Is Francesco Molinari done?

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Lennon MccartneyLennon Mccartney  394WRX Points: 26Members Posts: 394 Bunkers
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As a great fan of Italian golf, I worry that Francesco will now fall down the same path so many have after a brutal collapse/choke against Tiger...The water balls on 12 and 15 remind me of Greg Norman in 96...it is truly difficult to ever bounce back in a major again after this.. i could see him doing well in regular tour stops like Wentworth or exhibition/charity events like the Ryder cup....but I feel as though Francesco's intimidation factor is now gone and the "francesco effect" is no longer alive...i only bring this up because there are not many great Italian golfers to root for ...As an Italian-American i was rooting for Francesco to pull it out on Sunday...Faldo's career was never the same after Tiger showed him what the future of golf would look like in 97' and I fear Francesco will go down the same path...#TDO

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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJ 8088WRX Points: 1,342Handicap: +1.6 (1194646)Members Posts: 8,088 Titanium Tees
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    this thread can't be serious. no, he's not done. out of the entirety of the tournament, he took (imo) one bad swing; on 12.

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  • KillerPenguinKillerPenguin  591WRX Points: 139Members Posts: 591 Golden Tee
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    Beatle (see what I did there?), I don't think you have any reason to worry. Francesco's already had the opportunity to go toe to toe with Tiger and win. Will he be as dominant as Tiger was from 2000-2004, no, but no one will ever be like that. No one who follows golf would be surprised if he picked up a major this year, and I don't think he's prone to dumb mistakes like Norman. He's also way more talented than Faldo (I see Faldo as kinda the inverse of John Daly - he made the absolute most of his talent), and I'm sure he'll be back in the major winner's circle in the next 24 months.

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  • dropkickeddropkicked Toronto 543WRX Points: 462Members Posts: 543 Golden Tee
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    Scar tissue, in golf is a real thing and it builds as time goes on... I like franky, as I've got a lot of Pisan's who are lifelong friends, some family.. But he just gained some this weekend.. but I only think it will affect his game when he pairs with Tiger. Those thoughts will haunt Franky, for many years.

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    Now that we've had the "what's wrong with X" post about a world class player, he's guaranteed to bounce back from his two bad holes (sheesh). Wondering when we were going to get this post.

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  • dmac4gdmac4g  1329WRX Points: 213Members Posts: 1,329 Platinum Tees
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    Done with breakfast.......maybe. Done as a world class player, not so much.

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    He'll be fine, but I don't think there was ever really a francesco effect.

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    Why do people jump on a pro for literally ONE bad tourney/round/swing. 12 is a much harder hole than people give credit to and he also had to go first. If anything I'd say Finau could be more affected by #12 going forward than Franceso.

    He is absolutely not done winning. His swing is incredibly repeatable and his putting has improved dramatically. Just a blip that he will overcome.

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    On -, @gioguy21 said:

    this thread can't be serious. no, he's not done. out of the entirety of the tournament, he took (imo) one bad swing; on 12.

    To be fair. Many said spieth was done with the same bad swing on 12. Some are still saying it in another threAd.

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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky  2482WRX Points: 855Members Posts: 2,482 Platinum Tees
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    Guess anyone who has a let down these days are considered done.

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  • NJpatbeeNJpatbee Ocean County, NJ 1586WRX Points: 178Handicap: 15.9Members Posts: 1,586 Platinum Tees
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    Francesco will be fine although I do believe playing the back 9 on Sunday at Augusta was the prime factor in his unforced errors. Tiger played a smarter back 9 but I doubt Fancesco was or is now intimidated by him. That being said, Tiger from 1997 to 2008 would intimidate any golfer.

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    Yup, sure enough Molinari will no longer be able to break par, and may very well end up in a permanent fetal position. He's been destroyed as golfer and human being.

    I suspect he will be just fine.

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    OP - he's a real nowhere man!

    That's a Beatles joke, btw. Why the wringing of hands? The guy is an incredible talent, just don't see where this is coming from.

    Ya know it's gonna be ........ alright!

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  • ray9898ray9898  861WRX Points: 271Members Posts: 861 Golden Tee
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    I don't know when this trend started on here. Everytime something happens you get a "is _______ done" thread.

    He is the world #7 and reigning champ at The Open....give it a rest.

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    On -, @bladehunter said:

    On -, @gioguy21 said:

    this thread can't be serious. no, he's not done. out of the entirety of the tournament, he took (imo) one bad swing; on 12.

    To be fair. Many said spieth was done with the same bad swing on 12. Some are still saying it in another threAd.

    to be fair-erer...lol molinari isn't a mental case and his game hasn't fallen apart. the man is a robot. talking 2 VERY different people both in games and their mental approaches/personalities.

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    On -, @Lennon Mccartney said:

    As a great fan of Italian golf, I worry that Francesco will now fall down the same path so many have after a brutal collapse/choke against Tiger...The water balls on 12 and 15 remind me of Greg Norman in 96...it is truly difficult to ever bounce back in a major again after this.. i could see him doing well in regular tour stops like Wentworth or exhibition/charity events like the Ryder cup....but I feel as though Francesco's intimidation factor is now gone and the "francesco effect" is no longer alive...i only bring this up because there are not many great Italian golfers to root for ...As an Italian-American i was rooting for Francesco to pull it out on Sunday...Faldo's career was never the same after Tiger showed him what the future of golf would look like in 97' and I fear Francesco will go down the same path...#TDO

    molinari had an "intimidation factor" ? ... seriously?

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    I can picture it now. The OP is at home listening to the Beatles wearing giant headphones sitting near a picture of a bra-less Yoko Ono, yelling to his significant other.

    OP: "Hon, Hon - I'm concerned about Francesco."
    OPSO "Who is that, the guy down the street who drives the Fiat?"
    OP: "No, the guy who went in the water."
    OPSO: "The guy from our swimming club?"
    OP: "From the Masters!"
    OPSO: "No worries, he'll bounce back."

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    He will fade away in 2 years - players like him have streaks and vanish. Remember Graeme McDowell? Yeah that's another similar player. Only the likes of Rory, Koepka, Spieth will be around contending for the next 10 years.

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    he's already overachieved through very hard work...he came through the ranks and knows..this is just golf. Tiger winning might actually make him feel fine with it. he beat Tiger last year head to head and won the Open. If Cantlay or someone had won... he would probably by heading to Bologna, drive to San Luca and skydive down...with his umbrella

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  • puttingmattputtingmatt puttingmatt Summer/ Michigan-- Winter/ Florida 5392WRX Points: 475Handicap: 4Members Posts: 5,392 Titanium Tees
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    What a bunch of nonsense , Molinari is to good
    to write off.

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    He has a really strong group of people around him, Dave Alred may not be very well known in golf but, but he is top performance/mental coach.

    12 and 15 were more mistakes rather than bad swings.

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    Dude is the defending Open Champion. He'll be fine for quite a while, I think.

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    No, Molinari is just getting going. Pars on 12 and 15 would likely have won a green jacket. He's got more tournament wins to go.

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    I think he will be ok as he was in the same boat with a lot of other great players who faltered...

    That being said pretty much all players have a shelf life and a window where their game is hot enough to win multiple times let alone multiple majors.

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    I was actually impressed with how he scratched out the score he did in the final round. Molinari clearly didn't have anything near his "A" game that day, and the fact that that he still had the lead going into the 12th is a testament to how solid he's become. I'll be shocked in Molinari doesn't get one more major before he is done.

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    OP....please do not start another thread....(for 3 years)

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    Post 1- LOL no he is not done
    Post 5-LOL no he is not way more talented than was Faldo.

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    His career-long strength has been consistent, accurate ball striking. One bad swing on 12 and one unfortunate pine cone on 15 are not going to make him lose faith in a skill that he has mastered. Now if his putting (which had been a weakness he has relatively recently improved markedly) had failed him, I could see him wondering in the back of his head whether it will fail him again. He doesn't seem like the type to perseverate over it to the point that he builds it up in his mind to be much more than it is and loses his competitive mental edge.

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