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> @MillerLowLife said:

> Gotta say, I've been playing the full set of MP18 MB's this past year and I've been wanting more height out of my 4/5 irons.... if that's what you should be thinking about when choosing HMB/MMC I would probably go the HMB route. Especially after how that address picture looks.

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> EDIT: Also, I asked golfnation for a PW address pic but got the 7i instead.

 

I’m in the same boat. I’m 95% keeping all my MP-18s but looking to upgrade the 4-5 iron. These HMBs have me really excited.

 

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> @"Thats two thus far Shooter" said:

> > @MillerLowLife said:

> > Gotta say, I've been playing the full set of MP18 MB's this past year and I've been wanting more height out of my 4/5 irons.... if that's what you should be thinking about when choosing HMB/MMC I would probably go the HMB route. Especially after how that address picture looks.

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> > EDIT: Also, I asked golfnation for a PW address pic but got the 7i instead.

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> I’m in the same boat. I’m 95% keeping all my MP-18s but looking to upgrade the 4-5 iron. These HMBs have me really excited.

>

 

Right? Ideally, I would love to buy a full new set but that may not happen. At the very least, could pick up the HMB low irons to build out my bag better. I absolutely love my MB 18's and feel they are super soft, not quite mp5 soft but soft. So i'm interested to see how these compare.

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> > @ASN21 said:

> > > @jjl said:

> > > 9t6hzlhjmmog.jpg

> > > HMB AT at address.

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> > Holy moley that looks great

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> Isnt that the MB?

 

Yes just called SEL for y'all leftys.

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-Mizuno STz 230 hybrid 16* set at 15* Ventus Blue 8X

-Mizuno STz 230 hybrid 19* Ventus Blue 9X

-Mizuno JPX 923 Forged4&5, Tour 6-PW Project X LS 6.5
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> @MKPAPA said:

> I'm 99.9% set on a 7-piece combo hmb / mb .

 

Me, too. Off beat question, but will Mizuno custom place ProSofts in the iron shafts?

 

 

Driver: Ping G430 Max (10.5) - Ventus (Velocore) Blue 5S
3 Wood: Ping G425 Max (14.5 Degree) - Ventus (Velocore) Red 5S
5 Wood: Ping G425 Max (17.5 Degree) - CB Alta 65S
9 Wood: Ping G430 Max (23 Degree) - CB Alta Black 65S 

5 Hybrid: Ping G425 (26 Degree) - CB Alta 70S

Titleist T150 8-PW KBS $ Taper (115)  

Titleist T200 6/7 KBS $ Taper (115)

Vokey (49/53) Degree) SM8 F Grind - KBS Tour (120)
Vokey (58 Degree) SM7 S Grind - KBS Tour (120)
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> @golfinguru11 said:

> Does anyone know the reasoning behind why the bounce numbers are so low? Apparently that’s a Mizuno thing that I never realized.

 

I would be curious about the answer, myself. I've heard the Luke Donald sole is a bit funky in it's shaping such that even though the listed bounce is low, in reality the design is still effective at not overly digging. Don't quote me, though.

 

For what it's worth, I don't find it to be an issue on my MP-4s. I'm not a digger--my angle of attack tends to range between -2 degrees and -5 degrees. My MP-4s are bent 2 degrees strong, such that the listed bounce on my irons is as follows:

* 4i-5i = 0 degrees

* 6i-7i = 1 degrees

* 8i = 2 degrees

* 9i = 3 degrees

* PW = 4 degrees

 

In other words, the bounce on my MP-4s is the same as the bounce on the MP-20s. In practice, on turf, what I find is that I take easier divots with my MP-4s, with more of a traditional strip without really trying, whereas with other irons in the past I would more typically skim the turf or brush the grass. I also very rarely find the leading edge or sole getting in the way of my swing.

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So is the HMB replacing, or at least serving the same function as the MP18 MMC Fli-Hi's? I play a Fli-Hi 4 iron and would certainly snag a HMB if it's going to play the same (or better).

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Callaway Paradym Super Hybrid 2H - Steelfiber FC 75 HY
Callaway Apex Pro 3H - Steelfiber FC 75 HY

Callaway X-Forged UT 23* - Steelfiber HLS 880
Mizuno Pro 243 5i-PW - Dynamic Gold 105
Mizuno T22 48*, 54*, 58* - Dynamic Gold 105
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The HMB apparently stands for Hybrid Muscle Back, and it looks pretty good at address, at least the one pic out there.

We need some youtube reviews on these ASAP.

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TSi3 3w AD DI7
TSi3 5w AD DI7
TSR2 7w AD DI7

TSR3 24 AV Blue X-Link 75
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HMB stands for Hot Metal Blade and replaces the flihi. They will be building them from 3-PW. Good they eliminated the SC's. No difference in numbers whatsoever between them and the muscle backs. MMC looks amazing. Across the board copper underlaying which they claim increase feel. Cant place my order soon enough. Bye Titleist....

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> @mtnbiker5 said:

> HMB stands for Hot Metal Blade and replaces the flihi. They will be building them from 3-PW. Good they eliminated the SC's. No difference in numbers whatsoever between them and the muscle backs. MMC looks amazing. Across the board copper underlaying which they claim increase feel. Cant place my order soon enough. Bye Titleist....

 

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TSR4 Ventus Red
TSi3 3w AD DI7
TSi3 5w AD DI7
TSR2 7w AD DI7

TSR3 24 AV Blue X-Link 75
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Hopefully the MMC is more like the MP15 than the MP18 MMC which was too big/thick. I get it, that the in past iterations of the titanium insert irons were too close to the one piece irons in the range and they tried to create some breadth by making the MMC bigger and more forgiving, but I really liked my MP 15's (...and 58's) from a size/looks/feel standpoint.

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BRNR Mini 13.5 Kaili White 60x

TSR3 18* Ventus TR Red 7x
TSR3 24* IZ 95x
Ping Blueprint S 5-PW $-Taper 120

PING S159 50, 55, 60h 
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Here is a man who gets it. I’m hoping for the same thing. Based on published specs, I think the new mmc will probably be a cosmetic update to the mp18 rather than a return to the mp15. We can always hope though. I’m gonna wait and see before I order.

 

> @halfsumo said:

> Hopefully the MMC is more like the MP15 than the MP18 MMC which was too big/thick. I get it, that the in past iterations of the titanium insert irons were too close to the one piece irons in the range and they tried to create some breadth by making the MMC bigger and more forgiving, but I really liked my MP 15's (...and 58's) from a size/looks/feel standpoint.

 

 

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are there any pics of the HMB's in the mid to low irons? I've only seen pics of the 2-4 irons. I'm very curious to see how the full set looks.

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