Ping i59

[Golfguy1012]

This is a great video about feel  

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by Golfguy1012

[Oh Hi Carl]

18 hours ago, ccp39 said:

Thinking of making myself a combo set of 9i-6i blueprints and i59 5i-4i. Makes it cheaper plus the loft/lie specs look pretty much identical between blueprint and i59 so theoretically they should blend well. 

 

Would love to know if anyone's been able to get their hands on anything other than a 7i demo, and how well they think short iron blueprints would blend into long iron i59s. Both in terms of looks (specifically blade length) and distance; I'm playing MP18 MMCs right now through the bag and when I got fitted for them they were consistently 5-10 yards longer than the blade MP18. Would like to avoid a 20 yard gap between blueprint 6i and i59 5i...

 

A vokey 46* and a Srixon ZX Utility 3i round out the set, for anyone weird enough to be curious as to what's in an internet stranger's bag...

I combo my 7-PW blueprints with TM p770s in 4-6.  Works well.  BPs are power specs.  

[livigolfs]

Had written this off cause of the price but was surprised by how well I hit this iron. Gonna do some more testing soon

[Oh Hi Carl]

Excellent video above about feel @Golfguy1012  Makes me feel better about rarely sensing a difference between strikes with my blades and chunkier clubs.  Video does a great job of emphasizing how much sound affects what we think we feel.  As for i59, I suspect a bunch of people will say it doesn't feel as soft as a Mizuno or Miura forged club largely because of preconceived notions about Mizuno, Miura [insert another manufacturer] and Ping.  But they won't be wrong because who's to say what someone else feels or thinks they feel?  I'm not going to insist that club A must feel softer to everyone else just because it feels softer to me.  I look forward to trying the i59 and getting my own sense of it.    

[Golfguy1012]

I couldn’t agree with you more @Oh Hi Carl . Very well said! I love how golf is such an individualistic experience. 

[nickosbad]

I hit the i59 tonight during a fitting.

 

It looks nice, not amazing as there’s something weird about the heel/hosel transition.

 

I hit it with the stock LS shaft and feel was certainly on the clickier side but I’d describe it as firm and powerful in the feel dept

 

Forgiveness is off the scale….it just wanted to go high and straight…only problem was it was too high for me…almost moonballs

 

Distance wise I actually hit the new T100 slightly further and with a better flight for what I was looking for

 

For me and many people the biggest sticking point will be the price….it’s just a few hundred pounds too expensive especially when i210 can be had for a steal right now

 

If Ping had launched at a price closer to T100/Apex/P770 then they would sell so so many of these!!!

[London424]

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the pricing is due to the awful delivery times for most Ping stuff at the moment. Make the price too appealing and they’d have no hope of supplying in a timely manner. jack the price up while supply is constrained, drop it early next year assuming they sort their issues out. 

[m_w]

8 minutes ago, London424 said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the pricing is due to the awful delivery times for most Ping stuff at the moment. Make the price too appealing and they’d have no hope of supplying in a timely manner. jack the price up while supply is constrained, drop it early next year assuming they sort their issues out. 

 

I think price increases are mainly driven by the enormous rise of material costs. Expect a lot of new launches to clock in higher than previously. In addition, inflation is incredibly high right now (compared to the past 10 years), adding to that pressure.

[Indygolfer18]

Was able to hit these yesterday...I was blown away as they were awesome. The hosel/heel transition wasn't as noticeable to me as the toe shape was. Very forgiving for the small profile of the club and that's the biggest takeaway for me, I'm surprised that some of the tour guys have iBlade in the 4, 5, or 6 but maybe they generate enough spin to hold those clubs on a green. I love the look of blades but still need a little help.

 

It sounded a like a dull click compared to some of the clubs I've recently tested, but it felt great. If I was blindfolded I couldn't tell if it was the i210 or i59 on a center face strike.

 

I would consider these, but the price is the deal killer since I'm replacing the entire bag right now. There are cheaper (as if $1100+ is cheap) irons that will elevate my game the same these would. You won't be disappointed in them if you buy them though! The cool kids these days are playing PING for a reason.

Edited August 26, 2021 by Indygolfer18

[London424]

41 minutes ago, m_w said:

 

I think price increases are mainly driven by the enormous rise of material costs. Expect a lot of new launches to clock in higher than previously. In addition, inflation is incredibly high right now (compared to the past 10 years), adding to that pressure.

There will be some of that but Titleist have just released all their clubs without insane price jumps

[OrangeGravy]

23 hours ago, eht8266 said:

The costs compared to Srixon, Mizz, and even Miuras is still somewhat shocking.

It is maybe right now, but It'll probably seem normal in the not too distant future. Ping tends to follow this model with their "forged" or premium offerings. The best time to strike is when the new tech makes it's way into the cast offerings, i210! When they take whatever they learned from the feedback of the i59 and put into the next cast mid-level iron head, I'd expect it perform great and be priced more inline with i210. 

[OrangeGravy]

2 hours ago, London424 said:

There will be some of that but Titleist have just released all their clubs without insane price jumps

True, but there's really no way to tell when they secured the deal to produce their stuff. I have no idea what kind of timelines the golf equipment manufacturing industry works under, but I'd imagine contracts can be entered into prior to prices changing skyrocketing without much recourse for renegotiation

[m_w]

3 minutes ago, OrangeGravy said:

True, but there's really no way to tell when they secured the deal to produce their stuff. I have no idea what kind of timelines the golf equipment manufacturing industry works under, but I'd imagine contracts can be entered into prior to prices changing skyrocketing without much recourse for renegotiation

Exactly this. The manufacturer is eating the "loss" for Titleist.

[Whatnogarnish]

7 minutes ago, m_w said:

Exactly this. The manufacturer is eating the "loss" for Titleist.

Correct. Titleist is swangin’ that Big D. 

[eht8266]

These are pretty. Not sure I would have enough game to hit these - probably don't have the consistency to play the i210s either for that matter. Golf is hard - don't need to make it harder.

[Eidelweiss]

I hit these earlier this week with the Project X LS and ordered them at Roger Dunn. They put in the order and said today that Ping told them the clubs would delivered by September 30th.

 

The club felt really good on impact. On flushed, strong hits with the 7 iron I was getting about 160-165 yards carry with about 5800 rpm back spin from a mat with range balls. I hit my G410 7 iron for comparison and was getting about 170-175 yards carry with about 5000 rpm backspin. I imagine I'd get even better results on turf with real balls with the i59s. I did hit a clanker super low in the face that rattled my hands, and the ball still registered about 150 carry while staying on line, albeit with a lower flight. Even on off center hits that shot the balls way off target I was still getting about 155-160 yards carry. Super forgiving irons imo and they look super clean. I hope I'll be gaming these bad boys for at least the next 5 years.

Edited August 27, 2021 by Eidelweiss
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[RacineBoxer]

I think they are stunning and beautiful looking. The playing appearance of a traditional blade but when you lift it up the back looks super modern and techy while still being super clean. A+++

[RacineBoxer]

14 hours ago, m_w said:

 

I think price increases are mainly driven by the enormous rise of material costs. Expect a lot of new launches to clock in higher than previously. In addition, inflation is incredibly high right now (compared to the past 10 years), adding to that pressure.

 

Materials and labor shortages (which can lead overtime and expedited freight). A lot of manufacturer's are working on their 2nd, 3rd or 4th price increase already of 2021. I wouldn't be surprised if Ping's approach is to come out bullish on price, make sure they can meet demand the first 6 months and then readjust if necessary. People can argue this both ways but if you're Ping would you rather come out at $1750 and meet reduced demand for 6 months, then reduce the price to $1500 if the supply chain and workforce challenges ease, or would you rather come out at $1500, have crazy backlogs, work your people 7 days a week, have horrible on time delivery and then potentially raise prices in 6 months? 

 

The T100's and the P790's are $1300. The i59's are $1750. It's a jump, but it's not like these things are $2300. I'm sure Ping feels it's a premium product, with more technology and better quality. I bet they will sell pretty good - IF - we see a lot of tour adoption. I'm slightly surprised we haven't seen more guys switching over more quickly. I personally think it's important for sales. 

[bobbyclampett!!]

I'm torn about trying these. I have been playing i200s for last two and a half years and I would say I'm just starting to fully know, trust, and love them. I can't really imagine anything "feeling" (aka sounding) better than when I hit the i200 in the middle. And when I mishit them, especially on toe and thin shots, I am stunned at how the ball flies. You will often hear me say "That's all Ping on that one!"  I guess maybe the one place I could say the i200 could be improved for me is that the 8i-9i-and PW fly pretty high. Wouldn't mind seeing those with a more penetrating flight. I guess the bottom line is just that I'm not in the market for new irons, and not sure I ever will be with the way the i200s last. But boy are these pretty and I'm sure they look, feel, sound, and perform incredibly well for those in the market for irons in this segment.

 

Sorry if this falls in the "Cool story, bro" category. I just wanted to weigh in so bad!

[WarEagleGolf]

10 minutes ago, bobbyclampett!! said:

I'm torn about trying these. I have been playing i200s for last two and a half years and I would say I'm just starting to fully know, trust, and love them. I can't really imagine anything "feeling" (aka sounding) better than when I hit the i200 in the middle. And when I mishit them, especially on toe and thin shots, I am stunned at how the ball flies. You will often hear me say "That's all Ping on that one!"  I guess maybe the one place I could say the i200 could be improved for me is that the 8i-9i-and PW fly pretty high. Wouldn't mind seeing those with a more penetrating flight. I guess the bottom line is just that I'm not in the market for new irons, and not sure I ever will be with the way the i200s last. But boy are these pretty and I'm sure they look, feel, sound, and perform incredibly well for those in the market for irons in this segment.

 

Sorry if this falls in the "Cool story, bro" category. I just wanted to weigh in so bad!

Cool story bro..😄 don't listen to these jerks....do what you need, want and like....we don't all need new clubs every week and we don't all hit it 320.  With our 2i. 

 

Pings did used to be 'more' indestructible, i200 included.  My s55 look better than my i500, probably same # of rounds, but they both still look good.  

 

I'm gonna take a look, but I no longer have access to all the shafts and combos...going to need to head back to my fitter.  Locally, they just won't have the options I'm looking for. 

 

Would like to switch to graphite (c'mon kbs let me win one freaking contest), or just rebuild with my ctapers (without paying the upcharge again) both of which will require expertise I don't have with clubs this expensive.  

 

With all the tech and the weights and such, ping needs to build these for me, or my master fitter, who can order correct weight to build properly.  Very sensitive to SW.  

 

But dayum, these are sexy.  I think I have the game for them and miss the (like poster above) the more blade style short irons penetrating flight.  

 

 

 

[Mookieb10]

On 8/26/2021 at 5:43 PM, Indygolfer18 said:

Was able to hit these yesterday...I was blown away as they were awesome. The hosel/heel transition wasn't as noticeable to me as the toe shape was. Very forgiving for the small profile of the club and that's the biggest takeaway for me, I'm surprised that some of the tour guys have iBlade in the 4, 5, or 6 but maybe they generate enough spin to hold those clubs on a green. I love the look of blades but still need a little help.

 

It sounded a like a dull click compared to some of the clubs I've recently tested, but it felt great. If I was blindfolded I couldn't tell if it was the i210 or i59 on a center face strike.

 

I would consider these, but the price is the deal killer since I'm replacing the entire bag right now. There are cheaper (as if $1100+ is cheap) irons that will elevate my game the same these would. You won't be disappointed in them if you buy them though! The cool kids these days are playing PING for a reason.

I’d think it would be really tough to consistently strike either club well if you were blindfolded. 

[awtryau89]

I hit the 7 iron today indoors. For the people saying this is not a forged feeling golf club, I would disagree. It is a different feeling club but I would say its softer feeling that the T100s and Mizuno JPX. They had a used set of JPX 921s Tours on the rack and I hit it next to the i59. They didn't have any MPs built nearby to try so can't say for sure on that. Still out of my price range but satisfied my curiosity today. Nice clubs and people are going to love them that are willing to pay the price.

[Eston]

I’ll give that NEW PING price a shot! Would be moving from ping s56 irons. Been a minute with them. DURABILITY. Looking forward to the length comparison so I can get a better idea. Full fitting FOR me in the winter for sure. Have some time to ponder shafts. 

[m_w]

Got to spend some more time with them yesterday, hitting them side by side with the 2021 T100, T100S and T200.

 

Ballspeed and distance, the i59 fits right between the T100 and T100S. The spin that’s being produced (for me) is essentially at T100 levels, so it’s quite a spinny iron. The T200 spins about 500rpm less for me. Ballspeed of the T200 is significantly faster vs the i59. Spin for me was T100 = i59 > T100S = T200. Ballspeed T200 > T100S > i59 > T100.
 

Forgiveness is certainly higher on the i59 than the T100 and it’s also higher than the T100S, which I did find reacting better to low strikes than the non-S version, but the i59 is definitely above both across the face. Compared with the T200, the i59 is a good bit less forgiving. The forgiveness of the new T200 is pretty astounding in my opinion, especially the carry drop off on toe strikes. I’d say for me T200 >> i59 > T100S > T100

 

Feel, the T100 feels the most solid, the most “forged” and the softest (mind you, it’s no Epon) of them all. The T100S felt similar but a little mushier in feedback on strike location. I59 to me feels like a mix of the T200, which I would describe as dense but slightly clicky, and the T100. The i59 has more of a forged feel than the T200 but there is some slight click to the sound as well. To me, the i59 also felt the hardest or harshest of them all. I’m not gonna rank this since it’s so individual.

 

Trajectory for me was interesting, the T100 and i59 being the highest, the T200 second and T100S third. Given the strong lofts of the T200, it’s clear that we are now past the era where Loft -really- mattered that much. I should note that all irons were within 9 feet of each other, all had a decent angle above 45 for me. Highest to lowest i59 = T100 > T200 > T100S

 

hope this helps some folks that either can’t test themselves or are considering multiple new 2021 irons

 

im ultimately going to go with the slightly larger package of the T200.

Edited August 28, 2021 by m_w

[mtnbiker5]

Just played a round with an iron of i59 & T100.  They're both nice, Ping going to sell a lot of them along with Titleist, but for me, didn't feel as good as a mizuno.  Both clean looking.  I didn't like how the groove's on i59 didn't extend more across the face of the club either.  Its weird, you have to look at it.  At one point I was thinking what did Ping do here?   I wasn't getting any more distance nor did I find dispersion to be any better than my current Mizzy's.  I also had the T100 which I thought was nice but not a game changer either.  If I had to choose between the two I'd probably go i59 because it did have a softer feel than T100 which I liked but not enough for me to change.   If new clubs aren't significantly better in feel/look at address and distance for me its a no go.  Nice clubs though, no knocks.  

[m_w]

54 minutes ago, mtnbiker5 said:

Just played a round with an iron of i59 & T100.  They're both nice, Ping going to sell a lot of them along with Titleist, but for me, didn't feel as good as a mizuno.  Both clean looking.  I didn't like how the groove's on i59 didn't extend more across the face of the club either.  Its weird, you have to look at it.  At one point I was thinking what did Ping do here?   I wasn't getting any more distance nor did I find dispersion to be any better than my current Mizzy's.  I also had the T100 which I thought was nice but not a game changer either.  If I had to choose between the two I'd probably go i59 because it did have a softer feel than T100 which I liked but not enough for me to change.   If new clubs aren't significantly better in feel/look at address and distance for me its a no go.  Nice clubs though, no knocks.  

The i59 had a softer feel than T100 to you? Wow, i guess feel really is super subjective

[animalgolfs]

1 hour ago, m_w said:

The i59 had a softer feel than T100 to you? Wow, i guess feel really is super subjective

Which ball were you both using? The ball plays a big role in "feels"

[m_w]

Just now, animalgolfs said:

Which ball were you both using? The ball plays a big role in "feels"

 

I hit two different balls, a Pro V1x and a Mizuno Tour RB. I generally always do this when testing irons to make sure that the iron still works for me if I should end up switching balls.

[JourdanM]

Has anyone ever done power spec from ping ? Would the turf interaction be affected significantly ?

[Sfd732]

I took a demo iron to the range today. I loved the look but am unsure if it is a good fit for me. I agree with all the reviews that say straight and high. I have a set of titleist coming this week I will do a comparison with. I don't think I am a fan of the PX LS though right now I am using stiffer version of the regular PX that I love.