Oh Hi Carl said:

Not exactly a ringing endorsement from Shiels . . . 

 

None of the reviews have been particularly raving so far

[Tdsjfb]

1 minute ago, m_w said:

 

None of the reviews have been particularly raving so far

What's Shiel's 'cap? 12?

[jt2gt]

13 minutes ago, m_w said:

 

None of the reviews have been particularly raving so far

I'm guessing because i59 is too much Blueprint and not enough i210.  i210 was my very close second fav. when testing.  But I don't see myself making a serious charge at the i59.  

[Foreleft]

What they lack in playability, they make up for in pricing chutzpah.

[m_w]

42 minutes ago, Tdsjfb said:

What's Shiel's 'cap? 12?

 

Pretty sure its not 12 but thats not my point - none of the reviews i've seen are raving about the i59. They all compliment the looks, they are all excited to hit it but no one is particularly impressed by the performance or forgiveness from what I've seen.

[Hattie Pants]

1 hour ago, m_w said:

 

Pretty sure its not 12 but thats not my point - none of the reviews i've seen are raving about the i59. They all compliment the looks, they are all excited to hit it but no one is particularly impressed by the performance or forgiveness from what I've seen.

Hit it in a fitting a couple of weeks ago. Hard no. Feels awful, is not forgiving and middled shots at best came up with the low end of t100 and zx7

[Shakespeare]

I hit the demo with two different steel shafts.....it seemed to feel better with the 105 gram then the 120 gram...not sure if the fitting head has some added weight or something..but it just doesn't feel "soft" to me. I am going to try the graphite option to see if helps. I was expecting more with all the hype, and looks wise it is terrific. Just not the forged feeling that I would like. Maybe graphite will change that 

[Whatnogarnish]

I hate to say this and I’m a huge Ping fan. But I don’t think all the anticipation was worth it this year for Ping. I feel like Ping is trying to set themselves up for a continuous improvement product cycle by focusing on moi on these releases. 

I played iblades for a long time, and they were great. Love em. Off subject but, I had the g425 max to start the year, but it just didn’t do it for me out in the wild. It was straight as heck though. Not gonna take that chance on these irons especially fairway wood pricing per head. 
 

If I went back to Ping today, it would be for iblades and the g400 lst.
 

 

[bobbyclampett!!]

Hold up. Wait a minute. Stop the presses. It's time to get this hype train back on the rails.

 

I got to hit the 7 iron today. Compared it to my current i200, new T100, P7MC, Apex Pro, and Apex TCB. The i59 was HANDS DOWN the most beautiful of all contenders. It looks like a buttery blade, and with that hydropearl finish and the tighter grooves and the top line and just the overall shape. Probably the most beautiful iron I have ever seen in person. Looks like a straight up players iron. Feel like a pro with it.  All the others looked kinda.... just not as sharp. I thought I loved the P7MC and the Apex Pro before this.  Not anymore. To MY EYE, the i59 is in a class of its own. Like it's a 12 out of 10 and the others are a 7. That's how much I loved the look.

 

I did not hit on a Trackman. I will next Wednesday and report back. But here's where I think these are the revolution Ping expected them to be -- to my naked eye and ear, I noticed NO DIFFERENCE between these and my i200s or any of the other clubs I tried.  They all felt very similar to me and seemed to perform very similarly in terms of ball speed, height, distance, etc. I expected, with that tiny, beautiful, sexy head that I would feel and see severe punishment for mishits. No such thing. Thin shots, toe shots, every type of mishit flew high, far and straight. In other words, they seemed every bit as forgiving as my i200s. They felt (sounded) amazing. I felt (heard) no real difference between these and any of the irons. They all seem to perform great.

 

So, I think these are real game changers in that they made my i200s look like absolute garden shovels in comparison, but, I believe, it performed exactly the same as its larger, cavity back predecessor.  This is the first iron I have ever tried that looks like a pure, tiny, butter blade that performs like a larger, chunkier, cavity back iron. I really think this is super money. I went in expecting to be underwhelmed with zero interest in buying and keeping my i200s for years to come. Now I am afraid I'm in for 3-pw. If I can have a club that looks like that but performs like my i200, come on, man. That's just silly. Incredibly impressed and thinking this is a super game changer for anyone other than the SGI crowd. Don't sleep on these.

Edited September 3, 2021 by bobbyclampett!!

[ChrisLC40]

It honestly seems like people are so disgusted with the price that they're finding the most ridiculous criticisms they can just to say something negative. Did Ping design these irons to everyone's cup of tea? Nope. Do they care? Most likely not. Are they the best irons on the market? Nope. That's why there are other OEM's to choose from. They're not the longest, most amazing feeling or most forgiving. They're not supposed to be, especially when feel and forgiveness are subjective.

 

I don't see how I won't be ordering a set. They're pretty spectacular.

[bobbyclampett!!]

1 hour ago, ChrisLC40 said:

It honestly seems like people are so disgusted with the price that they're finding the most ridiculous criticisms they can just to say something negative. Did Ping design these irons to everyone's cup of tea? Nope. Do they care? Most likely not. Are they the best irons on the market? Nope. That's why there are other OEM's to choose from. They're not the longest, most amazing feeling or most forgiving. They're not supposed to be, especially when feel and forgiveness are subjective.

 

I don't see how I won't be ordering a set. They're pretty spectacular.

Yeah, I don't think it's that they "outperform" every other iron ever made that makes them special. It's that they perform equally as well as all those others I mentioned while looking so much smaller, cleaner, tighter, etc., than all the others it performs like.  I have played muscle backs in the past because I loved so much how they looked behind the ball, but I eventually had to put my ego aside and get something with a larger, more forgiving face, because I just wasn't making consistent enough center contact with the blades to be able to play them, and mishits really suffered and were quite penalizing. It's almost as if the i59 allows me to blades again, while not really being good enough to hit the center every time, and I just got giddy writing that sentence. That's what I think the revolutionary technology is in these.

 

At the same time, you're right, other OEMs are basically doing the same thing. I mean the T100 and Apex TCB and P7MC (and I'm sure P770) were not far behind the i59 in looks (for me), and I could see how others could even prefer the looks of those others (although they did seem a bit thicker, more rounded than the i59). And it did seem to me, again, from my naked eye and ear, that they all performed essentially identically. So everyone is doing awesome things now, but I just happen to be over-the-moon about the looks of the i59. I am also a bit of a Ping fanboy, too, full disclosure...

[ChrisLC40]

My experience with players category isn't deep thanks to being left handed. The i59's however are the most consistent, best looking and they don't frighten me when set behind the ball. I play to a 10, and thanks to my swing characteristics I generally do better with narrower sole clubs. I experimented a little this summer with a set of G425 irons against my i210s and club for club the distances were basically the same. Put the i59 against my i210 and I picked up a couple yards on average and dispersion tightened up. I'm not chasing distance, only accuracy. 

 

I've become a Ping fanboy too. I used to think they were ridiculous because my uncle wouldn't shut up about them. Then I started playing them.

[Shakespeare]

Taking price out of the equation, the pros are looks ,traditional lofts, and tech. The cons are really just expectation of feel. To me my i210s "feel" softer. Not that they feel hard at all, but my expectation would have been a softer feel. Heck the gen 1 pxgs really felt softer then these to be honest

[bobbyclampett!!]

1 hour ago, ChrisLC40 said:

My experience with players category isn't deep thanks to being left handed. The i59's however are the most consistent, best looking and they don't frighten me when set behind the ball. I play to a 10, and thanks to my swing characteristics I generally do better with narrower sole clubs. I experimented a little this summer with a set of G425 irons against my i210s and club for club the distances were basically the same. Put the i59 against my i210 and I picked up a couple yards on average and dispersion tightened up. I'm not chasing distance, only accuracy. 

 

I've become a Ping fanboy too. I used to think they were ridiculous because my uncle wouldn't shut up about them. Then I started playing them.

Ahh, so you actually gained distance with i59 over the i210? I am interested to see what Trackman tells me when I compare to my i200s next week.

Edited September 3, 2021 by bobbyclampett!!

[blt2280]

Agreed. The Price is outrageous and whatever replaces the i210 will most like be better fit for most people and a good price point.

[Whited107x]

I59 that good all the tour pros going back to i210. Pretty much says it all. 

[JourdanM]

😂 This thread 

[Clemsongolfer8]

40 minutes ago, JourdanM said:

😂 This thread 

No kidding. We get it most of the people in the thread aren’t gonna be putting them in the bag. 

[johngalt312]

[TheGolfingRealtor]

I found a lefty head and got to hit it. I LOVE the feel of it. It feels very solid even on mishits. Everything wants to go straight. The distance just wasn't there for me, the T100 was a club longer. The salesperson was hanging over my shoulder plus the size of the head made me a little hesitant to rip through it. I was probably guiding it more than I was swinging it. Thinking about the 5 & 6 irons made me think I wouldn't be able to handle them. Take everything about this and put it into a bigger head.

[toddba11]

I am used to hitting blade like irons such as the Wilson FG62, also own the Ping i210s. I have enjoyed them but never thought they were the king of all irons with the offset and feel………Having said that, the last Ping iron I played before the i210, were the Ping G10 and the Ping s56.  I game Titleist drivers and hybrids and recently ordered a Ping G 425 hybrid and the quality was unmatched………dipping back into Ping and ordered the i59 6-PW, DG Tour S400……… very confident in their products…..

Edited September 4, 2021 by toddba11

[livigolfs]

20 hours ago, TheGolfingRealtor said:

I found a lefty head and got to hit it. I LOVE the feel of it. It feels very solid even on mishits. Everything wants to go straight. 

This was my experience 

[halfsumo]

Got to hit the demo 7 iron. These look great, no complaints about anything in the looks. They are premium for sure, IMO. The grooves make these look more compact. I hit it side by side with the T100 which is known to be pretty small and these looked more compact, I think because of he shorter grooves.

 

Feel and sound on the i59 is "different". It is a bit louder and to me definitely felt like you would think it would = an iron filled with a a lighter metal. It is unique and I think very pleasing. I think it feels and sounds great, but I can see how someone that was nitpicking these due to the price could decide they don't prefer it. I don't think it sounds/feels like anything else out there so that's a good differentiator in my opinion. 

 

Performance: I have hit pretty much every 33-34* 7 iron that I have ever tried in the last 15 years with whatever shaft ~170 yards and these were no different. Was hitting indoors so not much feedback.