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Driver Thoughts - Callaway Epic Flash vs. Cobra F9

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  • Lip1337Lip1337 Members  604WRX Points: 60Posts: 604 Golden Tee
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    Pi5seeker wrote:
    <br />
    I don't think I could play the Flash if it we're free and gave me 20 yards. That thing is so ugly!<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Wow 🙈 at Adresse the SZ Looks better than any other driver
    Posted:
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    leftycabe wrote:
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    Correct - I think almost everyone has hit the EFSZ longer than anything else. It seems dispersion has been tighter for most everyone with the F9. I would imagine that is due to the higher spin. At this point, I need to hit 1-2 more fairways more than I need 5 extra yards.<br />
    <br />
    I also agree with the TXG sentiment. If there is a better YouTube channel for golf gear, I've never watched it. Those guys are amazingly knowledgeable and seem to be genuinely good guys. If I only had the coin to fly to Canada and get fit........ Where I'm at, finding a quality fitter within 3 hours is difficult. Almost as difficult as finding the time to make the trip to get fit when you have two kids under 3 and an accountant for a wife - in the middle of tax season! <br />
    <br />
    Ultimately, I think any new driver out there will perform. I think the "old" (2 years old) drivers can still deliver great results too. <br />
    <br />
    I'm still trying to convince myself of the F9's accuracy versus the Epic SZ's length. I also tend to hit deeper headed drivers better than standard height drivers. I would say that's from my typically slightly high toe miss. <br />
    <br />
    Thank you all for your opinions. This is my first ever thread and it has been fun to see everyone's thoughts.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    That’s it... I don’t think I switch from my XR16 pro to the flash sz. <br />
    But I totally consider a upgrade my rogue pro irons to new apex... have to test the CF and Pros
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    Cobra F7 3W 15,5° PX EvenFlow Black 75 Handcrafted
    Cobra King Utility 18° KBS C-Taper Lite 110 or Cobra F8 Hybrid 19° HZRDUS Black
    Cobra Forged Tec 4-PW KBS C-Taper 120
    Cleveland RTX 4 50/54/58 DG TI S400
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  • GC70GC70 What's Next? State of HockeyClubWRX  7877WRX Points: 351Handicap: 7.1Posts: 7,877 Titanium Tees
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    I had a driver fitting yesterday. Going into the fitting I was 90% sure I was going to come out with the Epic Flash Subzero. Boy was I wrong. This is my take away from the fitting. <br />
    All heads at 9* with the Atmos TS Blue and a brand new Pro Vâ&euro;™s on track man indoors. <br />
    <br />
    Look:<br />
    EFS<br />
    M5/F9/TS3 <br />
    G400 Max<br />
    <br />
    Sound and feel:<br />
    F9/TS3 <br />
    M5<br />
    Max/EFS<br />
    <br />
    Launch:<br />
    TS3 <br />
    F9<br />
    M5/EFS/Max<br />
    <br />
    Lowest Spin:<br />
    TS3 <br />
    F9<br />
    M5/EFS/Max<br />
    <br />
    Distance:<br />
    TS3 <br />
    F9 <br />
    EFS <br />
    M5<br />
    Max<br />
    <br />
    Dispersion:<br />
    F9 <br />
    TS3 <br />
    Max <br />
    M5/EFS <br />
    <br />
    We ended up at the end of the fitting adjusting the F9 down to 8* and bingo lowered the spin and beat out the TS3. <br />
    <br />
    Plus $450 vs $750 is a no brainer.
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    Lip1337 wrote:
    <br />
    Like the Flash SZ pretty much, the sliding weight is a game changer! <br />
    With the right shaft it’s not too low spin...<br />
    <br />
    One question: per inch which i cut off my driver or wood shaft I have to add 8g of lead tape? Is that right?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Yes. If you wish the SW to stay the same as before the chop, it’s 4 grams per 1/2 inch, 8 grams per inch.<br />
    <br />
    There is no “rule” that you have to return it to the same weight. Perhaps you might like it a point or two lighter. I happen to have my LTD currently at D1.5. It was d-3 originally before I built mine at 43.5”. 1.5” short. I added back about 10 grams.
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    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
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  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user FloridaMembers  7136WRX Points: 1,371Handicap: 3.9-9.3-7.7 (Health issue)Posts: 7,136 Titanium Tees
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    GC70 wrote:
    <br />
    I had a driver fitting yesterday. Going into the fitting I was 90% sure I was going to come out with the Epic Flash Subzero. Boy was I wrong. This is my take away from the fitting.<br />
    All heads at 9* with the Atmos TS Blue and a brand new Pro Vâ&euro;™s on track man indoors.<br />
    <br />
    Look:<br />
    EFS<br />
    M5/F9/TS3<br />
    G400 Max<br />
    <br />
    Sound and feel:<br />
    F9/TS3<br />
    M5<br />
    Max/EFS<br />
    <br />
    Launch:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    M5/EFS/Max<br />
    <br />
    Lowest Spin:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    M5/EFS/Max<br />
    <br />
    Distance:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    EFS<br />
    M5<br />
    Max<br />
    <br />
    Dispersion:<br />
    F9<br />
    TS3<br />
    Max<br />
    M5/EFS<br />
    <br />
    We ended up at the end of the fitting adjusting the F9 down to 8* and bingo lowered the spin and beat out the TS3.<br />
    <br />
    Plus $450 vs $750 is a no brainer.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    So, looking at your signature, apparently Tensei Blue is you shaft of choice. Didn't try any others ?<br />
    <br />
    Was this at Club Champion where one shaft fits all ? Or were all the shafts specific to that manufacturer ?<br />
    <br />
    And was the Cobra the only one you changed the loft on ?<br />
    <br />
    And the shaft is stock for Cobra and $250 upcharge at TS ? And they're the same ? Yup, no brainer there then.
    Posted:

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    nsxguy wrote:
    GC70 wrote:
    <br />
    I had a driver fitting yesterday. Going into the fitting I was 90% sure I was going to come out with the Epic Flash Subzero. Boy was I wrong. This is my take away from the fitting.<br />
    All heads at 9* with the Atmos TS Blue and a brand new Pro Vâ&euro;™s on track man indoors.<br />
    <br />
    Look:<br />
    EFS<br />
    M5/F9/TS3<br />
    G400 Max<br />
    <br />
    Sound and feel:<br />
    F9/TS3<br />
    M5<br />
    Max/EFS<br />
    <br />
    Launch:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    M5/EFS/Max<br />
    <br />
    Lowest Spin:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    M5/EFS/Max<br />
    <br />
    Distance:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    EFS<br />
    M5<br />
    Max<br />
    <br />
    Dispersion:<br />
    F9<br />
    TS3<br />
    Max<br />
    M5/EFS<br />
    <br />
    We ended up at the end of the fitting adjusting the F9 down to 8* and bingo lowered the spin and beat out the TS3.<br />
    <br />
    Plus $450 vs $750 is a no brainer.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    So, looking at your signature, apparently Tensei Blue is you shaft of choice. Didn't try any others ?<br />
    <br />
    Was this at Club Champion where one shaft fits all ? Or were all the shafts specific to that manufacturer ?<br />
    <br />
    And was the Cobra the only one you changed the loft on ?<br />
    <br />
    And the shaft is stock for Cobra and $250 upcharge at TS ? And they're the same ? Yup, no brainer there then.
    <br />
    Atmos Blue is my shaft of choice. It was my gamer in M3, G400, and G400 Max. Yes I did try the Smoke and other non-upcharge. <br />
    <br />
    My fitting was at 2nd swing with my fitter that I’ve known for years. All the heads performed best with the Atmos Blue TS 6S. <br />
    <br />
    All the data was done at 9* of loft. I already made up my mind to get the F9 at 9*. After my iron fitting my fitter wanted to see what the F9 would do at 8*. <br />
    <br />
    I hope that all makes sense.
    Posted:
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    Pi5seeker wrote:
    <br />
    I don't think I could play the Flash if it we're free and gave me 20 yards. That thing is so ugly!<br />
    <br />
    So less a golfer and more of a fashion consultant critic? I get it, in your profession performance is second to the opinion of aesthetics
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  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user FloridaMembers  7136WRX Points: 1,371Handicap: 3.9-9.3-7.7 (Health issue)Posts: 7,136 Titanium Tees
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    GC70 wrote:
    <br />
    nsxguy wrote:
    GC70 wrote:
    <br />
    I had a driver fitting yesterday. Going into the fitting I was 90% sure I was going to come out with the Epic Flash Subzero. Boy was I wrong. This is my take away from the fitting.<br />
    All heads at 9* with the Atmos TS Blue and a brand new Pro Vâ&euro;™s on track man indoors.<br />
    <br />
    Look:<br />
    EFS<br />
    M5/F9/TS3<br />
    G400 Max<br />
    <br />
    Sound and feel:<br />
    F9/TS3<br />
    M5<br />
    Max/EFS<br />
    <br />
    Launch:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    M5/EFS/Max<br />
    <br />
    Lowest Spin:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    M5/EFS/Max<br />
    <br />
    Distance:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    EFS<br />
    M5<br />
    Max<br />
    <br />
    Dispersion:<br />
    F9<br />
    TS3<br />
    Max<br />
    M5/EFS<br />
    <br />
    We ended up at the end of the fitting adjusting the F9 down to 8* and bingo lowered the spin and beat out the TS3.<br />
    <br />
    Plus $450 vs $750 is a no brainer.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    So, looking at your signature, apparently Tensei Blue is you shaft of choice. Didn't try any others ?<br />
    <br />
    Was this at Club Champion where one shaft fits all ? Or were all the shafts specific to that manufacturer ?<br />
    <br />
    And was the Cobra the only one you changed the loft on ?<br />
    <br />
    And the shaft is stock for Cobra and $250 upcharge at TS ? And they're the same ? Yup, no brainer there then.
    <br />
    <br />
    Atmos Blue is my shaft of choice. It was my gamer in M3, G400, and G400 Max. Yes I did try the Smoke and other non-upcharge.<br />
    <br />
    My fitting was at 2nd swing with my fitter that I’ve known for years. All the heads performed best with the Atmos Blue TS 6S.<br />
    <br />
    All the data was done at 9* of loft. I already made up my mind to get the F9 at 9*. After my iron fitting my fitter wanted to see what the F9 would do at 8*.<br />
    <br />
    I hope that all makes sense.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Sorry about that, Atmos of course. Must've had Tensei on my mind for some reason.<br />
    <br />
    So it wasn't the same Atmos Blue shaft then ? Each of the manufacturer's had a version to test ?<br />
    <br />
    And you DID try other shafts, yes ?<br />
    <br />
    Any idea if the Cobra Atmos is a "made for" and the TS3 is the "real deal". I know TM had their own (stock & made for) version of an Atmos for the M3/M4. Worked very well - just wasn't the $300 aftermarket "Tour Spec".<br />
    <br />
    Tough choice given the TS3 beat the F9 in pretty much everything but dispersion (was it close ?) even given the $300 price difference.
    Posted:

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    Great thoughts on the drivers. The Cobra, I think, it easily the big stick of the releases so far. I must say, for the price, it's amazing. Stock shaft options are not bad either. <br />
    <br />
    M6 is getting a bit of a bad rap but, no one seems to be putting any real effort into trying them. Most pros are going M5 (obviously) for the adjustability and lower spin but, if you put a good Tensei Pro, Evenflow White (mine), or AD shaft on it, you'll get a good low spin controllable driver. <br />
    <br />
    I won't say Epic missed the mark but, I'm not seeing the same craze and daze that original Epic had. It's like a bad Jim Carrey sequel. Hit's the desires but, no real wow factor.
    Posted:
  • GC70GC70 What's Next? State of HockeyClubWRX  7877WRX Points: 351Handicap: 7.1Posts: 7,877 Titanium Tees
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    nsxguy wrote:
    GC70 wrote:
    <br />
    nsxguy wrote:
    GC70 wrote:
    <br />
    I had a driver fitting yesterday. Going into the fitting I was 90% sure I was going to come out with the Epic Flash Subzero. Boy was I wrong. This is my take away from the fitting.<br />
    All heads at 9* with the Atmos TS Blue and a brand new Pro Vâ&euro;™s on track man indoors.<br />
    <br />
    Look:<br />
    EFS<br />
    M5/F9/TS3<br />
    G400 Max<br />
    <br />
    Sound and feel:<br />
    F9/TS3<br />
    M5<br />
    Max/EFS<br />
    <br />
    Launch:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    M5/EFS/Max<br />
    <br />
    Lowest Spin:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    M5/EFS/Max<br />
    <br />
    Distance:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    EFS<br />
    M5<br />
    Max<br />
    <br />
    Dispersion:<br />
    F9<br />
    TS3<br />
    Max<br />
    M5/EFS<br />
    <br />
    We ended up at the end of the fitting adjusting the F9 down to 8* and bingo lowered the spin and beat out the TS3.<br />
    <br />
    Plus $450 vs $750 is a no brainer.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    So, looking at your signature, apparently Tensei Blue is you shaft of choice. Didn't try any others ?<br />
    <br />
    Was this at Club Champion where one shaft fits all ? Or were all the shafts specific to that manufacturer ?<br />
    <br />
    And was the Cobra the only one you changed the loft on ?<br />
    <br />
    And the shaft is stock for Cobra and $250 upcharge at TS ? And they're the same ? Yup, no brainer there then.
    <br />
    <br />
    Atmos Blue is my shaft of choice. It was my gamer in M3, G400, and G400 Max. Yes I did try the Smoke and other non-upcharge.<br />
    <br />
    My fitting was at 2nd swing with my fitter that I’ve known for years. All the heads performed best with the Atmos Blue TS 6S.<br />
    <br />
    All the data was done at 9* of loft. I already made up my mind to get the F9 at 9*. After my iron fitting my fitter wanted to see what the F9 would do at 8*.<br />
    <br />
    I hope that all makes sense.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Sorry about that, Atmos of course. Must've had Tensei on my mind for some reason.<br />
    <br />
    So it wasn't the same Atmos Blue shaft then ? Each of the manufacturer's had a version to test ?<br />
    <br />
    And you DID try other shafts, yes ?<br />
    <br />
    Any idea if the Cobra Atmos is a "made for" and the TS3 is the "real deal". I know TM had their own (stock & made for) version of an Atmos for the M3/M4. Worked very well - just wasn't the $300 aftermarket "Tour Spec".<br />
    <br />
    Tough choice given the TS3 beat the F9 in pretty much everything but dispersion (was it close ?) even given the $300 price difference.
    <br />
    <br />
    Sorry if I wasn’t clear, but I used the real deal TS Atmos in all the heads. Yes Cobra and Titleist have the real deal. TM is made for , but I tested it with the real deal TS Atmos. TS3 was launching like 1.5* lower, spinning about 500 less, and about 2 more yards. So not much difference. Dispersion is the biggest thing for me. Nothing comes close to the Cobra in that category. Plus at 8* for me it can’t be beat in any category.
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    Agree about the Flasher SZ vs F9 - last time I was at GG hitting it was between those two and I saw more distance with the SZ but it was casting a wide net all over the range. The F9 was much much tighter dispersion wise and sound/feels tons better. And that is what I went with in the end.
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    GC70 wrote:
    <br />
    nsxguy wrote:
    GC70 wrote:
    <br />
    nsxguy wrote:
    GC70 wrote:
    <br />
    I had a driver fitting yesterday. Going into the fitting I was 90% sure I was going to come out with the Epic Flash Subzero. Boy was I wrong. This is my take away from the fitting.<br />
    All heads at 9* with the Atmos TS Blue and a brand new Pro Vâ&euro;™s on track man indoors.<br />
    <br />
    Look:<br />
    EFS<br />
    M5/F9/TS3<br />
    G400 Max<br />
    <br />
    Sound and feel:<br />
    F9/TS3<br />
    M5<br />
    Max/EFS<br />
    <br />
    Launch:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    M5/EFS/Max<br />
    <br />
    Lowest Spin:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    M5/EFS/Max<br />
    <br />
    Distance:<br />
    TS3<br />
    F9<br />
    EFS<br />
    M5<br />
    Max<br />
    <br />
    Dispersion:<br />
    F9<br />
    TS3<br />
    Max<br />
    M5/EFS<br />
    <br />
    We ended up at the end of the fitting adjusting the F9 down to 8* and bingo lowered the spin and beat out the TS3.<br />
    <br />
    Plus $450 vs $750 is a no brainer.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    So, looking at your signature, apparently Tensei Blue is you shaft of choice. Didn't try any others ?<br />
    <br />
    Was this at Club Champion where one shaft fits all ? Or were all the shafts specific to that manufacturer ?<br />
    <br />
    And was the Cobra the only one you changed the loft on ?<br />
    <br />
    And the shaft is stock for Cobra and $250 upcharge at TS ? And they're the same ? Yup, no brainer there then.
    <br />
    <br />
    Atmos Blue is my shaft of choice. It was my gamer in M3, G400, and G400 Max. Yes I did try the Smoke and other non-upcharge.<br />
    <br />
    My fitting was at 2nd swing with my fitter that I’ve known for years. All the heads performed best with the Atmos Blue TS 6S.<br />
    <br />
    All the data was done at 9* of loft. I already made up my mind to get the F9 at 9*. After my iron fitting my fitter wanted to see what the F9 would do at 8*.<br />
    <br />
    I hope that all makes sense.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Sorry about that, Atmos of course. Must've had Tensei on my mind for some reason.<br />
    <br />
    So it wasn't the same Atmos Blue shaft then ? Each of the manufacturer's had a version to test ?<br />
    <br />
    And you DID try other shafts, yes ?<br />
    <br />
    Any idea if the Cobra Atmos is a "made for" and the TS3 is the "real deal". I know TM had their own (stock & made for) version of an Atmos for the M3/M4. Worked very well - just wasn't the $300 aftermarket "Tour Spec".<br />
    <br />
    Tough choice given the TS3 beat the F9 in pretty much everything but dispersion (was it close ?) even given the $300 price difference.
    <br />
    <br />
    Sorry if I wasn’t clear, but I used the real deal TS Atmos in all the heads. Yes Cobra and Titleist have the real deal. TM is made for , but I tested it with the real deal TS Atmos. TS3 was launching like 1.5* lower, spinning about 500 less, and about 2 more yards. So not much difference. Dispersion is the biggest thing for me. Nothing comes close to the Cobra in that category. Plus at 8* for me it can’t be beat in any category.<br />
    <br />
    Yes but did you use the exact same ball teed to the exact same height in a facility that had the exact same relative humidity with your hands holding the club in the exact same way on each and every shot? My goodness.
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    ShowMe wrote:
    <br />
    <br />
    Yes but did you use the exact same ball teed to the exact same height in a facility that had the exact same relative humidity with your hands holding the club in the exact same way on each and every shot? My goodness.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    You're a 1 handicap and you don't realize that all these things make a difference ? My goodness. <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/swoon.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':swoon:' />
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  • swing thoughtsswing thoughts Members  282WRX Points: 80Handicap: 2.7Posts: 282 Greens
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    The only concern you should have about buying a Cobra is that you may never buy a driver from anyone else again. I've pretty much owned everything out there from 2013 forward, and I have to say that everyone except for Cobra has put out some duds in that time. They just keep on cranking out quality offering after quality offering, and for less money. For some reason, since Rickie Fowler and Bryson DeChambeau play them and they make them in colors sometimes, some people don't take them seriously.
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    Ping G400
    Cobra f8 3 fairway 15
    Srixon f65 5 fairway 19

    TaylorMade UDI 21
    TaylorMade P730 4-pw

    Vokey 52/8
    MD3 58/11

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    Ping Fetch
  • ShowMeShowMe Members  513WRX Points: 77Handicap: 1.4Posts: 513 Golden Tee
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    nsxguy wrote:
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    ShowMe wrote:
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    Yes but did you use the exact same ball teed to the exact same height in a facility that had the exact same relative humidity with your hands holding the club in the exact same way on each and every shot? My goodness.<br />
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    You're a 1 handicap and you don't realize that all these things make a difference ? My goodness. <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/swoon.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':swoon:' /><br />
    <br />
    You seemed quite intent on invalidating his choice, even though his choice would have no impact at all on what club would work out best for you. It annoyed me. I expressed my annoyance with a pithy response. Then I got hungry and ate some lunch.
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  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user FloridaMembers  7136WRX Points: 1,371Handicap: 3.9-9.3-7.7 (Health issue)Posts: 7,136 Titanium Tees
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    ShowMe wrote:
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    nsxguy wrote:
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    ShowMe wrote:
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    Yes but did you use the exact same ball teed to the exact same height in a facility that had the exact same relative humidity with your hands holding the club in the exact same way on each and every shot? My goodness.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    You're a 1 handicap and you don't realize that all these things make a difference ? My goodness. <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/swoon.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':swoon:' /><br />
    <br />
    You seemed quite intent on invalidating his choice, even though his choice would have no impact at all on what club would work out best for you. It annoyed me. I expressed my annoyance with a pithy response. Then I got hungry and ate some lunch.<br />
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    To-MAY-to, to-MAH-to. Which one did you have on your samwich ? {burp}<br />
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    Actually I was more intent on him validating his choice; to himself. As you noted, why would I care about what he chooses to play ?<br />
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    Have a nice evening. <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':hi:' />
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  • Hookasaurus RexHookasaurus Rex Purveyor of fine turf Members  1153WRX Points: 136Posts: 1,153 Platinum Tees
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    Lip1337 wrote:
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    Pi5seeker wrote:
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    I don't think I could play the Flash if it we're free and gave me 20 yards. That thing is so ugly!<br />
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    Wow 🙈 at Adresse the SZ Looks better than any other driver<br />
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    Meh...<br />
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    Callaway EF SZ Triple💎10.5*(-1D) Aldila Copperhead 60TX
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  • Lip1337Lip1337 Members  604WRX Points: 60Posts: 604 Golden Tee
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    Lip1337 wrote:
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    Pi5seeker wrote:
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    I don't think I could play the Flash if it we're free and gave me 20 yards. That thing is so ugly!<br />
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    Wow &#55357;&#56904; at Adresse the SZ Looks better than any other driver<br />
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    Meh...<br />
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    he´s saying it´s soo ugly?! wtf
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  • leftycabeleftycabe IowaClubWRX  164WRX Points: 130Handicap: GolfPosts: 164 ClubWRX
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    TXG's review/comparison against F8+ - <br />
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    If you need me, you can find me ordering the F9.
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  • MobMob Just Another Lefty IndianapolisMembers  3563WRX Points: 229Handicap: 5.5Posts: 3,563 Titanium Tees
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    Well, I knew that I would struggle between these drivers, and as a lefty, it is hard to get a hold of them to try them on the course, so I ended up buying both of them. That way, I can play a few rounds with each of them, then sell the one that suits me the least. I have Callaway hotmelting the head for me, so the sound will be less irritating and more muted.
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    Cobra SZ Tour Length 9.0 with Ventus Black 60 stiff shaft
    Callaway Mavrik SZ 13.5 degree with GD Tour AD VR 75 stiff
    Callaway Super Hybrid 17 degree with Tensei Pro Orange 80 stiff shaft
    Callaway Super Hybrid 23 degree with Tensei Pro Orange 80 stiff shaft
    TM P790 5-P with Fujikura Pro 95i shaft stiff tour spec
    Ping Glide 2.0 raw 50 and 54 degree wedge 
    PM19 60 degree raw wedge
    TM Spider X Navy Blue 35 inch with white racing stripe
  • DanFrostDanFrost Members  2WRX Points: 10Posts: 2 Starters
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    I tried them both Saturday, ultimately went with the SZ. I wasn't getting the jump in ball speed vs my current driver (Fly-Z+) with the F9 but was with the SZ.
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  • Krt22Krt22 East BayMembers  9375WRX Points: 3,009Posts: 9,375 Titanium Tees
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    I was fit into the standard EF...the spin difference between the two heads is much smaller than it used to be but the standard EF was clearly much more forgiving. Spun less than the F9 as well. I did not try the F9 with the weights forward, so I had to get one on order anyway since they are so cheap lol
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  • cjyner97cjyner97 Members  108WRX Points: 23Handicap: 5Posts: 108 Fairways
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    I really like both of them. However, I am surprised to say that I actually prefer the cobra driver this year.
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    Cobra Speedzone 3 wood w/ Ventus VeloCore red
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    Mizzy MP20 HMB (4/5) MP20 (6-PW) PX LZ 
    Taylormade MG2 50, 54, 58 Modus wedge black
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  • csufmancsufman CaliforniaMembers  203WRX Points: 54Handicap: 14Posts: 203 Fairways
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    Mob wrote:
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    Well, I knew that I would struggle between these drivers, and as a lefty, it is hard to get a hold of them to try them on the course, so I ended up buying both of them. That way, I can play a few rounds with each of them, then sell the one that suits me the least. I have Callaway hotmelting the head for me, so the sound will be less irritating and more muted.<br />
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    As a fellow lefty if you decide to part ways with your F9 let me know...😉
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  • MobMob Just Another Lefty IndianapolisMembers  3563WRX Points: 229Handicap: 5.5Posts: 3,563 Titanium Tees
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    I am pulling for the Cobra to win out, but we will see. While I hate to buy 2 drivers, I did get the additional 50% loyalty trade-in bonus for my Epic driver, so it wasn't quite as offensive. This way, I can get them both out on the course, and see which really performs better for me in actual course conditions, rather than just on a range or monitor.<br />
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    I believe we get so caught up in launch monitor numbers, that we forget how much more important hitting fairways is, at least for us weekend golfers. If I am hitting fairways, I have a much more enjoyable round and score better. Being 5-10 yards longer, but in the rough or behind a tree, makes for long day. Testing drivers on the course while playing actual rounds, drives this point home for me. I won my club championship (1st flight, not Championship flight) this past year, hitting a driver that typically spins around 3000 rpms and is 10 yards shorter than some of my other drivers, but tends to find the fairway more often.
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    Cobra SZ Tour Length 9.0 with Ventus Black 60 stiff shaft
    Callaway Mavrik SZ 13.5 degree with GD Tour AD VR 75 stiff
    Callaway Super Hybrid 17 degree with Tensei Pro Orange 80 stiff shaft
    Callaway Super Hybrid 23 degree with Tensei Pro Orange 80 stiff shaft
    TM P790 5-P with Fujikura Pro 95i shaft stiff tour spec
    Ping Glide 2.0 raw 50 and 54 degree wedge 
    PM19 60 degree raw wedge
    TM Spider X Navy Blue 35 inch with white racing stripe
  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user FloridaMembers  7136WRX Points: 1,371Handicap: 3.9-9.3-7.7 (Health issue)Posts: 7,136 Titanium Tees
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    Mob wrote:
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    I am pulling for the Cobra to win out, but we will see. While I hate to buy 2 drivers, I did get the additional 50% loyalty trade-in bonus for my Epic driver, so it wasn't quite as offensive. This way, I can get them both out on the course, and see which really performs better for me in actual course conditions, rather than just on a range or monitor.<br />
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    Talk about damning with faint praise. <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /><br />
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    So, about 120 + 50% = 180, for a driver that cost $500 2 years ago. OY. Worse than a new car. <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/russian_roulette.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':russian_roulette:' />
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  • MobMob Just Another Lefty IndianapolisMembers  3563WRX Points: 229Handicap: 5.5Posts: 3,563 Titanium Tees
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    nsxguy wrote:
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    Mob wrote:
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    I am pulling for the Cobra to win out, but we will see. While I hate to buy 2 drivers, I did get the additional 50% loyalty trade-in bonus for my Epic driver, so it wasn't quite as offensive. This way, I can get them both out on the course, and see which really performs better for me in actual course conditions, rather than just on a range or monitor.<br />
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    Talk about damning with faint praise. <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /><br />
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    So, about 120 + 50% = 180, for a driver that cost $500 2 years ago. OY. Worse than a new car. <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/russian_roulette.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':russian_roulette:' /><br />
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    Yes, that's a fair statement.
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    Cobra SZ Tour Length 9.0 with Ventus Black 60 stiff shaft
    Callaway Mavrik SZ 13.5 degree with GD Tour AD VR 75 stiff
    Callaway Super Hybrid 17 degree with Tensei Pro Orange 80 stiff shaft
    Callaway Super Hybrid 23 degree with Tensei Pro Orange 80 stiff shaft
    TM P790 5-P with Fujikura Pro 95i shaft stiff tour spec
    Ping Glide 2.0 raw 50 and 54 degree wedge 
    PM19 60 degree raw wedge
    TM Spider X Navy Blue 35 inch with white racing stripe
  • playaplaya Members  8756WRX Points: 282Posts: 8,756 Titanium Tees
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    44.5 stock length with great dispersion? Sounds like I have finally found a new driver I could be interested in. Will take the f9 for a hit next time I'm in the shop.
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  • KevinnzKevinnz Members  393WRX Points: 97Posts: 393 Greens
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    Its not that hard to decide. Buy both and set up with identical shafts and hit them on the range with a monitor, the one that consistently performs out for you over 3 weeks is the right fit.<br />
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    I went for a rogue sz briefly last year after everyone says how much better it is, could not get it to work for me so i sold it and moved on to a tour issue M4 for $250. Does the m4 go further than my retail m2? Probably not, but with the open club face and lower native loft (8.6) my distance is more consistent and dispersions are much tighter.<br />
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    Seriously I dont see how new drivers can just outperform last years with so called latest technology. Dont think spending $500 is worth the investment performance wise. Save the $200 to spend on a better shaft or range balls or a personal trainer/gym will probably gain you more distance or tighter dispersions than the “new head”.
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  • BenSeattleBenSeattle Members  545WRX Points: 112Posts: 545 Golden Tee
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    Stanks wrote:
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    Great thoughts on the drivers. The Cobra, I think, it easily the big stick of the releases so far. I must say, for the price, it's amazing. Stock shaft options are not bad either.<br />
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    M6 is getting a bit of a bad rap but, no one seems to be putting any real effort into trying them. Most pros are going M5 (obviously) for the adjustability and lower spin but, if you put a good Tensei Pro, Evenflow White (mine), or AD shaft on it, you'll get a good low spin controllable driver.<br />
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    I won't say Epic missed the mark but, I'm not seeing the same craze and daze that original Epic had. It's like a bad Jim Carrey sequel. Hit's the desires but, no real wow factor.<br />
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    For what it's worth, Dustin Johnson switched from the M5 to the M6 and used it to win this past week in Saudi Arabia.
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