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Best sleeper fairway wood of all time.



  • tobybeartobybear  1501WRX Points: 95Members, Media Staffer Posts: 1,501
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    The BTY along with a bunch of the original Adams stuff was very good.

    I think the next best if not the other top option would be either the cleveland launcher Comp or Launcher Ti... both straight forward bombers
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  • JamesSeniorJamesSenior  16WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 16
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    v-steel. Cant put something better in your bag for less from ebay
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  • xjohnxxjohnx  2005WRX Points: 70Members Posts: 2,005
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    I know I'm just being a lame jerk but I figured I'd share what Merriam-Webster defines as a sleeper

    Sleeper: someone or something unpromising or unnoticed that suddenly attains prominence or value

    Calling the V-Steel a sleeper is like car guys calling a '69 Camaro a sleeper.
  • cbole22cbole22  133WRX Points: 48Members Posts: 133
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  • morgan1819morgan1819 Official Member  1004WRX Points: 125Members Posts: 1,004
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    I'm with the group that thinks the OP's question contradicts itself. If it's the greatest of all time, doubtful it could be a 'sleeper'.

    If something didn't catch on, it simply didn't perform as well as other options.

    - Nothing from Ping, TM, Titleist, Callaway, or even Cobra, is going to truly go under the radar if it performs well.

    - Cleveland, Adams, Nickent, Tour Edge, are examples of brands that could have a great product go relatively unrecognized by the masses.

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    Srixon 16.0 degrees. Accra TZ5 90
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    Byron Morgan DH89

  • dparkdpark  2551WRX Points: 155Members Posts: 2,551
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    So, after 30 years of looking, I am declaring the Adams BTY fairway woods the most perfect that I have ever tried (and I have tried a bunch.) Square to open face angles, tall enough to feel at ease of a tee, and easy to launch from the fairway. The smaller head also makes it much easier to hit from less than stellar lies.

    If anyone remembers the Cobra Speed Pro X-ST, the BTY is very similar in size, but orders of magnitude better in forgiveness and trajectory.

    If you like a shorter heel-toe face length, easy launch without an shallow face, and anything but closed face, then you owe it to yourself to pick up one to try. They can be had for cheap right now and I plan of getting a backup for each of the 3 I have.

    Konklifer wrote:

    I was actually going to say the BTY and the RPM LP. I had both for years.

    Those 2-3 generations of fairway woods from Adams are among the best ever. I still play the Adams RPM 5050 which has got to be 10+ years old by now. Fantastic performance from the fairway or the tee and they are usually set up neutral to open. I think someone else chimed in on the Adams Fast 10 too, which is also from that same timeframe.

    For the price (you can pick them up on ebay for less than $50, sometimes with nice shafts in them) its hard to beat the performance. When go to demo days and try the new stuff out I always have my 5050 to compare and there just isn't any significant performance difference.

    And while you don't care for deeper faced fairway woods, that is why I like the 5050, it was designed to be used 50% from the tee and 50% from the fairway. They had other models (4060, 3070) that got progressively shallower faces and were biased more for use in the fairway than the tee (3070: 30% tee, 70% fairway, get it?). They were all great depending on what you were looking for. Adams really had a lock on the fairway wood and hybrid market IMHO in the late 2000s.

    I should try to get some photos of the Trackman the next time I put up my 5050 against a TM M1 for Titleist 917 fairway wood. For me, there just isn't any significant difference between them. YMMW
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    1964 Acushnet O-SET M6S Bullseye Putter
    New stuff
    Cobra ZL 10.5 driver   Adams 5050 16 fairway wood   Adams A2P 20* hybrid
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  • Highgolfer07Highgolfer07  54WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 54
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    Personally, I have used the Bridgestone J33 and have never found a better club to replace it. Going on my 4th club head as I have cracked the face on my previous 3 heads!
  • ShottsShotts  239WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 239
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    ritz0019 wrote:

    mizuno mp-001

    Going thru this thread and totally agree with the above, MP-001's are fantastic. Also previously, a good shout out on the Ping Zing 2's as well. Had a Zing 2 3-wood and not sure if there was a hot spot or what, but it was an absolute fav. of mine.
  • mootrailmootrail  539WRX Points: 94Members Posts: 539
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    Most of the picks are not sleepers; they were hot items in their era.

    Sleeper: Callaway Big Bertha Alpha 816 with Aldila Rogue Silver shaft.

    Never really heard a peep about these when they were released. Maybe because Callaway has out Taylormade'd Taylormade with the number of models and releases.

    Regardless; phenomenal modern high MOI fairway wood with an excellent stock shaft.
  • Albatross71Albatross71  119WRX Points: 75Members Posts: 119
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    How about the ping i3, with that tiny head
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    Macgregor Mactec nvg2
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    Wishon 919 F/D
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    Taylor Made 200.
  • JifmoliJifmoli Vanuatu/Solomon Islands 34WRX Points: 42Members Posts: 34
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    With hybrids going nearly as far and usable for more varying and poor lies, woods for me are a thing of the past. Having said that, th Callaway BB Diablo is a great club of the deck (if not too dug in) and off the tee. Really like that one. Most woods I find hard off the deck, like my other Callaway 3w: hawkeye vft. For me impossible to get off the ground properly.
  • mejmomejmo  79WRX Points: 27Members Posts: 79
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    The Mizuno MP 650 ticks all the boxes for me in a 3 wood. Compact, not too shallow, easy to hit from tight lies, open face, and super hot face. Oh, and totally naked crown
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  • super20dansuper20dan  3364WRX Points: 10Members Posts: 3,364
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    original adams tight lies. still preforms up to par today.
    73 hogan apex
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  • sphna12dsphna12d  537WRX Points: 108Members Posts: 537
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    I loved the Mashie Gliderail FW from Cleveland. I loved the stock Miyasaki shaft. Very easy to elevate.
  • easylittle5woodeasylittle5wood  1278WRX Points: 176Members Posts: 1,278
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    endy wrote:

    Callaway squareway!!

    Most underrated FW ever. Couples played a tour only version for many years, heard it was 15% smaller.
  • BigHook25BigHook25  2295WRX Points: 120Members Posts: 2,295
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    mejmo wrote:



    The Mizuno MP 650 ticks all the boxes for me in a 3 wood. Compact, not too shallow, easy to hit from tight lies, open face, and super hot face. Oh, and totally naked crown

    Yea that was a great fairway wood that basically nobody played.
  • 4puttJohnny4puttJohnny  500WRX Points: 81Members Posts: 500
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    The original Cleveland launchers with the gold shafts.
  • jbandalojbandalo  124WRX Points: 49Members Posts: 124
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    Callaway Fusion fairway woods for me. So surprised they don't get much love. Simply amazing
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  • ToePokeToePoke Recovering Slicer  27WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 27
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  • MyShortGameSucksMyShortGameSucks His doesn't....  1387WRX Points: 132Members Posts: 1,387
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    Bece2117 wrote:

    DIablo Edge Tour

    I still have one with original Blueboard 83. May be the first 3 wood I really liked
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  • NuggetsNuggets I'm not the messiah!  1270WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 1,270
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    Tour edge exotics CB2, nice open face, titanium so super hot and mega long! X100 shaft, tipped an inch and cut to 42.75 means it doesn't balloon.....sounds nice too

    Got a VR Pro ltd I need to shaft with an X100 and test next to it but the face isn't as open so I'm hesitant
    Callaway FT9 TA TP 9.5* - BiMatrix X in neon pink
    Nike Vr Pro Ltd 9.5* - Aldila NV 95X
    TEE CB2 - DG X100........yeah thats right its steel.
    Irons - 2-3 MP37's - X100's
    Irons - 4-PW MP68's - X100's
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  • nolixulnolixul London UK 406WRX Points: 76Members Posts: 406
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    Orlimar Trimetals - were already mentioned. Still see quite a few of these around, sticking out like sore thumbs, in amongst fairly new bags.

    I still have an 11 degree that comes out for a couple of courses that I play with 600+ yd par 5s.
  • ZuzertZuzert  73WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 73
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    TM Jetspeed. I have the stock stiff shaft and this thing just bombs it for me with a higher than most trajectory
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  • iamitiamit  273WRX Points: 55Members Posts: 273
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    gvogel wrote:

    Payton1020 wrote:

    I have these in the bag right now. (This is not my picture)


    Second that^
  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT  7233WRX Points: 363Members Posts: 7,233
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    Jpx 850 with adjustments of 5 degrees and a real deal great shaft....just grabbed s 5wd that the lofts range from 16-20* and the shaft is a fuji tour spec 6.3 ..... light for most big hitters but perfect for the average guy....

    Complete SLEEPER!
  • Carvallo GolfCarvallo Golf Hall of shame  231WRX Points: 28Members Posts: 231
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    TM retro series metal woods. 13 deg tour spoon, 16 & 19 deg raylor. The club heads are perfect, stock shafts not so much. Still available for cheap on ebay.

    WITB: Nothing, foot condition keeping me sidelined from the course

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  • ThunderBuzzworthThunderBuzzworth Hulk... Smash!!  2619WRX Points: 202Members Posts: 2,619
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    nolixul wrote:

    Orlimar Trimetals - were already mentioned. Still see quite a few of these around, sticking out like sore thumbs, in amongst fairly new bags.

    I still have an 11 degree that comes out for a couple of courses that I play with 600+ yd par 5s.

    If you invest in a new driver you would only have iron into those par 5's image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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