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I missed the part when Rickie's caddy gave him the chicken leg .... He took a bite and got the bone stuck in his throat.

 

I'm a Rickie fan but the dude is cementing his legacy of being an Epic Choker.

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This tournament isn’t over yet but I think we can all agree that Folwer has handled this with a ton of class.

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Maybe people can see why many of us appreciate tigers ludicrously great ability to win with a Saturday lead...

 

It was something unseen maybe ever...

 

-Chris

 

I've always believed that going into the last day with a lead makes winning all the more difficult and doing it having lead for two or more rounds makes it impossible.

 

Those in this position who fail to go on and win often get called chokers. I have always thought that this is grossly unfair, for the reasons stated above.

 

Those that do go on to win, all the more credit to them.

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That's a dumb rule. That shouldn't be applicable following a penalty where you have to drop.

 

Good Lord, not dumb and no reason to have an exception - the whole point is his ball went from in play and into a hazard, period, let's not start with the "it wasn't his fault stuff".

 

Ruling correct, move on.

 

Well it is a bit brutal if your relief area happens to be a spot like that where the ball will come to rest but then roll back in the water.

 

So it has nothing to do with him making a shot. What's he supposed to do, make sure he hits it fast enough before it rolls in the water? Seems a little bush league.

 

I'm not saying the wrong ruling was made. I'm saying this is a specific incident where the rules are a little too penalizing.

 

No different than hitting your shot there in the first place, it comes to rest and as you are walking over to hit your next shot it rolls in. Just part of the vagaries of conditions on the course, same if the wind comes up - bad break. Blows your ball to a much better lie or even in the hole, great break. Hit your ball in a tree, and as you are walking it falls out, you don't put it back.

 

But specifically after a penalty drop/place? It's an area in the rules where we could see changes. Just like the rules regarding the ball moving on the green were changed. Because the rules aren't perfect and sometimes what would be the most fair and what gets ruled, are two different things.

 

The tee box is given special rules. The putting green has special rules. There could be special rules for a relief area.

 

If Rickie goes on to lose by 1 shot, one could say it was because his ball rolled back in the water when he was 15 yards away. That's not golf. I'd rather see guys win or lose on the merits of their golf shots. Not getting good or bad flukey [rule] breaks.

 

Um no. Ball is in play on the course, it's not in the hazard and not in some "relief area", it's in play on the course. Taking prior relief has nothing to do with it at all. Again, ball comes to rest any other time and then off it goes, good breaks, bad breaks. No difference. You are creating a difference that doesn't really exist.

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it doesn’t really matter if it’s a good rule or bad rule. This is the tour’s worst nightmare. A major controversy over a ruling impacting the leader on sunday. This just after the tour rescinds a penalty for another player.

 

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Will say a lot if Rickie comes back and wins this.

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it doesn’t really matter if it’s a good rule or bad rule. This is the tour’s worst nightmare. A major controversy over a ruling impacting the leader on sunday. This just after the tour rescinds a penalty for another player.

 

Worst. Case. Scenario. For the USGA and PGA Tour

 

Well, Davis can use it in his favor

 

"If we had rolled back the ball , Fowler's chip never goes in the water!"

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Kevcarter!

 

Where you at?

 

Makin super bowl chilli?

 

We need your rules expertise ; )

 

lol

 

After the Lexi "scandal" a couple of years ago, I stopped posting about rules controversies. I've finally gotten off the blood pressure medication and can start reading the threads again.

 

:D :lol: :D

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Haven’t watched a min of coverage yet but looking at how leaderboard is setting up, I will likely watch all of the Sunday coverage. The top 6 are proven winners who can rally and make a lot of birds. Rickie isn’t exactly secure with leads but I do hope he closes

 

Uh oh...

Had a feeling about this one. A Phoenix open is a nice win...sad if he loses this to grace




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