Ping i230 pic

[JZ75]

I’ve been under the impression for some time that pre-orders would be at the end of October with an early November release.  I’ve always assumed that the clubs would arrive in early Jan.  

 

Maybe my expectations were too low to begin with but I don’t think anything has changed.  

[54CW]

If my calculations are correct, I should expect to find my used set of i230s August 2023? 
 

[hackalot]

Was in a store today and asked if they’d heard anything on these and was told no. Said they saw the G430 woods, but haven’t heard anything on these?? Weird 

[Carolina Golfer 2]

I’ve read all the comments about what people have been told as for release.  I’m not saying my info is gospel but just Passimg it on. 
 

Formal announcement should come early to mid November.  There will be a limited release to select accounts later in the moth.  But not w full release.  That will come on February. 

[BCC1898]

If that’s true, they’re definitely totally set on F’ing this up. 

[halfsumo]

It'll be fine if they keep the i series on the same 2-5 year cycle they've been on. The only short release period seemed to be i200 --> i210. Seemed like only a year or so between those.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

41 minutes ago, BCC1898 said:

If that’s true, they’re definitely totally set on F’ing this up. 

LOL. I think I trust the marketing and sales team at a global organization who has done this for decades vs you my friend. Especially when there’s a redundancy with “definitely, totally…” LOL

[Foreleft]

Would that be the same team that brought the i59’s to market and the Heppler line of putters?
 

Or maybe it’s the team that promised delivery of my i210’s for 9 months last year while missing 3 delivery dates, with little to no communication.

 

They have gone from an engineering company to the gang that can’t shoot straight.

Edited October 17, 2022 by Foreleft

[Brooks_Cupcake]

37 minutes ago, Foreleft said:

Would that be the same team that brought the i59’s to market and the Heppler line of putters?
 

Or maybe it’s the team that promised delivery of my i210’s for 9 months last year while missing 3 delivery dates, with little to no communication.

 

They have gone from an engineering company to the gang that can’t shoot straight.

While normally that would be a solid take, I ordered my T100 in May and they were supposed to arrive August 2nd, and even went to “shipped” status only to be moved back into “production”, and then updated again to “shipped” 10 days ago and still nothing. 
Sorry but unless you’re on tour, there’s no “team” for you because you shelled out the same $ that John down the street did. 

[eric61]

42 minutes ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

While normally that would be a solid take, I ordered my T100 in May and they were supposed to arrive August 2nd, and even went to “shipped” status only to be moved back into “production”, and then updated again to “shipped” 10 days ago and still nothing. 
Sorry but unless you’re on tour, there’s no “team” for you because you shelled out the same $ that John down the street did. 

I will say, for anyone who needs something fast … Callaway is the way to go. Last Wednesday, I ordered two wedges, a putter and a hybrid. I was quoted three to four weeks on the wedges, one to two weeks on the hybrid and putter. All four clubs arrived at my door on Saturday — three days after I ordered them. (And in that time they were shipped from Mexico to Chicago.) It’s pretty incredible how fast Callaway is right now.

[NailedIt]

For S&G I searched i230 in my browser and they popped up on the TGW.com site. Now there was no pic or specs but they were listed for $187.50 a club. I have to imagine they are coming soon but it is odd nothing from Ping as of yet. They do seem to be going into a lot of pros bags though which is a good sign.

[BCC1898]

10 hours ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

While normally that would be a solid take, I ordered my T100 in May and they were supposed to arrive August 2nd, and even went to “shipped” status only to be moved back into “production”, and then updated again to “shipped” 10 days ago and still nothing. 
Sorry but unless you’re on tour, there’s no “team” for you because you shelled out the same $ that John down the street did. 

Ummm...you brought up your trust in the marketing and sales "team".  Can't have it both ways bud.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

51 minutes ago, BCC1898 said:

Ummm...you brought up your trust in the marketing and sales "team".  Can't have it both ways bud.

Correct. And it’s not my team, so I have no worries. They’ll figure out the release for “you” and make sure they update you accordingly.

[BCC1898]

23 minutes ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

Correct. And it’s not my team, so I have no worries. They’ll figure out the release for “you” and make sure they update you accordingly.

Yeah, it's not me,  but anyone that's been interested in their product for the last 2+ years.  Your general role in the forum is to argue nonsensical points, but defending Ping's terrible performance of late is next level dumb.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

1 minute ago, BCC1898 said:

Yeah, it's not me,  but anyone that's been interested in their product for the last 2+ years.  Your general role in the forum is to argue nonsensical points, but defending Ping's terrible performance of late is next level dumb.

Glad you have it all figured out, and I have no worries about your perception of me! I’m not arguing anything here I’m simply letting you know that Ping isn’t the only one with terrible performance, but the only major OEM that seems to have it dialled in is Callaway.

we will see how the OEM Tier 2 - Mizuno, Srixon and Cobra releases are in the spring.

[Byrdman2230]

12 hours ago, Foreleft said:

Would that be the same team that brought the i59’s to market and the Heppler line of putters?

What was wrong with these releases? 

[Carolina Golfer 2]

14 hours ago, eric61 said:

I will say, for anyone who needs something fast … Callaway is the way to go. Last Wednesday, I ordered two wedges, a putter and a hybrid. I was quoted three to four weeks on the wedges, one to two weeks on the hybrid and putter. All four clubs arrived at my door on Saturday — three days after I ordered them. (And in that time they were shipped from Mexico to Chicago.) It’s pretty incredible how fast Callaway is right now.

I would say TaylorMade and Mizuno are right there as well.   Getting most anything from TM shipped in less than 5 days, and often sent two fed ex,  My JPX Hot Metal HL's arrived almost a week to the day from order date.  Same with a couple other orders from them of late. 

 

Titleist has delivered most of the TSR's we ordered within 2 weeks.  

[BubbaBallesteros]

Not another bitching matching about product delays.....

[coloradogolf72]

16 hours ago, Foreleft said:

Would that be the same team that brought the i59’s to market and the Heppler line of putters?
 

Or maybe it’s the team that promised delivery of my i210’s for 9 months last year while missing 3 delivery dates, with little to no communication.

 

They have gone from an engineering company to the gang that can’t shoot straight.

 

You've described the experience almost every company has had since mid 2020. Covid did a number on these companies and no one could have predicted it. Pair that with a couple really unfortunate events like cargo ships losing cargo boxes full of Ping equipment (I believe Titleist had the same thing happen to them), and it's just not easy to come back from. Ping was not intending for things to go this way, but with the way things went, they are just trying to get their heads above water. I cringe anytime I see someone complaining about lead times. I had an order in September of last year for a TM SIM2 3 wood and it populated an estimated ship date of November 2023 until they called and said it wasn't happening at all. 

[BCC1898]

46 minutes ago, coloradogolf72 said:

 

You've described the experience almost every company has had since mid 2020. Covid did a number on these companies and no one could have predicted it. Pair that with a couple really unfortunate events like cargo ships losing cargo boxes full of Ping equipment (I believe Titleist had the same thing happen to them), and it's just not easy to come back from. Ping was not intending for things to go this way, but with the way things went, they are just trying to get their heads above water. I cringe anytime I see someone complaining about lead times. I had an order in September of last year for a TM SIM2 3 wood and it populated an estimated ship date of November 2023 until they called and said it wasn't happening at all. 

Not all companies have had the same problem as PIng!  Customers have not been able to order their flagship line of irons for almost 24 months.  That has not been typical across the board. Some delays? Yes.

 

  I can't imagine the outcry on here if Titleist hadn't shipped T100 irons in 2 years. Or if TM didn't ship drivers! It's the cult of Ping that for some reason is accepting of this nonsense.

[GolfTurkey]

22 minutes ago, BCC1898 said:

Not all companies have had the same problem as PIng!  Customers have not been able to order their flagship line of irons for almost 24 months.  That has not been typical across the board. Some delays? Yes.

 

  I can't imagine the outcry on here if Titleist hadn't shipped T100 irons in 2 years. Or if TM didn't ship drivers! It's the cult of Ping that for some reason is accepting of this nonsense.

It’s a common scenario across multiple industries at the moment, not just golf.

 

Supply chain and logistical challenges persist, and some companies have figured out a way and normalised or almost normalised production, and some have not.

[coloradogolf72]

30 minutes ago, BCC1898 said:

Not all companies have had the same problem as PIng!  Customers have not been able to order their flagship line of irons for almost 24 months.  That has not been typical across the board. Some delays? Yes.

 

  I can't imagine the outcry on here if Titleist hadn't shipped T100 irons in 2 years. Or if TM didn't ship drivers! It's the cult of Ping that for some reason is accepting of this nonsense.

The i210s were not intended to be the flagship model for this long. I am fairly certain the i230s were supposed to come out much sooner. And you’re tunnel visioned on this one. 
 

Covid hits and materials are impossible to find. Their plant shuts down for extended periods of time. Now they have to push back launches. So now their stock of current or soon to be replaced clubs is running low. And it wouldn’t make much sense to make more i210s for what I’m sure is a fairly small group. So they take their time to get back on track. Covid hit after Spring, so the OEMs that had spring releases got their equipment out 

[BCC1898]

1 hour ago, coloradogolf72 said:

The i210s were not intended to be the flagship model for this long. I am fairly certain the i230s were supposed to come out much sooner. And you’re tunnel visioned on this one. 
 

Covid hits and materials are impossible to find. Their plant shuts down for extended periods of time. Now they have to push back launches. So now their stock of current or soon to be replaced clubs is running low. And it wouldn’t make much sense to make more i210s for what I’m sure is a fairly small group. So they take their time to get back on track. Covid hit after Spring, so the OEMs that had spring releases got their equipment out 

Ok, so why are they the only OEM that has had problems to this level? EVERY other manufacturer released new product…maybe not in the exact schedule they started on, but launched successfully nonetheless. Only one hasn't…Ping. 

[coloradogolf72]

48 minutes ago, BCC1898 said:

Ok, so why are they the only OEM that has had problems to this level? EVERY other manufacturer released new product…maybe not in the exact schedule they started on, but launched successfully nonetheless. Only one hasn't…Ping. 

 

I'm not going to be able to provide an answer that is going sway you or anyone because I don't know the inner workings of every company. I know Callaway has a factory in Mexico which was a massive reason they were able to get through Covid and keep up. Titleist has had some big difficulties, TaylorMade has run out of stock of Stealth + equipment now. I think it's a combination of when new product was coming out and what materials were needed for it. Ping is also privately owned as well, so that affects their day to day operations. 

 

I truly think it was a perfect storm for Ping. They'll catch back up, but it takes time to recover from this. There are everlasting consequences of Covid. I know that in Spring of 2021 Ping was having to work extensively with their overseas operations because of how other countries were handling Covid. I remember talking with a rep and they were saying that oversea factories were completely shutting down for several months, which is impossible to simply shift or pivot to restore operations.

 

I also think it's a testament to Ping that the i210s were still in demand after being in production that long, so it's so hard for me to throw them out because they had troubles, possibly more than other OEMs, because of a pandemic. This new line coming from Ping is special from what I hear and I'm happy to see them gaining traction again.   

[halfsumo]

It's because PING make clubs as a hobby according to people on here. /s

 

Them being privately held and having other businesses may actually have something to do with it, though. Probably just a string of bad luck. I got my custom G425 5 wood in like 5 days a few months ago and just got a 425 hybrid that took about two weeks. 

[Whatnogarnish]

Hopefully the containers arriving with the new i230s and G430s don’t sink like they did the last release. 

[Kball10]

Wow - would be nice if this thread was actually about the Ping i230.

[vernon]

11 hours ago, Kball10 said:

Wow - would be nice if this thread was actually about the Ping i230.

Indeed.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

2 hours ago, vernon said:

Indeed.

 

 

13 hours ago, Kball10 said:

Wow - would be nice if this thread was actually about the Ping i230.

Given they aren’t out yet, nor are the details made public, there’s nothing to really chat about except the pics of the damages to the Pro’s clubs, and other’s previous experiences with Ping and/or other OEM supply chain issues with past releases and speculation on how they’ll perform on these once released.

 

feel free to add your comments on your knowledge of the i230 from your experiences thus far with the club

[NRJyzr]

21 hours ago, BubbaBallesteros said:

Not another bitching matching about product delays.....

 

I think the Veruca Salt gif earlier sums up much of this thread....