Kevin Na vs WRX

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  • ssfrannyssfranny Lefty Boomers  3072WRX Points: 328Posts: 3,072 Titanium Tees
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    Unless youre a 5 handi or better who can hit a 7 iron blade 160 yards or more you’d be an idiot to play blades. IMHO

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  • ssfrannyssfranny Lefty Boomers  3072WRX Points: 328Posts: 3,072 Titanium Tees
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  • kiwihackerkiwihacker Members  768WRX Points: 184Posts: 768 Golden Tee
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    I don't get the debate. When I thin a cavity back it goes about as far as a thinned blade. When I chunk a cavity back it goes about as far as a chunked blade ( nowhere). The idea that one makes up for a less than perfect swing is pretty silly really. It's off the tee, chipping and putting that really affect my scores. Iron play cavity back vs blade = very little difference in score. One just might leave you with a slightly longer chip shot. ;)

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    17° Callaway X Hot 4 wood
    20.5°& 23° Cleveland DST Launcher hybrids
    Taylormade R7 TP 4-PW irons
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  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub Members  3512WRX Points: 1,579Handicap: 1.7Posts: 3,512 Titanium Tees
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    You play what works, end of story. If Tiger switched to cavity backs and his strokes gained stat fell, then everyone would say he should switch back to his blades. No one on this board, or Kevin Na for that matter, knows more about the games of the big names on tour that play blades than they do.

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    Titleist 915FD 15* Kuro Kage 80XTS || Taylormade RSI UDI 16* Fujikura Motore Speeder HB 9.8 Tour-Spec X
    Titleist 915FD 18* Kuro Kage 90XTS || Titleist 818H1 18.25* Diamana Kai'li s103x Prototype 
    Callaway X-Forged UT 20* Kuro Kage XT 100TX Hybrid
    Callaway X-Forged UT 23* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Bridgestone J40 DPC 5i-7i 27*- 35* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
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    Vokey Mild Raw 8620 54* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Vokey SM6 58* Oil Can Low Bounce K-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Vokey Special 61* Black Oxide V-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
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  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Minnesota, USAMembers  7290WRX Points: 1,355Handicap: 7Posts: 7,290 Titanium Tees
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    What makes it ironic, to me at least, is that for a fair number of blades and players CBs, there really isn't much difference. MOI is the measure of resistance to twisting, which is the point of perimeter weighting. When you look at the MOI numbers for some sets, it's not that stark. In some cases, it's negligible.

    Srixon 700 series vs 900 series are a good example. Difference between 765 and 965 is about 120 pts. Personally, I don't find that significant, it's about 5%. The MP-63 might be a better example, was a thread here on WRX about them recently. MOI of the 63's is almost identical to that of the MP-4, MP-5, MP-18, etc.

    Different story when looking at Ping G series irons in comparison, especially the G400 and forward.

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    Driver: Orlimar persimmon, Dynamic S, 43.5"
    3w:  Orlimar persimmon, Dynamic S, 42.5"
    2i:  Mizuno Pro, DGS300
    3-PW:  Mizuno MP-37, DGS300
    GW:  Dynacraft forged 52*, DGS400
    SW:  Wilson Staff PMP 58*
    Putter: Cleveland Huntington Beach #1 35"
    Balls: in no particular order... Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Professional, or 50 Elite, Srixon ZStar, Snell MTB Black, Vice Pro Lime... will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time

    Sometimes carry 1-SW Golden Ram Tour Grinds w/Dynamic S or 1-SW Golden Ram TW282, Precision 6.5
    On occasion, Ram 1i or Mizuno 2i replaced with Orlimar persimmon 4w, Dynamic S

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  • Redjeep83Redjeep83 Members  5981WRX Points: 577Posts: 5,981 Titanium Tees
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    It’s only the longer clubs where you really get penalized with blades, need decent swing speed. 6 and up doesn’t matter as much and is just a matter of getting use to. If you play cb irons for years and switch to blades, it’s going to look too small and vice versa.

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  • diablocrusherdiablocrusher Members  196WRX Points: 103Handicap: 6.5Posts: 196 Fairways
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    We're locking threads now about blade irons? Geez, what happened to this place.

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    Driver - Cobra King F6
    3 wood - Cobra F8
    Hybrid - Callaway XR Pro
    Irons 3-PW - Mizuno MP54
    Wedges - Vokey SM6 50, 54, 58
    Putter - Yes! Callie
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  • Bad9Bad9 Members  4807WRX Points: 647Handicap: 9.2Posts: 4,807 Titanium Tees
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    The locking of threads about blade irons is not a new development.

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    Ping G400 7w/Alta CB r flex
    Ping G400 4h/Xcaliber r flex
    Ping G400 5h/Xcaliber r flex
    Ping G400 6-U/Xcaliber r flex
    Ping Glide 2.0 ES 58°/Xcaliber r flex
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  • nitramnitram WestOK, on the South Canadian Riviera Members  5776WRX Points: 451Handicap: -.6Posts: 5,776 Titanium Tees
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    "My dog's better than your dog..."

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    Exotics CBX 119 13.5* & 18* Accra TourZ 382 M5
    Exotics CBX 22* Accra TZ5-95H M5
    PING S55 5-P Mitsubishi MMT-125TX
    Chikara V1 Proto 52, 57, 60 Mitsubishi MMT-125 TX (9-iron)
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  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX  2967WRX Points: 475Handicap: 7.6Posts: 2,967 ClubWRX
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    Not the point. Gives more pop across the face than a blade. He can lose less distance with a mishit. And we don’t know how his set is lofted.

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    Ping G30 SFT driver, 10 degree, Oban Kiyoshi HB 75 stiff
    Cobra F9 Speedback, 14.5 degree, Fujikura Atmos Blue 7S
    Callaway Epic Flash, 17 degree, HzRDUS Smoke 70 stiff
    Callaway Rogue, 21 degree, Diamana BF 80 stiff
    TaylorMade GAPR Hi 24, KBS TGI 80 stiff

    Srixon z765 (5-7(, z965 (8-P) Fujikura 95i TS stiff
    Callaway MD4 50 S grind, 54 W grind
    Ben Hogan Ft. Worth TK 58
    Odyssey Stroke Lab V-Line putter w/Pure grip
  • mahoniemahonie EnglandMembers  2956WRX Points: 573Handicap: 11Posts: 2,956 Titanium Tees
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    On October 1, 2011, Na apparently whiffed his tee shot on the par-4 15th hole in the third round of the Justin Timberlake Shriners Hospitals for Children Open at TPC Summerlin in Las Vegas, missing high and to the outside of the ball...just sayin’.

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    Callaway XR Speed 3W Project X HZRDUS T800 65 Stiff
    Wilson Staff FG Tour M3 21* Hybrid Aldila RIP Stiff
    Cobra King CB/MB Flow 4-6, 7-PW C-Taper Stiff
    Wilson Staff PMP wedges 50/54/58 KBS Hi-Rev 2.0
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  • third-times-a-charmthird-times-a-charm Members  3031WRX Points: 1,282Posts: 3,031 Titanium Tees
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    blades are gross

    yucky

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  • Redjeep83Redjeep83 Members  5981WRX Points: 577Posts: 5,981 Titanium Tees
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    I will say that it is interesting that most of the top world golf ranked players and the best iron players ever use blade irons, it does kinda make me want to play a set tbh. There must be a reason they do, personally I think it's the precision, turf contact and flight they can provide them. These guys also hate flyers

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  • ckayckay Members  4577WRX Points: 645Posts: 4,577 Titanium Tees
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    Ehh, sounds more like a marketing ploy for Callaway.

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    Taylormade M2 Tour 16.5* Atmos Blue 7x
    Taylormade M2 L.I.F.T. 2 KBS Hybrid Proto 85x
    Miura CB57 Nippon SPB X
    Vokey CF 52F/56M/60M S400 Onyx
    Cameron Cami & Co Newport Beach 34/350

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  • BleederFadeBleederFade Members  242WRX Points: 68Handicap: +0.3Posts: 242 Fairways
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    I fall into this category. Switched to blades a couple years ago and my overall scoring has improved / gotten more consistent. Iron game has always been my strong suit but I can get wild off the tee and my putting for sure is buns. Started playing blades because I always wanted to and loved the look and feel they provided. Control and consistency are what I'd prioritize in my irons, these tick those boxes while looking real nice. Haven't really seen the negative to playing them or any difference in forgiveness vs my previous players CBs. Bad swings = bad (possibly lucky) results, the scorecard doesn't ask questions. Play what makes you want to play.

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    Titleist 917 F2 16.5 - Diamana W 80X
    Titleist 718 T-MB 2 - Mitsubishi MMT 125TX
    Mizuno MP18 4 - PW - TTDG X100
    Vokey SM7 52.12 F, 56.14 F - TTDG S400
    Taylormade HiToe 60 - TTDG S400
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  • ssfrannyssfranny Lefty Boomers  3072WRX Points: 328Posts: 3,072 Titanium Tees
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    Doubt it he plays Apex Pro 2016s

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  • Rapatt95Rapatt95 wow Members  685WRX Points: 129Handicap: lolPosts: 685 Golden Tee
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers  29687WRX Points: 2,645Handicap: 0.0Posts: 29,687 Titanium Tees
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    I don't know i'd call them "GI" but i know Furyk was using the Srixon players cavities some time ago.

    Some of those micro-cavities are not that different from blades. Especially some of the newer bigger blades

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    Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 60 w/S300
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  • TigerInTheWoodsTigerInTheWoods Members  2566WRX Points: 1,626Handicap: 5Posts: 2,566 Titanium Tees
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    This is really the point. The guy is 29th all time in money with over $32 million earned. The guys saying he is a short knocker or has carded high scores are actually hilarious. Blades feel and look better. They're also easier to clean. Most + HC I know all play a cavity of some sort.

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  • driveandputtmachinedriveandputtmachine 4 wedges or 2 iron? That is the question! Members  1421WRX Points: 257Handicap: 0.0Posts: 1,421 Platinum Tees
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    I played MP-14 in college for a year. Went back to cavities. Considering the rounds I have played in my life, and they have 95% been played with cavities I am due for the 50,000 "fliers" really soon too. I expect my 9 iron to start going 175 here really soon.

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    Driver - Ping 400 MAX/ SIM
    Fairway - TM M 3HL 
    Irons - (4 -6) Cobra Speed Zone
    Irons (7-W) Cobra Forged Tour
    Wedges - Cleveland CB2 50* and 54*, Cobra MIM  60* at 58* and RTX-4 60* at 62*
    Putter - Mannkrafted MA/66 or Taylormade Spider
    Ball - Srixon Z Star
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  • Rapatt95Rapatt95 wow Members  685WRX Points: 129Handicap: lolPosts: 685 Golden Tee
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    Srixon has made some fantastic cavities, definitely worth play on tour

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    Taylormade V-steel 15* Aldila Tour Blue 75x
    Cobra Rail-H 19* Aldila Tour Blue 75tx 
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    26*-34* C-Taper Lite 115x
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  • GSDriverGSDriver Members  883WRX Points: 179Handicap: 4Posts: 883 Golden Tee
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    Play what you want, who cares what others play?

    Seems in reviewing PGA Pro's WITB, many play hybrids, CB, more forgivable 'driving irons' etc. IIRC, or close, isn't it something like 20% (maybe less) Pros play MBs?

    Each to their own, if works for you go with that....it's how many, not how, after all.

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    Apex Pro 6-P Recoil 110 F4
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    Odyssey EXO Stroke Lab 7 Mini
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    Or the guy that says Na whiffed a tee shot- as if it was unintentional. Some may recall Na did go through a period of serious mental issues on the course and intentionally whiffed quite a few shots when something was off.

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  • Bad9Bad9 Members  4807WRX Points: 647Handicap: 9.2Posts: 4,807 Titanium Tees
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    I guess like a few others I have been lucky. In my 35yrs playing the game I have never experienced a "flier" that was due to the design of the club. And you can't dispute my sense of feel because I can absolutely tell when I hit several families of G series irons towards the toe as readily as the I series and even S55's and Wilson Staff blades.

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    Ping G410 Plus 10.5°/Alta CB55 r flex
    Ping G400 7w/Alta CB r flex
    Ping G400 4h/Xcaliber r flex
    Ping G400 5h/Xcaliber r flex
    Ping G400 6-U/Xcaliber r flex
    Ping Glide 2.0 ES 58°/Xcaliber r flex
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