2020 US Open

[carrier street]

3 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

I saw the superintendent stated he wants a winning score of +8.. Seems a bit... aggressive. 

Yeah, that's a bit much.

[JD3]

Dustin doesn't remember if he played here before lol @ 4:25

 

 

[DFS PFD]

I think DJ's rocks for brains is actually an asset for him under pressure and with golf in general. Definitely doesn't have to worry about overthinking it once someone helps him tie his shoes, its just swing it time. 

Edited September 15, 2020 by DFS PFD

[ThinkingPlus]

18 minutes ago, DFS PFD said:

I think DJ's rocks for brains is actually an asset for him under pressure and with golf in general. Definitely doesn't have to worry about overthinking it once someone helps him tie his shoes, its just swing it time. 

IQ of a garden shrub.  That's why Bruce likes to hang with DJ some.  He then gets the opportunity to be the smart one.

[smashdn]

3 hours ago, JD3 said:

Tiger during interview named winged foot, oakmont, and carnoustie as only 3 courses that a major can be played on without much change to how the members play it. Ive played 2 of the 3 (WF and CAR) and pretty much agree. Not sure how anyone could go on a birdie binge with the normal setup. 

  

 

I'll never have this problem but walking onto a course knowing I have no chance to keep it under 100 doesn't appeal too much, no matter the history, prestige, the flowing robes, etc.  How/why does a member sign up for that?  I bet they have a nice pool though, it's got to be the pool right?

[Brock Savage]

7 hours ago, sonnygolf said:

Why are Tigers odds  @28/1?

 

I dont see him make the cut. And this is coming from a Tiger Woods fan. 

The general answer is that the odds are a reflection not only of the players' form, but of the betting interest.  Tiger is such a fan favorite that a disproportionate amount of money will be bet on him, so the casinos have to protect themselves in case he somehow manages to win.  They decrease his payout accordingly.

 

The more specific answer is that he's Tiger.  He won the Masters just last year against a stacked leader board, and the ZOZO against a very strong field after that.  He certainly isn't as consistent as he was in his prime, but if he has a good week, he can still beat anybody.

[manku]

1 hour ago, JD3 said:

Dustin doesn't remember if he played here before lol @ 4:25

 

 

Love dj inadvertently throwing shade at the wf greens we've been hearing about non stop.  

[8602081]

I'm going with Justin Rose..

 

He's due..

 

[dlygrisse]

I want a good old school US Open blood bath. The year of COVID deserves nothing less. Carnage I say. Phil wins at +10 with a chip in on 18. Ferguson will quit the Internet. ?

[bscinstnct]

On 9/14/2020 at 4:02 PM, tiderider said:

info normally found in a properly constructed thread, esp a major ... just sayin!:

TV

Thursday, September 17: 7:30 a.m.-2 p.m. ET (Golf Channel); 2-5 p.m. ET (NBC)
Friday, September 18: 9:30 a.m.-4 p.m. ET (Golf Channel); 4-7 p.m. ET (NBC)
Saturday, September 19: 11 a.m. -7:30 p.m. ET (NBC)
Sunday, September 20: 10 a.m.-12 p.m. ET (Golf Channel); 12-6 p.m. ET (NBC)

 

streaming

Thursday, September 17
First Round (TV coverage): 7:30 a.m.-2 p.m. ET (Golfchannel.com)
First Round (TV Coverage): 2-5 p.m. ET (NBCSports.com)
First Round (Online only): 5-7 p.m. ET (Peacock)
Featured Groups (Online only): 7:55 a.m.-6:30 p.m. ET (usopen.com)
Featured Holes (Online only): 8:10 a.m.-6:45 p.m. ET (usopen.com)

Friday, September 18
Second Round (Online only): 7:30-9:30 a.m. ET (Peacock)
Second Round (TV Coverage): 9:30 a.m.-4:00 p.m. ET (Golfchannel.com)
Second Round (Online only): 4-7 p.m. ET (NBCSports.com)
Featured Groups (Online only): 7:55 a.m.-6:30 p.m. ET (usopen.com)
Featured Holes (Online only): 8:10 a.m.-6:45 p.m. ET (usopen.com)

Saturday, September 19
Third Round (Online only): 9-11 a.m. ET (Peacock)
Third Round (Online only): 11 a.m.-7:30 p.m.ET (NBCSports.com)
Featured Groups (Online only): 8 a.m.-6:30 p.m. ET (usopen.com)
Featured Holes (Online only): 8:10 a.m.-6:45 p.m. ET (usopen.com)

Sunday, September 20
Final Round (Online only): 8-10 a.m. ET (Peacock)
Final Round (TV Coverage): 10 a.m.-12 p.m. ET (Golfchannel.com)
Final Round (Online only): 12-6 p.m.ET (NBCSports.com)
Featured Groups (Online only): 8 a.m.-5:30 p.m. ET (usopen.com)
Featured Holes (Online only): 8 a.m.-5 p.m. ET (usopen.com)

 

odds

Dustin Johnson 8-1
Jon Rahm 11-1
Rory McIlroy 12-1
Bryson DeChambeau 14-1
Justin Thomas 14-1
Xander Schauffele 18-1
Collin Morikawa 18-1
Patrick Cantlay 25-1
Hideki Matsuyama 28-1
Justin Rose 28-1
Tiger Woods 28-1
Webb Simpson 28-1
Jason Day 33-1
Daniel Berger 33-1
Tony Finau 33-1
Tommy Fleetwood 33-1
Adam Scott 35-1
Rickie Fowler 40-1
Scottie Scheffler 40-1
Patrick Reed 40-1
Tyrrell Hatton 50-1
Jordan Spieth 50-1
Viktor Hovland 50-1
Gary Woodland 50-1
Paul Casey 50-1
Harris English 60-1
Matthew Fitzpatrick 60-1
Sung-Jae Im 66-1
Marc Leishman 66-1
Matthew Wolff 66-1
Shane Lowry 80-1
Henrik Stenson 80-1
Abraham Ancer 80-1
Louis Oosthuizen 80-1
Cameron Champ 80-1
Francesco Molinari 80-1
Matt Kuchar 80-1
Phil Mickelson 80-1
Sergio Garcia 80-1
Cameron Smith 100-1
Joaquin Niemann 100-1
Billy Horschel 100-1
Si Woo Kim 100-1
Danny Willett 100-1
Brendon Todd 100-1
Martin Kaymer 125-1
Rafa Cabrera Bello 125-1
Ian Poulter 125-1
Bernd Wiesberger 125-1
Rasmus Hojgaard 125-1
Brandt Snedeker 125-1
Branden Grace 125-1
Adam Hadwin 125-1
Matt Wallace 125-1
Lee Westwood 125-1
Bubba Watson 125-1
Kevin Kisner 125-1

 

 

https://golf.com/news/winged-foot-club-champions-rooting-us-open/

 

https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/golf/usopen/2020/09/14/us-open-witnessing-massacre-winged-foot-shadow-hale-irwin/3462476001/

 

https://golf.com/travel/aw-tillinghast-legendary-course-architect-winged-foot/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nice, tide ; )

 

TW 28-1 to win?

 

I’d barely consider putting money on him at 28-1 to make the cut, ?

[whitefro]

On 9/14/2020 at 12:57 PM, jholz said:

I believe that the person who wins the 2020 U.S. Open at Wingedfoot will be a golfer. Although at 1.83mil:1 odds, I had to lay down $80 on Macho Man Randy Savage. 

 

 

[EMA1]

Was fun watching the players press conferences and hearing them explain truly how difficult this course is. I cannot wait to see the bloodbath.

[ChrisL52188]

10 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

I saw the superintendent stated he wants a winning score of +8.. Seems a bit... aggressive. 

It can happen. The greens will be ridiculous. 

[freowho]

13 hours ago, smashdn said:

  

 

I'll never have this problem but walking onto a course knowing I have no chance to keep it under 100 doesn't appeal too much, no matter the history, prestige, the flowing robes, etc.  How/why does a member sign up for that?  I bet they have a nice pool though, it's got to be the pool right?

I've been saying this for years. If you gave golfers the choice of a game at Winged Foot or the local suburban club 99% would choose Winged Foot. If after the game, they then get to choose a membership at Winged Foot or the local suburban club 99% would say not Winged Foot.

[Hankshank]

One thing that always kind of bugs me, now listening to the pre-tourn interview with Thomas - This about "embracing the course is hard". Really - what does it matter if the golf course is easy or difficult in a Golf Tournament? It's the same for everyone. Say holes 16-18 are renamed as par 5´s(the reasonable par for me at the moment), then all those three holes are easy??
What matters, I would suppose,  is if it's a course that sets up different for different kind of players. If long drives are rewarded and so on? A result on a hole is relevant only in relation to what other players get on the hole? You play against the other players? When Thomas goes on about yeah its hard grind blah blah is he only bullshitting to make the journalists happy? 

Edited September 16, 2020 by Hankshank

[bladehunter]

Harder course favors several including tiger and Phil IF they get mentally engaged to the challenge.     Going to be fun I think.    Think on it.  Do you see tiger or Phil shooting +10 for 2 days and missing the cut ? I don’t.  I legitimately think +6 to +8 will be the cut line. Can’t wait. 

[bladehunter]

26 minutes ago, Hankshank said:

One thing that always kind of bugs me, now listening to the pre-tourn interview with Thomas - This about "embracing the course is hard". Really - what does it matter if the golf course is easy or difficult in a Golf Tournament? It's the same for everyone. Say holes 16-18 are renamed as par 5´s(the reasonable par for me at the moment), then all those three holes are easy??
What matters, I would suppose,  is if it's a course that sets up different for different kind of players. If long drives are rewarded and so on? A result on a hole is relevant only in relation to what other players get on the hole? You play against the other players? When Thomas goes on about yeah its hard grind blah blah is he only bullshitting to make the journalists happy? 

Not BS. It’s a mindset.   Most people hate playing golf in the rain.  For whatever reason I love it.  I like “ grey “ days. I can see better.  I smile on tournament days whne it’s rainy. Why ?  My score isn’t going to change. But everybody else is pouting and beating themselves griping about the rain.    He’s saying that.  He’s loving the difficulty knowing he doesn’t have to go low.  All he has to do is survive.  Let everybody else kill themselves and then try to be out front on Sunday.   In other words he loves the difficulty.  Harder the better.   

[smashdn]

1 hour ago, freowho said:

I've been saying this for years. If you gave golfers the choice of a game at Winged Foot or the local suburban club 99% would choose Winged Foot. If after the game, they then get to choose a membership at Winged Foot or the local suburban club 99% would say not Winged Foot.

 

If "you don't have to do much to host a US Open," and +8 fires a four day +8, that can't be fun at any length of tees.

 

So, I run in the camp that "you don't have to do much to host a US Open" is not close to factual.  Sort of along the lines of the old saw, "The USGA actually had to slow down the greens when they came here," heard in the past in reference to different places.

[Nard_S]

JT has all the tools for this.  

[jmck]

 

[freeze16172002]

On 9/14/2020 at 8:25 AM, ATLgopher said:

 

Was relevant enough for you to bring it up.....so have fun

thank you for thinking of me so highly, that I can make anything relevant

[JD3]

maybe w/o fans they'll be able to get all the rounds in tomorrow with last threesome time starting at 2:11pm. that gives them about 5 hours to complete the round

[caniac6]

Just heard that Gary Woodland chipped a ball yesterday, and lost the ball. Glad I'm not playing there.

[ThinkingPlus]

10 minutes ago, caniac6 said:

Just heard that Gary Woodland chipped a ball yesterday, and lost the ball. Glad I'm not playing there.

"Welcome to the Jungle", GnR

[braincramp52]

I would love to see Tony Finau get his first major. 

[farmer]

I agree with the posters above.  I would not enjoy playing a course that beats me up every round.  Going out knowing I'm going to lose two balls and three putt six times is not my prescription for fun.  I believe that Richard has said that the members at Oakmont take kind of a perverse pleasure in having a course that is on the edge of playable all the time.

[Sean2]

2 minutes ago, farmer said:

I agree with the posters above.  I would not enjoy playing a course that beats me up every round.  Going out knowing I'm going to lose two balls and three putt six times is not my prescription for fun.  I believe that Richard has said that the members at Oakmont take kind of a perverse pleasure in having a course that is on the edge of playable all the time.

With the US Open it's a once a year thing. The players know going in that it's going to be a tough test. It's not like they play under these conditions every week. But yeah, playing under those conditions all the time would not be much fun. 

[JDCON]

18 hours ago, DFS PFD said:

I think DJ's rocks for brains is actually an asset for him under pressure and with golf in general. Definitely doesn't have to worry about overthinking it once someone helps him tie his shoes, its just swing it time. 

Sounds like my nephew. The kid is as stupid as toothpaste, but can sure swing a club.

[jol]

On 9/9/2020 at 9:32 PM, JD3 said:

Anyone played winged foot? Thoughts ?

 

Hard to go against DJ on any course right now way he's playing. Are tiger and Phil playing?

The place is a beast, especially if the rough is long.  You just can’t imagine how thick that stuff is!  My club was supposed to marshal one of the holes this year, but with Covid and no attendees there was no need. Their members could handle any needs.

 

[NoCalHack]

21 minutes ago, jol said:

The place is a beast, especially if the rough is long.  You just can’t imagine how thick that stuff is!  My club was supposed to marshal one of the holes this year, but with Covid and no attendees there was no need. Their members could handle any needs.

 

 

Fortunate to have played it once.  In the summer in dry conditions.

 

I didn't remember it being crazy from tee to green.  Of course, I was not playing the course from 7500 yards, and I wasn't playing the course with that kind of rough.  

 

What I do remember is the green complexes.  Insane and beautiful.  Just about every single green is distinctive and memorable.  If you miss it in the wrong place, you are absolutely dead.   There is plenty of undulation on the green complexes.  I was listening to a show describing them as relatively flat.  Certainly not how I remember them.