Tour Titleist TSR2, TSR3 & TSR4 driver & TSR2, TSR2+ & TSR3 3 wood - 2022 Travelers

[bjno1300]

Looked like Jordan teeing the tsr2 down kinda low and hammering it. Spin around 2000 and big carry. 

[mason82]

I’ve got both the 2 and 3 fairways. Going to go with the 2. Doesnt feel quite as good as the 3, but it it so easy to launch. 

[mretrade]

So a few weeks ago I ordered the TSR 2 with ventus black 6x. When it arrived I got the TR version, which I don't even see available on the website. But the fitter never wrote TR version on my specs. 

 

Long story short, I tried it and like it much better.

 

Now im thinking I want to add the TSR2+ with ventus black 7x, but I want the TR version, but don't see it as an option on their website. Any suggestions? 

[Gtyler14]

31 minutes ago, mretrade said:

So a few weeks ago I ordered the TSR 2 with ventus black 6x. When it arrived I got the TR version, which I don't even see available on the website. But the fitter never wrote TR version on my specs. 

 

Long story short, I tried it and like it much better.

 

Now im thinking I want to add the TSR2+ with ventus black 7x, but I want the TR version, but don't see it as an option on their website. Any suggestions? 

Probably call them and see to make sure unless you order a stock setup and get the shaft from a different dealer

[getitdaily]

3 hours ago, mretrade said:

So a few weeks ago I ordered the TSR 2 with ventus black 6x. When it arrived I got the TR version, which I don't even see available on the website. But the fitter never wrote TR version on my specs. 

 

Long story short, I tried it and like it much better.

 

Now im thinking I want to add the TSR2+ with ventus black 7x, but I want the TR version, but don't see it as an option on their website. Any suggestions? 

Order and hope to get lucky again...

[btyh]

Did I miss a explanation for the updated face tech compared to the ati from tsi? Just says aerospace materials for tsr and speed ring...

Edited February 13, 2023 by btyh

[puttingmatt]

Put a TSR3 3 wood in the bag.

Plays very good, compliments the Callaway UW on gapping . unless I make a driver replacement (Titleist) , top end of bag is complete.  Last Titleists  were  the 913's . Enjoy the feel and sound of the TSR3. 

 

Edited February 14, 2023 by puttingmatt

[Albatross Dreamer]

Anyone hit both the TSR2 & 3 drivers on the course side by side? If so, how much difference did you see in forgiveness between the two? As in, 5 yards more online, etc, etc. 

 

Went with the TSR3 since I hit it better in testing when indoors. But was out on the course some this past week and am wondering how the 2 might compare. Ideally could pick up a head and compare directly, but would depend on the difference if that's a route worth considering or not.

Edited February 14, 2023 by Albatross Dreamer

[WillyL]

20 hours ago, btyh said:

Did I miss a explanation for the updated face tech compared to the ati from tsi? Just says aerospace materials for tsr and speed ring...

Read somewhere its the second generation of ATI technology

[GooseHook]

32 minutes ago, Albatross Dreamer said:

Anyone hit both the TSR2 & 3 drivers on the course side by side? If so, how much difference did you see in forgiveness between the two? As in, 5 yards more online, etc, etc. 

 

Went with the TSR3 since I hit it better in testing when indoors. But was out on the course some this past week and am wondering how the 2 might compare. Ideally could pick up a head and compare directly, but would depend on the difference if that's a route worth considering or not.

 

Unforunately not outside, but enough simulator testing to get a feel for forgiveness. The TSR2 definitely has the 3 beat for me in terms of forgiveness, but my backspin is still on the high side with a 8* TSR2 head lofted down. The ball speed is outstanding on the 2, can't ask for any more. If on course results can confirm I'm not hitting moonballs then it's going to be the TSR2 all the way. The whole head feels like a sweet spot and you can kinda get away with murder low on the face. 

 

I'm still experimenting with the lower loft heads- I had a 9* TSR3 head but that spun too high for me, and I have a 8*  TSR3 head coming tomorrow or Thursday to try out. I want to give the 3 head one more chance now that I'm settled on the Ventus TR Red. When I tried my first TSR3 head I didn't have the TR Red yet and had some trouble making consistently good contact. 

[dwboston]

21 minutes ago, WillyL said:

Read somewhere its the second generation of ATI technology

 

It's still ATI titanium on the face, just not directly branded on the face anymore.

[Warrick]

I think a lot are overlooking the 4 with the swap able weights. If you get some extra weights, find the perfect balance and spin, supposedly same face as the 2, then add in shaft options.

 

I am only 105 SS, have the 4 with 11 back , 5 front, Ventus red. I also have 13/7 weights coming to dial this in, so many options with this driver.

 

Oh, and the most beautiful head out…..

[Albatross Dreamer]

1 hour ago, GooseHook said:

 

Unforunately not outside, but enough simulator testing to get a feel for forgiveness. The TSR2 definitely has the 3 beat for me in terms of forgiveness, but my backspin is still on the high side with a 8* TSR2 head lofted down. The ball speed is outstanding on the 2, can't ask for any more. If on course results can confirm I'm not hitting moonballs then it's going to be the TSR2 all the way. The whole head feels like a sweet spot and you can kinda get away with murder low on the face. 

 

I'm still experimenting with the lower loft heads- I had a 9* TSR3 head but that spun too high for me, and I have a 8*  TSR3 head coming tomorrow or Thursday to try out. I want to give the 3 head one more chance now that I'm settled on the Ventus TR Red. When I tried my first TSR3 head I didn't have the TR Red yet and had some trouble making consistently good contact. 

That's really helpful to know thanks! If I was to get the 2 would maybe consider the 8* for the same reason, or possibly turn a 9* down.

 

On the course it seems like I'm launching the 3 high, but think the spin might be ok as I'm getting good carry distances. Been working to get a more + AoA too so that could be part of it. In testing I think the biggest thing with the 2 was it spun way up on the heel miss, whereas the 3 kept it manageable. But I personally like to see ball flights outdoor as well to compare.

[dalillama47]

1 hour ago, GooseHook said:

 

Unforunately not outside, but enough simulator testing to get a feel for forgiveness. The TSR2 definitely has the 3 beat for me in terms of forgiveness, but my backspin is still on the high side with a 8* TSR2 head lofted down. The ball speed is outstanding on the 2, can't ask for any more. If on course results can confirm I'm not hitting moonballs then it's going to be the TSR2 all the way. The whole head feels like a sweet spot and you can kinda get away with murder low on the face. 

 

I'm still experimenting with the lower loft heads- I had a 9* TSR3 head but that spun too high for me, and I have a 8*  TSR3 head coming tomorrow or Thursday to try out. I want to give the 3 head one more chance now that I'm settled on the Ventus TR Red. When I tried my first TSR3 head I didn't have the TR Red yet and had some trouble making consistently good contact. 

IMO the red could be the culprit as far as your spin and moon balls. Great fairway shaft, not so much for a driver.

[Albatross Dreamer]

41 minutes ago, Warrick said:

I think a lot are overlooking the 4 with the swap able weights. If you get some extra weights, find the perfect balance and spin, supposedly same face as the 2, then add in shaft options.

 

I am only 105 SS, have the 4 with 11 back , 5 front, Ventus red. I also have 13/7 weights coming to dial this in, so many options with this driver.

 

Oh, and the most beautiful head out…..

That's a good point, and something to consider if it can help spin. Does the 4 have a deeper face then the 2? What kind of distances have you been getting with yours?

[HarborMike]

2 hours ago, Albatross Dreamer said:

Anyone hit both the TSR2 & 3 drivers on the course side by side? If so, how much difference did you see in forgiveness between the two? As in, 5 yards more online, etc, etc. 

 

Went with the TSR3 since I hit it better in testing when indoors. But was out on the course some this past week and am wondering how the 2 might compare. Ideally could pick up a head and compare directly, but would depend on the difference if that's a route worth considering or not.

I gamed TSi3 in 9 degree head and other low spinning heads, but was fitted int TSR2 in 8 degree. I was getting about 5-8 yds more with the TSR3, but wasn’t even close on forgiveness. I was punished more in both distance and shot dispersion with the TSR3 vs. the TSR2. With that said, I don’t think TSR3 is an unforgiving driver at all, probably one if the most forgiving in the players/low spin category. Spin and launch numbers were pretty much similar, but decided to sacrifice a bit of distance for more consistency. Later on being a club hoe that I am, when it’s warmer and swing has improved with living out more consistently in the middle of the club face more, I may switch to TSR3. 

[Warrick]

1 hour ago, Albatross Dreamer said:

That's a good point, and something to consider if it can help spin. Does the 4 have a deeper face then the 2? What kind of distances have you been getting with yours?

I am not sure if it is deeper or not.

 

I got my first 9 in with the red yesterday was 52 and a bit wet, mud balls galore, and I was still not far off normal, also need a bit more weight, so will have to mess with that. I have an AD DI that I really like also, so some messing around to do this spring. I have a tendency to just hit it pretty straight. The Ventus did feel really stable yesterday 

[Albatross Dreamer]

1 hour ago, Warrick said:

I am not sure if it is deeper or not.

 

I got my first 9 in with the red yesterday was 52 and a bit wet, mud balls galore, and I was still not far off normal, also need a bit more weight, so will have to mess with that. I have an AD DI that I really like also, so some messing around to do this spring. I have a tendency to just hit it pretty straight. The Ventus did feel really stable yesterday 

I'd be perfectly fine with straight shots on the regular haha. 

[Albatross Dreamer]

3 hours ago, HarborMike said:

I gamed TSi3 in 9 degree head and other low spinning heads, but was fitted int TSR2 in 8 degree. I was getting about 5-8 yds more with the TSR3, but wasn’t even close on forgiveness. I was punished more in both distance and shot dispersion with the TSR3 vs. the TSR2. With that said, I don’t think TSR3 is an unforgiving driver at all, probably one if the most forgiving in the players/low spin category. Spin and launch numbers were pretty much similar, but decided to sacrifice a bit of distance for more consistency. Later on being a club hoe that I am, when it’s warmer and swing has improved with living out more consistently in the middle of the club face more, I may switch to TSR3. 

Sounds like I'm in a similar boat as you. Except forgiveness was about the same, but it could have just been how I was swinging that day. It sorta seems like for what I'm looking for might need an on course comparison to really see how it matters. If I'm not punished too bad with my misses with the TSR3 then the extra distance does appeal to me. But like you said if it's affecting playability of the next shot then the TSR2 might be worth it.

[GooseHook]

6 hours ago, dalillama47 said:

IMO the red could be the culprit as far as your spin and moon balls. Great fairway shaft, not so much for a driver.

 

I would have thought that too, but the TR Red and Black both put up similar spin and launch numbers. The difference for me was in better strike consistency and comfort level with the bend profile. On average I actually launch the Red a little bit lower than the Black. 

 

I also have a long-time swing fault of hitting too up, too inside-out, with a slightly open face. Correction in those areas is my biggest priority for the golf season (while trying to manage an infant at home). 

[GooseHook]

6 hours ago, Albatross Dreamer said:

That's really helpful to know thanks! If I was to get the 2 would maybe consider the 8* for the same reason, or possibly turn a 9* down.

 

On the course it seems like I'm launching the 3 high, but think the spin might be ok as I'm getting good carry distances. Been working to get a more + AoA too so that could be part of it. In testing I think the biggest thing with the 2 was it spun way up on the heel miss, whereas the 3 kept it manageable. But I personally like to see ball flights outdoor as well to compare.

 

My personal rule is that if you're launching it almost too high, then you're probably launching it enough to max your carry. As long as it isn't eaten up by wind then no need to mess with a good thing. 

 

Did you have to do much trial and error with the 3's weight setting or do you consistently hit heel side?

[bjno1300]

For those of you that have the tsr2 4 wood do you feel it’s versatile with the ability to run one way out there with flighted down shot or does it just go high? Like to hear how the tsr3 4 wood is going for you guys too. 🍻

[Albatross Dreamer]

13 hours ago, GooseHook said:

 

My personal rule is that if you're launching it almost too high, then you're probably launching it enough to max your carry. As long as it isn't eaten up by wind then no need to mess with a good thing. 

 

Did you have to do much trial and error with the 3's weight setting or do you consistently hit heel side?

Good point. If anything I'd maybe consider turning it down on windy days, but would want to see if that affects my consistency or not.

 

I do tend to hit consistently more on the heel side, so my next experiment is probably playing with the sliding weight and seeing if it helps. That was what I did during testing and it seemed to help some. I was using the Surefit hosel first, then testing shafts so didn't wanna add an extra thing. But I think I'd rather keep the hosel in A1 then move the sliding weight as needed.

[Gatorgolf04]

I apologize in advance if this has been covered (114 pages is a lot), but I'm thinking of cutting down my TSR2 7 wood shaft and adding back 4 grams in the head. Anybody experimented with adding weight to the TSR2 fairways? I noticed the weight port was closer to the face so I was hoping it would lower the CG a little bit since my 7 wood goes to the moon. 

[uglande]

56 minutes ago, Gatorgolf04 said:

I apologize in advance if this has been covered (114 pages is a lot), but I'm thinking of cutting down my TSR2 7 wood shaft and adding back 4 grams in the head. Anybody experimented with adding weight to the TSR2 fairways? I noticed the weight port was closer to the face so I was hoping it would lower the CG a little bit since my 7 wood goes to the moon. 

I ordered mine with a heavier and shorter shaft (41.00 inches) and added +6g to the head. I did it mostly to reduce total distance for better gapping. But even in this configuration is goes pretty high and spins in the low-/mid-5000s. 

 

So lowering launch and spin is your objective, this approach might help a little bit but the effect won't be dramatic in my experience. 

 

I've actually replaced the 7w for the time being -- but the U500 back in -- but that part of my bag is in perpetual flux. 

[daegyu]

Does changing loft on the adapter affect face angle on the TSR? I know conventional wisdom says adding or decreasing loft will either open or close the club face? 

[dwboston]

25 minutes ago, daegyu said:

Does changing loft on the adapter affect face angle on the TSR? I know conventional wisdom says adding or decreasing loft will either open or close the club face? 

 

Yes - and it's not conventional wisdom.

 

[Gatorgolf04]

8 hours ago, uglande said:

I ordered mine with a heavier and shorter shaft (41.00 inches) and added +6g to the head. I did it mostly to reduce total distance for better gapping. But even in this configuration is goes pretty high and spins in the low-/mid-5000s. 

 

So lowering launch and spin is your objective, this approach might help a little bit but the effect won't be dramatic in my experience. 

 

I've actually replaced the 7w for the time being -- but the U500 back in -- but that part of my bag is in perpetual flux. 

Appreciate the feedback here. I guess I'll keep tinkering as the windows for my 7 wood and Mizuno Fli-Hi are vastly different. I just bought the TSR3 hybrid, so here's to hoping isn't as left prone as every other hybrid. 

[cg0rd0noo7]

22 minutes ago, Gatorgolf04 said:

Appreciate the feedback here. I guess I'll keep tinkering as the windows for my 7 wood and Mizuno Fli-Hi are vastly different. I just bought the TSR3 hybrid, so here's to hoping isn't as left prone as every other hybrid. 

A seven wood is designed to have a higher ball flight than a hybrid or a driving iron. Seven woods are suppose to go super high and land soft. Hybrids will fly in a lower window and driving irons usually even lower than that. You are not going to get a seven wood to have the same flight as you mizuno fly high. 

[Gatorgolf04]

1 hour ago, cg0rd0noo7 said:

A seven wood is designed to have a higher ball flight than a hybrid or a driving iron. Seven woods are suppose to go super high and land soft. Hybrids will fly in a lower window and driving irons usually even lower than that. You are not going to get a seven wood to have the same flight as you mizuno fly high. 

 

Understood. There's some ball flight "rules" around peak height that say all of your clubs should have the same peak height (mine is somewhere around 95'). This spot in my bag is the only one where I have either too high with the 7 wood, too low with the driving iron, or too left with the hybrid, haha. Just looking for some options out there from a fitting perspective if possible.