New Mizuno irons coming - Tour Proto Pics

[Lefty_13]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @starsail85 said:

> > I generally don’t look on many iron threads on here , because I know that mizuno make the best irons and wedges by a considerable margin. But are other iron threads disintegrated by moaning lefties and shaft ho’s?

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> Pretty much. I feel for lefties, They are like hero side kicks.

 

Agreed but you won't see me complaining about this release. The historical alternative with Mizuno is me being sick to my stomach looking at the MP20 and knowing I wouldn't ever get my hands on it. Sign me up for the SEL.

[Titletown]

damn WRX loves them some new Mizuno irons

[Titletown]

> @cpeck said:

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i can't be the only one who doesn't like the copper finish, right?

[Becon]

They look good, not great. A great relief to my wallet because I can now get a used Mp-18 combo set without buyer's remorse.

[geesecougar2]

At the risk of sounding like a *****, the fact that it's only the lefties complaining is a great sign!

[cpeck]

> @Titletown said:

> > @cpeck said:

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> i can't be the only one who doesn't like the copper finish, right?

 

 

i think that was just to show everyone what’s underneath. i read it’s going to be a satin polished finish however that works.

 

[thigos]

> @Titletown said:

> > @cpeck said:

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> i can't be the only one who doesn't like the copper finish, right?

 

I think that is just a marketing piece to show the copper layer and create buzz. The clubs people buy wont look like that. Mizuno even replies that they are blue-balling us :D Looks badass to me

[hwwong]

> @starsail85 said:

> I generally don’t look on many iron threads on here , because I know that mizuno make the best irons and wedges by a considerable margin. But are other iron threads disintegrated by moaning lefties and shaft ho’s?

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Glad someone else feels the same way. If there was money to be made in developing more clubs for LH players Mizuno would be doing it!

You guys got a SPECIAL EDITION!! Be thankful and let's get back to the discussion at hand.

 

 

[QuigleyDU]

 

Anyone remember these?? These were only made in lefty...

[cpeck]

yup, had a set. prob should have kept them. was my first journey to a blade during my first year of golf.

> @QuigleyDU said:

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> Anyone remember these?? These were only made in lefty...

 

 

[cane700]

Lefties get an MP muscleback again! I'm good with that.

[BottleCap]

> @geesecougar2 said:

> At the risk of sounding like a ****, the fact that it's only the lefties complaining is a great sign!

 

They gave the lefties the perfect set, driving irons for the long irons and blades for the rest of the set. How can they complain? You can't put together a better set.

[MKPAPA]

> @Tdsjfb said:

> > @MKPAPA said:

> > > @Tdsjfb said:

> > > Any sense as to head differences between the MP-18 Blade vs. the MP-20 Blade?

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> > New Camber design = more butter knifey. win

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> As opposed to tear drop? LOL As compared to the MP-18, the head appears to be longer with the toe weighting pulling

> the sweet spot away from the hosel.

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Sole camber I meant sole camber. And to me, they appear to be the same length with a little toe side taper

[sethdavidsdad]

I'm usually a blade guy, but those HMB's have caught my eye. Can't wait to try them all and see if I need to get rid of my MP18

[jetmech879]

> @BottleCap said:

> > @geesecougar2 said:

> > At the risk of sounding like a ****, the fact that it's only the lefties complaining is a great sign!

>

> They gave the lefties the perfect set, driving irons for the long irons and blades for the rest of the set. How can they complain? You can't put together a better set.

 

That's what I was thinking! That is basically the same set I'm looking at ordering as a righty.

[third-times-a-charm]

So HMB = HM, CMB = HMP, and regular MP20 = 919 Tour?

 

...but in a much shinier package?

[Stanks]

> @third-times-a-charm said:

> So HMB = HM, CMB = HMP, and regular MP20 = 919 Tour?

>

> ...but in a much shinier package?

 

What were you expecting?

[halfsumo]

The lefty complaints remind a lot of how internet "car guys" say that every company should offer a car with a manual transmission and that they would sell so many more cars if offered in manual. Then car companies offer a manual and nobody buys it.

[Konklifer]

> @starsail85 said:

> I generally don’t look on many iron threads on here , because I know that mizuno make the best irons and wedges by a considerable margin. But are other iron threads disintegrated by moaning lefties and shaft ho’s?

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You should look at other iron threads.

[QuigleyDU]

> @Konklifer said:

> > @starsail85 said:

> > I generally don’t look on many iron threads on here , because I know that mizuno make the best irons and wedges by a considerable margin. But are other iron threads disintegrated by moaning lefties and shaft ho’s?

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> You should look at other iron threads.

 

Lefty complaints are typically confined to the players irons/blade discussions.

[ASN21]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @Konklifer said:

> > > @starsail85 said:

> > > I generally don’t look on many iron threads on here , because I know that mizuno make the best irons and wedges by a considerable margin. But are other iron threads disintegrated by moaning lefties and shaft ho’s?

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> > You should look at other iron threads.

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> Lefty complaints are typically confined to the players irons/blade discussions.

 

And Scotty Cameron putters :D

[Foreleft]

Here is an explanation of the left-handed thing from Mizuno perspective. Its on their European forum.

 

_Just wrote another apology / explanation to a left hander. Thought it might be a good idea to write something we could point to that sits in a public place.

 

Everyone at Mizuno would love to offer every iron model in leftie. Unfortunately there aren't enough left hand golfers (just 5 -10% of all players) to spread across 6 models. So we offer 3 of those 6 models in left handed. Last year we chose MP-18 SC as our leftie offering - a very similar player segment to the 919 Tour, hence the reason for offering the 919 Forged and 919 Hot Metal in leftie this time.

 

The MP-18 SC picked up just about every award by the golfing media as the 'players iron' of 2018 - so hopefully that was a good choice.

 

The leftie situation gets even tougher at the low hcp end of the player spectrum. We have 2 challenges - firstly less than 30% of regular golfers play off a single digit hcp (taking that particular leftie group down to a max of 3% of the golfing population). Secondly the Mizuno #grainflowforged process is vastly more expensive to set up than other manufacturers cast process. There's a minimum number of sets we'd need to produce / distribute to meet a similar cost / price as the right handed option.

 

Gives us 3 options.

1. To sell the left handed players models at a much higher price (which is clearly unfair).

2. Attempt to select an offering to cover most golfing needs (MP-18 SC, JPX919 Forged, JPX919 Hot Metal).

3. Raise the price of right handed irons to cover the increased production costs of offering all models left handed (we think they are already expensive enough).

 

None of these are perfect scenarios - but picking 3 models from within the 6, without an overload of low hcp offerings appears to be the most balanced approach. There’s a very good leftie (or rightie) range of irons in those 3 models.

 

Hope that at least demonstrates that we're not 'anti-leftie'. Not a scenario we're 100% happy with - as we know it's leaving some people disappointed. Constant discussion as to which models we should select as the leftie options.

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https://mizunoforum.com/threads/mizuno-irons-the-left-handed-issue.26877/

 

Probably won't help the left handed butt hurt, but at least they acknowledge the butt hurtness. :)

[QuigleyDU]

> @ASN21 said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > @Konklifer said:

> > > > @starsail85 said:

> > > > I generally don’t look on many iron threads on here , because I know that mizuno make the best irons and wedges by a considerable margin. But are other iron threads disintegrated by moaning lefties and shaft ho’s?

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > You should look at other iron threads.

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> > Lefty complaints are typically confined to the players irons/blade discussions.

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> And Scotty Cameron putters :D

 

thats because Scotty is a known rabid-anti-leftite!!

[soap1984]

I am normally a big complainer when it comes to Mizuno because they ignore lefties, but I am excited to see these in person; haven't had mizuno in the bag in a long time and am just happy there is something to be excited about.

[TinkerGolfMan]

> @Mabyboi said:

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> Just posted on Mizuno’s Facebook page!

 

My God!

[bombdrop]

> @Foreleft said:

> Here is an explanation of the left-handed thing from Mizuno perspective. Its on their European forum.

>

> _Just wrote another apology / explanation to a left hander. Thought it might be a good idea to write something we could point to that sits in a public place.

>

> Everyone at Mizuno would love to offer every iron model in leftie. Unfortunately there aren't enough left hand golfers (just 5 -10% of all players) to spread across 6 models. So we offer 3 of those 6 models in left handed. Last year we chose MP-18 SC as our leftie offering - a very similar player segment to the 919 Tour, hence the reason for offering the 919 Forged and 919 Hot Metal in leftie this time.

>

> The MP-18 SC picked up just about every award by the golfing media as the 'players iron' of 2018 - so hopefully that was a good choice.

>

> The leftie situation gets even tougher at the low hcp end of the player spectrum. We have 2 challenges - firstly less than 30% of regular golfers play off a single digit hcp (taking that particular leftie group down to a max of 3% of the golfing population). Secondly the Mizuno #grainflowforged process is vastly more expensive to set up than other manufacturers cast process. There's a minimum number of sets we'd need to produce / distribute to meet a similar cost / price as the right handed option.

>

> Gives us 3 options.

> 1. To sell the left handed players models at a much higher price (which is clearly unfair).

> 2. Attempt to select an offering to cover most golfing needs (MP-18 SC, JPX919 Forged, JPX919 Hot Metal).

> 3. Raise the price of right handed irons to cover the increased production costs of offering all models left handed (we think they are already expensive enough).

>

> None of these are perfect scenarios - but picking 3 models from within the 6, without an overload of low hcp offerings appears to be the most balanced approach. There’s a very good leftie (or rightie) range of irons in those 3 models.

>

> Hope that at least demonstrates that we're not 'anti-leftie'. Not a scenario we're 100% happy with - as we know it's leaving some people disappointed. Constant discussion as to which models we should select as the leftie options.

> _

> https://mizunoforum.com/threads/mizuno-irons-the-left-handed-issue.26877/

>

> Probably won't help the left handed butt hurt, but at least they acknowledge the butt hurtness. :)

 

> @BottleCap said:

> > @geesecougar2 said:

> > At the risk of sounding like a ****, the fact that it's only the lefties complaining is a great sign!

>

> They gave the lefties the perfect set, driving irons for the long irons and blades for the rest of the set. How can they complain? You can't put together a better set.

 

Chris Wood just had his set built. 4-5 MMC rest is muscle back. LOL 5 iron cavity back, what an amateur ball striker. Didn't he look at Mizuno's extensive data research?

[BostonWRX]

https://twitter.com/FM00RE/status/1151458298094346240

[third-times-a-charm]

> @Stanks said:

> > @third-times-a-charm said:

> > So HMB = HM, CMB = HMP, and regular MP20 = 919 Tour?

> >

> > ...but in a much shinier package?

>

> What were you expecting?

 

LOL not really sure what I was expecting - just confirming the 'forgiveness' of the set, I guess.

 

it seems the HMB is kind of like an SGI

[ASN21]

> @third-times-a-charm said:

> > @Stanks said:

> > > @third-times-a-charm said:

> > > So HMB = HM, CMB = HMP, and regular MP20 = 919 Tour?

> > >

> > > ...but in a much shinier package?

> >

> > What were you expecting?

>

> LOL not really sure what I was expecting - just confirming the 'forgiveness' of the set, I guess.

>

> it seems the HMB is kind of like an SGI

 

HMB isn't remotely close to an SGI.

[hwwong]

> @PatsNation said:

> https://twitter.com/FM00RE/status/1151458298094346240

 

Alrighty then. 7-P MP 20, 3-6 MMC, and a 1 iron HMB.