SNELL GOLF BALLS??? anyone???

OspreyCI · March 6, 2021

12 hours ago, evoviiiyou said:

Been playing the MTB Black for most of this season and I simply love it. Then last week on Sundays 4ball, I happened to find a ball near my ball off the fairway and it was a MTB X (red numbers). No one was around in any direction so someone seemed to have left it. I cleaned it up and proceeded to hit two of the longest drives of the year for me on back to back holes.

Anyway, ordered 5 doz and will not look back. Great spin off my irons and wedges, feels a touch firmer off the putter which is still nice feeling, but the driver performance...man! Thanks to Snell for these bad boys and also they arrived in like three days to my door step in AZ.

Ahhh. He switched! MTB-X is LONG off the tee. Let me know more how you like it around the green. Only reason I switched from it was for more green side spin. Look fwd to your feedback after more rounds.

evoviiiyou · March 6, 2021

8 hours ago, OspreyCI said:

Ahhh. He switched! MTB-X is LONG off the tee. Let me know more how you like it around the green. Only reason I switched from it was for more green side spin. Look fwd to your feedback after more rounds.

Chance encounter is paying off. Will do and so far so good. I noticed a little more spin on the mid short irons and a touch higher launch window with similar one hop and stop action green side. Still similar to the MTB Black. The biggest getting used to feel is off the putter so far with the X feeling a touch firmer. Not “clicky” by any means just a touch firmer which seems to be feel and audible with no change required for speed on putts. I need another round with them. Tomorrow we are playing Sterling Grove CC in Surprise, so should be a good test.

Edited March 6, 2021 by evoviiiyou
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c50sooner · March 10, 2021

@Snell Golf With the spring buy 3 get 1 free deals coming in the next week or so from some of the major manufacturers, just wondering if there were any spring promos in the works for all of us Snell players!? Thanks and keep up the great work!

evoviiiyou · March 12, 2021

Confirmed MTBX is really good off the irons and driver...probably my best driving of the year this past Sunday.

Around the green, I think the Black is better for my feel wedge checkers and the putter.

I have to play a few more rounds with the X to make sure it wasn’t the brand new greens at Sterling Grove (course has only been open for about a month) that made me miss my MTB Black green side. Playing Raven tomorrow and I know those greens very well. Will be a great test for the X. So far impressed top of bag...love the Black as well. Maybe a ball called the XB comes out some day right in between the two. So we get MTB X firm, XB medium, and Black soft.

evoviiiyou · March 13, 2021

Confirmed X is the ball. Had a lot of choice high spin checkers off my T20 56 and was impressed with the green side control of the X. For me either is great but these windy cooler than normal conditions for AZ currently love the X. If you need a premium ball that’s long off the tee, nice spin off the irons and offers a nice feel around the green it’s perfect.

crazygolfnut · March 14, 2021

I am a little confused. Looking at the USGA conforming ball list, the MTB Black in yellow and white look like different balls. Construction is listed as 1c and 2c. The spin is L-H and L-M.

Pole 1: Snell Seam 1: MTB Black yellow 3P-1c L-H 360

Pole 1: Snell Seam 1: MTB Black white 3P-2c L-M 360

I like yellow balls but not sure what to think of the difference.

Edited March 14, 2021 by crazygolfnut

storm319 · March 14, 2021

1 hour ago, crazygolfnut said:

I am a little confused. Looking at the USGA conforming ball list, the MTB Black in yellow and white look like different balls. Construction is listed as 1c and 2c. The spin is L-H and L-M.

Pole 1: Snell Seam 1:   MTB Black yellow   3P-1c   L-H 360

Pole 1: Snell Seam 1:   MTB Black white    3P-2c   L-M 360

I like yellow balls but not sure what to think of the difference.

They all have the same basic construction (appears that the submission form was filled out differently). Ultimately the USGA construction code options are poor given that it leaves mantle classification open to interpretation thus makes cross OEM comparisons difficult (some view it as another cover others not).

iutodd · March 14, 2021

I played MTB-X last year and it is a great ball....but I’m trying out the Black this year. I know I’ll lose a touch of distance off the tee but I’m absolutely loving how it feels putting and I think that’s more important. MGS did their big ball test last year and the Black was about 2 mph less off the driver in ball speed on their “high swing speed” driver test and about 1 mph in their “low swing speed” test. I’m somewhere in between those two so I figure I’m theoretically losing about 3 yards. The 7 iron speed difference was less than .5 mph.

My swing is still coming together (only played one round) and it was only 55 degrees but irons seemed basically the same and the driver/woods were maybe a touch shorter.

I’m lucky to be long enough that I’m OK with losing a bit of distance off the tee if my confidence putting is higher.

Maybe it’s dumb - I shot my best score ever last year with the X after all. I guess I’ll see how long the 2 dozen Blacks last and figure it out from there.

Fairways_and_Greens · March 14, 2021

On 2/11/2021 at 6:14 AM, phil75070 said:

I totally agree. However, ball tests are not typically done across a variety of temperatures. Most anecdotal evidence suggests that softer balls are better in cold temperatures.

TXG found that colder balls were actually faster than room temperature balls. I think all balls are shorter when cold due to air density and wood faces being less elastic.

bmoser9 · March 15, 2021

I tried out the MTB Black this season. For some reason it would balloon on me only with a driver. I don't have some crazy swing speed but it just felt so soft.

luckypolk · March 17, 2021

Played 36 today and finally got to put the trial pack to the test. I played the first 18 with X and the second 18 with Black.

X: It's no lie, the ball is long. There are several open holes on the course I played where you can swing away and I did. I ended up as far as I have on my all-time best drives. Feel off the driver was more of a dink than a thud, if that makes sense lol. Trajectory from both woods and irons was quite high. The ball stopped fine on full swings. I had several occasions where I needed some green side spin and the ball didn't check quite as quickly or as hard as I would've liked. Feel was just a little clicky off the irons, wedges, and putter. Nothing horrendous, but it was noticeable.

Black: Being that I played the same course in the same day with the same conditions, it was easy to give the two balls a fair comparison. The Black is a touch shorter off the tee, but nothing crazy. I ripped a few on the same holes where I had bombed the X and the Black was a few yards behind. I'm not talking 15-20, maybe 5 to 10 at best. Feel off the driver was more of a thud than a dink. Trajectory was still high for what I'm used to seeing, but it was a little lower than the X. It is a more penetrating flight that I'm used to. The ball stopped fine on full swings, no issues. Where the Black won me over was with spin around the greens. In my quest to find a new ball, green side spin has been my number one priority and the Black delivered. I hit several chips and pitches that I needed to check quickly and they did brilliantly. The feel off irons, wedges, and putter was butter.

My ball for 2021 will be the Black. I liked the ball flight and feel off irons/wedges/putter better than the X and the spin around the greens is exactly what I need in my game.

Not gonna lie, I didn't really buy into the hype around these balls, but Dean really has put out two great products. Anybody looking to play a premo ball should look at these. You'll save some bucks without giving up any performance.

AngryGilmore · March 17, 2021

I still like the X. A softer golf ball feels weird to me.

iutodd · March 17, 2021

15 hours ago, luckypolk said:

Played 36 today and finally got to put the trial pack to the test. I played the first 18 with X and the second 18 with Black.

X: It's no lie, the ball is long. There are several open holes on the course I played where you can swing away and I did. I ended up as far as I have on my all-time best drives. Feel off the driver was more of a dink than a thud, if that makes sense lol. Trajectory from both woods and irons was quite high. The ball stopped fine on full swings. I had several occasions where I needed some green side spin and the ball didn't check quite as quickly or as hard as I would've liked. Feel was just a little clicky off the irons, wedges, and putter. Nothing horrendous, but it was noticeable.

Black: Being that I played the same course in the same day with the same conditions, it was easy to give the two balls a fair comparison. The Black is a touch shorter off the tee, but nothing crazy. I ripped a few on the same holes where I had bombed the X and the Black was a few yards behind. I'm not talking 15-20, maybe 5 to 10 at best. Feel off the driver was more of a thud than a dink. Trajectory was still high for what I'm used to seeing, but it was a little lower than the X. It is a more penetrating flight that I'm used to. The ball stopped fine on full swings, no issues. Where the Black won me over was with spin around the greens. In my quest to find a new ball, green side spin has been my number one priority and the Black delivered. I hit several chips and pitches that I needed to check quickly and they did brilliantly. The feel off irons, wedges, and putter was butter.

My ball for 2021 will be the Black. I liked the ball flight and feel off irons/wedges/putter better than the X and the spin around the greens is exactly what I need in my game.

Not gonna lie, I didn't really buy into the hype around these balls, but Dean really has put out two great products. Anybody looking to play a premo ball should look at these. You'll save some bucks without giving up any performance.

Thanks for the comp - I'm feeling basically exactly the same as you - I'll give up 5 yards off the tee for the feel on the greens and irons especially since the irons are, for my level of precision, close enough to the same distance as the X.

If you're coming to this thread looking for buying advice I absolutely recommend getting the test pack and trying both of these balls out just like luckypolk.

phil75070 · March 18, 2021

As I work my way through my last dozen of the 2020 Chrome Soft, I am also waiting for a little warmer weather before I switch totally over to the Black.

Snell Golf · March 25, 2021

Hi.. sorry for the delayed response.. was on the road the last three weeks... as for the BLACK (white color or Yellow color), they are the same ball with the same launch and spin. The USGA has a typo in the information they published.. this info they publish is for reference only, and is not based on anything they test for. We as manufacturers just check off boxes of what we feel are the performance characteristics.. it is not compared to anything else. So they are very vague to begin with . With respect to the question on if we have any spring deals, we actually run a deal YEAR ROUND for everyone... the value packs (5 doz) are heavily discounted and available all year....

scott406 · April 1, 2021

Got a trial pack for X-MAS and finally had a chance to put them in play.

I see in this thread that most everyone is getting more distance with the X but I am actually getting more distance with the Black. Not a lot but noticeable. ( Maybe I just cranked the ball that day.)

The Blacks definitely spin more. The X is a hop and stop for me but the Black actually backed up on a Par 3 green I hit with an 8-iron. Not much difference off of the putter between the X and Black , but definitely softer feel than the BridgeStone RX I was playing last year. I like the softer feel on the putter.

I also have a dozen OnCor Elixir that I will be trying out when the test pack is gone, but, as of right now, I intend to play the Black this summer.

I was also wondering if we will get Black high numbers by any chance? @Snell Golf

PS

For the price, it is the best ball you can buy.

Imp · April 2, 2021

Every now and then high numbers do go into stock. Just sign up for emails and you'll get a heads up. Snell.com > Login. At bottom, without having to log in, put your email addy in under News and Updates header.

I got the 5 doz before winter hit and am happy to report I haven't lost a ball yet!

--kC

Stanks · April 3, 2021

If I didn't have 6 dozen ProV1 X, 1 Dozen CSX LS, 1 Dozen ProV1 and a handful of RZN balls to get rid of, I'd be grabbing Yellow MTBX upon release. I am hoping, by the time I need new balls, they're more readily available and in yellow and, maybe, a new version.

Call me crazy but, I am concerned that the next batch that comes in have as high of standards to prior Covid world. Not that I think there is anything to be concerned about.

phil75070 · April 3, 2021

I have been hesitant to put in play the MTB Blacks that I picked up around the Holidays as I want to give them a fair test. It has been cold and damp all year so far and it wouldn't give a true indication of performance. For example, it was in the upper 30's when we teed off yesterday with a cold North breeze. However, it now looks like the weather is finally going to break next week with temps around 60° or more at tee time with highs in the 80s. So I figure this will be a good time to finally put them in play!

GolfTurkey · April 7, 2021

MTB-X is a boss in the wind, which is the main reason why I switched from ProV1x.

I played in a strong wind on Saturday got plenty comments from my playing partners re. how straight my ball was staying in the wind compared to theirs. It wasn't me, it was the ball.

Stanks · April 7, 2021

Take it for what it is but, allocation for MTB Black predict stories for a lot of other companies.

Imp · April 7, 2021

Came here to post this, already beat.

X high numbers in stock.
Black yellow in stock.

Get 'em while they last!

scott406 · April 7, 2021

I had the test pack of the Blacks and the X.

I also had a dozen OnCore Elixr and I like the Elixr but in no way was it close the the Snell

The Snell was at least 10yds longer off the tee (Black)

The Snell Black had more spin but the Elixr did perform well. It is a good ball, but I cant get over the distance I get with the Snell off the tee.

Next test with the Snell will be against the Z-Stars( last yr model) I bought when they went on sale

So far the Black and the RX are my 2 favorite balls

The Snells get the nod on price and they feel softer off of the putter.

Cwing · April 8, 2021

Snell ball closest in performance to the:

ProV =

TP5 =

Imp · April 8, 2021

1 hour ago, Cwing said:

Snell ball closest in performance to the:

ProV =

TP5 =

Already covered in the thread. (Not to be a PITA, or a smartass.... but would help from repeating info over and over). Functions like this have greater utility than people give them credit for, just gotta know where to look)

Edited April 8, 2021 by Imp

AngryGilmore · April 8, 2021

The last two seasons, I've experimented with other balls (Srixon, Bridgestone) but keep coming back to the X. The Bridgestone went a long way and stopped when I wanted it to but was really affected by the wind. Like, they were blown 10-15 yards offline. We consistently play in wind here so that was definitely a negative. The X has been solid and cuts through the wind very well and still does everything I need a ball to do.

norcaltrojan · April 8, 2021

Have to agree with everyone here about the MTB-X's wind performance. Into the wind the ball cuts through better than any ball I've ever played. When playing in a side wind the ball tends to hold up against it rather than ride it which is exactly what I want.

Two other features that I'd like to point out is that the shade of Optic Yellow is by far the most visible ball on the market. The second is that the cover material actually feels similar to the White offering. This isn't the case for Titleist, Srixon, Bridgestone yellow balls which are a duller shade of yellow but also have clickier covers than their white counterparts.

Cwing · April 8, 2021

9 hours ago, Imp said:

Already covered in the thread. (Not to be a PITA, or a smartass.... but would help from repeating info over and over). Functions like this have greater utility than people give them credit for, just gotta know where to look)

Just jumping in. Not going to go through 183 pages of thread to find a simple question.

Performing a search as you suggest will narrow it down a little but it brings up every reply that contains tp5 or prov1 including those that contain tp5x and prov1.

Edited April 8, 2021 by Cwing

Cwing · April 8, 2021

10 hours ago, Cwing said:

Snell ball closest in performance to the:

ProV =

TP5 =

Can anyone answer or point me to the reply that contains this info?

Edited April 8, 2021 by Cwing

NRJyzr · April 8, 2021

20 minutes ago, Cwing said:

Can anyone answer or point me to the reply that contains this info?

There's not a direct translation with the MTB Black and MTB-X, it's a bit of mix and match.

The MTB X is firmer like the TP5x, but per Dean Snell spins more on the short irons like a TP5. MTB Black is softer like the TP5, but spins a bit less on the short irons, though maybe not quite to the TP5x level. Short game, the two balls should be roughly equivalent.

If you look at the Today's Golfer Ball Test, it can give you an idea. It was robot testing, at three different swingspeeds with driver. Should give you a decent idea of how they compare.

I'll try paste the chart results, and here's the link if you'd like to see it all yourself: https://Not allowed Per Todaysgolfer's UK request/features/equipment-features/2019/september/robot-tested-which-golf-bal-suits-my-game/