Jon Rahm the villain?

WKYTrooperWKYTrooper Members Posts: 189 ClubWRX
People, media, podcasts, etc... all talk about how golf needs villains. I don't know if golf NEEDS them but the past little bit has fueled some for sure. The latest was Patrick Reed after the Masters win.



I personally CANNOT stand Jon Rahm. I think he's very talented but SOOOOOOO overhyped by all of the golf media. They want him to be the next generation and his whole demeanor crawls all over me. He complains about almost every shot. This is followed by temper tantrums right there on the green. This has spanned to the point he has been very rude and aggressive with cameramen on course. Like....they literally have one job, buddy. To record you. This has happened several times and then just two weeks ago, after a poor tee shot on a par 3 at the Farmers, he literally hurled his club down 10 yards toward the tee box. The guy is a ticking time bomb and if you need a villain to cheer against.....I've got mine.



What are your feelings? Am I alone?
PING G400 9* Alta X
PING G25 15* Matrix Ozik Black Tie X
PING G25 20* Matrix Ozik Red TIe X
PING i20 4-PW green dot
Titleist Vokey 51*, 56*, 60*
Odyssey 7CS XG
«1

Comments

  • oikos1oikos1 Members Posts: 2,268 ✭✭
    Villain? How much of a villain can a golfer be? I doubt his on course antics are even comparable to some others and their off course indiscretions.
  • hell_is_chromehell_is_chrome Members Posts: 935 ✭✭
    I'm not a fan but I would argue with "overhyped". He's currently #6 in the world with a best of #2. Believe he had a good chance to hit #1 at one point. He's got a lot of game and he's going to be talked about.
  • Steele47Steele47 Members Posts: 1,304 ✭✭
    Not really a fan either. He's young though and who knows.. in the future I may be pulling for him. Or maybe he'll beat up sand traps. We'll see.
  • straightshot7straightshot7 Members Posts: 2,979 ✭✭
    Yeah Rahm's not over-hyped. He's really good. And his results prove that.



    It is funny how certain players bother people and not others. Rahm doesn't bother me at all, whereas I find Spieth nauseating (the constant commentary and complaining after every [bad] shot). But I know there are lots of people that aren't bothered by Spieth.
  • wildcatdenwildcatden China Cat Sunflower Members Posts: 866 ✭✭
    If they put Rahm, Garcia and Hatton out as the first group to tee off, the PGA may have to cancel the tournament due to course damage.
  • OldTomMorrisOldTomMorris Edinburgh, ScotlandMembers Posts: 2,189 ✭✭
    Tantrums aside supposedly he's a great guy and very popular, it wouldn't work portraying him as a villain.
    Titleist 910D3 8.5°
    TaylorMade M3 15°
    Titleist CB (710) 3-PW
    Callaway Mack Daddy 4 Chrome 54° S Grind & 58° C Grind
    Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2
    Titleist Pro V 1x
  • 3whacker3whacker Members Posts: 409 ✭✭
    Rahm has got game, but they are so hoping for the next Seve and since we know that the little Nino never measured up despite getting a green jacket...Rahm doesn't seem to have any charisma or charm,,,talented but others that I would rather watch
  • iBanestoiBanesto Niclas Fasth Members Posts: 4,445 ✭✭
    wildcatden wrote:


    If they put Rahm, Garcia and Hatton out as the first group to tee off, the PGA may have to cancel the tournament due to course damage.




    Yeah but if you play like Rose, Kuchar and ZJ, you're called boring.
  • soregongolfersoregongolfer Members Posts: 1,295 ✭✭
    I've had mine since Thanksgiving 2009.
  • VindogVindog Don't order the schnitzel. They're using schnauzer! Members Posts: 17,491 ✭✭
    Now that you got that off your chest, take the rest of the day off.
    run of the mill driver with stock shaft
    a couple of outdated hybrids
    shovel-ier shovels
    wedges from same shovel company
    some putter with a dead insert and
    a hideous grip
  • Jackhammer993Jackhammer993 Members Posts: 847 ✭✭
    Judging from what I read on these forums I would say more are against this guy than for him so I guess that could make him a villain. I can see why his reaction to his shots rubs people the wrong way but it is almost always self directed with the exception of one shot at the Desert Classic where he got upset with a camera man. I like him but as with most golfers these days am dissapointed that he is unable to finish off tournaments. If he gets in a position to win all of a sudden drives start missing the fairways and putts start missing the holes. And he is definitely not Seve around the greens which really irks me when announcers bring that up. He is most likely influenced by Seve but his short game is nowhere near what Seves was.
  • new2g0lfnew2g0lf Members Posts: 3,361 ✭✭
    Rahm is a good golfer, I fear his career will be hampered by his temper and poor attitude much like Sergio's was. I have no problem with a golfer showing emotion but they need to be able to have a little outburst and move on to the next hole. It appears Rahm is like Sergio and that temper builds over a round, he doesn't seem very good at moving forward.



    As for being a villain, the better word might be heel but even that isn't applicable with Rahm. He seems like a good guy who just needs to mature a bit and learn to either better manage his temper or learn to use it to help him play better not worse.
    Driver - Ping G400 MAX 10.5*
    Woods - XXIO 10 3W
    Hybrids - XXIO 10 3H, 4H, 5H
    Irons - Home - PXG Gen 2 0311P 5-GW Away - Ping i500 5-AW
    Wedge - Vokey TVD 56* K Grind
    Putter - Seemore Nashville mFGP2 SS Mallet Black
    Ball - KSig, TM TP5X, Snell MTB
  • FergusonFerguson Members Posts: 4,641 ✭✭
    WKYTrooper wrote:


    People, media, podcasts, etc... all talk about how golf needs villains. I don't know if golf NEEDS them but the past little bit has fueled some for sure. The latest was Patrick Reed after the Masters win.



    I personally CANNOT stand Jon Rahm. I think he's very talented but SOOOOOOO overhyped by all of the golf media. They want him to be the next generation and his whole demeanor crawls all over me. He complains about almost every shot. This is followed by temper tantrums right there on the green. This has spanned to the point he has been very rude and aggressive with cameramen on course. Like....they literally have one job, buddy. To record you. This has happened several times and then just two weeks ago, after a poor tee shot on a par 3 at the Farmers, he literally hurled his club down 10 yards toward the tee box. The guy is a ticking time bomb and if you need a villain to cheer against.....I've got mine.



    What are your feelings? Am I alone?






    You're not alone.



    He's ambiguously husky.
  • CasualLieCasualLie Do Woodchucks Chuck Wood? Members Posts: 1,401 ✭✭
    He did show the other side of the emotional coin at the Ryder Cup. A bit overdone as beating a worn out Tiger is no big deal, but at least he is not all fire.



    I can see how some people are annoyed. As high as his ranking is, he doesn't win enough to justify the tantrums. It would be hilarious if the microphone would catch a playing partner saying "you are not good enough to hit that shot" after one of his flubs.



    But he is good and can hit the ball a ton. Sets up well for the courses that allow bomb and gouge. I still don't think he will win a major which makes him right up there to carry the BPWAM trophy.
  • golfgirlrobingolfgirlrobin Members Posts: 2,304 ✭✭
    A year or so back, he put a ball into a hazard and a volunteer waved that he had found it. Rahm had to walk up to see if he could play it, but it was basically unplayable. Instead of a quick thanks, he gave the guy an exaggerated gesture of frustration and then basically said “Why’d you bring me up here for that? I can’t play that” and walked away in a huff.



    It irked me. It’s not the volunteer’s job to determine his shot and he treated him like crap. Throw in the temper nonsense and he’s not a guy I root for.



    I don’t buy the villain thing but he’s definitely got an immaturity problem.
    Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5*
    Fairway: Epic Flash 14* & 20*
    Hybrid: Ping G410 22*
    Irons: TaylorMade M CGB 6-SW
    Wedges: Callaway 2019 PM Grind 59* and 64*
    Putter: Ping Cadence TR Ketsch
    Ball:  Titleist Pro V1
  • bscinstnctbscinstnct Members Posts: 26,323 ✭✭
    They should have a day where they pair tour pros and they change "personalities" with their partner.



    Like JRose and Rahm could be paired up and Rose can curse and slam clubs and when Rahm hits a crappy shot he just shrugs and says, "well, that wasnt prime".



  • Dr. BlockDr. Block Members Posts: 610 ✭✭
    His on course tantrums are ridiculous and make me want to dislike him, but then I catch an interview and get a dose of his articulate and humble charm and I am torn.
  • Glaze22Glaze22 FORE!!!! Members Posts: 757 ✭✭
    edited Feb 5, 2019 3:30pm #19
    Rahm is an as$ hat!!!!!!!!!! Some people call him fiery, or passionate, etc...... he is a baby. He has more drama then 20 drunk sorority girls on spring break. If I acted like that for more than say maybe 1 hole, I would not have anyone to play golf with.
    Post edited by Unknown User on
  • KillerPenguinKillerPenguin Members Posts: 567 ✭✭


    I've had mine since Thanksgiving 2009.


    Hey, Elin seems like a nice gal!

    Glaze22 wrote:


    Rahm is an as$ hat!!!!!!!!!! Some people call him fiery, or passionate, etc...... he is a baby. He has more drama then 20 drunk sorority girls on spring brake. If I acted like that for more than say maybe 1 hole, I would not have anyone to play golf with.


    He probably doesn't vomit that much though.
  • StanksStanks Everything I post is confrontational Members Posts: 1,230 ✭✭
    He is a class act but an self hater in my mind. He knows he can do better and treats himself that way. He was pretty emotional when he played and beat tiger at the Ryder cup.



    Nothing wrong with Rahm in my opinion. Just very hard on himself when it’s not going his way.
  • PittSharkPittShark Littering and...... ClubWRX Posts: 657 ClubWRX
    Dr. Block wrote:


    His on course tantrums are ridiculous and make me want to dislike him, but then I catch an interview and get a dose of his articulate and humble charm and I am torn.




    This is more or less my take as well. I still don't like some of his on-course behavior (particularly having read that story above regarding the hazard and the volunteer), but I REALLY couldn't stand him before. What slightly changed my perception was his spot on Feherty. Along with being insightful and engaging in an interview setting, I was blown away by how he said he approached the English language. I don't remember word-for-word, but it was something to the extent of "it's not enough to just learn the words of the language, I wanted to be able to articulate effectively and pronounce words correctly....that's why I worked very hard at it". I really respect that.....also doesn't hurt that he's BFF's with Larry Fitzgerald. As a fellow Pitt guy who was at school at the same time as Larry, I'm a huge fan and therefore I'm giving Rahm a bump in cred based on association, haha
    Callaway Rogue 10.5*, Tour AD-DI6s
    Callaway Epic 16*, Tour AD-DI6s
    Cobra King F7 3-4H 19*, Tour AD-DI 85s Hyb
    Bridgestone Tour B X-CB 4-PW, KBS $-Taper 120s
    Scratch Forged 50*, SS Grind
    Scratch Tour Dept 54*, FAW Grind
    Scratch Tour Dept 58*, RPD Grind
    Scotty Cameron 2016 Select NP 2.5, 1st of 500
  • WKYTrooperWKYTrooper Members Posts: 189 ClubWRX
    Okay, some of the villain takes are a little extreme. I don't think he's a bad guy. I don't know him and don't want to judge anyone without meeting them personally that way. Its the way he handles himself that pisses me off more than anything. His demeanor is immature and not professional. The story above about the volunteer is a perfect example. It makes me cheer against him....villain type view.



    Also, my comment about him being overhyped was in reference to how the media was going bonkers in the past about him. Never did I mention him not being an amazing talent. His game is all around unbelievable with his main handicap probably being his attitude.
    PING G400 9* Alta X
    PING G25 15* Matrix Ozik Black Tie X
    PING G25 20* Matrix Ozik Red TIe X
    PING i20 4-PW green dot
    Titleist Vokey 51*, 56*, 60*
    Odyssey 7CS XG
  • DJGainerDJGainer Members Posts: 124 ✭✭
    I don't see why people think of him as a villain. I like watching him play and want to see how his next few seasons turn out. He could be a major part of this new generation and maybe, for some of you, he just needs to mature a bit. I personally see no problem with his behavior based on what I've seen in coverage.
  • thesaxemachinethesaxemachine Hello, friends... Members Posts: 433 ✭✭
    PittShark wrote:

    Dr. Block wrote:


    His on course tantrums are ridiculous and make me want to dislike him, but then I catch an interview and get a dose of his articulate and humble charm and I am torn.




    This is more or less my take as well. I still don't like some of his on-course behavior (particularly having read that story above regarding the hazard and the volunteer), but I REALLY couldn't stand him before. What slightly changed my perception was his spot on Feherty. Along with being insightful and engaging in an interview setting, I was blown away by how he said he approached the English language. I don't remember word-for-word, but it was something to the extent of "it's not enough to just learn the words of the language, I wanted to be able to articulate effectively and pronounce words correctly....that's why I worked very hard at it". I really respect that.....also doesn't hurt that he's BFF's with Larry Fitzgerald. As a fellow Pitt guy who was at school at the same time as Larry, I'm a huge fan and therefore I'm giving Rahm a bump in cred based on association, haha




    Similar views here. I'll also give him a bit of a break because he's young. His on course antics aren't great, but he does come across as a pretty good dude everywhere else.
    Rogue SZ w/ Tour AD GP
    M1 w/ Diamana Thump
    GAPR w/ KBS Tour Proto
    Srixon Z-765 w/ PX LZ
    Vokey 46° 50° 54°
    Hi-Toe 58°
    Bobby Grace Tour Diamond 3
  • I_HATE_SNOWI_HATE_SNOW Members Posts: 3,259 ✭✭
    edited Feb 5, 2019 4:18pm #26
    Did you mean Sergio instead of Jon?
  • WKYTrooperWKYTrooper Members Posts: 189 ClubWRX
    Negative. Lol. Sergio is a whole different beast. There have been more than one occasion when Rahm has had words with a camera man. Slamming clubs. Etc. Dude is a head case and it makes me pull against him. I hope he matures soon and (as other parts of his personality have) I become a fan. He's got game but I can't stand him.
    PING G400 9* Alta X
    PING G25 15* Matrix Ozik Black Tie X
    PING G25 20* Matrix Ozik Red TIe X
    PING i20 4-PW green dot
    Titleist Vokey 51*, 56*, 60*
    Odyssey 7CS XG
  • MarkFromTheUKMarkFromTheUK Members Posts: 4,639 ✭✭
    There’s something about quite a few Spanish golfers that I just cannot warm to. Surely it’s no coincidence that Seve, Garcia & Rahm play(ed) golf with massive chips on their shoulders. I think they underservedly get a free pass from a lot of people, when their behaviour at times is nothing short of embarrassing and petulant. Commentators excuse their obnoxiousness and call it “passion”.
    PXG 0811X Gen2 9deg Driver - AD-GP 7TX
    PXG 0341X Gen2 15deg Fairway - AD-GP 8TX
    PXG 0311X Gen2 1 DI - KBS Prototype Graphite 95X
    PXG 0311X Gen2 3 DI - KBS Prototype Graphite 95X
    PXG 0311T Gen2 4-PW - Dynamic Gold X7
    PXG 0311T Sugar Daddy 51 - Dynamic Gold X7
    PXG 0311T Sugar Daddy 56 - Dynamic Gold X7
    PXG 0311T Zulu 61 - Dynamic Gold X7
    PXG Brandon H - 34.5”
    PXG Operator H - 34.5”
    Toulon Indianapolis - 34.5”
    PXG 50/50 Staff Bag
    Bridgestone Tour B X

    KaBoom Baby!
  • Scotty1140Scotty1140 Members Posts: 4,442 ✭✭
    bscinstnct wrote:


    They should have a day where they pair tour pros and they change "personalities" with their partner.



    Like JRose and Rahm could be paired up and Rose can curse and slam clubs and when Rahm hits a crappy shot he just shrugs and says, "well, that wasnt prime".


    Wow imagine the possibilities.
  • toctoc Members Posts: 2,760 ✭✭
    Poor Sabbatini
    Glove: ML
    Tees: 2 3/4
    Towel: white
    Repair tool: metal
    Ball Marker: largest poker chip in the world
    Iron headcovers: wait, what?

    The feedback system is annoying
  • AppAlumAppAlum Members Posts: 745 ✭✭
    WKYTrooper wrote:


    Okay, some of the villain takes are a little extreme. I don't think he's a bad guy. I don't know him and don't want to judge anyone without meeting them personally that way. Its the way he handles himself that pisses me off more than anything. His demeanor is immature and not professional. The story above about the volunteer is a perfect example. It makes me cheer against him....villain type view.



    Also, my comment about him being overhyped was in reference to how the media was going bonkers in the past about him. Never did I mention him not being an amazing talent. His game is all around unbelievable with his main handicap probably being his attitude.




    Lol, get everybody fired up then walk it back.
Sign In or Register to comment.