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1 hour ago, ignitewvu said:

along with maybe a "Smaller" fairway wood the Sim fairways to me were just too big.

 

Same. And hopefully in lefty, as well. I just picked up an M5 3 wood after playing with the SIM for two months, prior, I was gaming the Callaway Rogue Sub Zero. I can get a better feel for M5 head at 161cc vs the SIM at 180cc, because the weight is condensed in a smaller footprint. Also, I couldn't get used to the size of the SIM for shots off tight lies, it didn't look like it was going to get the ball airborne. And it did not do well in any rough.

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2 minutes ago, 0cean said:

 

Same. And hopefully in lefty, as well. I just picked up an M5 3 wood after playing with the SIM for two months, prior, I was gaming the Callaway Rogue Sub Zero. I can get a better feel for M5 head at 161cc vs the SIM at 180cc, because the weight is condensed in a smaller footprint. Also, I couldn't get used to the size of the SIM for shots off tight lies, it didn't look like it was going to get the ball airborne. And it did not do well in any rough.

I love my M5 once the right shaft was installed it has been amazing.  Best Fairway I have owned probably since my R7 HFS or my Aeroburner TP. 

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1 hour ago, ignitewvu said:

Nothing official....

 

Many people would like to see TM release a Supplemental driver to the series and keep the SIM & SIM Max in the lineup 1 more year.


Personally I would LOVE to see a SIM Driver with a DEEP face released along with maybe a "Smaller" fairway wood the Sim fairways to me were just too big.

 

4 minutes ago, 0cean said:

 

Same. And hopefully in lefty, as well. I just picked up an M5 3 wood after playing with the SIM for two months, prior, I was gaming the Callaway Rogue Sub Zero. I can get a better feel for M5 head at 161cc vs the SIM at 180cc, because the weight is condensed in a smaller footprint. Also, I couldn't get used to the size of the SIM for shots off tight lies, it didn't look like it was going to get the ball airborne. And it did not do well in any rough.

 

Agreed!  There is a SIM "small" 3 wood and 5 wood on tour.  Some heads on on ebay they are like half the size!  

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46 minutes ago, webber said:

 

 

Agreed!  There is a SIM "small" 3 wood and 5 wood on tour.  Some heads on on ebay they are like half the size!  

 

That one Niblick is selling for 650 looks tiny......

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On 10/6/2020 at 12:42 PM, ignitewvu said:

Nothing official....

 

Many people would like to see TM release a Supplemental driver to the series and keep the SIM & SIM Max in the lineup 1 more year.


Personally I would LOVE to see a SIM Driver with a DEEP face released along with maybe a "Smaller" fairway wood the Sim fairways to me were just too big.

Fw’s At 180cc I thought so also , there are tour issue small heads but are $$$ 

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On 10/6/2020 at 12:42 PM, ignitewvu said:

Nothing official....

 

Many people would like to see TM release a Supplemental driver to the series and keep the SIM & SIM Max in the lineup 1 more year.


Personally I would LOVE to see a SIM Driver with a DEEP face released along with maybe a "Smaller" fairway wood the Sim fairways to me were just too big.

So the SIM isn't low-spinning enough? Or are you wanting something as deep faced as those old Yonex/Tourstage drivers?

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11 hours ago, liveagua said:

So the SIM isn't low-spinning enough? 

Not for me. Went after fall bargain and tested SIM 10,5 against my10,5 16' M2 with Tour ADDI. Ball speed were 1-2 up with SIM but SIM spin around 2600 where M2 is solid around 2200, SIM adjusted to get same launch window with AD DI so it wasn't even close to take a spot on the roster.

Would prefer deeper face, but I have my eyes on G425 now (OT obviously).

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I would love to see the SIM 2.0 or whatever TM is going to call it as well.  I have the SIM Max and  SIM 15 degree and love them.  I did get to try the Tour Issue Sim v2 3 metal and while I do like the smaller profile head, my tour connect wanted way too much much for it so I passed on it.  I'm very happy with my current set up but being the golf whore I am,  I'm always open to trying new clubs, hehe.  

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Count me in for a deep faced 460cc driver. It's the only conceivable thing that could keep me from getting a TSi3.

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I finally pulled the trigger on a SIM Max D driver because I love the deep face. I have a tendency to snap hook from time to time but as much as I have to work to turn over the SIM Max, I feel I’ll be ok. I feel a lot of people overlook it because it’s the “draw head” for hacks but I know some guys on tour used it. 
Back to SIM 2.0 I do really hope they go back to a deep face option like maybe a 430cc option. I’d be making another donation to Taylormade for sure!

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On 10/15/2020 at 11:15 AM, geesecougar2 said:

Count me in for a deep faced 460cc driver. It's the only conceivable thing that could keep me from getting a TSi3.

Count me in for the 430 SIM as it’s the only conceivable thing that could keep me from getting  TSi3. 🙂

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I'd love to just get my SiM Ti fairways hotmelted to keep them from going left. They need some extra toe weighting for my ball flight

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On 10/6/2020 at 12:05 PM, webber said:

 

 

Agreed!  There is a SIM "small" 3 wood and 5 wood on tour.  Some heads on on ebay they are like half the size!  

The smaller SIM Ti 3 wd is only about 10-12 cc smaller than the standard SIM Ti 3wd . I have had both sizes since the first of January. It is not easy to see the difference. You have to put them side by side. I thought I would prefer the smaller head, but in the end I have been playing the larger one. Interestingly the larger SIM head has been preferred to the smaller but the SIM MAX 3wd has those who prefer that club because the Titanium SIM was too long for some of the guys thus they have gone with the Steel SIM MAX. 

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In the bag: Playing --- SIM TaylorMade driver w/Fujikura Ventus Blue 6S. 3wd TM SIM (set @ 16*) with Fuji Atmos Blue Tour Spec 7S. 5 wd TM SIM w/Fujikura Atmos Red Tour Spec 7X (set @18.5*). HyBrids-Cleveland Hi-Bore #1 (16* plays like 2-Iron) W/Fuji-S.,  RBZ-2 Tour 5 w/Fuji MCH 80-S alternates with SIM Max #4 (set @ 21.5* w/ Fuji Atmos HB Black Tour Spec 9S,  Irons TM M-3 4i bent to 5i, loft TM P760 6-9,PW all w/Fuji Pro 95i-S. SW-TM Hi Toe 56* 4-way grind bent to 54* w/Modus 105-S, LW- TM Hi-Toe 60 C-grind Tour only custom grind raw face Grind bent to 59* w/NS Pro 950GH-S, Putter-- BOBBY GRACE Night&Day-Custom, M.Coz-Bandsaw Prototype. Ball TaylorMade TP5X.
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7 hours ago, MCoz said:

The SIM 3 wd is only about 10-12 cc smaller. I have had both sizes since the first of January. It is not easy to see the difference. You have to put them side by side. I thought I would prefer the smaller head, but in the end I have been playing the larger one. Interestingly the larger SIM head has been preferred to the smaller but the SIM MAX 3wd has those who prefer that club because the Titanium SIM was too long for some of the guys thus they have gone with the Steel SIM MAX. 

 

I totally disagree the SIMti is 20cc's smaller than the M5ti Fairway and it shows in it's footprint.


Also we are seeing "As I predicted" that the tour guys were playing a totally different SIMti Fairway on tour.  They are popping up on ebay now.

 

As for the regular SIM your are correct it's not too much bigger but if you have a Tour M6 you see the difference.

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15 hours ago, MCoz said:

The SIM 3 wd is only about 10-12 cc smaller. I have had both sizes since the first of January. It is not easy to see the difference. You have to put them side by side. I thought I would prefer the smaller head, but in the end I have been playing the larger one. Interestingly the larger SIM head has been preferred to the smaller but the SIM MAX 3wd has those who prefer that club because the Titanium SIM was too long for some of the guys thus they have gone with the Steel SIM MAX. 

SORRY. I HAVE A MAJOR TYPO IN MY POST--- The SIM "tour" 3 wd is only about 10-12 cc than the STANDARD SIM 3wd. Both are Titanium and they both have exactly the same graphics. The first run on these were virtually identical and hard to tell the difference. I had to mark the smaller head to avoid confusion. I will try to correct the original post.

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8 hours ago, ignitewvu said:

 

I totally disagree the SIMti is 20cc's smaller than the M5ti Fairway and it shows in it's footprint.


Also we are seeing "As I predicted" that the tour guys were playing a totally different SIMti Fairway on tour.  They are popping up on ebay now.

 

As for the regular SIM your are correct it's not too much bigger but if you have a Tour M6 you see the difference.

I made an edit to my original post. But as for the Tour Players it was thought by TM that most of the Tour would use the smaller SIM Ti but that has not been the case in use. That's why they are coming up for sale. I have been in communication with TM when they came out. The response to the slightly head was not what they expected in comparison. The larger head is more accurate without having essentially a  negative larger look and the turf interaction was basically the same.

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On 10/15/2020 at 2:57 PM, jetmech879 said:

I finally pulled the trigger on a SIM Max D driver because I love the deep face. I have a tendency to snap hook from time to time but as much as I have to work to turn over the SIM Max, I feel I’ll be ok. I feel a lot of people overlook it because it’s the “draw head” for hacks but I know some guys on tour used it. 
Back to SIM 2.0 I do really hope they go back to a deep face option like maybe a 430cc option. I’d be making another donation to Taylormade for sure!

Did the same here. Went Sim Max at first and wasn’t in love with the face height even though it performed. So I went Type D with some neutral hot melt to neutralize the D weighting a little and add swing weight (44.75” length) set to lowest and perfect. It’s everything I ever wanted in a driver. 
 

Agree strongly with a 430 deep face for another payment to TM. It never ends. 

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Didn't like the look when it first came out, now I really like it. I'm sure the SIM 2.0 will be the same, just takes seeing it in person at address. I'd personally like a black/white theme. The colors are meh to me. 

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On 10/15/2020 at 5:57 PM, jetmech879 said:

I finally pulled the trigger on a SIM Max D driver because I love the deep face. I have a tendency to snap hook from time to time but as much as I have to work to turn over the SIM Max, I feel I’ll be ok. I feel a lot of people overlook it because it’s the “draw head” for hacks but I know some guys on tour used it. 
Back to SIM 2.0 I do really hope they go back to a deep face option like maybe a 430cc option. I’d be making another donation to Taylormade for sure!

 

10 hours ago, evoviiiyou said:

Did the same here. Went Sim Max at first and wasn’t in love with the face height even though it performed. So I went Type D with some neutral hot melt to neutralize the D weighting a little and add swing weight (44.75” length) set to lowest and perfect. It’s everything I ever wanted in a driver. 
 

Agree strongly with a 430 deep face for another payment to TM. It never ends. 

 

The D looks good and I would get it, but wish there was an 8 degree model because like to loft up to close the face a bit to help me start my fade left. 

 

Is the D really that draw biased? How does it spin compared to the Sim and Max?

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