Kirkland Signature (Costco) golf balls (MERGED) (NO BST POSTS)

[bwhitish]

Just got a new box today and noticed Made in Vietnam instead of Made in China.

[cardigan]

5 hours ago, bwhitish said:

Just got a new box today and noticed Made in Vietnam instead of Made in China.

Anything else different about the box or the side stamps on the balls?

 

Edit: I do see some other references online to V2 balls labeled as made in Vietnam with the country of origin label being the only apparent difference.  I guess they have balls made in more than one factory.  Titleist has some models made in the US and in Thailand so the practice isn't unheard of.

Edited July 20, 2022 by cardigan

[wantacigar]

From another thread mentioned that Feng Tay factory is in Vietnam and they make RZN, Spaulding, Mizuno and POSSIBLY Vice Pro Zero.  Possibly either a better manufacturer or just using two different suppliers.  Either way let us know if you notice any difference in spin, quality or the same  @bwhitish

 

Edit: If they have been using China and Vietnam suppliers simultaneously, then wonder if there are different characteristics between balls.  This could possibly account for different results among different golfers.  I now have to check my boxes when I get home.  LOL

Edited July 27, 2022 by wantacigar

[bekgolf]

Just checked my horde.  Only a few double dozen of made in China, all the rest are Vietnam.  New purchases always go to the bottom of the stack so I haven't bought a made in China for quite awhile.

 

How long till the made in China are collectors items?  Lol.

[NRJyzr]

Have a couple dozen of the KSig v3.2, but I haven't played them much.  I've always been a high spin player, would lose distance with them.

 

Age appears to be moving me out of that zone.  Recently played the 3.2 in a couple rounds, including some with a fair bit of wind.  Has played surprisingly well, even with the winds I've played in.  Distance has been good, a pleasant surprise.

 

May just keep running with it.

 

[gioreeko]

14 hours ago, NRJyzr said:

Have a couple dozen of the KSig v3.2, but I haven't played them much.  I've always been a high spin player, would lose distance with them.

 

Age appears to be moving me out of that zone.  Recently played the 3.2 in a couple rounds, including some with a fair bit of wind.  Has played surprisingly well, even with the winds I've played in.  Distance has been good, a pleasant surprise.

 

May just keep running with it.

 

the distance "loss" thing is so overblown with these. I still manage to hit drives over 300 with them, and the only thing that doesn't work for me is that they bite and spin back a bit too much for me on the greens. 

[Rory4Pres]

16 minutes ago, gioreeko said:

the distance "loss" thing is so overblown with these. I still manage to hit drives over 300 with them, and the only thing that doesn't work for me is that they bite and spin back a bit too much for me on the greens. 

I also experience a loss of distance with the newer ksigs.  Too spinny.  Don't really use them because of that.

[NRJyzr]

26 minutes ago, gioreeko said:

the distance "loss" thing is so overblown with these. I still manage to hit drives over 300 with them, and the only thing that doesn't work for me is that they bite and spin back a bit too much for me on the greens. 

 

When I would play these with persimmons, I found it interesting that I actually gained distance off the tee.  Hmmmm  🙂

 

 

Edited August 10, 2022 by NRJyzr

[betarhoalphadelta]

4 hours ago, gioreeko said:

the distance "loss" thing is so overblown with these. I still manage to hit drives over 300 with them, and the only thing that doesn't work for me is that they bite and spin back a bit too much for me on the greens. 

 

[Bad9]

21 hours ago, gioreeko said:

the distance "loss" thing is so overblown with these. I still manage to hit drives over 300 with them, and the only thing that doesn't work for me is that they bite and spin back a bit too much for me on the greens. 

If you're hitting it 300+ the distance loss off the tee might not be of concern. When you're hitting it 220-230 a loss of 10-15 yards is a big deal. That is what I lost vis-a vis the Duo Pro I usually play. I didn't notice the same type of loss on irons and the Kirkland is magical around greens. That is from playing it for 20 odd rounds last year.

[NRJyzr]

50 minutes ago, Bad9 said:

If you're hitting it 300+ the distance loss off the tee might not be of concern. When you're hitting it 220-230 a loss of 10-15 yards is a big deal. That is what I lost vis-a vis the Duo Pro I usually play. I didn't notice the same type of loss on irons and the Kirkland is magical around greens. That is from playing it for 20 odd rounds last year.

 

The only real problem with the KSig 3pc off the tee is spin.  That can be mitigated through equipment.  When I was first trying it, some of my drivers produced shorter shots than others; the shorter shots were always off the drivers that were somewhat higher spin.

 

I'm now using a 300 Mini, and that's no longer a problem.  I was even getting decent distance into a 15-20 mph headwind last weekend.

 

[Girevik]

2 hours ago, Bad9 said:

If you're hitting it 300+ the distance loss off the tee might not be of concern. When you're hitting it 220-230 a loss of 10-15 yards is a big deal. That is what I lost vis-a vis the Duo Pro I usually play. I didn't notice the same type of loss on irons and the Kirkland is magical around greens. That is from playing it for 20 odd rounds last year.

But most of the reports are that it's the high swing speed players who lose distance.  They probably aren't the ones hitting it 225.  That said, most of the "distance loss" came from the V1, and many of those who had that issue don't see it with the V2.  My son hit a drive over 290 (measured with GPS) yesterday with it in less than idea weather conditions (nothing humble, I'm flat out bragging on my son).

[Bad9]

35 minutes ago, Girevik said:

But most of the reports are that it's the high swing speed players who lose distance.  They probably aren't the ones hitting it 225.  That said, most of the "distance loss" came from the V1, and many of those who had that issue don't see it with the V2.  My son hit a drive over 290 (measured with GPS) yesterday with it in less than idea weather conditions (nothing humble, I'm flat out bragging on my son).

I can only refer to my own results but my observation that it is short off the tee for me is echoed many times in this thread.

[gioreeko]

2 hours ago, Girevik said:

But most of the reports are that it's the high swing speed players who lose distance.  They probably aren't the ones hitting it 225.  That said, most of the "distance loss" came from the V1, and many of those who had that issue don't see it with the V2.  My son hit a drive over 290 (measured with GPS) yesterday with it in less than idea weather conditions (nothing humble, I'm flat out bragging on my son).

I've had my son try it also, usually hits his ProV1 first, then tees up a Kirkland so we can compare. Maybe a few yards shorter some of the times, nothing of note.

[ronw04]

The difference between the longest ball I've ever gamed (Srixon XV) and the Kirkland is about 20 yards.  I suspect its because I'm a touch steep with my driver exacerbating the high spin nature of the ball.  That being said. . .

 

Since it hasn't rained in 2 months here in the northeast, distance in the air isn't as important as it will be in the fall.  Any ball hits the baked out fairways and runs all over the place.  On approach shots, I'm finding the additional spin helpful holding some of the very firm/dry greens we have up here.  Because of that, I find myself dipping into my kirkland supply more and more.  

[wantacigar]

The distance loss is overblown.  I get the same distance with Ksig as with any other ball.  I just played 4 rounds in FL. exclusively with the Ksig and hit my drives with a 220-235 carry with a 230 yd avg carry.  Roll out is course dependent.  The same I hit with ProV1, Maxfli Tour, TP5 or TM TR.  Every once in a while I would pure a drive and it would carry 240-245 maybe once a round.  

Edited August 22, 2022 by wantacigar

[Longdriver295]

40 minutes ago, wantacigar said:

The distance loss is overblown.  I get the same distance with Ksig as with any other ball.  I just played 4 rounds in FL. exclusively with the Ksig and hit my drives with a 220-235 carry with a 230 yd avg carry.  Roll out is course dependent.  The same I hit with ProV1, Maxfli Tour, TP5 or TM TR.  Every once in a while I would pure a drive and it would carry 240-245 maybe once a round.  

No one is gonna pick up more than 10yds with ANY ball, I don't care what they say. It's not the ball that makes it go further. If someone wants more Distance then they gonna have to increase SS and Ball Speed. If people think they're gonna pick up 15yds just by changing balls is delusional!

[betarhoalphadelta]

2 hours ago, Longdriver295 said:

No one is gonna pick up more than 10yds with ANY ball, I don't care what they say. It's not the ball that makes it go further. If someone wants more Distance then they gonna have to increase SS and Ball Speed. If people think they're gonna pick up 15yds just by changing balls is delusional!

 

Eh, to an extent I disagree. In the MGS test the difference in total distances just for the top ten balls were 6 yards (115 mph driver), 4.5 yards (100 mph driver), and 4 yards (85 mph driver). If you look at the difference (to remove outliers) between the 3rd from the top and the 3rd from the bottom, it's 19 yards (115 mph), 15 yards (100 mph), and 8 yards (85 mph). Heck if I look at mid-speed 8i carry distance, the difference between the 3rd and 3rd from last in the test is 6 yards carry. 

 

And that test was only dealing with urethane balls. A 2-piece surlyn distance ball that doesn't spin might give even larger gains. 

 

Obviously, of course, I'm looking at the two extremes of the spectrum here. My swing speed is middle-of-the-road around 100 mph driver, and I play the MTB-X, and theoretically could gain up to ~8 yards off the tee if I went to a low spin ball but I don't want to lose that spin around the greens. I could lose ~8 yards according to robot testing with the Kirkland, in exchange for extra spin that I'm not sure I need. Obviously I'd need to test these and go through a ball fitting myself if I wanted to figure out the numbers for *my* swing rather than a robot. I'm happy with the MTB-X, so I don't feel the need right now. And my own inconsistency is enough that I'd need hours and hours of Trackman time with these balls to weed out my own statistical noise from the equation. 

 

But if you're playing a ball that is wrong for your swing and delivery characteristics, you absolutely could gain 10 yards with a new ball. 

 

 

[NRJyzr]

2 hours ago, betarhoalphadelta said:

But if you're playing a ball that is wrong for your swing and delivery characteristics, you absolutely could gain 10 yards with a new ball. 

 

100% agree.  Lived it 17 years ago.

 

I was able to gain more than 10 yards, just with irons, by switching from a fairly high spin ball to one that was perfectly suited to me.  The mid-2000s version of switching to a TP5x, essentially, for a fairly high spin & high trajectory player.

 

I miss some of that speed.  Stupid calendar.  LOL

 

[jpdx]

7 hours ago, Longdriver295 said:

No one is gonna pick up more than 10yds with ANY ball, I don't care what they say. It's not the ball that makes it go further. If someone wants more Distance then they gonna have to increase SS and Ball Speed. If people think they're gonna pick up 15yds just by changing balls is delusional!

I would disagree as its not so simple. If i understand you correctly, you’re talking only about the ball velocity. You want more velocity (ball speed) i am of the opinion you’re correct, however; You’re forgetting all the other variables that exist in the real word, for one, the spin rates, and that is where i personally see an issue as one point that relates to the ksigs. You hit with a ball that spins more, the ball will create more lift via the aerodynamics, hence a higher apex right? You will likely get less distance as the trajectory gets higher and likely the descent angle steeper leading to less roll out. 
 

am i way off base here?

 

[monks66]

Beating a dead horse here , but NEED the 4 piece 2.0 ball back with improved cover...really liked that ball....besides the cover overall

[bhj83]

2 hours ago, monks66 said:

Beating a dead horse here , but NEED the 4 piece 2.0 ball back with improved cover...really liked that ball....besides the cover overall

Starting to feel like it may never happen 😞

[ASN21]

17 hours ago, betarhoalphadelta said:

 

Eh, to an extent I disagree. In the MGS test the difference in total distances just for the top ten balls were 6 yards (115 mph driver), 4.5 yards (100 mph driver), and 4 yards (85 mph driver). If you look at the difference (to remove outliers) between the 3rd from the top and the 3rd from the bottom, it's 19 yards (115 mph), 15 yards (100 mph), and 8 yards (85 mph). Heck if I look at mid-speed 8i carry distance, the difference between the 3rd and 3rd from last in the test is 6 yards carry. 

 

And that test was only dealing with urethane balls. A 2-piece surlyn distance ball that doesn't spin might give even larger gains. 

 

Obviously, of course, I'm looking at the two extremes of the spectrum here. My swing speed is middle-of-the-road around 100 mph driver, and I play the MTB-X, and theoretically could gain up to ~8 yards off the tee if I went to a low spin ball but I don't want to lose that spin around the greens. I could lose ~8 yards according to robot testing with the Kirkland, in exchange for extra spin that I'm not sure I need. Obviously I'd need to test these and go through a ball fitting myself if I wanted to figure out the numbers for *my* swing rather than a robot. I'm happy with the MTB-X, so I don't feel the need right now. And my own inconsistency is enough that I'd need hours and hours of Trackman time with these balls to weed out my own statistical noise from the equation. 

 

But if you're playing a ball that is wrong for your swing and delivery characteristics, you absolutely could gain 10 yards with a new ball. 

 

 

Hey man don't come in here with all those facts! Ksig >>>> all other golf balls ever 🤣

[monks66]

22 hours ago, bhj83 said:

Starting to feel like it may never happen 😞

i feel the same 😞

[golfn808]

☹️☹️☹️

[SollyinGA]

On 8/10/2022 at 12:22 PM, Rory4Pres said:

I also experience a loss of distance with the newer ksigs.  Too spinny.  Don't really use them because of that.

I’ve seen others say this. For me, as a low spin player, they’re as long as anything else. They are not my favorite ball, but the price makes them very hard to beat as a practice round ball. 

Edited August 29, 2022 by SollyinGA

[TallGuy90]

Bought some Ksigs in a pinch. I hit some of my longest drives in terms of carry with them, almost no roll out though. Still can’t seem to handle wedges 

[Stanks]

3 hours ago, TallGuy90 said:

Bought some Ksigs in a pinch. I hit some of my longest drives in terms of carry with them, almost no roll out though. Still can’t seem to handle wedges 

 Nothing wrong with that.

On 8/22/2022 at 11:11 AM, Longdriver295 said:

No one is gonna pick up more than 10yds with ANY ball, I don't care what they say. It's not the ball that makes it go further. If someone wants more Distance then they gonna have to increase SS and Ball Speed. If people think they're gonna pick up 15yds just by changing balls is delusional!

Disagreed.

On 8/23/2022 at 3:26 AM, monks66 said:

Beating a dead horse here , but NEED the 4 piece 2.0 ball back with improved cover...really liked that ball....besides the cover overall

Excactly

On 8/23/2022 at 5:40 AM, bhj83 said:

Starting to feel like it may never happen 😞

We are still post pandemic supply chain issues. Snell is in allocation. Prices on raw materials are still a little bit high. Not to mention all the crap going on in the world. It's gonna happen but, the timeline is fuzzier than it was a year or two ago.

[BIG STU]

On 8/11/2022 at 10:11 AM, NRJyzr said:

 

The only real problem with the KSig 3pc off the tee is spin.  That can be mitigated through equipment.  When I was first trying it, some of my drivers produced shorter shots than others; the shorter shots were always off the drivers that were somewhat higher spin.

 

I'm now using a 300 Mini, and that's no longer a problem.  I was even getting decent distance into a 15-20 mph headwind last weekend.

 

Someone has gotten on a Kirkland kick around my course. I have found quite a few lately around my course in my dew sweeper rounds. Funny thing I had a similar experience as you did on Persimmon with one. I got about 5 yards more carry with the Penna Slugger. This morning I was playing a test and tune session with the M-6 TM. Those Kirklands hit good off of it but I got more distance off my Standard Q Star Tour not a whole lot maybe a couple of yards. Now I did get quite a bit of spin off the Vokey wedges with Kirkland. On my test and tune stuff I have an old broken off flag stick I keep in the corner of the cart barn. I will stick it from where I hit from and go down range and shoot it with the range finder. One of the reasons I know my exact distances and have no illusions. 

[e-man]

Is there any way to tell the difference between the various versions of the Ksigs?